68816419:

There are only five national hospitals in Kenya, namely: Moi Teaching and Referral Hospital, The National Spinal Injury and Referral Hospital, Kenyatta National Hospital, Mathare National Teaching and Referral Hospital, Kenyatta University Teaching and Referral Hospital and every states in Niger have at least 1 National Hospital .Kenya's doctor-to-patient ratio is one to 16,000, according to official data, far below a recommendation of the U.N. World Health Organization of one to 1,000. The government says doctors in far-flung hospitals lack specialized skills, forcing patients to pay to travel to the capital Nairobi or abroad for treatment , in Nigeria's physician-to-patient ratio is four doctors per 10,000 patients and patients often wait hours to be seen.

This is one of those lies....you need like 200,000 doctors to get that level..Nigerians are flying to south Africa of all places for medical care.kenya has 15k doctors,Nigeria 40k and South Africa 45k.

rvp2018:
This is one of those lies....you need like 200,000 doctors to get that level..Nigerians are flying to south Africa of all places for medical care.kenya has 15k doctors,Nigeria 40k and South Africa 45k.

Stop fooling your self, a grim statistic in Kenya, shows there are about 7,000 doctors for a population of 48 million as of Dec 8, 2020 while South Africa only has 27,432 medical doctors in all

Vlain:


How

Because not even Thomas Edison invented the lightbulb.........that's why, the lightbulb was invented nearly 40 years before Edison's lightbulb

Vlain:



Was it an Asian civilization then

It was an Arab civilisation

kevomtaani:


It's a shame that you have lived all your life believing western media and castigating your own..Nigeria didn't stand for nothing, Nigeria should be divided across religious lines anybody who doesn't beleive this is naive,
FYI a lot of the rebels who overthrew Gaddafi were from Algeria, Egypt and yemen..sponsored by the west. Gaddafi never fed black people to lions Gaddafi was using Black people in his military infact that's the sole reason black people are being killed in Libya right now because they were pro Gaddafi, killing of blacks in Libya has come after his death
Get your facts right before posting nonsense.

before i engage anyone in any matter I must have at least experienced or heard it from the source, If you never visited libya under Ghadafi please don't quote me on this matter again. His evil far outweighs his good, like far far. Ghadafis destroyed his first wife with acid. Many have forgotten the Palestinian leader who visited him and never left Libya till date. The Aircraft bombings. you know nothing about Libya other than Whites did this or that. Develope yourself and the whites will worship you. They go to Kenya, South Africa,TZ and others for tourism.
If any African Country can develop, they will worship you.
Or is it the west that gives you self centered leaders who steal everything they lay their hands on? Is that also western PR. Boy shut up and stop hanging Africas underdevelopment on the whites. I hate that mentality of telling ourselves we are like this because another man wants us to remain that way. One thing I love about Kenya is the way they built something out of less resources, though their focus is on one city. Africans just started doing what Asia started almost 30 years ago.

IGpro1:
before i engage anyone in any matter I must have at least experienced or heard it from the source, If you never visited libya under Ghadafi please don't quote me on this matter again. His evil far outweighs his good, like far far. Ghadafis destroyed his first wife with acid. Many have forgotten the Palestinian leader who visited him and never left Libya till date. The Aircraft bombings. you know nothing about Libya other than Whites did this or that. Develope yourself and the whites will worship you. They go to Kenya, South Africa,TZ and others for tourism.
If any African Country can develop, they will worship you.
Or is it the west that gives you self centered leaders who steal everything they lay their hands on? Is that also western PR. Boy shut up and stop hanging Africas underdevelopment on the whites. I hate that mentality of telling ourselves we are like this because another man wants us to remain that way. One thing I love about Kenya is the way they built something out of less resources, though their focus is on one city. Africans just started doing what Asia started almost 30 years ago.

Stop jumping around the topic we are talking about libya
the country that had no external debt pre 2011, universal Healthcare, had the highest HDI in Africa free education till university for all its citizens, had gold reserves of usd 9bn, had 6bn in cash reserves, had 100% electricity for all its citizens.. but what happened after 2011 when the allies or the whites destroyed the country? please tell me

I think you're quoting very old statistics.
Kenya has 15K - South Africa 45k
Nigeria has 72k - with half of them out of the country - only about 42k are in Nigeria.

Go to page 37 of this document
https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/s3.sourceafrica.net/documents/119905/KNBS-Economic-Survey-2020.pdf
Kenya is graduating about 600 doctors annually.

68816419:

Stop fooling your self, a grim statistic in Kenya, shows there are about 7,000 doctors for a population of 48 million as of Dec 8, 2020 while South Africa only has 27,432 medical doctors in all

IGpro1:
It's so annoying to see some defending and celebrating dictators. muamar Ghadafi was evil and crazy. a man that chose virgin women as his body guard,whose image the citizens bowed down to in public places. Of course those calling him an African hero, have never travelled to the country. A friend of encountered horror in their refugee camps under Ghadafi, were they'd feed blacks to lions and crocs. They forget it was his people who rose against him and eventually killed him. They forgot how he called them rats. He wanted an Islamic African country were he would be the president, only Nigeria stood against that ambitious plan, as a result wanted the country to split so he could have control. ...the west has helped Africans destroy themselves, because we don't have intellectual and patriotic leaders.
There's nothing like Pan African unity.

Same people think Christianity is the problem of Africa, what a hopeless thought.

Those refugee camps stories are false

He helped develop Libya into Africa’s only 2nd world middle income country. The people who rose up against him were paid by America because he wanted to introduce a common currency in Africa any single person who tried to industrialize Africa or make it independent from the west is automatically met with stigma and they always try and find a reason or a way for why he should be assassinated he was a good leader and his good outweighed bad, he developed Libya there was free healthcare and free education every single married couple got 20 000 dollars to buy their first apartment, he gave every pregnant woman 5000 dollars to take care of the child. There was water to every single Libyan household, he said he wouldn’t build his father a house until all Libyans had a house and his father died without him building him a house, and he saved over 1 trillion dollars in Libya sovereign fund which he was going to use to introduce the gold dinar to the rest of Africa and freenus from the dollar you have a very western outlook on the world and when pan africanists take over Africa’s you’ll see how quickly the education sector will change, nobody will learn about Christianity in school or about Islam in school, we will learn about our culture and history predominantly then we can focus on foreign history and small aspects of foreign culture Christianity is something that happens outside of school period

vankelvin:


Actually I did not single out Kenya. You can refer from my first writ.

I only queried why other Africans especially some of our East, Central and South Africans always get annoyed whenever CAF selects a North or West African country to host AFCON.

The countries in East Africa rarely qualify for those events anyway

68816419:

There are only five national hospitals in Kenya, namely: Moi Teaching and Referral Hospital, The National Spinal Injury and Referral Hospital, Kenyatta National Hospital, Mathare National Teaching and Referral Hospital, Kenyatta University Teaching and Referral Hospital and every states in Niger have at least 1 National Hospital .Kenya's doctor-to-patient ratio is one to 16,000, according to official data, far below a recommendation of the U.N. World Health Organization of one to 1,000. The government says doctors in far-flung hospitals lack specialized skills, forcing patients to pay to travel to the capital Nairobi or abroad for treatment , in Nigeria's physician-to-patient ratio is four doctors per 10,000 patients and patients often wait hours to be seen.

The Same un says Kenya's health care system is better than Nigeria's

jl115:
It was an Arab civilisation

No 8t wasn’t, 8 can give you scholarly evidence that it wasn’t but let’s just start with a picture or two

Abohboy:


No 8t wasn’t, 8 can give you scholarly evidence that it wasn’t but let’s just start with a picture or two

It certainly wasn't black like you claimed

Abohboy:


Those refugee camps stories are false

He helped develop Libya into Africa’s only 2nd world middle income country. The people who rose up against him were paid by America because he wanted to introduce a common currency in Africa any single person who tried to industrialize Africa or make it independent from the west is automatically met with stigma and they always try and find a reason or a way for why he should be assassinated he was a good leader and his good outweighed bad, he developed Libya there was free healthcare and free education every single married couple got 20 000 dollars to buy their first apartment, he gave every pregnant woman 5000 dollars to take care of the child. There was water to every single Libyan household, he said he wouldn’t build his father a house until all Libyans had a house and his father died without him building him a house, and he saved over 1 trillion dollars in Libya sovereign fund which he was going to use to introduce the gold dinar to the rest of Africa and freenus from the dollar you have a very western outlook on the world and when pan africanists take over Africa’s you’ll see how quickly the education sector will change, nobody will learn about Christianity in school or about Islam in school, we will learn about our culture and history predominantly then we can focus on foreign history and small aspects of foreign culture Christianity is something that happens outside of school period

Fvck with your reT@rded conspiracy theories You sound just like Kikuyu1!!

jl115:
Fvck with your reT@rded conspiracy theories You sound just like Kikuyu1!!

What conspiracy theory he said they fed black people to lions and crocodiles if anything that’s more of a conspiracy oloshi oloriburuku

No doubt that Nairobi will overtake Joburg before 2030 - Just watch this video. Nairobi is already 2nd in skyscrappers and will become Africa premier city soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4c4pCq-mTI

rvp20182:
I think you're quoting very old statistics.
Kenya has 15K - South Africa 45k
Nigeria has 72k - with half of them out of the country - only about 42k are in Nigeria.

Go to page 37 of this document
https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/s3.sourceafrica.net/documents/119905/KNBS-Economic-Survey-2020.pdf
Kenya is graduating about 600 doctors annually.

WTF Nigga , there is nothing in there, why don't u screen shots it for us to see?, According to Kenya Medical Board, there are about 7000 medical doctors in the whole of Kenya.
Facts are stubborn

kevomtaani:


Stop jumping around the topic we are talking about libya
the country that had no external debt pre 2011, universal Healthcare, had the highest HDI in Africa free education till university for all its citizens, had gold reserves of usd 9bn, had 6bn in cash reserves, had 100% electricity for all its citizens.. but what happened after 2011 when the allies or the whites destroyed the country? please tell me

6million people with oil reserve bigger than Nigeria, I loved Libya under Ghadafi, Afriqeeya Air was world class, their cities were lovely. But they lived in fear, no citizen would dare criticise Him. To better understand Ghadafi, you just need to visit Agadez in Niger, you'd understand his good deeds were nothing close to his wickedness. The Arab league saw him as a terrorist. Fellow moslems called him a religious extremist. If the people of Cameroon and Chad decides to remove, Paul biya and idris., You'd still call them good men.Ghadafi meant well for his people and maybe Africa but he wasn't the best man for the job, imagine if Good luck Jonathan, Nana akofo ado(sorry for the spelling ) or Uhuru Kenyatta were to canvas for a United Africa, the west cannot stop them the way they stopped they Stopped Ghadafi. Try M7 or Paul kagame, the west will easily influence the citizens against. Ghadafi was evil personified. He destroyed lives.

kevomtaani:


Understand the context, Gaddafi was helping Uganda because iddi amin was anti Israel, this was a war bigger than your Tanzanian village..Iddi amin wanted to attack western nations by threatening their interests in both kenya & Tanzania he started with Tanzania because he thought they were easy pickings, he was wrong kenya closed the border and Uganda couldn't get military, medical and food from Mombasa port. he lost the war

Bullshit.
Nyerere too was anti Israel man. He closed Israel embassy in Tz and supported the Palestinians.Nyerere was against the western nations that's why he waged a war against them by hosting many liberation movements in TZ,he also fought against RENAMO rebels who were supported by the west and south African apertheid government.
You have been a fool to think that your Gadafi was a hero. He was stupid. A pan African man couldn't think of fighting TZ which at the time was hosting and supporting many people who were against the colonizers ( the west).
What you didn't know and am sure your mind can't understand is,Gadafi was a staunch believer of Islam. His main aim was to make Africa as a whole an Islamic state.He started doing that by building mosques in many places around Africa.He didn't end there,he dished out money in support of terrorism.And that wasn't all,Gadafi paid people especially men in many parts of Africa who were marrying christian girls so that they can become Muslims. In TZ,he paid more for a Muslim guy who marries a christian girl raised by a pastor or clergymen.

Abohboy:


What conspiracy theory he said they fed black people to lions and crocodiles if anything that’s more of a conspiracy oloshi oloriburuku

Yeah that's probably a conspiracy i agree................

IGpro1:
6million people with oil reserve bigger than Nigeria, I loved Libya under Ghadafi, Afriqeeya Air was world class, their cities were lovely. But they lived in fear, no citizen would dare criticise Him. To better understand Ghadafi, you just need to visit Agadez in Niger, you'd understand his good deeds were nothing close to his wickedness. The Arab league saw him as a terrorist. Fellow moslems called him a religious extremist. If the people of Cameroon and Chad decides to remove, Paul biya and idris., You'd still call them good men.Ghadafi meant well for his people and maybe Africa but he wasn't the best man for the job, imagine if Good luck Jonathan, Nana akofo ado(sorry for the spelling ) or Uhuru Kenyatta were to canvas for a United Africa, the west cannot stop them the way they stopped they Stopped Ghadafi. Try M7 or Paul kagame, the west will easily influence the citizens against. Ghadafi was evil personified. He destroyed lives.

No we wouldn’t deby and biya are fools and enemies of Africa and it’s people

Kazikazi:
Bullshit.
Nyerere too was anti Israel man. He closed Israel embassy in Tz and supported the Palestinians.Nyerere was against the western nations that's why he waged a war against them by hosting many liberation movements in TZ,he also fought against RENAMO rebels who were supported by the west and south African apertheid government.
You have been a fool to think that your Gadafi was a hero. He was stupid. A pan African man couldn't think of fighting TZ which at the time was hosting and supporting many people who were against the colonizers ( the west).
What you didn't know and am sure your mind can't understand is,Gadafi was a staunch believer of Islam. His main aim was to make Africa as a whole an Islamic state.He started doing that by building mosques in many places around Africa.He didn't end there,he dished out money in support of terrorism.And that wasn't all,Gadafi paid people especially men in many parts of Africa who were marrying christian girls so that they can become Muslims. In TZ,he paid more for a Muslim guy who marries a christian girl raised by a pastor or clergymen.

No doubt nyerere was a pan African and he followed the soviet bloc, he indeed closed the Israeli embassy in Tanzania, but put aside village gossip, Gaddafi was an African hero who took on the west and showed Africans how to invest in themselves..iddi amin invading Tanzania was his way of showing the middle finger to the west like i said he was wrong and he did indeed loose, Kenya closed its border and the Ugandan economy collapsed. about islamizing Africa village politics that.

Kazikazi:
Bullshit.
Nyerere too was anti Israel man. He closed Israel embassy in Tz and supported the Palestinians.Nyerere was against the western nations that's why he waged a war against them by hosting many liberation movements in TZ,he also fought against RENAMO rebels who were supported by the west and south African apertheid government.
You have been a fool to think that your Gadafi was a hero. He was stupid. A pan African man couldn't think of fighting TZ which at the time was hosting and supporting many people who were against the colonizers ( the west).
What you didn't know and am sure your mind can't understand is,Gadafi was a staunch believer of Islam. His main aim was to make Africa as a whole an Islamic state.He started doing that by building mosques in many places around Africa.He didn't end there,he dished out money in support of terrorism.And that wasn't all,Gadafi paid people especially men in many parts of Africa who were marrying christian girls so that they can become Muslims. In TZ,he paid more for a Muslim guy who marries a christian girl raised by a pastor or clergymen.

you're arguing with kids who know nothing about Ghadafis motive for a united Africa, he sponsored many terrorist groups like Iran is doing today. He wanted a united Islamic Africa, with his face on the currency. Lol we have people who want to hang all their problems on white men.

Abohboy:


No we wouldn’t deby and biya are fools and enemies of Africa and it’s people

happy for you then . When I tell you Ghadafi was evil, I'm talking from experience, the west did blow it out of proportion but, bro he did evil. I wasn't joking when I said he fed blacks or non Libyan refugees to lions and crocs, though I had no personal experience of that, the guys shared their experience with tears. Just leave Ghadafi, he had the money but was an insane man.

Maybe you need to watch some Arab documentaries on Ghadafi you will curse..

But he was a visionary leader. Libyans lived better than so called Americans or Europeans, all for their freedom.

IGpro1:
happy for you then . When I tell you Ghadafi was evil, I'm talking from experience, the west did blow it out of proportion but, bro he did evil. I wasn't joking when I said he fed blacks or non Libyan refugees to lions and crocs, though I had no personal experience of that, the guys shared their experience with tears. Just leave Ghadafi, he had the money but was an insane man.

Maybe you need to watch some Arab documentaries on Ghadafi you will curse..

But he was a visionary leader. Libyans lived better than so called Americans or Europeans, all for their freedom.

Why should I trust the Arabs they didn’t like gaddafi because he didn’t bend to the will of the Muslim brotherhood they created propaganda against him for fighting for a United Africa, he never fed blacks and non Libyans to lions and crocodiles there were many Nigerians who visited Libya in the 90s and none of them died including my father and grandparents but they’re all still here today and they all know libya was better and they know the motive behind his assassination. You clearly don’t know anything about pan Africanism, imperialism or NEO colonialism so I see no point in debating you the west is an impediment to Africa’s development whether you want to admit it or not

IGpro1:
happy for you then . When I tell you Ghadafi was evil, I'm talking from experience, the west did blow it out of proportion but, bro he did evil. I wasn't joking when I said he fed blacks or non Libyan refugees to lions and crocs, though I had no personal experience of that, the guys shared their experience with tears. Just leave Ghadafi, he had the money but was an insane man.

Maybe you need to watch some Arab documentaries on Ghadafi you will curse..

But he was a visionary leader. Libyans lived better than so called Americans or Europeans, all for their freedom .

Yes the bolded explains alot...Ghaddafi was wicked trust me when I say that..guy sponsored stuff on other African countries even here in Kenya..Guy was a dictator..fact
But on the other hand, Libyans were really enjoying life..like you said they lived better than most in Africa..

So which way to go..follow a dictator and enjoy better quality life or have all the freedom and die fighting endless wars or basically live in poverty..do we go the kagame way or just fight for our freedom an just remain poor like before..Its a question we need to look at.Few countries and most are inthe west have managed to strick that balance ...

popizaino:



Yes, that only thing of vast greenery dotted with other ornamental plants separating each of the buildings and the general layout of the whole neighbourhood already proves my point ....it might not be spectacular but I see no difference in the area with were messi,serious Ramos lives in Barcelona/Madrid respectively.

Kenyans attention to details needs to be study down here. ...... Take a look at this resort for example and tell me if a similar project of this nature can come this good even if spend more?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjoi4g5lWiY

have noted that most folks who have travelled outside their country usually are more objective than the folks who refused to get outta of the village

Vlain:


Explain further. I don't get what U mean.

Generally looking at the world you start seeing a pattern...Folks who are extremely rich and then the ordinary people...Even in the so-called developed countries like US there is poverty ...Not everyone is benefitting from the plunder of African resources...just visit san Fransico an see the homelessness there, something unheard in most African countries..

So not everyone is enjoying the spoils of the war but just a few on the top..An they are becoming extremely rich..gaining billions in a matter of days while common folks are just trying to not die of poverty

@Kazikazi...dude i can see you crawling down there..
Anyway kaaz , I was really rooting for magufuli to become the next Ghadafi..be a dictator but pull your people from poverty an stuff..but now am having some doubts to say..

mtisTheQubit:

Generally looking at the world you start seeing a pattern...Folks who are extremely rich and then the ordinary people...Even in the so-called developed countries like US there is poverty ...Not everyone is benefitting from the plunder of African resources...just visit san Fransico an see the homelessness there, something unheard in most African countries..

So not everyone is enjoying the spoils of the war but just a few on the top..An they are becoming extremely rich..gaining billions in a matter of days while common folks are just trying to not die of poverty

They are only extremely rich because of the capitalist system that they developed, capitalism depends on a specific crop of people to stay in poverty. And in this case they need Africans and some unfortunate Americans to stay in poverty in order for the system to work. Africa would work better as a socialist continent than a capitalist one.

kevomtaani:


No doubt nyerere was a pan African and he followed the soviet bloc, he indeed closed the Israeli embassy in Tanzania, but put aside village gossip, Gaddafi was an African hero who took on the west and showed Africans how to invest in themselves..iddi amin invading Tanzania was his way of showing the middle finger to the west like i said he was wrong and he did indeed loose, Kenya closed its border and the Ugandan economy collapsed. about islamizing Africa village politics that.

Tanzania was against the west as I said,and nyerere supported Palestinians.
There is no point of saying Gadafi supported IDD Amin's invasion of Tz for showing a middle finger to the west. That's stupidity. The same Tanzania he was fighting against was against the west.

I repeat,Gaddafi aimed at making the whole Africa an Islamic state. When IDD amin invaded TZ,Gadafi supported that because he saw an opportunity for Idd amin,who was a muslim,to force Tanzanians into Islamic religion.The same way many terrorists are trying to do in different parts of Africa.

Your shithole Gadafi was as big lier.He pretended to hate the west,but at the same time he stacked millions and millions of looted cash into american banks! Bullshit

vankelvin:


Actually I did not single out Kenya. You can refer from my first writ.

I only queried why other Africans especially some of our East, Central and South Africans always get annoyed whenever CAF selects a North or West African country to host AFCON.

Absolutely not true!

Abohboy:


Those refugee camps stories are false

He helped develop Libya into Africa’s only 2nd world middle income country. The people who rose up against him were paid by America because he wanted to introduce a common currency in Africa any single person who tried to industrialize Africa or make it independent from the west is automatically met with stigma and they always try and find a reason or a way for why he should be assassinated he was a good leader and his good outweighed bad, [b]he developed Libya there was free healthcare and free education every single married couple got 20 000 dollars to buy their first apartment, he gave every pregnant woman 5000 dollars to take care of the child. There was water to every single Libyan household, he said he wouldn’t build his father a house until all Libyans had a house and his father died without him building him a house, and he saved over 1 trillion dollars in Libya sovereign fund which he was going to use to introduce the gold dinar to the rest of Africa and freenus from the dollar [/b]you have a very western outlook on the world and when pan africanists take over Africa’s you’ll see how quickly the education sector will change, nobody will learn about Christianity in school or about Islam in school, we will learn about our culture and history predominantly then we can focus on foreign history and small aspects of foreign culture Christianity is something that happens outside of school period

All true! The pal of a pal working with the AU visited before the invasion around '08 or '09 and confirmed all this. He also said any Libyan could receive an unlimited scholarship abroad for any subject. Same thing with health-free including any foreign surgical procedures.
Gaddafi also developed the largest irrigation system in the world, the Great man made river . It took ancient water from deep Sahara aquifers to the ENTIRE nation- no loans!
I'VE seen it written one of the rebel leaders has a Rothschild wife! His FIRST act was a multi billion USD loan for reconstruction,ofc!
Tbh, Africa SHOULDN'T have stood by and let Globo Homo wreck this place. We sat on the THE sidelines wringing our hands JUST like we did with Zim.