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The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by ooduapathfinder: 5:34am On Sep 29, 2016
Recent events arising from the Ondo Governorship primaries have thrown into the fore, once again, the fundamental question of political alignments within Yorubaland and its implications not only for the Yoruba Nation and People but also for Nigeria itself.
Accordingly, one of the Yoruba groups, “Oodua Nationalist Coalition” (ONAC) advocates that Yoruba people work for a new political party that derives her strength from the values and civilization of the Yoruba People as the APC has been hijacked by what it called the Fulani oligarchy. It also states that this is in line with an attempt at weakening the SW political leadership through the use of surrogates and berated the “Asiwaju Group”( or as we will put it, Asiwaju Tendency) as being innocently naïve, too trusting and lacking in a deep sense of history.
Thus for ONAC, the only way out was for the Yoruba to have a political party of their own that will promote and defend the interest of the Yoruba people. ONAC said the "Tinubu Group" was desperate for “change” without being patient to understand the content and form of the change.”

Assuming, but not conceding, for this purpose that all of ONAC’s claims about the Asiwaju Tendency are correct, it will be valid only if the Fulani, by virtue of their own wiles and cunning are able to pull through their domination agenda all on their own, especially by virtue of their having executive power under their wings. We know this not to be so.
History also shows us that there are always collaborators within Yorubaland, ready, willing and able to abide by the north’s(Fulani) expectations albeit hidden under their own ambitions.

The quoted reasoning is lackadaisical in its approach to the question of “surrogates”. By making hay of northern penchant for using surrogates( who are really collaborators) the question as to the responsibility of the Yoruba Nation itself is left hanging. For this has always been our historical experience. Either ONAC is saying the Yoruba Nation is composed of hopeless and hapless people where surrogates abound or it is saying that these surrogates do not know what they are doing, which will be wrong; for they anchor their activities on their own political expectations. The answer must therefore lie somewhere else.
This is thus not about any Fulani or northern ambitions but any existing environment for Yoruba “surrogacy” in pursuit of any Fulani or northern aims and aspirations as well as the ambitions of the surrogates. That there is a historical trajectory shows that the problem is not with any political impatience or shortsightedness by anyone but the existence of a political environment without which the north is powerless.
The real question then is how these collaborators emerge within this environment. Egbe Omo Oduduwa posits that reducing our response to Nigeria’s problematic, itself a function of the Ethno-National/Regional contradiction, to pure electoralism aimed at securing dominance of this environment allow the emergence of all sorts of Yoruba collaborators against the Yoruba People and utilizing all sorts of perfidy where the center becomes the arbiter.
In contrast, the Yoruba resistance in 1965 showed that the Yoruba people had something to fight for; their autonomy, at the time. That was why no one really bothered about the then massively rigged 1964 Federal elections by the north and their collaborators but quite the opposite was the case once such a rigging by the collaborators was carried out in the 1965 Regional elections.
The question then, and now, is thus who the arbiter is or who the Yoruba people would want as the arbiter: The Yoruba Nation and People or the Nigerian center which brings to the fore the question of True Federalism.
ONAC fell short of addressing this issue by blaming Asiwaju Tinubu for being “naïve and lacking a deep sense of history”. Nigeria’s political firmament is built around Ethno-National or Regional power plays and by definition, electoral alliances will have to be operational for any meaningful electoral influences.

In 2015, the only credible and viable option was/is the APC. Prior to 2015, we also have certain Yoruba who acted as surrogates to Goodluck Jonathan who never hid his anti-Yoruba positions, up to the point of saying we are minorities in our own land. Throughout his rule, there were Yoruba surrogates who clamored for and obtained appointments and encouraged him to try to impose himself electorally on Yorubaland. Dasukigate revelations showed the extent to which these surrogates went.

Meanwhile, calling on us to work for a new party will only achieve the northern Fulani aims ONAC claims to oppose as such a new party will also have to form alliances, including the north, especially when, in our attempts to create a “ southern front” we always fail to define this “south”, whether it is geographical or geo-political, for the Yoruba can be said to occupy the south, geographically, while the Yoruba in Kwara and Kogi are already classified as the “north” thus making nonsense of a “southern” alliance.
Moreover, working for a new political party, aside from all the legal intricacies it involves, will create a distraction and diversion from the way of our stated goals, to wit: Autonomy or True Federalism. Furthermore, those forces, that is the north and their collaborators, will utilize their perfidy to even ensure that such a party is denied its legitimacy.
Therefore, since it is being said that the Buhari administration is pursuing northern hegemony though absolute control of the APC machinery, it can only follow that the subordination of the SWAPC to the national organs will be a priority and this can only be achieved through neutralizing the Asiwaju Tendency in the SW APC.
Since the SW APC is yet to be totally compromised, it is our belief that its mechanism should be used to begin a process towards True Federalism by its embarking on a Yoruba Constitutional procedure to produce the Yoruba Regional Constitution to be ratified in a Yoruba-Region Referendum as the Yoruba answer to the APC Manifesto on True Federalism and which, at this point of our history, is the only way out. Consequent interaction and political realities will determine the necessity or otherwise of a new party, which, if necessary, will be anchored on the Yoruba Regional Constitution and nothing else.

Shenge Rahman Akanbi, Femi Odedeyi
For and on behalf of Egbe Omo Oduduwa
e-mail: egbeomooduduwa1945@gmail.com

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by Kakamorufu(m): 6:07am On Sep 29, 2016
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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by rlauncher(m): 1:24pm On Sep 29, 2016
ooduapathfinder:


Recent events arising from the Ondo Governorship primaries have thrown into the fore, once again, the fundamental question of political alignments within Yorubaland and its implications not only for the Yoruba Nation and People but also for Nigeria itself.
Accordingly, one of the Yoruba groups, “Oodua Nationalist Coalition” (ONAC) advocates that Yoruba people work for a new political party that derives her strength from the values and civilization of the Yoruba People as the APC has been hijacked by what it called the Fulani oligarchy. It also states that this is in line with an attempt at weakening the SW political leadership through the use of surrogates and berated the “Asiwaju Group”( or as we will put it, Asiwaju Tendency) as being innocently naïve, too trusting and lacking in a deep sense of history.
Thus for ONAC, the only way out was for the Yoruba to have a political party of their own that will promote and defend the interest of the Yoruba people. ONAC said the "Tinubu Group" was desperate for “change” without being patient to understand the content and form of the change.”

Assuming, but not conceding, for this purpose that all of ONAC’s claims about the Asiwaju Tendency are correct, it will be valid only if the Fulani, by virtue of their own wiles and cunning are able to pull through their domination agenda all on their own, especially by virtue of their having executive power under their wings. We know this not to be so.
History also shows us that there are always collaborators within Yorubaland, ready, willing and able to abide by the north’s(Fulani) expectations albeit hidden under their own ambitions.

The quoted reasoning is lackadaisical in its approach to the question of “surrogates”. By making hay of northern penchant for using surrogates( who are really collaborators) the question as to the responsibility of the Yoruba Nation itself is left hanging. For this has always been our historical experience. Either ONAC is saying the Yoruba Nation is composed of hopeless and hapless people where surrogates abound or it is saying that these surrogates do not know what they are doing, which will be wrong; for they anchor their activities on their own political expectations. The answer must therefore lie somewhere else.
This is thus not about any Fulani or northern ambitions but any existing environment for Yoruba “surrogacy” in pursuit of any Fulani or northern aims and aspirations as well as the ambitions of the surrogates. That there is a historical trajectory shows that the problem is not with any political impatience or shortsightedness by anyone but the existence of a political environment without which the north is powerless.
The real question then is how these collaborators emerge within this environment. Egbe Omo Oduduwa posits that reducing our response to Nigeria’s problematic, itself a function of the Ethno-National/Regional contradiction, to pure electoralism aimed at securing dominance of this environment allow the emergence of all sorts of Yoruba collaborators against the Yoruba People and utilizing all sorts of perfidy where the center becomes the arbiter.
In contrast, the Yoruba resistance in 1965 showed that the Yoruba people had something to fight for; their autonomy, at the time. That was why no one really bothered about the then massively rigged 1964 Federal elections by the north and their collaborators but quite the opposite was the case once such a rigging by the collaborators was carried out in the 1965 Regional elections.
The question then, and now, is thus who the arbiter is or who the Yoruba people would want as the arbiter: The Yoruba Nation and People or the Nigerian center which brings to the fore the question of True Federalism.
ONAC fell short of addressing this issue by blaming Asiwaju Tinubu for being “naïve and lacking a deep sense of history”. Nigeria’s political firmament is built around Ethno-National or Regional power plays and by definition, electoral alliances will have to be operational for any meaningful electoral influences.

In 2015, the only credible and viable option was/is the APC. Prior to 2015, we also have certain Yoruba who acted as surrogates to Goodluck Jonathan who never hid his anti-Yoruba positions, up to the point of saying we are minorities in our own land. Throughout his rule, there were Yoruba surrogates who clamored for and obtained appointments and encouraged him to try to impose himself electorally on Yorubaland. Dasukigate revelations showed the extent to which these surrogates went.

Meanwhile, calling on us to work for a new party will only achieve the northern Fulani aims ONAC claims to oppose as such a new party will also have to form alliances, including the north, especially when, in our attempts to create a “ southern front” we always fail to define this “south”, whether it is geographical or geo-political, for the Yoruba can be said to occupy the south, geographically, while the Yoruba in Kwara and Kogi are already classified as the “north” thus making nonsense of a “southern” alliance.
Moreover, working for a new political party, aside from all the legal intricacies it involves, will create a distraction and diversion from the way of our stated goals, to wit: Autonomy or True Federalism. Furthermore, those forces, that is the north and their collaborators, will utilize their perfidy to even ensure that such a party is denied its legitimacy.
Therefore, since it is being said that the Buhari administration is pursuing northern hegemony though absolute control of the APC machinery, it can only follow that the subordination of the SWAPC to the national organs will be a priority and this can only be achieved through neutralizing the Asiwaju Tendency in the SW APC.
Since the SW APC is yet to be totally compromised, it is our belief that its mechanism should be used to begin a process towards True Federalism by its embarking on a Yoruba Constitutional procedure to produce the Yoruba Regional Constitution to be ratified in a Yoruba-Region Referendum as the Yoruba answer to the APC Manifesto on True Federalism and which, at this point of our history, is the only way out. Consequent interaction and political realities will determine the necessity or otherwise of a new party, which, if necessary, will be anchored on the Yoruba Regional Constitution and nothing else.

Shenge Rahman Akanbi, Femi Odedeyi
For and on behalf of Egbe Omo Oduduwa
e-mail: egbeomooduduwa1945@gmail.com









The Yoruba people did not make any mistake in voting out the government of Jonathan and installing the Buhari administration. Just because Asiwaju Tinumbu can no longer have his way with APC like he used to do with the defunct ACN does not translate to mean that Yoruba people have been cheated out of the power equation. Tinumbu is not synonymous with Yoruba people and vice- versa.

Come to think of it. We have more Yoruba sons and daughters occupying prime positions in this administration even to the envy and anger of some other ethnic groups, compare to Jonathan administration who relegated to the background our people who fought vehemently against hegemonic northern forces in order to help him claim his right to the presidency after the death of the then president, Umaru Yar' Adua.

I as a person cannot see how Yoruba people will still go ahead with all our level of education and political awareness, go ahead to return Good luck Jonathan to office again after all he did to our people. Even if we are to forgive him given that he managed our resources and economy very well, he never gave us the opportunity to give him the benefit of the doubt.

This is not to say that I am in support of how Asiwaju Tinumbu is being treated within the party. The truth is that what the party chairman did by corruptly aiding one of the governorship aspirants to win the party nomination for Ondo State gubernatorial election is appalling, reprehensible and condemnable. Oyegun Has lost the trust his party members reposed in him and I also concur with Tinumbu that he should resign.

As to President Buhari and Asiwaju Tinumbu relationship, I believe the same could have happened if the person Asiwaju sponsored to power is a Yorubaman. Awolowo and Akintola is a reference case in point.I don't believe that whatever disagreement existed between the president and Asiwaju has any ethnic undercurrent in it. It is simply the president wanting to be free from Tinumbu's unnecessary influence in his government. Even Fashola tried as governor of Lagos state to shake- off the control of Tinumbu at some point, albeit without success.

However, I would like to advise Yoruba people to exercise caution in the bid of some of us to equate Buhari/Tinumbu disagreement to mean the same as North vs Southwest political war because this is far from being so. This is not the time to destroy what we have achieved together. We should not allow emotion and sentiments to becloud our sense of reasoning. There is a shift in the direction the nation is going right now.Very soon the nation will no longer be overly dependent on oil revenue as its means of sustenance.

Finally, I would love to advise that the leadership of APC should call Asiwaju Tinumbu to resolve the differences between them What we need at this critical period in our national history is a stable and focused government with the full support of all party leaders members as well as the support of all citizens of this country.

God bless.

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by kamalcole3000: 2:21pm On Sep 29, 2016
All I see here is political and ideological jargons.

Since 1914 Amalgamation of North and South,there have bn political alliances and betrayal;its all part of politics as there no permanent friend friends or enemies but interest.

The northern element have always play and prey on the political differences between the West and East and their prayers will continually be that the perceived enemity continue BC they are the ones benefitting the most from it.

There is no gainsaying that despite the amalgam and living together of Nigerians from different region,our lifestyle,culture,orientation,political views remain different.like they say,a forced marriage will soon or later collapse no matter how long it takes.

What I expect from any leader in the South now is to understand that whether Cassandra or Hell rufai,Atiku or Ribadu,obasanjo or Jonathan.Nigeria will remain the same so they must fight to restructure this country.



The only thing the north wants is power and thy Dont give a damn if Nigeria is Rolled back 100 years.

In the event that they don't want Nigeria to break up,She must restructure along regional line and power devolve to the region.

Among all the six geopolitical zones in Nigeria,only the north west and north east do not want restructuring so if the remaining 4 region can fight for it,I can bet it they will win the war and Nigeria will be better for it.

Sori I have to here,my phone s going flat.
I'll be back!

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by 7lives: 3:01pm On Sep 29, 2016
rlauncher:


The Yoruba people did not make any mistake in voting out the government of Jonathan and installing the Buhari administration. Just because Asiwaju Tinumbu can no longer have his way with APC like he used to do with the defunct ACN does not translate to mean that Yoruba people have been cheated out of the power equation. Tinumbu is not synonymous with Yoruba people and vice- versa.

Come to think of it. We have more Yoruba sons and daughters occupying prime positions in this administration even to the envy and anger of some other ethnic groups, compare to Jonathan administration who relegated to the background our people who fought vehemently against hegemonic northern forces in order to help him claim his right to the presidency after the death of the then president, Umaru Yar' Adua.

I as a person cannot see how Yoruba people will still go ahead with all our level of education and political awareness, go ahead to return Good luck Jonathan to office again after all he did to our people. Even if we are to forgive him given that he managed our resources and economy very well, he never gave us the opportunity to give him the benefit of the doubt.

This is not to say that I am in support of how Asiwaju Tinumbu is being treated within the party. The truth is that what the party chairman did by corruptly aiding one of the governorship aspirants to win the party nomination for Ondo State gubernatorial election is appalling, reprehensible and condemnable. Oyegun Has lost the trust his party members reposed in him and I also concur with Tinumbu that he should resign.

As to President Buhari and Asiwaju Tinumbu relationship, I believe the same could have happened if the person Asiwaju sponsored to power is a Yorubaman. Awolowo and Akintola is a reference case in point.I don't believe that whatever disagreement existed between the president and Asiwaju has any ethnic undercurrent in it. It is simply the president wanting to be free from Tinumbu's unnecessary influence in his government. Even Fashola tried as governor of Lagos state to shake- off the control of Tinumbu at some point, albeit without success.

However, I would like to advise Yoruba people to exercise caution in the bid of some of us to equate Buhari/Tinumbu disagreement to mean the same as North vs Southwest political war because this is far from being so. This is not the time to destroy what we have achieved together. We should not allow emotion and sentiments to becloud our sense of reasoning. There is a shift in the direction the nation is going right now.Very soon the nation will no longer be overly dependent on oil revenue as its means of sustenance.

Finally, I would love to advise that the leadership of APC should call Asiwaju Tinumbu to resolve the differences between them What we need at this critical period in our national history is a stable and focused government with the full support of all party leaders members as well as the support of all citizens of this country.

God bless.

Your maturity simply left me wowed, bro you even matured pass Tinubu, Tinubu is blowing the issue out of proportion all he needed was to swallow this rubbish and wait for the appropriate period to PLANK Oyegun as ILA OYEGUN TI FE GA JU ONIRE LO.
Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by ElsonMorali: 3:52pm On Sep 29, 2016
If all these bullcrap is because some spoilt brat can't have his way anymore in manipulating our lives then I think it's time we tell ourselves the truth.

Inasmuch as we are grateful to Tinubu and others who fought hard to depose the satanic PDP party from maintaining it's strangle hold on Nigeria and Nigerians, we must insist that for this Democratic experiment to work in Nigeria they and other so-called big men of Nigerian political landscape should take it all down a notch otherwise everything will be ruined.


The fact that some select set of elites in the country can handpick leaders for us to follow sheepishly is unacceptable. The era of god-fatherism should have died with adedibu.

Frankly speaking I don't think African nations can do well under a democracy. Maybe it is time for Nigeria to metamorphose into a kingdom or an empire state the king should be chosen after a series of rigorous physical and mental hurdles have been passed.

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by rlauncher(m): 4:42pm On Sep 29, 2016
ElsonMorali:
If all these bullcrap is because some spoilt brat can't have his way anymore in manipulating our lives then I think it's time we tell ourselves the truth.

Inasmuch as we are grateful to Tinubu and others who fought hard to depose the satanic PDP party from maintaining it's strangle hold on Nigeria and Nigerians, we must insist that for this Democratic experiment to work in Nigeria they and other so-called big men of Nigerian political landscape should take it all down a notch otherwise everything will be ruined.


The fact that some select set of elites in the country can handpick leaders for us to follow sheepishly is unacceptable. The era of god-fatherism should have died with adedibu.

Frankly speaking I don't think African nations can do well under a democracy. Maybe it is time for Nigeria to metamorphose into a kingdom or an empire state the king should be chosen after a series of rigorous physical and mental hurdles have been passed.

Most of us clamouring for another form of government dont know what we are asking for. Mornachy and military dictatorship are basically the same thing, if not even worse. Democracy is still the best form of government. You can never enjoy the relative amount of freedom you are enjoying right now under a monarchy where the king can see your beautiful wife on the street and claim her. If you are in doubt ask one of your grand parents if they are still alive.

The problem with Africa is that good people are avoiding politics especially church people.We allow our denominational differences from allowing us to form a strong political parties that can challenge for power.This is not the case with the USA.There you find people of different denominational persuasions: Catholics, Protestants, Evangelicals, Adventitsetc; in the same political party coming together to achieve a common end.

We have more good people in Nigeria than we have bad ones. But when it comes to politics, we are nowhere to be found.So , we have to make do with what we have on ground.

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by rlauncher(m): 5:26pm On Sep 29, 2016
kamalcole3000:
All I see here is political and ideological jargons.

Since 1914 Amalgamation of North and South,there have bn political alliances and betrayal;its all part of politics as there no permanent friend friends or enemies but interest.

The northern element have always play and prey on the political differences between the West and East and their prayers will continually be that the perceived enemity continue BC they are the ones benefitting the most from it.

There is no gainsaying that despite the amalgam and living together of Nigerians from different region,our lifestyle,culture,orientation,political views remain different.like they say,a forced marriage will soon or later collapse no matter how long it takes.

What I expect from any leader in the South now is to understand that whether Cassandra or Hell rufai,Atiku or Ribadu,obasanjo or Jonathan.Nigeria will remain the same so they must fight to restructure this country.



The only thing the north wants is power and thy Dont give a damn if Nigeria is Rolled back 100 years.

In the event that they don't want Nigeria to break up,She must restructure along regional line and power devolve to the region.

Among all the six geopolitical zones in Nigeria,only the north west and north east do not want restructuring so if the remaining 4 region can fight for it,I can bet it they will win the war and Nigeria will be better for it.

Sori I have to here,my phone s going flat.
I'll be back!


We should not deceive ourselves. We will never get a restructured Nigeria under a Northern presidency neither will Nigeria break up for lack of it, although some Nigerians are foolishly daydreaming about the possibility of a break up.

What baffles me about some regions in this country is that they have decided to sit down and fold their arms and do nothing with the resources that accrues to them from the centre right now until they can have the resource control they are clamouring for. I think this is unwise.

The truth is that the North are bidding their time. They want to be sure they can stand on their own feet before agreeing with the rest of Nigeria to restructure. A lot is going on right now to ensure that the rest of this country no longer have to depend on Niger Delta oil for sustenance in the future.I therefore would love to advise all Nigerians to make the best out of what we have on ground until we are able to get a southerner who will help to midwife true federalism into power.

We can do this by promoting peace in our region in order to attract investments, local and international into our respective regions. Even indigenes of volatile regions are taking their businesses to other regions that are more peaceful. We should engage in business entrepreneurship and make sure that we hold our political leaders accountable for our resources under their trust, even if other regions are protecting their own from being questioned or probed.

Finally, participate in politics.Take responsibilities within the party.Aim high for positions within the party.Always try to be in front and not within the crowd .This is how you get noticed. Be honest and resist any acts or attempts by anyone to compromise your principle. Don't run away from the party because of the bad people in it but try to manage them. Build a Caucasus of good people like you within the party by encouraging more people of likeminds like you to join the party and continue to do this until your numbers form a significant influence or even a majority within the party. Before you know it , we are having a significant number of godly and highly principled people vying for elective post within your party and also representing their constituencies in the national and states assemblies.

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by Justiceleague1: 5:45pm On Sep 29, 2016
Afonja ke! Thunda faya dem. angry
dem neva chim chumching. Zombies..
U reap what u sow. Ye shall lick and scrub the anus of hausa/fulani for a very very looong time. Ye shall be with them for a very looooong time even after the Igbos and niger delta are gone.

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 6:03pm On Sep 29, 2016
Lmao at the dude who said the relegation of Tinubu isn't same as relegation of yoruba.
Self deception. This is not how you guys put it before the elections.
It's only Tinubu that can save your asses in apc.

The same person claims Buhari has more yorubas in his cabinet than Johnathan and is using it to campaign.
Wow. So, What's the point of having 'yorubas without yoruba agenda ' in the government, the so called betrayals ?
And that's exactly what the north is trying to do.
Keep pretending it isn't a North SW fight till the betrayals become another obasanjo to you, and as usual, you will start doing DNA tests to see if Fashola's ancestors are Igbos.

Elrufai is more influential as we speak than Osinbajo.

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by ElsonMorali: 6:17pm On Sep 29, 2016
rlauncher:


Most of us clamouring for another form of government dont know what we are asking for. Mornachy and military dictatorship are basically the same thing, if not even worse. Democracy is still the best form of government. You can never enjoy the relative amount of freedom you are enjoying right now under a monarchy where the king can see your beautiful wife on the street and claim her. If you are in doubt ask one of your grand parents if they are still alive.

The problem with Africa is that good people are avoiding politics especially church people.We allow our denominational differences from allowing us to form a strong political parties that can challenge for power.This is not the case with the USA.There you find people of different denominational persuasions: Catholics, Protestants, Evangelicals, Adventitsetc; in the same political party coming together to achieve a common end.

We have more good people in Nigeria than we have bad ones. But when it comes to politics, we are nowhere to be found.So , we have to make do with what we have on ground.

I agree with most of your assertions. After practicing democracy for this long all we get is retrogression, and rabid politicians.

The people are worse off than when they we're under the colonial masters.

Our society is so fractured that to lead a reasonable revolution is out of the question.

If we continue like this, trust me it's only a matter of time before the military boys come back.

We haven't reached that place where we can be rest assured that such can never happen.

All we see are old impotent politicians deciding the fate of young virile men.

The UAE is not operating a democracy is it? Yet Dubai is a world tourist centre.

Maybe our democracy needs a lot of tweaking, where we blend the western style of democracy with our own style of monarchy. The result may be a pleasant surprise.

In the old Oyo Empire, if the king, the Alaafin commits a crime the people will demand for his head and traditionally he is required to commit suicide immediately.

Our systems aren't all backwards as such.

All I'm saying is let's evolve our own form of governance. We don't have to do it the oyinbo way.

If we are able to cut out the necessity for the arm of government called the legislature, that I'm sure will be nice.

I don't see the reason why a bunch of thrives and rogues should be making laws for us anyway.
Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by JimiOgunlola: 6:30pm On Sep 29, 2016
One APC zombie up there calls himself a 'yoruba man' but keep saying 'Tinumbu' 'Tinumbu' 'Tinumbu', and trying to downplay the effect of 'Tinumbu' isolation from Buhari's government, on yoruba psyche after helping him win an election.

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by Nobody: 6:32pm On Sep 29, 2016
rlauncher:


The Yoruba people did not make any mistake in voting out the government of Jonathan and installing the Buhari administration. Just because Asiwaju Tinumbu can no longer have his way with APC like he used to do with the defunct ACN does not translate to mean that Yoruba people have been cheated out of the power equation. Tinumbu is not synonymous with Yoruba people and vice- versa.

Come to think of it. We have more Yoruba sons and daughters occupying prime positions in this administration even to the envy and anger of some other ethnic groups, compare to Jonathan administration who relegated to the background our people who fought vehemently against hegemonic northern forces in order to help him claim his right to the presidency after the death of the then president, Umaru Yar' Adua.

I as a person cannot see how Yoruba people will still go ahead with all our level of education and political awareness, go ahead to return Good luck Jonathan to office again after all he did to our people. Even if we are to forgive him given that he managed our resources and economy very well, he never gave us the opportunity to give him the benefit of the doubt.

This is not to say that I am in support of how Asiwaju Tinumbu is being treated within the party. The truth is that what the party chairman did by corruptly aiding one of the governorship aspirants to win the party nomination for Ondo State gubernatorial election is appalling, reprehensible and condemnable. Oyegun Has lost the trust his party members reposed in him and I also concur with Tinumbu that he should resign.

As to President Buhari and Asiwaju Tinumbu relationship, I believe the same could have happened if the person Asiwaju sponsored to power is a Yorubaman. Awolowo and Akintola is a reference case in point.I don't believe that whatever disagreement existed between the president and Asiwaju has any ethnic undercurrent in it. It is simply the president wanting to be free from Tinumbu's unnecessary influence in his government. Even Fashola tried as governor of Lagos state to shake- off the control of Tinumbu at some point, albeit without success.

However, I would like to advise Yoruba people to exercise caution in the bid of some of us to equate Buhari/Tinumbu disagreement to mean the same as North vs Southwest political war because this is far from being so. This is not the time to destroy what we have achieved together. We should not allow emotion and sentiments to becloud our sense of reasoning. There is a shift in the direction the nation is going right now.Very soon the nation will no longer be overly dependent on oil revenue as its means of sustenance.

Finally, I would love to advise that the leadership of APC should call Asiwaju Tinumbu to resolve the differences between them What we need at this critical period in our national history is a stable and focused government with the full support of all party leaders members as well as the support of all citizens of this country.

God bless.

Sometimes I find it hard responding to the myopic views of some people. As for the bolded statements, I respond thus:

'The Yoruba people did not make any mistake in voting out the government of Jonathan'. Big LIE.
The Yorubas made a Big mistake in voting out Jonathan and that is widely known. Even your elders are lamenting and the extra high cost of living at present attests to this.

'We have more Yoruba sons and daughters occupying prime positions in this administration' Big LIE.
Yorubas do NOT occupy any prime position in this govt. Yorubas occupy Crumbs, the positions that the fulani's consider irrelevant are the positions dashed to the yorubas for the betrayal of Southern interest. The ministerial positions occupied by yorubas are inconsequential because the permanent secs of those ministries are northerners and they can bypass the ministers if need be, as long as bubu is presido. Besides, what positions do the yorubas hold that the Igbos have not held before and what is the basis for the 'envy' over crumbs.

'cannot see how Yoruba people will still go ahead with all our level of education and political awareness' Big LIE.
A people who never learn from history cannot be said to be educated and politically aware. Starting with Afonja, Awo, Akintola, Abiola, kudirat, Diya, Adisa and now Tinubu. All these men met their doom in the hands of the illetrate abokis'. One begins to wonder how the so-called 'educated' and 'politically aware' tribe will repeatedly be 'politically messed up' by global illetrate abokis. Finally, in the southern region, the yorubas are lagging behind educationally. The SE and SS are ahead.

'This is not the time to destroy what we have achieved together'. Big LIE.
The north and sw have NOT achieved anything together. The fact remains that Tinubu has been sidelined in the party he single handedly built. had it been ACN, Tinubu would have decided who wins the gov. ticket; but that is no more. The abokis now decide who wins the APC gov. ticket for yorubaland. The fact remains that there is no 'trust' between the north and sw, hence both sides are technically OYO.

In some People, myopia and slavery present themselves as 'education' and 'treachery' as wisdom. Every decision comes with a price. that price is the opportunity we lose for choosing the other decision; thus it is called the opportunity cost. Selling yourselves into slavery just to oust Jonathan is too Much of a price to pay. Yorubas sold themselves into slavery thinking that they were humiliating the SS/SE. Now, they must remain with the north. They are bound to, because they cannot return to the SS/SE. they must endure all 'shit' the north throws at them because they cannot re-join the south. This is the 'slavery' some of us talk about.

No matter the lies and excuses some e-warriors give; no matter the contrived news wirtten in the yoruba media; Every discerning Nigerian knows this as a fact.

And now, the evil yoruba media has lost its power. It exhausted its power just to oust jonathan. Good for Nigeria, the propagandic power of the yorubas is gone. Nigerians are wiser and Nigeria will get better because one of its biggest problems has obliterated itself. Jonathan was God sent.

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by rlauncher(m): 6:39pm On Sep 29, 2016
ElsonMorali:


I agree with most of your assertions. After practicing democracy for this long all we get is retrogression, and rabid politicians.

The people are worse off than when they we're under the colonial masters.

Our society is so fractured that to lead a reasonable revolution is out of the question.

If we continue like this, trust me it's only a matter of time before the military boys come back.

We haven't reached that place where we can be rest assured that such can never happen.

All we see are old impotent politicians deciding the fate of young virile men.

The UAE is not operating a democracy is it? Yet Dubai is a world tourist centre.

Maybe our democracy needs a lot of tweaking, where we blend the western style of democracy with our own style of monarchy. The result may be a pleasant surprise.

In the old Oyo Empire, if the king, the Alaafin commits a crime the people will demand for his head and traditionally he is required to commit suicide immediately.

Our systems aren't all backwards as such.

All I'm saying is let's evolve our own form of governance. We don't have to do it the oyinbo way.

If we are able to cut out the necessity for the arm of government called the legislature, that I'm sure will be nice.

I don't see the reason why a bunch of thrives and rogues should be making laws for us anyway.

You don't know Yoruba history very well, the Alaafins did get away with a lot of atrocities before they are eventually removed. In fact they are rarely removed from office.
Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by RockHard: 6:50pm On Sep 29, 2016
@rlauncher: Which one is "Tinumbu"?? Apparently you one of those Yorubas(?) that likes deceiving themselves. The APC is way too factionalized to survive beyond 2019, that's the truth. The Atikus, Kwankwansos, and the Sarakis are biding their time to also take their pound of flesh from Buhari. And going by recent revelations, Tinubu would be stupid to pretend as though all is well with his political fortunes, or to think that this can be 'resolved' as a family affair. What he revealed wasn't new because we had all been hearing about it since the primaries held, yet most people made it seem like it didn't matter, until he voiced out and FFK added icing to the unfolding drama. He's already lost much ground politically and the best thing for him would be to tactfully withdraw from the APC, take stock and gradually regain lost ground (after all he's a politician and he's entitled to his political survival) before they finish him off because the power brokers at the presidency will always see him as a threat for as long as he remains in the party. He's better off as a free-agent from hereon.

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by ificatchmodeh: 7:08pm On Sep 29, 2016
Realman87:


Sometimes I find it hard responding to the myopic views of some people. As for the bolded statements, I respond thus:

'The Yoruba people did not make any mistake in voting out the government of Jonathan'. Big LIE.
The Yorubas made a Big mistake in voting out Jonathan and that is widely known. Even your elders are lamenting and the extra high cost of living at present attests to this.

'We have more Yoruba sons and daughters occupying prime positions in this administration' Big LIE.
Yorubas do NOT occupy any prime position in this govt. Yorubas occupy Crumbs, the positions that the fulani's consider irrelevant are the positions dashed to the yorubas for the betrayal of Southern interest. The ministerial positions occupied by yorubas are inconsequential because the permanent secs of those ministries are northerners and they can bypass the ministers if need be, as long as bubu is presido. Besides, what positions do the yorubas hold that the Igbos have not held before and what is the basis for the 'envy' over crumbs.

'cannot see how Yoruba people will still go ahead with all our level of education and political awareness' Big LIE.
A people who never learn from history cannot be said to be educated and politically aware. Starting with Afonja, Awo, Akintola, Abiola, kudirat, Diya, Adisa and now Tinubu. All these men met their doom in the hands of the illetrate abokis'. One begins to wonder how the so-called 'educated' and 'politically aware' tribe will repeatedly be 'politically messed up' by global illetrate abokis. Finally, in the southern region, the yorubas are lagging behind educationally. The SE and SS are ahead.

'This is not the time to destroy what we have achieved together'. Big LIE.
The north and sw have NOT achieved anything together. The fact remains that Tinubu has been sidelined in the party he single handedly built. had it been ACN, Tinubu would have decided who wins the gov. ticket; but that is no more. The abokis now decide who wins the APC gov. ticket for yorubaland. The fact remains that there is no 'trust' between the north and sw, hence both sides are technically OYO.

In some People, myopia and slavery present themselves as 'education' and 'treachery' as wisdom. Every decision comes with a price. that price is the opportunity we lose for choosing the other decision; thus it is called the opportunity cost. Selling yourselves into slavery just to oust Jonathan is too Much of a price to pay. Yorubas sold themselves into slavery thinking that they were humiliating the SS/SE. Now, they must remain with the north. They are bound to, because they cannot return to the SS/SE. they must endure all 'shit' the north throws at them because they cannot re-join the south. This is the 'slavery' some of us talk about.

No matter the lies and excuses some e-warriors give; no matter the contrived news wirtten in the yoruba media; Every discerning Nigerian knows this as a fact.

And now, the evil yoruba media has lost its power. It exhausted its power just to oust jonathan. Good for Nigeria, the propagandic power of the yorubas is gone. Nigerians are wiser and Nigeria will get better because one of its biggest problems has obliterated itself. Jonathan was God sent.


My friend you're on point..

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by rlauncher(m): 7:16pm On Sep 29, 2016
Realman87:


Sometimes I find it hard responding to the myopic views of some people. As for the bolded statements, I respond thus:

'The Yoruba people did not make any mistake in voting out the government of Jonathan'. Big LIE.
The Yorubas made a Big mistake in voting out Jonathan and that is widely known. Even your elders are lamenting and the extra high cost of living at present attests to this.

'We have more Yoruba sons and daughters occupying prime positions in this administration' Big LIE.
Yorubas do NOT occupy any prime position in this govt. Yorubas occupy Crumbs, the positions that the fulani's consider irrelevant are the positions dashed to the yorubas for the betrayal of Southern interest. The ministerial positions occupied by yorubas are inconsequential because the permanent secs of those ministries are northerners and they can bypass the ministers if need be, as long as bubu is presido. Besides, what positions do the yorubas hold that the Igbos have not held before and what is the basis for the 'envy' over crumbs.

'cannot see how Yoruba people will still go ahead with all our level of education and political awareness' Big LIE.
A people who never learn from history cannot be said to be educated and politically aware. Starting with Afonja, Awo, Akintola, Abiola, kudirat, Diya, Adisa and now Tinubu. All these men met their doom in the hands of the illetrate abokis'. One begins to wonder how the so-called 'educated' and 'politically aware' tribe will repeatedly be 'politically messed up' by global illetrate abokis. Finally, in the southern region, the yorubas are lagging behind educationally. The SE and SS are ahead.

'This is not the time to destroy what we have achieved together'. Big LIE.
The north and sw have NOT achieved anything together. The fact remains that Tinubu has been sidelined in the party he single handedly built. had it been ACN, Tinubu would have decided who wins the gov. ticket; but that is no more. The abokis now decide who wins the APC gov. ticket for yorubaland. The fact remains that there is no 'trust' between the north and sw, hence both sides are technically OYO.

In some People, myopia and slavery present themselves as 'education' and 'treachery' as wisdom. Every decision comes with a price. that price is the opportunity we lose for choosing the other decision; thus it is called the opportunity cost. Selling yourselves into slavery just to oust Jonathan is too Much of a price to pay. Yorubas sold themselves into slavery thinking that they were humiliating the SS/SE. Now, they must remain with the north. They are bound to, because they cannot return to the SS/SE. they must endure all 'shit' the north throws at them because they cannot re-join the south. This is the 'slavery' some of us talk about.

No matter the lies and excuses some e-warriors give; no matter the contrived news wirtten in the yoruba media; Every discerning Nigerian knows this as a fact.

And now, the evil yoruba media has lost its power. It exhausted its power just to oust jonathan. Good for Nigeria, the propagandic power of the yorubas is gone. Nigerians are wiser and Nigeria will get better because one of its biggest problems has obliterated itself. Jonathan was God sent.


I am not myopic like you claim. This is Nigeria where power must rotate between north and south.Southerners have ruled Nigeria for the most part since the return of democracy in 1999 with nothing to show for it.You cannot go on imagining that only southerners will continue to rule Nigeria under democracy. You and I know that northerners will have their own turn, and that is what is going on right now.

We southerners wasted the chance to restructure this country when we have the opportunity. We must lean to accept the fact that northerners too have the right to rule under democracy and stop feeling inferior to them.

Our focus now should be what we can do under the circumstances we find ourselves to help develop our respective states. I am from Ogun state. In Ogun state today, lots and lots of its indigenes are going into agriculture, mining and manufacturing. We don't waste our precious time complaining that a northerner is in power. We focus on what matter the most- developing our state even when we know that the FG will collect the main taxes. Many other people that I know are also planning to go into productive ventures soon. This is what matters.


Many governors and their people don't want to develop their mineral resources because they are afraid that the FG will collect the main taxes. But we need to learn from the example of Lagos. Even though the FG cart away more than N300billion from Lagos annually, it is still able to generate another N300billion for itself.


In some years to come, you will find out that it is not who produce the president that really matter, but what you do with your state economically. Economic power is better than political power in poverty.

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by JimiOgunlola: 7:19pm On Sep 29, 2016
InyinyaAgbaOku:
Lmao at the dude who said the relegation of Tinubu isn't same as relegation of yoruba.
Self deception. This is not how you guys put it before the elections.
It's only Tinubu that can save your asses in apc.

The same person claims Buhari has more yorubas in his cabinet than Johnathan and is using it to campaign.
Wow. So, What's the point of having 'yorubas without yoruba agenda ' in the government, the so called betrayals ?
And that's exactly what the north is trying to do.
Keep pretending it isn't a North SW fight till the betrayals become another obasanjo to you, and as usual, you will start doing DNA tests to see if Fashola's ancestors are Igbos.

Elrufai is more influential as we speak than Osinbajo.

The guy is a fulani man trying to cajole yorubas to forget 'Tinumbu' and support the dullard. He claimed to be yoruba, in order to appeal to their ethic sentiments.

The whole word knows that the isolation of 'Tinumbu' is a big slap on the face of the yorubas who wanted to die for the fulani dullard pre-2015.
Fulani 2: 0 yoruba

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by ificatchmodeh: 7:21pm On Sep 29, 2016
They west right now is confused..
Wish em the best of the situation.

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by rlauncher(m): 7:26pm On Sep 29, 2016
JimiOgunlola:
One APC zombie up there calls himself a 'yoruba man' but keep saying 'Tinumbu' 'Tinumbu' 'Tinumbu', and trying to downplay the effect of 'Tinumbu' isolation from Buhari's government, on yoruba psyche after helping him win an election.

Yoruba people should not allow themselves to be distracted with ethnic jingoism from what matters the most- Economic Might and Power. In South Africa, the blacks rule but the whites own the wealth of the nation.

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by Nobody: 7:26pm On Sep 29, 2016
rlauncher:


I am not myopic like you claim. This is Nigeria where power must rotate between north and south.Southerners have ruled Nigeria for the most part since the return of democracy in 1999 with nothing to show for it.You cannot go on imagining that only southerners will continue to rule Nigeria under democracy. You and I know that northerners will have their own turn, and that is what is going on right now.

We southerners wasted the chance to restructure this country when we have the opportunity. We must lean to accept the fact that northerners too have the right to rule under democracy and stop feeling inferior to them.

Our focus now should be what we can do under the circumstances we find ourselves to help develop our respective states. I am from Ogun state. In Ogun state today, lots and lots of its indigenes are going into agriculture, mining and manufacturing. We don't waste our precious time complaining that a northerner is in power. We focus on what matter the most- developing our state even when we know that the FG will collect the main taxes. Many other people that I know are also planning to go into productive ventures soon. This is what matters.


Many governors and their people don't want to develop their mineral resources because they are afraid that the FG will collect the main taxes. But we need to learn from the example of Lagos. Even though the FG cart away more than N300billion from Lagos annually, it is still able to generate another N300billion for itself.


In some years to come, you will find out that it is not who produce the president that really matter, but what you do with your state economically. Economic power is better than political power in poverty.

Lol. I can 'shoot' down your statement point by point but it is time consuming and it is not worth it.
The attempts to reposition and restructure Nigeria was Scuttled by the same yorubas. During the Obasanjo national conference, yorubas 'opposed' full resource control and this is well documented. Jonathan's 2015 conference report is now 'thrash' because yorubas voted for appointments. I can go on and on 'shooting' and 'exorcising' the innate hypocrisy in your people but I don't have the time. Good day.

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by Olu317(m): 7:29pm On Sep 29, 2016
it is pathetic with the manner in which some very few elements in the midst of APC are making Ashiwaju Achmed Tinubu look as if he doesn't have weight and I really thank you people for your effort going through history of 1965 when wild wild west(wetie ) happened. These elements don't always see the handwriting on the wall and I hope they can learn from history because I truly can not find the touch of late Akintola in today's Yoruba but Awothesis still exist in practicability. Let Akeredolu know that truth is one of the greatest philosophy on which Yoruba Race is based and it has never been said that people hadn't perverted it but what does history record about the truth pervert?.I don't have any iota of doubt the Akeredolu being the flag bearer of APC in ONDO which was done via fraudulent manipulation. And genuinely I will want Jagaban to sheathe his sword as there is an adage yorubland which say, eje ka le yooro lo ki a wa fi abo si a aduiye . It is disheartening to see people like Raji Babatunde Fashola,Kayodee Fayemi etc, hardworking and brilliant gentlemen ,saw what is going on and not voicing out against these elements despite the position they presently occupies in Nigeria saw how Yoruba people of Ondo state were wrongfully robbed even the truth was before the whole world and the call for rerun was initiated which was put to voting. As the truth is a priority in Yoruba society. And at the time of voting for and against rerun which was done to showe the atrocity committed by the evil forces in Yoruba land,there and then the progressive won evil forces declared the purported Akeredolu as the flag bearer so as to craft a division among Yoruba people but lo!, they didn't know Yoruba are sophisticated people and it shall be proven to the whole Nigeria once again. It is important to note that Irrespective of the anti Tinubu in APC, Ashiwaju has produce performers governors in office and better than the rest governors in the south west in the previous past and even the current . I thank God that despite the minister of finance being a Yoruba woman with her lovely accent and brilliancy, she isnt Tinubu's anointed one and we can see where we are presently with all the harsh economic reform decision that chased away investors from Nigeria in a jiffy and we have ourselves to blame . Let those yoruba dinning with the devil at the center ought to learn From Late sage CHIEF OBAFEMI AWOLOWO.YORUBA ROONU

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by rlauncher(m): 7:36pm On Sep 29, 2016
Realman87:


Lol. I can 'shoot' down your statement point by point but it is time consuming and it is not worth it.
The attempts to reposition and restructure Nigeria was Scuttled by the same yorubas. During the Obasanjo national conference, yorubas 'opposed' full resource control and this is well documented. Jonathan's 2015 conference report is now 'thrash' because yorubas voted for appointments. I can go on and on 'shooting' and 'exorcising' the innate hypocrisy in your people but I don't have the time. Good day.

Stop misinforming the public with the lies you people like to peddle about Yoruba people amongst yourselves.

While you people were asking for resource control, a narrow minded concept, we demanded for fiscal federalism which is a more broader concept that encapsulate resource control.

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by rlauncher(m): 7:42pm On Sep 29, 2016
Olu317:
it is pathetic with the manner in which some very few elements in the midst of APC are making Ashiwaju Achmed Tinubu look as if he doesn't have weight and I really thank you people for your effort going through history of 1965 when wild wild west(wetie ) happened. These elements don't always see the handwriting on the wall and I hope they can learn from history because I truly can not find the touch of late Akintola in today's Yoruba but Awothesis still exist in practicability. Let Akeredolu know that truth is one of the greatest philosophy on which Yoruba Race is based and it has never been said that people hadn't perverted it but what does history record about the truth pervert?.I don't have any iota of doubt the Akeredolu being the flag bearer of APC in ONDO which was done via fraudulent manipulation. And genuinely I will want Jagaban to sheathe his sword as there is an adage yorubland which say, eje ka le yooro lo ki a wa fi abo si a aduiye . It is disheartening to see people like Raji Babatunde Fashola,Kayodee Fayemi etc, hardworking and brilliant gentlemen ,saw what is going on and not voicing out against these elements despite the position they presently occupies in Nigeria saw how Yoruba people of Ondo state were wrongfully robbed even the truth was before the whole world and the call for rerun was initiated which was put to voting. As the truth is a priority in Yoruba society. And at the time of voting for and against rerun which was done to showe the atrocity committed by the evil forces in Yoruba land,there and then the progressive won evil forces declared the purported Akeredolu as the flag bearer so as to craft a division among Yoruba people but lo!, they didn't know Yoruba are sophisticated people and it shall be proven to the whole Nigeria once again. It is important to note that Irrespective of the anti Tinubu in APC, Ashiwaju has produce performers governors in office and better than the rest governors in the south west in the previous past and even the current . I thank God that despite the minister of finance being a Yoruba woman with her lovely accent and brilliancy, she isnt Tinubu's anointed one and we can see where we are presently with all the harsh economic reform decision that chased away investors from Nigeria in a jiffy and we have ourselves to blame . Let those yoruba dinning with the devil at the center ought to learn From Late sage CHIEF OBAFEMI AWOLOWO.YORUBA ROONU

This comments of yours indicate that you did not read my first comment properly.

However, I believe that Yoruba stake in Nigeria is bigger than Tinumbu.
Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by MadamExcellency: 7:49pm On Sep 29, 2016
rlauncher:

[s]
The Yoruba people did not make any mistake in voting out the government of Jonathan and installing the Buhari administration. Just because Asiwaju Tinumbu can no longer have his way with APC like he used to do with the defunct ACN does not translate to mean that Yoruba people have been cheated out of the power equation. Tinumbu is not synonymous with Yoruba people and vice- versa.

Come to think of it. We have more Yoruba sons and daughters occupying prime positions in this administration even to the envy and anger of some other ethnic groups, compare to Jonathan administration who relegated to the background our people who fought vehemently against hegemonic northern forces in order to help him claim his right to the presidency after the death of the then president, Umaru Yar' Adua.

I as a person cannot see how Yoruba people will still go ahead with all our level of education and political awareness, go ahead to return Good luck Jonathan to office again after all he did to our people. Even if we are to forgive him given that he managed our resources and economy very well, he never gave us the opportunity to give him the benefit of the doubt.

This is not to say that I am in support of how Asiwaju Tinumbu is being treated within the party. The truth is that what the party chairman did by corruptly aiding one of the governorship aspirants to win the party nomination for Ondo State gubernatorial election is appalling, reprehensible and condemnable. Oyegun Has lost the trust his party members reposed in him and I also concur with Tinumbu that he should resign.

As to President Buhari and Asiwaju Tinumbu relationship, I believe the same could have happened if the person Asiwaju sponsored to power is a Yorubaman. Awolowo and Akintola is a reference case in point.I don't believe that whatever disagreement existed between the president and Asiwaju has any ethnic undercurrent in it. It is simply the president wanting to be free from Tinumbu's unnecessary influence in his government. Even Fashola tried as governor of Lagos state to shake- off the control of Tinumbu at some point, albeit without success.

However, I would like to advise Yoruba people to exercise caution in the bid of some of us to equate Buhari/Tinumbu disagreement to mean the same as North vs Southwest political war because this is far from being so. This is not the time to destroy what we have achieved together. We should not allow emotion and sentiments to becloud our sense of reasoning. There is a shift in the direction the nation is going right now.Very soon the nation will no longer be overly dependent on oil revenue as its means of sustenance.

Finally, I would love to advise that the leadership of APC should call Asiwaju Tinumbu to resolve the differences between them What we need at this critical period in our national history is a stable and focused government with the full support of all party leaders members as well as the support of all citizens of this country.

God bless.[/s]

What an unrepentant fellow still repeating the propaganda that brought us into deep shit.

The only sin of Jonathan against the West was putting the Easterners in the positions of authority even without marginalizing or neglecting Yoruba Sons and Daughters.

The grave injustice that happened during Jonathan administration against the Southwest was orchestrated by Tinubu in denying one of their own the Speakership of the HOR.

So, stop vomiting trash.

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by rlauncher(m): 8:23pm On Sep 29, 2016
JimiOgunlola:


The guy is a fulani man trying to cajole yorubas to forget 'Tinumbu' and support the dullard. He claimed to be yoruba, in order to appeal to their ethic sentiments.

The whole word knows that the isolation of 'Tinumbu' is a big slap on the face of the yorubas who wanted to die for the fulani dullard pre-2015.
Fulani 2: 0 yoruba


I am miffed at the way some Southerners display their inferiority complex towards northerners. You need to train up and develop your mind. I used to think like you before blaming everybody elAPCespecially northerners for the problems of Nigeria. After doing a lot of studies about personal development and leadership, I've leant to focus on what matters the most- focussing on what I can do personally to help transform the society rather than involving in ethnic fights.

What is happening between Buhari and Tinumbu is not unexpected. Tinumbu should not try to drag the entire Yoruba people into it. A time will come when power will shift to the south again and then to the north and so on and there will always be disagreement between politicians like we are having it now. It is never going to stop.

This commentator is not a fool. The enemies of Yoruba people are praying for the APC to spit apart so that they can gloat. Some of us opposing my comments cannot see beyond the bridge of our nose.

The APC leadership can settle their differences in- house and purnish the APC Chairman for his perfidy.

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by ElsonMorali: 8:37pm On Sep 29, 2016
rlauncher:


You don't know Yoruba history very well, the Alaafins did get away with a lot of atrocities before they are eventually removed. In fact they are rarely removed from office.

I'm actually writing a book concerning old Oyo empire and yes I've done extensive research. Of course there are abuses of the institution as there'll always be in any human institution, yet I think there are good aspects of our respective culture that can come to play in our socio-politico life in Nigeria.

Democracy isn't for everybody. The Arab countries seem to be doing well, and most of them are oil producing like Nigeria. They aren't practising democracy. Same with China and some other countries in the orients.

Even our colonial masters practise a form of democracy that's quite different from that of America.

A total overhaul of the Nigerian political structure is what's needed right now. Let's evolve our own. Who knows maybe ours would be the standard for the world in the future.

Can you imagine people are still stealing ballot boxes in this day and age.

As long as we continue this democracy stuff Nigeria won't make much progress.

My opinion though.
Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by ElsonMorali: 8:42pm On Sep 29, 2016
MadamExcellency:


What an unrepentant fellow still repeating the propaganda that brought us into deep shit.

The only sin of Jonathan against the West was putting the Easterners in the positions of authority even without marginalizing or neglecting Yoruba Sons and Daughters.

The grave injustice that happened during Jonathan administration against the Southwest was orchestrated by Tinubu in denying one of their own the Speakership of the HOR.

So, stop vomiting trash.

The easterners he put in power were his undoing. They helped him fail even though we know the man didn't have an iota of leadership running in his vain. Just a complete buffoon he was and his eastern ladies took advantage of that.

They used the opportunity to milk the nation dry. So sad.

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by ificatchmodeh: 8:52pm On Sep 29, 2016
MadamExcellency:


What an unrepentant fellow still repeating the propaganda that brought us into deep shit.

The only sin of Jonathan against the West was putting the Easterners in the positions of authority even without marginalizing or neglecting Yoruba Sons and Daughters.

The grave injustice that happened during Jonathan administration against the Southwest was orchestrated by Tinubu in denying one of their own the Speakership of the HOR.

So, stop vomiting trash.


On point..

Some of this people come on line to rewrite history..
They're confused..and think other nigerians are confused like them.

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by RockHard: 8:58pm On Sep 29, 2016
rlauncher:


I am miffed at the way some Southerners display their inferiority complex towards northerners. You need to train up and develop your mind. I used to think like you before blaming everybody elAPCespecially northerners for the problems of Nigeria. After doing a lot of studies about personal development and leadership, I've leant to focus on what matters the most- focussing on what I can do personally to help transform the society rather than involving in ethnic fights.

What is happening between Buhari and Tinumbu is not unexpected. Tinumbu should not try to drag the entire Yoruba people into it. A time will come when power will shift to the south again and then to the north and so on and there will always be disagreement between politicians like we are having it now. It is never going to stop.

This commentator is not a fool. The enemies of Yoruba people are praying for the APC to spit apart so that they can gloat. Some of us opposing my comments cannot see beyond the bridge of our nose.

The APC leadership can settle their differences in- house and purnish the APC Chairman for his perfidy.

Did you say the APC Chairman should be 'punished for his perfidy'? Or did you mean to say he should be scapegoated?? Goodness! Why are you being dishonest? Who are you trying to fool? Oyegun will likely take the fall for merely taking orders from the Presidency. That is a FACT that any sincere person understands by now. Why not ask that those at the presidency calling the shots and responsible for the scandal be probed and dealt with instead.

And point of correction, APC is NOT the only party that can salvage the country, so quit making it sound as if the APC is the only platform that can turn things around for Nigeria or Yorubas. If things don't improve for the common man, you best believe that no amount of 'fighting corruption' (which the average hungry Nigerian is tired of hearing sef) will save Buhari and the APC come 2019. If the APC splits tomorrow, another national party will arise out of its ashes to take its place.

If anything, the APC/Buhari has so far showed itself to be incapable and incompetent in managing a complex country like Nigeria. His pro-North policies, Fulani Herdsmen are on rampage all over the country with impunity, Biafra agitation and Niger-Delta insurgency are unprecedented, the naira/economy is in shambles. All this within less than 2-years of this administration. Yet you are here making it sound as though the APC is indispensable. Abeg park well.

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by ificatchmodeh: 8:58pm On Sep 29, 2016
ElsonMorali:


The easterners he put in power were his undoing. They helped him fail even though we know the man didn't have an iota of leadership running in his vain. Just a complete buffoon he was and his eastern ladies took advantage of that.

They used the opportunity to milk the nation dry. So sad.

Your confused mr man..
So the Easterners were the cause of jonathan failure..
Haba..see reasoning..
You see why I agree with the ibos atimes..you guys are really insecured.
So au many of those easteners have been jailed..since they milked the economy..
And why has your sophisticated westerners in the present administration not been able to pull nigeria outta of recession.. in which the ruling party plunge us undecided

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Re: The Question Before The Yoruba Nation by ElsonMorali: 9:22pm On Sep 29, 2016
ificatchmodeh:


Your confused mr man..
So the Easterners were the cause of jonathan failure..
Haba..see reasoning..
You see why I agree with the ibos atimes..you guys are really insecured.
So au many of those easteners have been jailed..since they milked the economy..
And why has your sophisticated westerners in the present administration not been able to pull nigeria outta of recession.. in which the ruling party plunge us undecided

I mentioned easterners in his government and not the entire region didn't I?

The lady I quoted was the one who brought up the issue of Easterner and Westerner.

It is a matter of fact that the women closest to Jonathan's government helped him ruin his government. whether it is a coincidence that most of them were easterners is discussion for another day.

As to how many of the easterners have been jailed? You know the saying, the wheels of justice grinds slowly but surely. I just hope that when they are jailed you won't be the first to cry witch-hunt.

And to the recession you mentioned, I guess we'll have to keep reminding you guys that your hero was the one that put us in this mess. You really shouldn't be gloating when someone else is trying to clean up your mess should you?

The players are still on the field in first half you're wondering why they haven't won the match yet ?

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