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Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Phranex(m): 1:41pm On Oct 21, 2016
I argued that the rise in unemployment is largely due to the unemployed individual rather than the govt or system.. As usual, i got a lot of opposite response.


I argued that the average Nigerian student/Graduate is naturally lazy and unenterprising. Many rebuffed this claim.


Heres something that prompted me to bring back the argument.


I just got off a call with an undergraduate. I brought him an opportunity that would pay him 150k yearly for the next five years and all needed to do was to send his original waec certificate to the body that would pay him... He didnt oblige.


heres his excuse...


MY SECONDARY SCHOOL IS FAR.


and then i asked him to be sure..
"are you saying u want to forfeit this opportunity because your sec school is far?"


he said "the school is in ogun state (he is in imo)"..


i just said thank you (as usual) and hung up..


The problem actually is that when he graduates and theres no job, he might travel to sambisa forest for just an interview(not even the job itself).
yet, his type would whine about not having capital to start a business.

150K (times 5 years) was standing in front of him.. yet his excuse was imo to ogun state (distance).....
#my2cents

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Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Nobody: 1:56pm On Oct 21, 2016
The fact that you base your hypothesis on a general view can't seem to amaze me. Only a myopic fellow will stand tall with his chest high and say Nigerian graduates are unemployable. The fact that you encounter one nunentity doesn't make everyone less useful.
Before I pass judgement on people, I always put myself in their shoe. You wouldn't know if the boy in question have no means of livelihood not to talk of going on the said journey. Now to issue proper.
You can't just conclude that graduates are to blame for being unemployed. Yes in this contemporary Society, there are no guarantee of job placement and as such your skills goes along way to earn you a living. But does that completely exempt government of their responsibilities? I guess NO. Research have shown that 99% of what ever skill a graduate might acquire to earn a living depends directly or indirectly on Electricity generation and policy making. So if one should go by your bizarre assumption graduates have no reason relying on government even when it comes to dividends of democracy and fundamental rights.
Anyway, we all have our problems. You wouldn't know what others are going through til you get close to them.

You don't generalize on sensitive issue like this. It relative.

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Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Aremu01(m): 2:39pm On Oct 21, 2016
Spits on thread...

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Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Phranex(m): 2:56pm On Oct 21, 2016
TheSlyone2:
The fact that you base your hypothesis on a general view can't seem to amaze me. Only a myopic fellow will stand tall with his chest high and say Nigerian graduates are unemployable. The fact that you encounter one nunentity doesn't make everyone less useful.
Before I pass judgement on people, I always put myself in their shoe. You wouldn't know if the boy in question have no means of livelihood not to talk of going on the said journey. Now to issue proper.
You can't just conclude that graduates are to blame for being unemployed. Yes in this contemporary Society, there are no guarantee of job placement and as such your skills goes along way to earn you a living. But does that completely exempt government of their responsibilities? I guess NO. Research have shown that 99% of what ever skill a graduate might acquire to earn a living depends directly or indirectly on Electricity generation and policy making. So if one should go by your bizarre assumption graduates have no reason relying on government even when it comes to dividends of democracy and fundamental rights.
Anyway, we all have our problems. You wouldn't know what others are going through til you get close to them.

You don't generalize on sensitive issue like this. It relative.



Well articulated. But u missed the point. Do u know how. Many graduates had opportunities in front of them but they threw such. How much does an average corp member receive monthly. Yet he works so hard to get it. The opportunity before this boy was gold. He wouldnt have to work but he would receive that money every march.. He threw it for some nonsense reason. I got some capital to start a biz as a student. I don't rely on govt for a job.

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Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Phranex(m): 3:02pm On Oct 21, 2016
This dude isn't the only person who has given such ridiculous reason. I once went to university of Ibadan to teach dem how I made some cash in as a student.... They gave me several excuses. So I went to unn.. Those guys were given the money.. I would now screenshot their pay to the ui guys... Maybe it's a Yoruba thing
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Nobody: 3:35pm On Oct 21, 2016
Phranex:




Well articulated. But u missed the point. Do u know how. Many graduates had opportunities in front of them but they threw such. How much does an average corp member receive monthly. Yet he works so hard to get it. The opportunity before this boy was gold. He wouldnt have to work but he would receive that money every march.. He threw it for some nonsense reason. I got some capital to start a biz as a student. I don't rely on govt for a job.
Even with what you have wrote, I still wouldn't blame the boy one bit. If I were him, knowing how important the offer may turn out to be, I'll see to it that I ask you for extended favour. At least there's nothing wrong in you taking care of his transport if his excuse is genuine. That's why I so much love the white. They don't think black. Once they source out a talent, they won't allow such talent go to waste. They may do that knowing how much they ll benefits from you in the nearest future but the fact remains they have helped you.
Now you mention how you saved money to start a business. This issue is a relative one. You happens to have sources through which money flow into your hands that's why you were able to save. Have you ever encountered graduates who used their little savings from NYSC to help their parents. That's because all hands are not equal.

FYI I'm a graduate looking for job. If you so much claim of rendering a help to the boy. Prove it here and now.
2:1 Mechanical Engineering.

The whole world is watching ya

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Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Jokerman(m): 3:45pm On Oct 21, 2016
APC social media ricetivist agent... you have entered Job vacancies thread again... Do you want thunder to strike you! angry
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Ekehwinz: 4:10pm On Oct 21, 2016
bro am interested please. Even if you need my birth cert, i will provide.

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Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Phranex(m): 4:11pm On Oct 21, 2016
Jokerman:
APC social media ricetivist agent... you have entered Job vacancies thread again... Do you want thunder to strike you! angry

What are u talking about


You mistaken bro
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Phranex(m): 4:16pm On Oct 21, 2016
TheSlyone2:

Even with what you have wrote, I still wouldn't blame the boy one bit. If I were him, knowing how important the offer may turn out to be, I'll see to it that I ask you for extended favour. At least there's nothing wrong in you taking care of his transport if his excuse is genuine. That's why I so much love the white. They don't think black. Once they source out a talent, they won't allow such talent go to waste. They may do that knowing how much they ll benefits from you in the nearest future but the fact remains they have helped you.
Now you mention how you saved money to start a business. This issue is a relative one. You happens to have sources through which money flow into your hands that's why you were able to save. Have you ever encountered graduates who used their little savings from NYSC to help their parents. That's because all hands are not equal.

FYI I'm a graduate looking for job. If you so much claim of rendering a help to the boy. Prove it here and now.
2:1 Mechanical Engineering.

The whole world is watching ya

I'm also young grad like you.. Broke too and I don't have a job but im not waiting for govt. But.. I Hope to build the next big thing very soon.. You might come in handy... I ll send you a pm..
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by smoothini07: 4:19pm On Oct 21, 2016
bros, contact me to send the waec cert. even if una need birth cert. too.... 08181363875.

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Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by emmykingsok(m): 4:45pm On Oct 21, 2016
Phranex:
I argued that the rise in unemployment is largely due to the unemployed individual rather than the govt or system.. As usual, i got a lot of opposite response.


I argued that the average Nigerian student/Graduate is naturally lazy and unenterprising. Many rebuffed this claim.


Heres something that prompted me to bring back the argument.


I just got off a call with an undergraduate. I brought him an opportunity that would pay him 150k yearly for the next five years and all needed to do was to send his original waec certificate to the body that would pay him... He didnt oblige.


heres his excuse...


MY SECONDARY SCHOOL IS FAR.


and then i asked him to be sure..
"are you saying u want to forfeit this opportunity because your sec school is far?"


he said "the school is in ogun state (he is in imo)"..


i just said thank you (as usual) and hung up..


The problem actually is that when he graduates and theres no job, he might travel to sambisa forest for just an interview(not even the job itself).
yet, his type would whine about not having capital to start a business.

150K (times 5 years) was standing in front of him.. yet his excuse was imo to ogun state (distance).....
#my2cents

Well, I think it's what I have noticed recently, I'm currently working with a coy here in Lagos and we need students from higher institutions to run part-time errands that involve going to fill and submit some forms to their school's administrator office after which they'll be paid but to my greatest surprise some students I contacted in one of the Polytechnic in southwestern part of the country were lackadaisical about it even when I told them they'll be paid something reasonable, I was mad because I knew that it's an opportunity for them to earn something while doing little and I was saying to myself how I wish I got this kind of thing when I was in school. basically it's not everybody sha, at times the kind of guy you encountered might be an ajobo or overfed guy

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Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Doyin400l(m): 4:51pm On Oct 21, 2016
Jokerman:
APC social media ricetivist agent... you have entered Job vacancies thread again... Do you want thunder to strike you! angry
@op, you are not God oo..take ur EPP elsewhere, we Nigerian Graduate,Undergraduates,students do not and I repeat don't need ur stinky EPP.
Who you EPP self!?
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Nobody: 5:11pm On Oct 21, 2016
Phranex:
I argued that the rise in unemployment is largely due to the unemployed individual rather than the govt or system.. As usual, i got a lot of opposite response.


I argued that the average Nigerian student/Graduate is naturally lazy and unenterprising. Many rebuffed this claim.


Heres something that prompted me to bring back the argument.


I just got off a call with an undergraduate. I brought him an opportunity that would pay him 150k yearly for the next five years and all needed to do was to send his original waec certificate to the body that would pay him... He didnt oblige.


heres his excuse...


MY SECONDARY SCHOOL IS FAR.


and then i asked him to be sure..
"are you saying u want to forfeit this opportunity because your sec school is far?"


he said "the school is in ogun state (he is in imo)"..


i just said thank you (as usual) and hung up..


The problem actually is that when he graduates and theres no job, he might travel to sambisa forest for just an interview(not even the job itself).
yet, his type would whine about not having capital to start a business.

150K (times 5 years) was standing in front of him.. yet his excuse was imo to ogun state (distance).....
#my2cents
Pls can I send my waec result
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Phranex(m): 5:35pm On Oct 21, 2016
Why i need the guy to send his certificate was because he had already applied to the organisation through me.. and they sent a letter that he should upload his cert.......


tholarrr:
Pls can I send my waec result
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Phranex(m): 5:42pm On Oct 21, 2016
Doyin400l:

@op, you are not God oo..take ur EPP elsewhere, we Nigerian Graduate,Undergraduates,students do not and I repeat don't need ur stinky EPP.
Who you EPP self!?


Dont be so mad my brother... I understand the country is hard. i also understand your grievances. The Lord will do it for you. But nver wait on the government. Whenever you see an opportunity, jump at it.... If i had someone who could assist me to get 150k every march for 5 years without working as a student, i would have kissed his feet.


Corp members work heaven and earth over 18k.. an undergraduate has an opportunity to free funds/capital (if he culd save) to set up a biz... His challenge was the distance..


I ould prsonally keep a watch on that dude.. I like to see him succeed in life but if he doesnt get a job.. His mind would remind him of all the opportunities that he threww to the wind
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Mobi47(m): 5:52pm On Oct 21, 2016
What is this nonsense. no matter d reason u give here, it can never be justifiable. how can graduates b d cause of unemployment in Nigeria. no let me insult u o....the government needs to do more, and our elites needs to put their brains to work then then the working class needs to create other means of livelihood that can create job opportunities. that guy didn't accept ur offer bcus he had his reasons so let him b. that guy might even be richer than u in d future.
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Mobi47(m): 5:55pm On Oct 21, 2016
smoothini07:
bros, contact me to send the waec cert. even if una need birth cert. too.... 08181363875.
lols....una no go kill person for Nairaland.
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Phranex(m): 6:02pm On Oct 21, 2016
Mobi47:
What is this nonsense. no matter d reason u give here, it can never be justifiable. how can graduates b d cause of unemployment in Nigeria. no let me insult u o....the government needs to do more, and our elites needs to put their brains to work then then the working class needs to create other means of livelihood that can create job opportunities. that guy didn't accept ur offer bcus he had his reasons so let him b. that guy might even be richer than u in d future.

I pray he becomes successful. Richer than me... No no no... The dude might consider fifty million rich...
I don't...



The point is take hold of opportunities.. You don't know tomorrow...
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by eojepa: 6:21pm On Oct 21, 2016
Allow the young man be. Probably that's not what he wants for his life. Don't use one circumstance to conclude on every graduate. what is good for the goose might not be good for the gander. Others can even go to hell to make this opportunity works,talk less of wherever his secondary school is located.

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Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Mobi47(m): 6:23pm On Oct 21, 2016
Phranex:


I pray he becomes successful. Richer than me... No no no... The dude might consider fifty million rich...
I don't...



The point is take hold of opportunities.. You don't know tomorrow...
"take hold of opportunities... I like that....rephrase ur topic to this effect ...instead of justifying d failures of our government, d elites nd also d lack of business entrepreneural mindset of the working class nd seemingly rich persons..... few months back, after thinking abt d unemployment issue in Nigeria and Africa, I came up with this philosophy... "If 50% of the rich and high income earners starts thinking of creating employment through alternative finance, then there wont b unemployment".
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Nobody: 7:04pm On Oct 21, 2016
Phranex:
Why i need the guy to send his certificate was because he had already applied to the organisation through me.. and they sent a letter that he should upload his cert.......


Please incase u v another opening,pls help me. thanks
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Phranex(m): 7:09pm On Oct 21, 2016
tholarrr:
Please incase u v another opening,pls help me. thanks

Only if you are a student by this time next year
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Ranchhoddas: 7:22pm On Oct 21, 2016
TheSlyone2:
The fact that you base your hypothesis on a general view can't seem to amaze me. Only a myopic fellow will stand tall with his chest high and say Nigerian graduates are unemployable. The fact that you encounter one nunentity doesn't make everyone less useful.
Before I pass judgement on people, I always put myself in their shoe. You wouldn't know if the boy in question have no means of livelihood not to talk of going on the said journey. Now to issue proper.
You can't just conclude that graduates are to blame for being unemployed. Yes in this contemporary Society, there are no guarantee of job placement and as such your skills goes along way to earn you a living. But does that completely exempt government of their responsibilities? I guess NO. Research have shown that 99% of what ever skill a graduate might acquire to earn a living depends directly or indirectly on Electricity generation and policy making. So if one should go by your bizarre assumption graduates have no reason relying on government even when it comes to dividends of democracy and fundamental rights.
Anyway, we all have our problems. You wouldn't know what others are going through til you get close to them.

You don't generalize on sensitive issue like this. It's relative.
Well said. They can never understand.
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Nobody: 7:32pm On Oct 21, 2016
Who else thinks the OP has been hanging around a lot of douchebags cheesy cheesy
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by adakole4(m): 8:25pm On Oct 21, 2016
Phranex:
I argued that the rise in unemployment is largely due to the unemployed individual rather than the govt or system.. As usual, i got a lot of opposite response.


I argued that the average Nigerian student/Graduate is naturally lazy and unenterprising. Many rebuffed this claim.


Heres something that prompted me to bring back the argument.


I just got off a call with an undergraduate. I brought him an opportunity that would pay him 150k yearly for the next five years and all needed to do was to send his original waec certificate to the body that would pay him... He didnt oblige.


heres his excuse...


MY SECONDARY SCHOOL IS FAR.


and then i asked him to be sure..
"are you saying u want to forfeit this opportunity because your sec school is far?"


he said "the school is in ogun state (he is in imo)"..


i just said thank you (as usual) and hung up..


The problem actually is that when he graduates and theres no job, he might travel to sambisa forest for just an interview(not even the job itself).
yet, his type would whine about not having capital to start a business.

150K (times 5 years) was standing in front of him.. yet his excuse was imo to ogun state (distance).....
#my2cents
It upsets me when someone make such generalisation or conclusion without proper research. When the system is badly designed, you and I know and you are here telling us that Nigeria graduates are responsible for them being unemployed. To confuse it, You should have said Nigeria graduates are responsible for the failure of things in Nigeria...Somebody just reminded you of the nature POWER in this country, which affects virtually any operation... Pls
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by misterkay(m): 2:45am On Oct 22, 2016
So if he goes to Ogun to get the certificates, he would already be assured of a job upon graduation?
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Nobody: 6:55am On Oct 22, 2016
Phranex:


Only if you are a student by this time next year
Lol I'm not even a student presently ,pls in case u have any opening for graduate I will be glad,
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by supaphlymee(m): 9:07am On Oct 22, 2016
150k yearly...dat is 12.5k monthly and you want him to migrate from imo state to ogun state,start a new life on that....bro no blame the guy
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by Phranex(m): 9:39am On Oct 22, 2016
supaphlymee:
150k yearly...dat is 12.5k monthly and you want him to migrate from imo state to ogun state,start a new life on that....bro no blame the guy

You guys are getting it wrong.. That division u did is uncalled for


Its not a job. Its a scholarship award for undergraduate. they pay every january/febraury (150k).


He would receive it regadless of where he resides but to get it he had to send his original waec cert to the scholaship body... his excuse to get 150k yearly (to be paid in full in january) was that his sec school is far... if he was a rich kid, he would not have applied for it in the first place.
Re: Blame Graduates For Unemployment Not The Government by supaphlymee(m): 10:45am On Oct 22, 2016
Phranex:


You guys are getting it wrong.. That division u did is uncalled for


Its not a job. Its a scholarship award for undergraduate. they pay every january/febraury (150k).


He would receive it regadless of where he resides but to get it he had to send his original waec cert to the scholaship body... his excuse to get 150k yearly (to be paid in full in january) was that his sec school is far... if he was a rich kid, he would not have applied for it in the first place.
Ok, just try and talk some sense into him

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