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Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by wadetaw202: 9:39am On Oct 22, 2016 |
ganye1: ...but decency does not demand that amechi and buhari should step aside until the accusations against them by the judges are cleared, abi? Why are you such a hypocrite? 1 Like |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by sleekymag(m): 9:40am On Oct 22, 2016 |
Martins301: So the executive should arm twist the judiciary by telling them how to punish its members abi? The NJC is independent, and its recommendations and actions is what should be in the overall interest of Nigeria. You can't remove a speck in your neighbor's eyes without removing the log in your own eyes first. The executive should deal with its own members accused of corruption one way or the other. Names have been paraded in recent months without anyone being suspended, e.g. Amaechi, Buratai, Dambazzau, Kyari, Mamnan Daura even EFCC was reported to have complained about DSS earlier in the year, yet no action. These are the few we even know about. Many more acts of corruption are certainly taking place as we speak in the executive, as Osinbajo said every govt institution is corrupt. It's sad, but it is what it is. 2 Likes |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by Omeokachie: 9:41am On Oct 22, 2016 |
sabdaz: No, we dont need dictatorship. That is not the way to build a decent and just society. 1 Like |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by freeze001(f): 9:42am On Oct 22, 2016 |
sabdaz: When he came as a dictator exactly how much did he achieve and what was the status of the economy under his watch? Is it the deliberate refusal to accept an acquittal granted even by the kangaroo tribunal he set up, still ordering a retrial rejecting yet another acquittal and still imprisoning the one victim? Or throwing a figure head vice president of a government he overthrew into maximum prison while leaving the president who is the actual power and influence in the comfort of his home in the name of 'house arrest'? Or is it formulating laws and trying 'offenders' retrospectively? Are these the kind of things u are supporting his brand of dictatorship for? Think well o! Cos in that time military officers will round up anyone they please and u might be one probably picked up for just being at a place or looking like someone...there will be no 'democratic rule of law' to quote and enforce, human rights long dead! 2 Likes |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by dadexcel: 9:46am On Oct 22, 2016 |
kahal29:........ NJC did not just constitute itself as an arm of government, it has always been one.... They are the judiciary remember?.... Guess you do 1 Like |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by Miles300: 9:48am On Oct 22, 2016 |
So much for the nation , economy down , executive and judiciary disorganised , legislatures padding since 1800, corruption allegations, arrests here and there and no single conviction ..who says this govt is stable and doing well ? Absolutely this is a failed govt ..even a govt that is doing cleansing can't be as unstable as this govt .. 1 Like |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by ehissi(m): 9:54am On Oct 22, 2016 |
This country is filled with hypocrites. Let's us look at this matter Wholistically. Justice Umar of the Code of Conduct Tribunal has been petitioned but DSS and EFCC refused to do anything but the Presidency gave permission to DSS to abuse judges in such a fashion. This can only be because the Code of Conduct Tribunal as an administrative court is not under the judiciary but the executive and is answerable to the executive only via office of Secretay General of the Federation. Even Justice Ademola that has no petition against him by DSS, disqualified himself from sitting over DSS cases because of the way he was arrested. Justice Umar who allegedly had a case withy EFCC is still sitting in court over a matter prosecuted by EFCC and nobody is talking about that. When will Some Nigerians ever learn. Na waoooh!! Tufiakwa for zombies them. NBA has been compromised and fully padded by the executive. Long live the NJC and may God make their hand strong. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by jblackbell(m): 9:55am On Oct 22, 2016 |
ganye1:If we should go by what you are saying Amaechi should not even be a minister. Saraki never did step down when he was facing trial under CCT, Amaechi has not been asked to step down, then why should the judges own be different. 1 Like |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by falxx: 9:58am On Oct 22, 2016 |
AirFireEarthH20:Thanks. Am wondering why majority of Nigerian have suddenly become blind even when every thing about government is forcing backward to about 15 years and every thing that has grown abi develeped will fall back. The worst is the hate, distrust, tribal war etc. that has been introduced and increased by this Buhari's government is not seen. In organised and well structured societies, every Nigerians would have asked these judges to step down believing that the tovernment is place is trustworth, but I will be the last person to support this move because this is the worst of governments that heavily depend on lies and propaganda. If those judges make that mistake of stepping aside, they will never believe what Buhari will do to them. When the DSS invaded their residence and dropped even the cheapest of corrency, the Rupe, Indian currency that is worst than the toilet paper, all in an effort to support their lies should not be givening that opportunity. If Buhari DSS has confined the so call dropped monies to Dallars, Pounds and Naira alone, it would have been looked at and acceptable to 25% true, instead, because of the devilish and wicked motive, they include the most valueless currency like Rupe. NJC should desregard the so called NBA and ask the Judges not to step aside. That will be suicidal. Nonsense government. 1 Like |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by Apollux(m): 9:58am On Oct 22, 2016 |
freeze001:I agree with u. And furthermore, it's important for NJC to take that stand on this in other to clearly show their total autonomy from the executive arm of government. This is how democracy works. The rule of law must be followed. I remember way back in school, the reason for the existence of the rule of law is to curb arbitrary rule. Buhari is going to fail woefully in his corruption fight if he continues this way. Already he has shown him self that his fight against corruption is vindicative and selective. Already in 2 occasions, state governors have had to step in to prevent what is perceived as unlawful arrest. In the case of FFK' s wife it was so glaring. They still went ahead to rearrest him again. hmmmmm someone need to talk to d president and talk to him fast. Nigeria is slowly degenerating. U can't undermine d other arms of government and think u can successfully rule in a democracy. U can't trample on d same constitution dat put u in power and think u will hold on to it. The truth is BUHARI CAN'T SUCCESSFULLY FIGHT CORRUPTION WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF THE JUDICIARY. that is if he fight against corruption is sincre 1 Like |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by tinsel: 10:06am On Oct 22, 2016 |
kahal29:Then we will know it is the intention of Buhari all this while to stop the new cjn because he is from the south. Maybe it is what you also want? 1 Like |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by Apollux(m): 10:11am On Oct 22, 2016 |
kcnwaigbo:Lol Like a popular saying "The way to Hell is paved with good intentions " 2 Likes |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by Kiakia(m): 10:18am On Oct 22, 2016 |
ganye1:As a matter of fact, it is bizzare! NBA is right in this regard. Those Judges should do the honourable thing and step aside in the interim pending conclusion of the case against them. 1 Like |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by rasputinn(m): 10:21am On Oct 22, 2016 |
richidinho: Very true 2 Likes |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by rasputinn(m): 10:22am On Oct 22, 2016 |
AirFireEarthH20: Very true 2 Likes |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by Rapmoney(m): 10:24am On Oct 22, 2016 |
kahal29:3 things are involved here - It is either you didn't take Government in secondary school or you had a dumb Government teacher or still, you never opened your Government textbook!!! There are 3 arms of government as specified by the laws of the land. Even kids in Pry 2 know this. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by APCmyheart(m): 10:47am On Oct 22, 2016 |
I know they are so corrupt and will never do that or else can of worn will me open. |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by ganye1: 10:51am On Oct 22, 2016 |
NgcoboP:Which purging itself do you want it to do when it is doing exactly that. The fight against corruption is not going to be successful unless the corruption in the judiciary is dealt with. |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by ganye1: 10:53am On Oct 22, 2016 |
jblackbell:Their case is different because they are the ones who preside over cases. |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by dignity33: 10:59am On Oct 22, 2016 |
They want to bring the judges and two justice of supreme court down in other for Apc to have there way in controlling the third arms of Government after having succeeded to take over legislature. Shame to Apc and coward NBA 1 Like |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by ogene007: 11:02am On Oct 22, 2016 |
Charly68:Who will lead them to prison? Who will sit over the matter? Unfortunately for Buhari, we are not under a military regime where he would have used decrees to take away jurisdiction from the courts just like he did in 1984 using decrees 2, 4 etc. Under the 1999 constitution, the courts have the final say on who is guilty or not guilty. Buhari and his uneducated supporters will have to live with it. 1 Like |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by ogene007: 11:17am On Oct 22, 2016 |
ganye1:Please stop all this noise making because we all know that Buhari is not interested in fighting any corruption. He is simply involved in a chain of illegal acts just to destroy the opposition against 2019. Media trial is not what fight against corruption is. Buhari has not been able to secure one single conviction despite all the noise being made. The judiciary is no less corrupt than the executive and legislative arm of government. If Buhari and the APC truly want to fight corruption, they should constructively engage the NA to bring about a change in our laws. We would need to amend the evidence act such as the burden of proof will now rest on the accused. We would also need to have a rigid asset forfeiture law which allows the government to seize whatever asset traced to any individual is and when that individual is unable to proof that such an asset was legitimately acquired. If Buhari was to pursue such laws, who do you think the biggest victims would be? Can the likes of Buhari, Tinubu, Fashola, Amaechi, Obasanjo, IBB, Abdusalam, Buratai, Dambazau etc truly prove that 80% of what they have today were legitimate earnings? So, stop coming here to exhibit self righteous hypocrisy because we all know that Buhari is not interested in fighting corruption. He is only trying to destroy the opposition against 2019 elections and he will surely fail by the special grace of God. 3 Likes |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by NairaMaster1(m): 11:20am On Oct 22, 2016 |
Who's the NBA president? Buhari brother. Thank God the legislature is not a rubber stamp. NBA kill the judiciary e no concern me. Buhari has certificate issue he is still forming holy holy. A beg pack well 1 Like |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by sageer1706(m): 11:20am On Oct 22, 2016 |
Do u av to put politics in everything? Or u did not read through the write up, judiciary is and still remain an independent body. Pls do not allow sentiment and hatred to turn u into something else 2 Likes |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by Dinobi77: 11:22am On Oct 22, 2016 |
How can a sane mind say these judges to step down till their cases ar dispensed? I just cant stop laughing. If its in a sane clime where things re done properly, i wud v agreed but not in Naija. Unlike what happened in Ghana where d judges were caught red-handed in d act of bribery n with enough evidence they were removed frm d bench. But can that b saif of d situation in Nigeria? No. If these judges are asked to step aside, for how long, 1,2,5 or ten yrs before their cases re dispensed knowin d snail like nature of our court cases? 2 Likes |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by NairaMaster1(m): 11:25am On Oct 22, 2016 |
Dinobi77: Ask the Northern Bar Association president 1 Like |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by ganye1: 11:36am On Oct 22, 2016 |
ogene007:How can the government secure conviction when the judiciary is full of corrupt judges? The fight against corruption by the present government is not perfect but surely it is a right step in the right direction. |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by JUHABACH: 11:48am On Oct 22, 2016 |
kahal29: bruh pls stop confusing yourself. the NJC is the central body representing the collective power and independence of the judiciary. it is by all rights, an arm of govt given its duties. 2 Likes |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by ogene007: 11:56am On Oct 22, 2016 |
ganye1:How can a corrupt executive claim to be interested in fighting corruption in the judiciary. Its like asking a group of armed robbers to protect a residential estate against another group of robbers. The executive must first cleanse itself by sacking all the corrupt elements within it. At least, they don't need the NA and Judiciary to effect this sack. After that is done, they would need to appoint only people who have no corruption petition pending with EFCC, ICPC etc. Next, they will need to strike a deal with the NA to get the necessary anti corruption legislation passed. When that is done, it becomes an effort in futility for any judge to engage in bribery and corruption because such ill gotten assets would be difficult to hide. 2 Likes |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by JUHABACH: 12:02pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
Charly68: 1) there is NO ACTUAL proof that any huge sum of money was actually found. its all just allegations at this point though by the looks of things, it seems you have already passed judgement on the accused withot based solely on what amounts to the equivalent of mere gossip. 2) even if cash was found in their home, it really isnt a crimeto keep money in ones own home.the dss would have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the sum was acquired via illegal means which given the circumstsnces is next to impossible evrn if the defendant has access to an average lawyer. note that this isassuming the dss proves beyond reasonable doubt that the cash was found in the house ofthe accused persons.l 3) the dss's handling of the case has not only been extremely unprofessional and lacking the finese normally expected of such an agency and this will likely work against them once court proceedings formally begin. 4) lastly i will start to think about taking this so called war on corruption seriously once we get a detailed investigation intobuhari's election funds as well as several members of his cabinet. 3 Likes |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by Layksaide(m): 12:06pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
psucc: God will bless you abundantly for this your post. 1 Like |
Re: NJC Disagrees With NBA, Says Won’t Suspend Nor Ask Accused Judges To Step Down by kcnwaigbo: 12:13pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
ganye1: So a corrupt executive would be the one to do it? |
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