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Question For Atheists by Nobody: 9:37am On Oct 22, 2016 |
Let's assume for a second that God is a myth, and all of the prophets and pastors in the universe today, are " fake ". Now, the million dollar question is, from where do they get magical powers to predict the future, make the blind see, make the deaf hear, and make the lame walk? 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Question For Atheists by captainbangz: 9:45am On Oct 22, 2016 |
Maybe nature. I laf my ass out whenever some1 say im be atheist. |
Re: Question For Atheists by QuietHammer(m): 10:00am On Oct 22, 2016 |
I'm not cool with the label 'atheist ' though, permit me to give this a shot. Present us whith evidence that any man has ever made a lame walk, blind see and deaf hear. As for the ability to predict, I won't bother with that 1 Like |
Re: Question For Atheists by Nobody: 10:06am On Oct 22, 2016 |
Fx82ZAPLUS:They make vague predictions using well known data. *There will be a flood somewhere in nigeria(global warming duh) * nigeria will suffer for a long time (recessions don't go away in a day) * people will one day curse buhari if recession continues (SMH) * There will be great problems in nigeria (when has there never been) Some of these prophecies will come out wrong, but they will only be publicised by major media houses when they are right. the blind see, make the deaf hear, and make the lame walk?Sometimes it amazes me how people can be so gullible, ask yourselfwhy the pastors don't go to hospitals for these instantaneous healings, why they have never regrown a limb in front if you, why they don't heal famous people with visible health conditions, like the Paralympic team of nigeria. Don't be fools my people, it is all fake. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Question For Atheists by Nobody: 10:12am On Oct 22, 2016 |
I have a short answer for you. Look up youtube and go watch/download random videos of a mentalist called Keith Barry. You would know why pastors happens to predict the future or see the past. Now, As regard healing the blind, lame etc if it was true then all the blinds, lame, sick people on the street would have been healed starting from the government general hospitals not their churches. 4 Likes |
Re: Question For Atheists by Edenoscar(m): 10:14am On Oct 22, 2016 |
Pastors make thousands of random prediction i would be suprised if none came true, you only get to hear of that one which came true what about the hundreds of prophecy which never happened 3 Likes |
Re: Question For Atheists by Nobody: 11:33am On Oct 22, 2016 |
Lennycool:[b] Dumb contentions. Duh - Your gay tendencies are inhibiting you from reasoning logically. You claim they have never regrown a limb in front of people, false. Some certain people with hemihypertrophy, and hemiatrophy conditions, as in their arms were shorter than the other has had their arms equalized on a Live servive by Prophet Bushiri, Visit YouTube. Also, men with abdominal obesity has had their big tummies flattened on a Live service. Again, go to YouTube. And the Pastors/ Prophets does visit hospitals, son . "Leader and Founder of Enlightened Christian Gathering, Prophet Shepherd Bushiri yesterday got the whole patients and the entire working staff of Greytown hospital in KwaZulu-Natal astonished as he reportedly resurrected 12 dead peeople at the hospital. Speaking to the Medical Officer in charge of Greytown hospital in KwaZulu-Natal, to get a confirmation that indeed these 12 people were dead he said “They were even preparing their bodies for the morgue and the man of God stormed the hospital to perform such a wonderful miracles’’ Also watch extraordinary miracles performed by Prophet Shepherd Bushiri during 2015-2016 crossover night - Live service https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsJhSAhQn90 Whether Bushiri is an authentic prophet, or a fake prophet is of no importance here. The million dollar question is where does he get the power to perfom such miracles during LIVE services, right in front of the world?[/b] 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Question For Atheists by Seun(m): 12:19pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
Fx82ZAPLUS:Prophets and pastors don't have any supernatural powers. You may find this difficult to believe, but it's all a bunch of tricks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqPc9btW1rM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-NwKD9laZw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7BQKu0YP8Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBpiV72pLAo 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Question For Atheists by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:28pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
Seun: Logical fallacy faulty generalization - because you sourced out instances where prophets have been exposed as fake does not mean all pastors and prophets are fake . Even the bible prognosticated the proliferation of false prophets during the end times . No point made bro , again . 1 Like |
Re: Question For Atheists by frank317: 12:41pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Not all so called miracles have been investigated, but all miracles that have been investigated have been found out to be dubious... Unfortunately... U are not good at making use of ur brain. 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Question For Atheists by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:43pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
frank317: Who investigated all those miracles to prove they are false ? What kind of extremely daft claim is this ? |
Re: Question For Atheists by BodyKiss(m): 1:35pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
Fx82ZAPLUS: Damn, you so **** 1 Like |
Re: Question For Atheists by Nobody: 1:50pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
Fx82ZAPLUS:And where is the evidence besides websites and videos, why is regrowing of a limb so impossible for God. I've already said this before why is it that miracles are never conducted under scientific observations, why is there always no proof besides videos. Videos are unreliable, Avatar is a movie, everything from aliens plants to alien humanoids, to an alien planet is displayed in that movie. Yet nothing is real. So to confirm that those miracles are indeed real we don't need videos we need scientists to confirm them, till then your miracles are fake. 1 Like |
Re: Question For Atheists by Seun(m): 2:15pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:I also included videos demonstrating exactly how the fake miracles are orchestrated, and it's clear that most miracle pastors use these tricks. frank317:Exactly. There have been so many faith healing investigations, and all of them have the same result: they found lots of tricks, but no healings: Critical studies are illuminating. Dr. William A. Nolen, in his book Healing: A Doctor in Search of a Miracle (1974), followed up on several reported cases of healing from a Kathryn Kuhlman service but found no miracles-only remissions, psychosomatic diseases, and other explanations, including the power of suggestion.http://www.csicop.org/si/show/benny_hinn_healer_or_hypnotist Documentaries: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlNTALOChRc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID6itEMHcCk 6 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: Question For Atheists by Nobody: 2:43pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
Seun:Even though I don't support theist and their presumptuous claims. Let's take a scientific route,we have various spatial dimensions,some definitely higher than the one we're currently experiencing, what if, what if all obscure and paranormal happenings occur at these dimensions. I believe the will to power as explained by Nietzsche, that man call faith contains latent power to achieve some powerful results. 1 Like |
Re: Question For Atheists by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:00pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
Seun: Exactly , what they are fake miracles . I remember when the testimony of a crippled Muslim - unable to walk from birth - who followed a Nairalander to a crusade ground and was then able to walk was shared to you , you didn't respond . I can post the testimony again for you to openly scrutinize it , maybe ask the Nairalander questions . Exactly. There have been so many faith healing investigations, and all of them have the same result: they found lots of tricks, but no healings: I've received instant healing before - I have my own personal experiences . By your logic , I am part of the whole chicanery intended to finagle money from the unsuspecting public . http://www.csicop.org/si/show/benny_hinn_healer_or_hypnotist Why should I take this site seriously - it is not credible and the details provided cannot be verified . So , sorry bro I'm being logical here 1 Like |
Re: Question For Atheists by Seun(m): 3:35pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: You mean the story below? MrPRevailer: 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Question For Atheists by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:54pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
Seun: Yeah . I'm not sure why you emboldened that text He also instructed you to carry any indisposed person or yourself if you have infirmities to be healed so your experience will serve as your evidence . So be logical or real and adhere to his instruction Lest I forget , in the Lord's chosen , the members also have the propensity to carry out miracles themselves . We pray for the sick , raise the dead etc . We also have a testimony magazine , you can get as many as possible , contact the testifiers and carry out investigations on their testimonies . 1 Like |
Re: Question For Atheists by egokudiowomoney: 4:17pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
Fx82ZAPLUS:prediction of the future is what anybody can do,even animals. This remind me of the Octopus that was used to predict the results of football matches. It made accurate predictions in the 2010 World Cup.about healing,it seems the Op is JJC for Nigeria |
Re: Question For Atheists by Seun(m): 4:38pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:That's the giveaway. We will never be able to verify the "miracle", of course, because the recipient has conveniently disappeared. From what we know, I bet the guy could walk before the crusade. He was either only partially crippled, or just pretending to be crippled. Like these crooks. 9 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Question For Atheists by Snyman(m): 4:43pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
egokudiowomoney:The Op is South African. |
Re: Question For Atheists by Seun(m): 4:43pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
egokudiowomoney:Yes. They make educated guesses about disasters that could happen and then ask us to pray against their guesses. If they turn out to be right, they are perceived as great prophets. If they are wrong, it's because the prayers worked. But we'll only remember the ones that were right. 12 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: Question For Atheists by hahn(m): 4:50pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
Seun: Who knows maybe kingebukasblog is one of those guys in the "syndicate" considering his passion for supporting obvious lies 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Question For Atheists by hopefulLandlord: 4:56pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
hahn: reminds me of Joagbaje very cool thread that deserves looking at that was a fiasco 10 years on, the Christ Embassy members are still foaming in the mouth about it 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Question For Atheists by Ultimatesammie(m): 4:58pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
Seun:Because some are fake doesn't mean all are fake its just like saying all Nigerians are fraudsters because one Nigerian duped someone somewhere.Its quite funny how u guys think Christians all over the world are gullible yet u guys are the wise ones. |
Re: Question For Atheists by stainlex(m): 5:00pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
Op, your Bushiri guy should start with Pistorious. I will worship him over YHWH if he can make Pistorious grow a limb! Or how about bringing back the dead gf? Raising the dead isn't that difficult, is it? |
Re: Question For Atheists by hahn(m): 5:06pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Don't mind those people. Even Oyaks goes for medical checkup at the best hospital in the world. I respect his business sense sha. Everything goes to him. Even from cell meetings. All "offerings" go directly into their bank. Imagine a church having it's own bank and they will argue it is not a business 3 Likes |
Re: Question For Atheists by Snyman(m): 5:11pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
Seun:Fair point. However, If you've watched any of Prophet Bushiri's Live services before, you'll realize he calls out people by names, tells them where they hail from, their backgrounds, the color of their room walls, their occupation, their bank account number/ phone numbers, etc. My question is, from where does he get the powers to prophesy such things? Does he hire decoys to hoodwink the general public into a misguided belief that he's the greatest Prophet to ever grace the Earth? |
Re: Question For Atheists by kevoh(m): 5:12pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:Lol...That thread is epic! One of my favourites here! |
Re: Question For Atheists by hahn(m): 5:16pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
kevoh: I swear. The uppercut ehn, no be here. Did joagbaje ever pay up that N500,000? 1 Like |
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