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Re: Ghana's Oldest Storey Building Over Three Centuries Older Than That Of Nigeria by saintdennis(m): 9:12am On Oct 25, 2016
dajan03:
there was civilization in Nigeria and even Ghana before European Came. European only brought western civilization and not civilization in total
Don't mind the mumu... seriously I ask myself whether or not this present generation of africans from 18th c- 21st cent. Aren't dumber than our conquered forefathers.

Upon all the internet and history books they still think our forefathers were soo primitive.

Same guns they traded resources with the Europeans for is same guns European, african, Asian. Etc are trading resources for today.

Serzly the average black man is gullible

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Re: Ghana's Oldest Storey Building Over Three Centuries Older Than That Of Nigeria by AliJohn(m): 9:20am On Oct 25, 2016
YorubaStinks:
That building is the only reason why i don't use the "N" word (Nigga)

Imagine what my ancestors went through

They were shackled with a heavy chain, dumped in an overcrowded ship, stayed for about 8 months at sea, without food and water, they shiit where they were sitting, they didn't bath, they didn't brush their teeth, some died on the voyage and they were taken to America to do a hard labour and at the end of the day, those evil white people will call them "Niggers"

And some Foolish kids who can't stay without their phones or Internet for 3 hours, kids who doesn't know how it feels like to sit on one spot shackled with chain for 9 months will have the effrontery to use that word

If i ever hear someone around me use that word, I'm done being your friend or talking to you
ma niqqa ...hwfa nah

Re: Ghana's Oldest Storey Building Over Three Centuries Older Than That Of Nigeria by sashishalom(f): 10:37am On Oct 25, 2016
YorubaStinks:
That building is the only reason why i don't use the "N" word (Nigga)

Imagine what my ancestors went through

They were shackled with a heavy chain, dumped in an overcrowded ship, stayed for about 8 months at sea, without food and water, they shiit where they were sitting, they didn't bath, they didn't brush their teeth, some died on the voyage and they were taken to America to do a hard labour and at the end of the day, those evil white people will call them "Niggers"

And some Foolish kids who can't stay without their phones or Internet for 3 hours, kids who doesn't know how it feels like to sit on one spot shackled with chain for 9 months will have the effrontery to use that word

If i ever hear someone around me use that word, I'm done being your friend or talking to you


That was slave trade at its peak...we sold ourselves to them..brothers sold brothers, men sold children,friends sold friends...why wont they use the word "Niggers"...
Re: Ghana's Oldest Storey Building Over Three Centuries Older Than That Of Nigeria by DAVECENA(m): 11:01am On Oct 25, 2016
EazyMoh:

So you call slave acquisition outpost civilization? Mind you around that time we had schools, courts and police in Northern Nigeria.

Northern Nigeria?Yet we say the north is backward

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Re: Ghana's Oldest Storey Building Over Three Centuries Older Than That Of Nigeria by EazyMoh(m): 11:39am On Oct 25, 2016
DAVECENA:

Northern Nigeria?Yet we say the north is backward
Yeah, because you don't know history.
Re: Ghana's Oldest Storey Building Over Three Centuries Older Than That Of Nigeria by DAVECENA(m): 12:37pm On Oct 25, 2016
EazyMoh:
Yeah, because you don't know history.
Funny
Re: Ghana's Oldest Storey Building Over Three Centuries Older Than That Of Nigeria by peace4marvic(f): 1:42pm On Oct 25, 2016
wow smiley
Re: Ghana's Oldest Storey Building Over Three Centuries Older Than That Of Nigeria by Codes151(m): 1:53pm On Oct 25, 2016
myners007:
Does this mean that Ghana is far more advanced than Nigeria?
if they had our size n resources they would hv been no1
Re: Ghana's Oldest Storey Building Over Three Centuries Older Than That Of Nigeria by electrokcoi(m): 2:42pm On Oct 25, 2016
myners007:
Does this mean that Ghana is far more advanced than Nigeria?
u don see am naa
Re: Ghana's Oldest Storey Building Over Three Centuries Older Than That Of Nigeria by laudate: 12:47am On Oct 30, 2016
greenpasture:

One was built by slave owner's, the other by free men. One was built to house as many slaves as possible, the other a missionary residence. One was built in portuguese "Baroque" style the other in minimalisr/ spartan British style. Different times, different builders, different objectives - no comparison.

See how well Ghana has preserved its historical buildings and monuments. Go to Kenya and you will see ancient buildings still standing strong and looking great. They believe in preserving legacies, instead of tearing it down. Unlike those entrusted with such responsibility in the Nigerian government.

In Nigeria, we destroy historical buildings, loot artifacts and demolish ancient landmarks because we lack a sense of history. If a man does not know where he came from, he may never find the route to where he is going... cry

J.K. Randle cries out over demolition of hall, swimming pool | Published on September 26, 2016 by |

Elder statesman and politician, Bashorun J.K. Randle, has cried out over the demolition of three historical sites in Lagos bearing the Randle family name.

The demolished sites consisted of the Chief J.K. Randle Memorial Hall, Dr. J.K. Randle Swimming Pool and Dr J.K. Randle Love Garden.
He accused the Lagos State Government of plotting to wipe out the family’s name through the demolition of its property.

PUNCH Metro reports that the state physical planning ministry demolished some property allegedly belonging to the Randle family in the Onikan area of the state on Saturday during the environmental sanitation exercise. Bashorun Randle, who spoke with PUNCH Metro on the telephone on Sunday, said he was called on the telephone by the security man who had been guarding the place for over 30 years, adding that by the time he got there, the property had been demolished.

He said the state government had no legal rights to the property.

“That place is our history ground. It represents the name of our family. Destroying property in the place is like destroying our heritage and the glorious contributions of our ancestors.

“Even if the state government wanted to do such a thing, the members of the family should have been informed. The guard, who had been living in the place for the past 30 years with his family members, was thrown out into the cold night; they are homeless now. The sad thing is that we were not notified about the demolition,” he stated.

Bashorun Randle explained that the hall, which belonged to the British Crown, was named after his father, Chief J.K. Randle, for his achievements, adding that the place was passed on to the Federal Government after independence.

He said his grandfather, Dr J.K. Randle, constructed the swimming pool and the love garden with his money, but handed them over to the Lagos City Council in 1928 to manage.

“My grandfather, Dr J.K. Randle, worked with the colonial government and due to the discrimination between blacks and whites, he resigned and became a pioneer medical doctor in Nigeria. He was successful and in 1908, he established the first political party, the People’s Union.

“In 1920, while in his house on 31 Marina, he saw the way people were taking canoe across long distances, which was their only means of transportation. When there were major boat accidents, a lot of people died.

“So, he felt if those people could learn how to swim, more of them would survive any boat mishap. With his personal money, he built the swimming pool and handed it over to the council to run in 1928. He also left money for the maintenance of the place in his will. Most of the people in our generation learnt to swim in the J.K. Randle swimming pool.


“The same goes for the love garden, which was to bridge the gap between the rich and the poor in the society and make life fun for everyone in Lagos. He also handed this over to the council for maintenance. Unfortunately, the place was left to deteriorate,” he said.

He said the family had approached the state government to renovate the site, adding that the government ignored the family.

He lamented that the government, without seeking the approval of the Randle family, gave out part of the love garden.

Bashorun Randle, who said the family had made several contributions to the growth and development of the state, wondered why the contributions had not been recognised.

“And now, they have demolished the legacies of our ancestors, who wanted the best for Lagos; it is an abomination. If you have a master plan you are trying to follow, you should use your own property and not somebody else’s property. This is not the change we voted for,” he added.

He said the family had sought an audience with the state Governor, Akinwunmi Ambode, adding that the family was told that the governor had travelled.

The Lagos State government is yet to comment on the claim by Basorun Randle or state its reason for demolishing the historical sites.http://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2016/09/26/j-k-randle-cries-out-over-demolition-of-hall-swimming-pool/
Re: Ghana's Oldest Storey Building Over Three Centuries Older Than That Of Nigeria by laudate: 1:00am On Oct 30, 2016
WATCH How A National Monument – Ilojo Bar – In Lagos Was Demolished by “A Developer”

The Ilojo Bar (also called the “Olaiya House” or “Casa do Fernandez”), is a Brazilian-styled historic building located near Tinubu Square in Lagos Island, Lagos State, Nigeria was built in 1855 and bought by the late Alfred Omolona Olaiya in 1933.

It was built by Africans who regained their freedom from their “Portuguese masters” in Brazil. Its historical, social and architectural values have been well acclaimed, thus, prompting the Federal Government to give it special protection status as a National Monument through Gazette 25 Vol. 43 of April 5, 1956.

It was pulled down unexpectedly on September 11, 2016 by a “developer”.

According to The Nation:

The family’s lawyer, Olanrewaju Falola, in a statement said the building developed noticeable cracks on the walls, with its roof falling off.

He said the family wrote several letters to the commission, whose duty it is to maintain and preserve artifacts, notifying it of the state of the building, but it was not repaired.

The family said it also sought the commission’s approval to renovate the building to forestall any calamity, but got no permission.

According to Falola, the Lagos State government through its regulatory agencies issued contravention notices on the property, which he said was also brought to commission’s attention, yet it allegedly failed to act.

An integrity test, he said, revealed that the building was no longer safe for human habitation.

“Thereafter, the Lagos State Building Control Agency (LASBCA) ordered the family to demolish the distressed Ilojo Bar and further warned that failure to demolish same would amount to negligence on the part of the family and the property will be forfeited to the state government,” the lawyer said.

The family, he said, was given a demolition approval, following which it asked LASBCA to bring down the distressed building.

“We hereby state that the demolition of Ilojo Bar was done with the express order, instruction and approval of the Lagos State Government in the exercise and performance of its statutory duties and for the protection of lives and property,” Falola said.

The family wondered why the commission allegedly neglected the edifice for such a considerable length of time that it constituted a threat to lives and property.

“Why would the commission have neglected the so called monument to the extent that it became not only a public toilet but also a haven for criminals?,” the family asked.

Falola said the Olaiya Family had filed a suit against the commission at the Federal High Court, adding: “We urge the commission to present its case before the honourable court of law.”

Following the demolition, the NCMM has ordered that the monument be restored to its original form:

A statement by the Director General of NCMM, Yusuf Abdallah Usman, read:

The National Commission for Museums and Monuments has been maintaining, promoting and preserving the monument with members of the Olaiya Family, Lagos State government and other stake holders both local and international.

The threat to this historic building has been unfolding for sometime due to rising commercial interest in view of its strategic location. In October, last year, a member of the family wrote to the Commission saying that one of them was trying to engage a private developer to demolish the monument and clear the place for commercial development.

In response to this, a meeting was called with the family members led by Mr. Daniel Adewale Olaiya on January 19, 2016. The meeting discussed the issues around the monument, including its legal status, how the structure is put to use and the grievances of the family members. It was finally agreed that the statues quo of the monument should remain while they submit their complains through appropriate official channel but nothing was heard from them since then.

The recent threat to demolish the monument came on July 2, 2016, when a developer in collusion with some members of the family mobilised a bulldozer and some armed men with the intent to demolish the structure. The National Commission for Museums and Monuments got information about the move and quickly mobilised the Lagos museum staff and Lagos State government officials, who accosted the group and frustrated the attempt. In the meantime the attention of law enforcement agencies was drawn.

On July, this year, the developer again mobilised to demolish the building and this action was again rebuffed this time through the intervention of Hon. Agboola Dabiri Special Adviser to the Lagos State Governor on the Lagos Central Business District.Following his intervention,a stakeholders’ meeting was summoned at Lagos State secretariat Alausa, Ikeja where Hon.Abike Dabiri-Erewa did everything possible to avert the demolition of the monument.

Subsequently on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 a stakeholders’meeting was convened by the National Commission for Museums and Monuments at the National Museum, Lagos involving major stakeholders. This include members of the Olaiya family, management staff of National museum, Lagos, representatives of Lagos State Ministry of Tourism and that of the Brazillian Consulate, Benedita Gouveia Simonetti and Adeniran Arimoro.

During the meeting, the stakeholders agreed that steps must be taken to safeguard the monument from any threat, including involving law enforcement agencies and placement of notice on the site notifying the public about the status of the building. The meeting also agreed to revive an earlier plan to organise a gala night to raise funds for the rehabilitation of the monument.

To our greatest surprise however, on Saturday, August 27, 2016, the same developer again mobilised his bulldozer and actually damaged a portion of the building. A petition was written and submitted to the Area Commander of the Nigerian Police (Lion building), requesting the arrest and prosecution of the culprits but apparently the police did not find the matter serious enough to detain or prosecute them.

Seeing the levity with which the Area Command handled the matter, another petition was written on August 29, this year to the AIG Zone 2 Onikan. Meanwhile on Thursday, September 1, 2016, Hon Dabiri-Erewa was again approached and he gave an official letter to the Special Adviser to the Governor on Urban Development requesting the ministry to withdraw a letter of permit for demolition said to be given to the developer. Another letter was written to the Governor intimating him about the status of the monument and seeking his assistance to safeguard it.

However, despite all the efforts of highly responsible and patriotic individuals and government agencies, the developer on the eve of Eid-el Kabir (September 11, 2016) sneaked in with his instrument of destruction and wilfully demolished the Ilojo Bar, an outstanding historic and architectural monument that has adored the cultural landscape of Lagos Island for nearly two centuries.

This sad event is a critical turning point in the history of heritage management in Nigeria. The shocking way the action was carried out without any shame and embarrassment is a source of serious concern for the National Commission for Museums and Monuments as heritage managers and for all responsible Nigerians who love history and culture. The action is not only criminal, but it has robbed us of an important heritage resource that helps defines us as a people and assist our understanding of our past and our projection of the future.

The demolition has destroyed a masterpiece of the only surviving Brazilian houses in Lagos with its attractive arches and fine iron works as statue described as being “Gothic in style and balustrade reminiscent of a Venetian palace”. It has done great injustice to the credit of African craftsmanship in architecture which has exerted great influence on Yoruba architecture that is today visible in all parts of Yoruba land.

Indeed, the demolition has eliminated the tangible evidence of social and cultural impact of the transatlantic slave trade and its abolition. It has wiped away an outstanding source of memory and history of freed slaves and their roles and impact in the evolution and development of cosmopolitan urban Lagos. At the same time it has destroyed one of the outstanding symbolic evidence of cultural ties between Nigeria and Black diaspora in general and Brazil in particular.

This dastardly act has distorted the eminent position of Lagos in colonial history as centre where returnee slaves from Brazil built houses in the new architectural fashion when Lagos was created as a colony, thus impoverishing Lagos of its rich architectural urban history and undermining its acclaimed status as centre of excellence.

However, the NCMM will not rest on its oars until the perpetrators of this dastardly act are brought to book. In line with the powers and responsibilities conferred on it by NCMM Act, Cap N19, Laws of the federal republic of Nigeria 2004, the NCMM will ensure that criminal action is brought on the culprits as well as demand full compensation for the demolished monument. It will be reconstructed and fully restored according to professional restoration standards. We wish to assure all Nigerians that the Ilojo Bar will be restored as it is a fully documented National Monument with an up-to-date and comprehensive documentation of its architectural history and design details. Consequently, NCMM is poised to restore Ilojo Bar back to its original authentic form.

In the meantime, the site of the monument being an integral heritage space is being explored for rescue archaeology and heritage impact assessment.

We call on all well-meaning Nigerians to join the National Commission for Museums and Monument in saving, protecting and maintaining our national heritage resources.https://www.bellanaija.com/2016/09/watch-how-a-national-monument-ilojo-bar-in-lagos-was-demolished-by-a-developer/

Can you see how destructive some Nigerians can be? And can you see how nonchalant our government agencies can be when it comes to the preservation of monuments and heritage sites? angry
Re: Ghana's Oldest Storey Building Over Three Centuries Older Than That Of Nigeria by Nobody: 11:46am On Oct 30, 2016
laudate:


See how well Ghana has preserved its historical buildings and monuments. Go to Kenya and you will see ancient buildings still standing strong and looking great. They believe in preserving legacies, instead of tearing it down. Unlike those entrusted with such responsibility in the Nigerian government.

In Nigeria, we destroy historical buildings, loot artifacts and demolish ancient landmarks because we lack a sense of history. If a man does not know where he came from, he may never find the route to where he is going... cry


I have no disagreement with the points you raise. My original point was to compare the architecture and purpose behind two different buildings.

Nigerians destroy historical monuments not because they lack a sense of history but because the National narrative is economic. The value of anything is seen only from the perspective of immediate economic gain. whether these be relationships, marriage, sex, number of children, clothing...everything. Until the National narrative changes, historical buildings are unlikely to be seen as valuable.

It wasn't always this way. But from 1985 the country took a definite turn towards viewing all things through short term economic lenses.

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