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Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by bottlewater1(m): 5:08am On Oct 25, 2016
hello house what's your opinion on this?

"Sow In Dollars If You Want Returns In Dollars, And Use The Biggest Denomination" ~ Pastor E.A Adeboye in "Open Heavens" Volume 12; 20 November 2012. (ISBN: 978-36079-4-4).

Like most of you, I was in disbelief when I first read the quote above. I decided to verify it by purchasing the copy of Open Heavens from which the quote was taken (fully referenced above). I was shocked by what I found out - here is a flavor:

1). If you want returns in Dollars, sow in Dollars. Do not sow in Naira and be expecting a harvest in Euro. It does not work like that.

2). It is the particular denomination that you use that God will multiply and return to you.

3). Do yourself a favor by using the biggest denominations so as to get the greatest harvest.

For the reader's convenience, I have captured the entire exhortation in three screenshots.

The screenshots are for the people who refuse to believe Adeboye could ever say anything like that. They are for those who still believe the man speaks for, and on behalf, of God. They are for those who struggle to accept that the entire Redeemed Church enterprise is all about money. They are for those who live in denial of the fact they have been lied to and scammed by the people they have trusted and respected all their lives.

A friend of mine wrote: "The only way to sell a lie is to hide it between two truths." As these screenshots show, Adeboye's exploitative message is cunningly sandwiched between mostly benign exhortations and does not appear until the month of November, right towards the end of his book.

What exactly does an all-sufficient God need money for? Oh yeah, He needs it to fuel Adeboye's private jet. Adeboye and his fellow pastorpreneurs can resurrect dead people and cure every disease known to man, but they cannot cause money to appear from thin air to pay for their extravagant lifestyle - they need your money for that.

How can anyone justify buying a private jet with the donations of people who cannot send their children to school, afford hospital bills or even eat three square meals a day? The pope does not own a private jet even though he heads the largest church in the world. Neither does the British Prime Minister, the head of one of the most powerful countries in the world. It is difficult to see that our jet-flying pastors have more important jobs than these individuals. As I said in a previous article , their message lacks the power to transform our society. Corruption and poverty remain endemic in our society although there is a church or a mosque on practically every Nigerian street. What then is so urgent and special about their message that requires a private jet to spread around the world?

If this were truly about spreading the gospel of Jesus then where better to fly to than Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Yemen and Somalia? Perhaps, the witches and demons in the airspace over these countries will not grant our Holy Ghost-filled pastorpreneurs permission to land their jets. It seems the ones in the U.S., U.K. and the rich countries of Europe are so impressed by our pastorpreneurs they have signed a memorandum of understanding which grants open access to the airspace over these countries.

The fear of witches, demons, evil spirits, generational curses, and the threat of eternal punishment in hell fire is a potent tool in the hands of charlatans to maintain their control over gullible people . It is in their interest to garnish and perpetuate these myths because the continued success of their trade is reliant on the pervasiveness of these myths in society.

Indeed, it is easier to deceive than to convince gullible people that they are being deceived. Harriet Tubman said: "I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves." In my view, only those who have been mentally enslaved by Adeboye and his fellow pastorpreneurs will defend the screenshot sermons, and they cannot be freed until they have come to this realisation.
http://saharareporters.com/2016/10/23/why-im-even-more-convinced-pastor-adeboye-charlatan-dr-ijabla-raymond

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Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by lecturerdabo(m): 5:27am On Oct 25, 2016
"Mr Judge" Jesus we know!, Adeboye and his co 'pstorpreenuers' we know but who are you?


I may not agree with Pst Adeboye and and other pastors in everything after all they are also human(subject to errors) but never will I agree with someone who points out other peoples' fault in a such a 'self rightous' manner!!

Do you sow sparingly to reap bountifully?
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by chuose2: 5:44am On Oct 25, 2016
Who does not know that Adeboye is fake?

Just his support for an Islamist (Buhari), shows that something is wrong with Adeboye!


OP PLEASE YOU ARE ON POINT


But OP dont judge Jesus based on Adeboye.

Its nigerians that are blind that cannot tell that Adeboye is fake.

Some sites have documented Adeboye & his deceptions

http://www.thepathoftruth.com/false-teachers/nigerian-preachers.htm

http://www.gamji.com/article6000/NEWS7612.htm

https://www.facebook.com/E-A-Adeboye-Exposed-1519780844903637/

https://mennoknight./tag/enoch-adeboye/


ADEBOYE IS A SERIOUS FALSE TEACHER

The Christian minor kidnapped by the Emir of Katsina, what has Adeboye said?

The Redeemed pastors killed has he condemned the killings?

Adeboye is fake, and only wants money.

God will punish him soon.

I thank the OP & DR. IJABLA RAYMOND for bringing this to our attention

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Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by willieguy: 6:15am On Oct 25, 2016
Touch not mine anointed... who are you to judge?
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by Buhari4dullard: 6:34am On Oct 25, 2016
lecturerdabo:
"Mr Judge" Jesus we know!, Adeboye and his co 'pstorpreenuers' we know but who are you?


I may not agree with Pst Adeboye and and other pastors in everything after all they are also human(subject to errors) but never will I agree with someone who points out other peoples' fault in a such a 'self rightous' manner!!

Do you sow sparingly to reap bountifully?

willieguy:
Touch not mine anointed... who are you to judge?

Sir e no dey una bible to judge right?

John 7:24
Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly.

The bible again said to expose evil

Eph 5:11
Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

The man exposed Adeboye and instead of asking Adeboye to repent you are mis-quoting don't judge & touch not.

ADEBOYE NA FAKE PASTOR! angry

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Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by dorox(m): 6:56am On Oct 25, 2016
Here is the screenshot from the article.

Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by Montaque(m): 7:08am On Oct 25, 2016
I don't see the need in making distinction between currencies of the world. People give what they have.

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Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by divide9ja: 7:18am On Oct 25, 2016
Montaque:
I don't see the need in making distinction between currencies of the world. People give what they have.

Spot on bro, you give what you have.

Adeboye has ulterior motives !

Adeboye,You cannot be a true man of God. grin

So if you can't afford dollars, Adeboye is trying to say that God wont bless you bountifully !

This has convinced me that Adeboye is only interested in money!

I beg Redeemed I am coming to collect my tithes back joor angry
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by Montaque(m): 7:20am On Oct 25, 2016
divide9ja:

Spot on bro, you give what you have.
Adeboye has ulterior motives !
You cannot be a true man of God. grin
I don't subscribe to ur comment tho.
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by divide9ja: 7:21am On Oct 25, 2016
Montaque:

I don't subscribe to ur comment tho.
I understand, no wahala.

If Adeboye was of God , he will not make this statement.

Adeboye is FAKE!

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Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by dorox(m): 7:24am On Oct 25, 2016
divide9ja:


Spot on bro, you give what you have.

Adeboye has ulterior motives !

You cannot be a true man of God. grin

Jesus warned his followers of wolves in sheep's clothing, but this Adeboye is just a wolf poorly disguised as a sheep. I wonder why his followers cannot see him as the ravenous wolf he truly is.

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Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by BossLadyF(f): 6:47pm On Oct 25, 2016
What you should ask for is understanding. He was using currencies as an example. Just as saying you're sowing orange and expecting apple as your harvest.

Truth is that no matter how we explain it, even if Jesus comes down and explain, some persons will still see faults in it
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by ikorodureporta: 6:53pm On Oct 25, 2016
End tymerz everywhere undecided Lalasticlala must hear this.....

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Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by TomHagen: 7:30pm On Oct 25, 2016
BossLadyF:
What you should ask for is understanding. He was using currencies as an example. Just as saying you're sowing orange and expecting apple as your harvest.

Truth is that no matter how we explain it, even if Jesus comes down and explain, some persons will still see faults in it
No mind those people. They'll just take things out of context and start spewing rubbish.
A whole Adeboye na im dem dey yab like that. No respect!!

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Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by EyeHateGod: 8:42pm On Oct 25, 2016
grin this Adeboye Guy Can Lie with That his...
[size=18pt] The lord say There is Someone here today.......... [/size]

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Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by Bubu4Sea: 9:54am On Oct 29, 2016
EyeHateGod:
grin this Adeboye Guy Can Lie with That his...

[size=18pt] The lord say There is Someone here today.......... [/size]

Yes oh, never specific.
So that nobody can pin point him.
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by Niflheim(m): 2:11pm On Oct 29, 2016
Adeboye's favourite song: "It's all about the money!!! It's all about the dunn dunn dudu dunn dunn!!! I don't think it's funny!!! To see us fade away!!! It's all about the money!!! All about the dunn dunn dudu dunn dunn!!! .........................AND I THINK WE GOT IT ALL WRONG ANYWAAAAAAAY!!!"
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by Peacefullove: 2:24pm On Oct 29, 2016
BossLadyF:
What you should ask for is understanding. He was using currencies as an example. Just as saying you're sowing orange and expecting apple as your harvest.

Truth is that no matter how we explain it, even if Jesus comes down and explain, some persons will still see faults in it

so according to you and your so called pastor , the widow that throw little coins into the temple box during the days of Jesus will reap little ? I want you to respond to this.

I pity una .

that verse isn't differentiating currency, his explanation make it seem like the poor ones who offer little will be overlooked by God while the rich will be blessed by God for sowing in dollars which the poor fellow can't afford .
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by BossLadyF(f): 9:34pm On Oct 29, 2016
Peacefullove:


so according to you and your so called pastor , the widow that throw little coins into the temple box during the days of Jesus will reap little ? I want you to respond to this.

I pity una .

that verse isn't differentiating currency, his explanation make it seem like the poor ones who offer little will be overlooked by God while the rich will be blessed by God for sowing in dollars which the poor fellow can't afford .



That is all she had. Imagine you have 10k and want to sow just #50
Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Is A Charlatan - Dr. Ijabla Raymond by Peacefullove: 10:47pm On Oct 29, 2016
BossLadyF:



That is all she had. Imagine you have 10k and want to sow just #50

that's where am going , according to your pastor this guy that has 10k and decide to sow #50 will reap more that the poor boy who give all the #10 he has
.


sow in dollars, reap in dollars is the format.

he sowed #50 and will reap in #50.

while the poor boy that sow all his #10, will reap what ? 10 naira abi ?

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