Atheists:


Why was that tree in the garden of eden in the first place ?

Isn't this the equivalent of keeping a 9mm pistol a toddlers crib ?

No it isnt equivalent to keeping a 9mm pistol in a toddler’s crib.

The tenants were grown and capable of making decisions to comply with an expressed command or to wilfully flout it.

They were advised (i.e. warned) not to be irresponsible and were made to understand there will be consequences if the instruction was ignored.

The  tree was in the garden in as much as the Tree of Life was there alongside it too.

It was there to test  faith, loyalty and belief in God and His word

What beats me is how can one choose a Tree of Doom (i.e. Death) over a Tree of Life

Ambition? Running before crawling?

Atheists:


. . .  Again did Adam and Eve know what death was?

This is the equivalent of trying to punish a toddler with jail time when they don't even know what is a crime and what are the consequences of going to jail.

"Adam and Eve didnt know what death was?" it is remarked

Beg to diifer. If they didnt, they would have asked,

Of course they didnt ask because they understood what death was

"This is the equivalent of trying to punish a toddler with jail time when they don't even know what is a crime" another remark

These werent toddlers but growns.

Toddlers dont give reasons for their actions, these chaps gave explanations for the actions about to be taken and tried to justify it

Not a case of trying to punish but rather the aftermath of a cause and effect.

They knew what they were doing, at least Adam if not Eve.

Atheists:


How did they know that what they were doing was wrong when they had not yet lost their innocence

i.e. they had not yet eaten the tree of knowledge of right and wrong.

Deep Sight:


Has it occurred to you that the Garden of Eden was not a physical place on this planet?

Atheists:

Why was that tree in the garden of eden in the first place ? Isn't this the equivalent of keeping a 9mm pistol a toddlers crib ?

Has it occurred to you that the Garden of Eden was not a physical place on this planet?

Deep Sight:

^^^ It was in the Spiritual. Not in the world of matter at all.

Deep Sight:


Has it occurred to you that the Garden of Eden was not a physical place on this planet?

Recognise:


Some things are kept hidden, for the same reasons matches are kept from children's sight and/or reach.

Atheists:


Where is the garden of eden then ?

Deep Sight:


^^^ It was in the Spiritual. Not in the world of matter at all.

KunleOshob:


I don't agree with this your repeated assertion in my opinion,

I believe the true story of the garden of Eden has been distorted through centuries of oral tradition.

The bible made it clear it was a physical location on earth by describing it as a place where four rivers meet.

Three of this rivers are still in existence today and are in present day Iraq.

I am also of the opinion that the eden story might not necessarily be that of creation alone but that of civilization. A time God revealed himself to mankind.

Deep Sight:


^^^ Fair enough . . .

but be warned that the mere fact that earthly rivers are mentioned does not mean it was on earth.

This is because earthly landmarks such as mountains, rivers, etc often have spiritual counterparts, much in the same way as physical man has a spirit.

Atheists:


Do you have empirical evidence to show us that  the spiritual world actually exists?

Do you even have empirical evidence to show that humans have a spirit ?

@^

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

May kelly:

[size=14pt]For who has known the mind of the Lord? or who has been His counselor? Romans 11 V 34[/size]

Recognise:

Beg to diifer. If they didnt, they would have asked,
Of course they didnt ask because they understood what death was

Recognise on October 26, 2009, 01:45 PM Post #6:


. . . Beg to differ. If they didn't, they would have asked,

Of course they didn't ask because they understood what death was . . .

Agathamari responding to Recognise Today at 05:42:05 PM:


Do you know what a Quark is?  No?  Then why dididn'tou ever ask anyone?  Maybe cause you didnt know it existed? 

Same can be said about death to Adam and Eve

Recognise:

@Agathamari
So you reckon Adam & Eve never knew death existed? How did you arrive and settle for that conclusion.
I will reiterate they both knew death existed because they were informed of it by God.
Adam was infomed of death directly by God whereas Eve was made aware of death by her husband Adam.
Eve's awareness is substantiated by the fact that she was so sure of death to the point of debating about it with the devil
Adam went for the overkill by exaggerating to Eve that ordinarily touching the tree's fruit would cause death
Genesis 3:2-3 Amplified Bible (AMP)
²And the woman said to the serpent, We may eat the fruit from the trees of the garden,
³Except the fruit from the tree which is in the middle of the garden.
God has said, You shall not eat of it, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.
They were informed of death, and were aware of it,
They believed satan's word over God's . . .
Satan got the better of them.

because it was necessary for the garden

Agathamari:


So because God said there was death they automaticaly understood? 

Have you ever tried to explain death to someone who has never experienced it? 
(in modern times that would only be small children and people who have lived in exile thier whole lives)

It is extremly difficult and they usualy dont get it until after someone has passed on and even then it can take weeks before they really get it.