jonbellion:
lol no im not busy at the moment. Btw you really should stop saying communist leaders killed because of atheism.

No one is saying anything. The communist leaders said it themselves.
https://www.nairaland.com/3283286/communist-leaders-atheists-there-difference

winner01:
Of course, your funny list. Just that I dont think most atheists agree with you.

We have the quotes of militant atheists who expressed the motivations for their actions.

https://www.nairaland.com/3283286/communist-leaders-atheists-there-difference

Those wars you mentioned, not even one percent was christian. You cant guve any christian motivation for their actions..

Plus, if you were right. Im sure atheist high priests wont let us rest.

The fact remains, militant atheists are dangerous and must not be let anywhere near power.

and militant theists aren't dangerous?

stephendamsoho:

your monicker though

wentin happen

Godgay:
my point is I would like a fair comparison,Stalin and Lenin were Russian atheist who took their ideas too far,, something humans are capable of,it is just unfair to point Christian lunatics and leave out their atheist counterpart,there are a lot of killings carried out by suicidal teens because of evolution or materialism u should goggle them I have personally forgotten some names.

Go and learn The Russian History and Tradition and See where they Get their Philosophy From

My ultimate point is there are Christians lunatic,same way there are Muslims lunatics,racist lunatics,liberal lunatics,conservatives lunatics as well as atheist lunatics,u can't deny one for the other,fighting against lunaticism all together is my point.

Are u New on the Religion Section?

EyeHateGod:

Go and learn The Russian History and Tradition and See where they Get their Philosophy From

Are u New on the Religion Section?

yes I am new

stephendamsoho:


God-Gay

my other account had a problem,it was suppose to be godguy I was still a preacher then,but I ended up typing god gay,I can't change it

Godgay:
yes I am new

Good pls go and see winner01 profile and direct that 2nd point you made to him and Not atheist

Godgay:
I am an agnostic but I dislike Dawkins and the rest of its militant atheist parade

That's like saying "I am a woman but I hate feminists". No one has fought harder and longer for your right to come out as an agnostic.

felixomor:
The person in question actually became popular by spewing hate for God and everybody that has anything to do with God.

There's a difference between boldly speaking out against a belief that is popular, false, and harmful, and spewing hate. He doesn't spew hate.

winner01:
I don't know Richard Dawkins personally, but I know he is deeply angry. I also dont think any sane person would be happy with a man who incites people against each other by advising some to mock and ridicule religious people with hatred and contempt.
If someone is truly sick, do you mock such person. I think not.
I dont hate him, but i definitely wont incite people to hate on another simply because they dont share my views.

Dawkins never said that atheists should hate religious people. You're putting words into his mouth. This is lying for Jesus. I think he made a mistake, though. He should have said "mock their irrational beliefs" instead of saying "mock them". Mock the belief, not the believers. Mockery is needed because some people are so thick-skulled that it wouldn't even occur to them that their beliefs could be wrong without mockery.

Seun:




There's a difference between speaking boldly out against a belief that is popular, false, and harmful, and spewing hate. He doesn't spew hate.

Likewise, same can also be said of the Christians speaking against him
They dont hate him, they are just helping him see the follishness in his ideas.

Yea

winner01:
No one is saying anything. The communist leaders said it themselves.
https://www.nairaland.com/3283286/communist-leaders-atheists-there-difference

basically what you need to understand about communism is that a 100% utopian society has never been achieved. Most of Karl marxs' views were warped by idiots like Stalin Mao Zedong and pot pot. You should really stop looking at bias websites like conservepedia. I stumbled upon that website once and was shocked at the extreme dishonestly so as to paint atheism in thy baddest light possible. Saying somebody like Stalin did all those killings under the banner of atheism is just like saying that all Christians must be evil because Adolf Hitler was a Roman Catholic, casually disregarding the numerous positive contributions Christians such as Martin Luther King have brought to society. Atheists and agnostics have contributed a lot to society. Stalin basically wanted to start a personality cult. I looked at the first quote in your article and saw it was quote mined to fit your views which is rather dishonest.Religious socialism still exists, as the system of communism is itself NOT opposed to religion, and indeed, many Christians with socialist sympathies have drawn on the words of Jesus himself in defense of socialism and other anti-capitalist social teachings.Marx did not advocate the banning of religion, instead he argued that it is simply a way to cope and see something bright at the end of the tunnel when one is faced with the injustices of feudal and capitalist society, and says that the criticism of religion is thus the criticism of the conditions that breed it. In a later interview Marx dismissed violence against religion a d regarded it as nonsense. He felt that as socialism grows, religion would disappear and it's disappearance must be done by social development, in which education must play a part. I saw that in your article and that quote was true. Unfortunately despite Marx's view that religion could co-exist with communism, many communist states have cracked down on religious groups or banned them altogether. Basically anyone that they saw as a threat was killed not just christians alone so how is this Karl Marx's fault. I said earlier that his views were waroed by most 20th century world leaders. I watched your videos on irrational athiests and couldn't help but to feel embarrassed at their actions though. It's people like them that make people like you think athiests or agnostics are angry at God. Most atheists are supportive of secularism. You can basically believe what you want to believe but you don't really have to force it down everyone's throats. Most atheists basically start being outspoken when fundamental christians take away rights from homosexuals. Christians spew out so much hatred for gay people and go and start protesting outside in the street against them saying they'll burn in hell and basically things from christian theology. They call themselves "God's people," "the chosen people," "the elect," "the righteous," etc., while nonbelievers have been labeled "heathens," "infidels," and "atheistic Communists" (as if atheism and Communism are intimately connected it's actually tiring telling christians this). Up until well into the 20th century in the United States and other Christian countries (notably Ireland) the churches pressured governments into passing laws forbidding the sale and distribution of birth control devices, and they also managed to enact laws forbidding even the description of birth control devices. Not to mention that in the 15th century about the time of Columbus's discovery of the New World, Spain's Jews were ordered either to convert to Christianity or to flee the country about half chose exile, while those who remained, the "Conversos," were favorite targets of the Inquisition plus
the Catholic Church banned the Copernican theory (that the Earth revolves around the sun) and banned Galileo from teaching they did not consider the evidence for that theory it was enough that it contradicted scripture so I guess it was false. I'm sure you would never allow your child to study something like evolutionary biology or cosmology because it coflicts with your world views. This is basically what someone like me would be against. How would mankind continue to innovate if religion keeps holding us back. There are young minds that would be sharp to help us to understand our world and universe and make it a better place for us to live. We need to continue innovation and were can only help ourselves. The universe is a dangerous place and it is trying to kill us. Science is basically a way of outsmarting the universe. We need young minds that would continue this strategy and would not be held down by religious beliefs. Science is an irrefutable methodology. Religion is not. Therefore they are basically mutually exclusive Science is able to make accurate predictions.Edwin Hubble first obtained proof the universe was expanding in 1929. Different astronomers proposed different explanations for this, but the most revolutionary proposal was that the universe had been expanding for billions of years.the scientists pursuing the Big Bang model looked for a prediction they could test something creationists wouldn't do They realized that if the universe had begun as a rapidly expanding ball of hot gas 14 billion years ago, the heat from that gas should still be visible as a faint glow coming from every direction, far beyond our galaxy. In 1948, they used their theoretical calculations to predict the exact color and exact temperature of the glow they expected to find.in 1964, astronomers in New Jersey detected a faint microwave glow initially nothing more than a “hiss” on their radiotelescope coming from the very edge of the visible universe, exactly as the Big Bang Theory predicted. The glow was just three degrees warmer than empty space, and exactly the same color as calculations 24 years earlier had said it would be. Today, spacecraft have imaged this glow referred to in cosmology as the Cosmic Microwave Background, or CMB coming from every corner of the sky, clearly enough to produce this radiophotograph of the hot, dense universe almost 14 billion years ago one of the strongest prices of evidence plus redshift and the abundance of different elements in the universe.Science doesn’t care whether I am a Christian or an agnostic, it only demands testable predictions and empirical evidence and basically the evidence right now its coming from people who aren't letting religous dogma get the better of them. We would need evidence that rock layers could somehow form in just 4000 years we would need evidence that somehow you can reset atomic clocks and keep neutrons from becoming protons. Bring on any of those things and I'll be a creationist. Not to mention the thought of a powerful being having a "chosen people" is incredibly racist and then having the mind to torture me in a burning fire for all eternity for something as trivial as unbelief I simply find that as an insult to the creator of the universe. Science doesn’t rule out a creator; it just provides us with information about the universe. So that's why I cant claim to say there is no God. I respect thiestic scientists a lot. Isaac newtons equations for momentum and kinetic energy are still right but only at lower speeds basically as long as the speeds involved are less than the speed of light. So basically as astrophysicist and my personal favourite scientist Neil degrasse Tyson said' if you want to use God as the basis for things you can't explain then God will remain an ever receeding pocket of scientific ignorance"

Seun:

That's like saying "I am a woman but I hate feminists". No one has fought harder and longer for your right to come out as an agnostic.


There's a difference between speaking boldly out against a belief that is popular, false, and harmful, and spewing hate. He doesn't spew hate.


Dawkins never said that atheists should hate religious people. You're putting words into his mouth. This is lying for Jesus. I think he made a mistake, though. He should have said "mock their irrational beliefs" instead of saying "mock them". Mock the belief, not the believers. Mockery is needed because some people are so thick-skulled that it wouldn't even occur to them that their beliefs could be wrong without mockery.

one : there is nothing like lying for Jesus in the bible coz Jesus dont lie,
Your are trying to defend his statement and u end up falling into the trap where u quote him '" morck them"

Accept Jesus before it too late for you

zyzxx:
one : there is nothing like lying for Jesus in the bible coz Jesus dont lie,
Your are trying to defend his statement and u end up falling into the trap where u quote him '" morck them"

Accept Jesus before it too late for you

lol you know what he looks like aren't you his friend. Introduce him to us. Introduce him to nairaland forum

QuietHammer:


You really consider Dawkins a militant atheist?

May Christopher Hitchen's soul rest in peace

It's refreshing when people say Militant atheist, it means people who are unfearful, explicit and unrespectful in their outspoken arguments against religions.

Talk about Militant Religionist, it becomes a different case..

winner01:
Story!.

Just include the Nigerian civil war. You know igbos were mostly christians and the Nigerian government were mostly islamic

Haha, I just checked again and I saw french revolution, Korean revolution, vietnam war, Congo war (despite the fact that an atheist was ruling at the time), carribean war, poland war.

Its simple, Just include Nigerian war, South African war etc.

Christianity, nawa oo


[size=15pt]KingEbukasBlog[/size]!!! Where art thou

I stopped paying attention to what he says when he mentioned Stalin in our argument on the Taiping Rebellion . I'm not sure if Stalin is his mentor - I won't be surprised though.

Anyone who blames Christianity for any act of violence or as the precipitant of any war is grossly ignorant . They have been butt hurt since the day atheism was proven to be the animus that led to the killings by the communists

winner01:

Lmao...

Dutch revolt, 30 years war, carribean slaves, first and second world war, all the civil wars and revolts that ever happened in the world
Haha.

Its okay
But you forgot to include Biafra war, Odi massacre, the apatheid regime and the likes.

Despite where you got your terrible embarrassment, the most deadly christian catholic misdeed was the spanish inquisition and less than a million people were killed.

KingEbukasBlog, please come and laugh with me ooo

Bro , he forgot World War 1 and World War 11 , let's blame Christianity for that too

KingEbukasBlog:




Bro , he forgot World War 1 and World War 11 , let's blame Christianity for that too

Adolf Christler.

CoolUsername:


Adolf Christler.

Hilarious ! The Soviet Union ruled by atheists also partook in the World War 11 , so

Anyway , Hitler was not a Christian .

According to Hitler : "Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature"

Also , read this :

Don't you think talking about dead communists in every thread violates rule 1 and rule 18? Obviously Richard Dawkins is not a communist.

Seun:
Don't you think talking about dead communists in every thread violates rule 1 and rule 18? Obviously Richard Dawkins is not a communist.

Unless atheists stop blaming religion for every evil , I won't stop talking about communism . Communism is still very much active in China and North Korea - their ideologies exposes how inherently nefarious atheism is .

Cheers to the logical atheists , Cheers to communism .



And Richard Dawkins ? That atheist high priest ? You obsequious atheists venerate that dude - always listening and regurgitating whatever he says . Why ?

KingEbukasBlog:


Unless atheists stop blaming religion for every evil , I won't stop talking about communism . Communism is still very much active in China and North Korea - their ideologies exposes how inherently nefarious atheism is .

Cheers to the logical atheists , Cheers to communism .



And Richard Dawkins ? That atheist high priest ? You obsequious atheists venerate that dude - always listening and regurgitating whatever he says . Why ?

This thread is about Richard Dawkins so if he is not a communist then I don't see why we should be talking about communism on this thread.

Seun:

This thread is about Richard Dawkins so if he is not a communist then I don't see why we should be talking about communism on this thread.

RaphieMontella , an atheist , listed all the wars he could think of and claimed Christianity led to those wars . I didn't see you cautioning him bro .

Here's the thing , as long as atheists keep blaming Christianity for any wrong whatsoever , the atheist states (communist states) always come up as proof that atheism is never the answer .

And the ignorant Richard Dawkins has also claimed on his website that atheism shouldn't be blamed for the killings . Can you imagine that bro ?

Surprisingly, everything Hitler said about Christianity was 100% true. Hitler was a philosopher, a painter. Have you seen his paintings? Its really unfortunate that he used his knowledge for bad. When an non religious person is a bad person, he is bad. He isn't bad because of atheism, or pantheism, or deism, etc. Religion can make otherwise good people do bad/stupid things. Hitler is an EXTREME case of an atheist going bad. However, what he did is comparable to what the Christian church did in the dark ages. Or what the Papacy did when the Borgia family was in control. The difference is that they did it BECAUSE of religion.
Hitler was able to release himself from the shackles of religion. Because of that, he realised his potential as an eloquent speaker, a great artist, and much more. The world would be celebrating him today alongside Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg as one of the 'Greats' in his field if he hadn't gone bad.
That is why atheists on here preach humanism as well, to prevent people from going bad, and helping people to realise you can be a good person without any religion, religion that can also make you do harmful things.

KingEbukasBlog:



And the ignorant Richard Dawkins has also claimed on his website that atheism shouldn't be blamed for the killings . Can you imagine that bro ?

Yes like Christianity Shouldn't Be blamed For Killing?

KingEbukasBlog:


RaphieMontella , an atheist , listed all the wars he could think of and claimed Christianity led to those wars . I didn't see you cautioning him bro .

Here's the thing , as long as atheists keep blaming Christianity for any wrong whatsoever , the atheist states (communist states) always come up as proof that atheism is never the answer .

And the ignorant Richard Dawkins has also claimed on his website that atheism shouldn't be blamed for the killings . Can you imagine that bro ?

This is about the rules of the forum. Don't break them.

jonbellion:
lol you know what he looks like aren't you his friend. Introduce him to us. Introduce him to nairaland forum

k

SHALOM!

QuietHammer:
I won't bother giving his biography as most people here likely know this highly respected man.

Let's talk about BIOGRAPHIES?

Let's talk about HISTORY?

Let's talk about HATE?

This man is an ENGLISHMAN: a member of THE MOST ARROGANT, GREEDY, AND VAIN Race on the face of the Earth.

THEY DIED FOR THE SAKE OF SAYING THEY WERE THE FIRST TO REACH SOMEWHERE.

They KILLED ANIMALS, just so they could say that they did.

They SLAUGHTERED Races on the ARGUMENT that they were INFERIOR, being LESS-EVOLVED- because they COULD, and because they had RESOURCES they COVETED.

Not only did they commit the SLAVERY ATROCITY (of a type specifically FORBIDDEN in The Bible,) they VASTLY EXAGGERATED the TRANSATLANTIC Slave Trade, and HID the fact that MOST BLACK SLAVES WERE INDIGENOUS AMERICAN BLACKS.

They have KNOWINGLY HIJACKED BIBLE HISTORY, hiding and covering-up the FACT that the EGYPTIANS, ISRAELITES, YAHSHUA (changing The Saviour's Sacred NamSUREL"JESUS," a name that could not even EXIST, because "J" did not exist until 400 years ago, was part of their PSY-OP!) AND THE DISCIPLES WERE ALL BLACK PEOPLE.

In 1947, THOR HEYERDAHL proved that Ancient Egyptians could have reached America in PAPYRUS BOATS which ONLY BLACKS knew how to build- but WHITE "EGYPTIAN" professional boatbuilders did not.

AN ACADEMIC OF RICHARD DAWKINS' STATURE IS SURELY AWARE OF ALL OF THESE FACTS, AND COMPLICIT IN THEIR COVER-UP!

Christians, why do you hate him this much?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW7607YiBso

It's just about 7 minutes.

Followers of Yahshua hate no one- but the ENGLISH adopted a form of DISOBEDIENCE AGAINST YAHSHUA, while CALLING ON HIS NAME, to COMMIT EVERY SIN The Bible condemns, and PRETENDING that THEY were CHRISTIANS.

Please format your "BLOCK OF TEXT" properly.

What sort of phone were you using?

With some phones, you need to hold "SHIFT" + "ENTER" to create a NEWLINE.

Sometimes you have to add a "FULL STOP" to the beginning of a line to be able to create an INDENT, or a NEWLINE.

You really have to work hard to make the system work for you. It is a shame to let a good effort be messed up by lazy software programming.

A very stupid man with many stupid followers

QuietHammer:

Let's say he spews hate for God, he doesn't attack christians directly. Why then do christians attack him and others like him in such manner?

What kind of an Atheist follower are you, QUITHAMMER ? You dont even know your masters doctrines. You are simply an ignorant Atheist when you claim that your guru never attack Christians directly.

Richard Dawkins, the mentally disturbed God-Father of modern Atheism said, "Jesus never existed."

orisa37:
Since I knew Jesus Christ.

Good point !

Richard Dawkins attack on Jesus, that he never existed is stupid. What would Dawkins say about the evidence of the life of Jesus as documented in the Holy Quran ?