Every day these son of Jesus obas keeps relegating our culture and tradition to the background all in the name of Christianity.

Na dem dey give those Edo people mouth to yab Yoruba obas.

I hope Yoruba cultures and traditions won't become extinct with these sets of guys on the throne...SMH.

kodded:
what kind of tradition support the killing of innocent people for sacrifice and to appease the gods

it boggles the mind! I guess they are in support because it may not be their family members who could be sarcrified. Archaic, ignorant and backward fools, same way nigerians were killing tweens babies those days in the name of ritual. These days every nigerian is praying to have tween babies.

MY KING

gypsey:
it boggles the mind! I guess they are in support because it may not be their family members who could be sarcrified. Archaic, ignorant and backward fools, same way nigerians were killing tweens babies those days in the name of ritual. These days every nigerian is praying to have tween babies.

my dear don't mind them, most of them are ignorant








they don't know what is going on behind every coronation and festival

kingobozy:
Yimu of life .. we all know that from time immemorial, accession to the throne of your father s require spilling of innocent virgin blood and other cannibalistic practices..

what?! that sounds barbaric to the core, i mean, who could this innocent virgin be? Some one else child i guess. These peoples should be in prison.

kodded:
my dear don't mind them, most of them are ignorant








they don't know what is going on behind every coronation and festival

true! Perhaps they should also give up their iphones and laptops which i believe they are typing this nonesense from, and go back and live nakid in the forest. In the name of tradition

aariwa:
So continuing with the the traditions of our fore fathers is now considered a ritual because the white man says so

perhaps you should not be using your laptop and smartphones because white men made it, and oh! Stop speaking and writing in the white man's language too.

go back and live in the forest nakid and continue your so called tradition of killing tween and triplets babies, or killing virgin girls for sarcrifice .

kodded:
what kind of tradition support the killing of innocent people for sacrifice and to appease the gods

The human sacrifice sentiment is one of the points that allows the brainwashing to sink. Let's face it. Yes humans were sacrificed in the past and that wasn't peculiar to Africa (the Bible told us Christ was sacrificed, so don't let us turn a blind eye to that. He was human too). Slavery was the main thing that encouraged that. The essence of sacrifice is to let go of your valuable possessions in order to protect yourself or appease the gods. People then saw slaves as one of such possessions and not as fellow humans. However as society evolved, slavery was abolished and human sacrifice abolished as well following the admonishing of Ifa that 'Bi a se bi eru, la bi omo'. Any Abore (Chief Priest) in Yorubaland asking you to bring Human head for royal or whatever sacrifice is doing his own bidding (probably needs the parts for personal rituals) and should be reported immediately. I can say that categorically because I have inside information. Human sacrifice is a thing of the past in Yoruba tradition.

gypsey:
perhaps you should not be using your laptop and smartphones because white men made it, and oh! Stop speaking and writing in the white man's language too.

go back and live in the forest nakid and continue your so called tradition of killing tween and triplets babies, or killing virgin girls for sarcrifice .

continue your tradition of fvckjng young boys like a pedopjile in church .sick fool.


slavery has not been wiped out.

aariwa:
So continuing with the the traditions of our fore fathers is now considered a ritual because the white man says so

the man even answered the ritual questions diplomatically.
I think He lied. He took the real ritual like incisions, eating the previous King's heart etc.

What is all this now... .. Baba., Abeg go siddon

[quote author=peaceonearth post=50780232]

The human sacrifice sentiment is one of the points that allows the brainwashing to sink. Let's face it. Yes humans were sacrificed in the past and that wasn't peculiar to Africa (the Bible told us Christ was sacrificed, so don't let us turn a blind eye to that. He was human too). Slavery was the main thing that encouraged that. The essence of sacrifice is to let go of your valuable possessions in order to protect yourself or appease the gods. People then saw slaves as one of such possessions and not as fellow humans. However as society evolved, slavery was abolished and human sacrifice abolished as well following the admonishing of Ifa that 'Bi a se bi eru, la bi omo'. Any Abore (Chief Priest) in Yorubaland asking you to bring Human head for royal or whatever sacrifice is doing his own bidding (probably needs the parts for personal rituals) and should be reported immediately. I can say that categorically because I have inside information. Human sacrifice is a thing of the past in Yoruba tradition. You're grounded bro

So you refer to God as an imported God....I pirry you

xnsandrxns:
Most people didn't even bother reading the interview.
I just wonder why people that are supposed to be the custodians of the great Yoruba culture and tradition neglect it for foreign gods.
Dropping your tradition for imported ones is not smart

GoldenJAT:
very intelligent man!apt and concise answers.

Love this King forever

Pavore9:
Insightful read.

Great mind greatness King

peaceonearth:
Embarassing to say the least.
The rituals were for your own good. We've heard cases of criminals kidnapping Obas or robbers/assassins shooting Obas successfully. The rituals are to turn you to the actual 'Alase, ekeji Orisa' and fortify you spiritually against all forms of spiritual/physical attacks.

Before Colonisation, we the Yorubas had our own successful system of governance. In that system, the Oba is the Head of government, Head of State and Commandar-in-chief of the armed forces. He and his 'Ijoyes' form the Executives. The Ogbonis represented the Judicial arm. Incidentally, the Owu people (the people this Oba now represents) started the first Legislative arm known as 'Igbimo' where ordinary citizens are allowed to contribute to National issues in a parliamentary arrangement.

The Ibadan people have a more sophisticated system that combines Executive, Judiciary and Legistlature in a single body that evolved into what is now known as Olubadan Council.

We had our own civilisation. Colonisation and religious brainwashing denied us the opportunity of developing the inventions and gains of our forefathers. What is now practiced as democracy today was an ancient greek philosophy, refined and reformed continuously till it emerged as a system acceptable to all. If we had reformed and refined our primordial system of governance, instead of rubishing it like we like to do, perhaps we would have escaped the ill-luck of corrupt and inept leadership that remains the single bane to our national development.

Ask for understanding dear. You far, too far from the truth

fabulousdora:
So you refer to God as an imported God....I pirry you

Pirry yourself ma

lightblazingnow:




Ask for understanding dear. You far, too far from the truth

Which truth are you talking about? The actual truth, the rumoured truth or the 'truth' of those who twist history for selfish reasons? I won't pretend to know it all but I know more about my past as an African than the average African youth. The truth is there for those who seek it.

gypsey:
it boggles the mind! I guess they are in support because it may not be their family members who could be sarcrified. Archaic, ignorant and backward fools, same way nigerians were killing tweens babies those days in the name of ritual. These days every nigerian is praying to have tween babies.

fela, chinua achebe, Soyinka are all archaic, ignorant, backward fools? is your father as intelligent or exposed as any of these men?
iidiots like you will never use your head, slave mentality has drained your brain. so quick to believe every bad report about your people. ..you are the ignorant one here, to think Yoruba coronation is about killing people... Iidiots like you don't know their history. ..you probably don't even know a thing about your great grandfather, but will tell the history of arabs and Jews like it's your business

here's a dunce calling people ignorant, calabar people killed twins out of lack of understanding of the biology behind it and the belief ( probably through experience) of having one twin turning out bad in society. .they sought to protect the society by killing the twins since they didn't know which will turn bad. Chiefs also took advantage of the situation .. calabar not all Nigerians
the yoruba are known to revere twins, twins are sacred and venerated not killed in Yoruba traditions

300 years ago europeans were still dining on real human flesh, morons like you will never talk about that

PAGAN9JA:


continue your tradition of fvckjng young boys like a pedopjile in church .sick fool.


slavery has not been wiped out.

yes! The same way you have been fuvcked in your ass! Otherwise how did you know that young boys are been fuvked in the church?, because they fuvcked you too, did you enjoy it? Fool!

Why direct your fuvking anger at me?! It wasn't me who fuvked you in the ass! now fuvk! Off!

Nothing makes me cringe these days as much as seeing Africans "display" their religiosity . Have you ever seen an African saying, "oh the whiteman has left the ways of God and we blacks are the ones keeping faith alive/saving the world from damnation!? ...SMH

That man is supposed to be a true custodian of tradition and heritage...why is he sabotaging it? Tragic. It would have been more respectable refusing the post/title...guessing it must have its perks eh? .....I have been so proud of the Yorubas for being the strongest adherents of their beliefs and tradition, (more than my people and some other people who even resort to taking matters into their own hands, for religion's sake, sigh)...and now this crowned one comes to say this!

The world would never respect a people without their own philosophies. How can it know what you are really about when you troll and parrot other peoples' beliefs and customs to the detriment/abandonment of your own!? How do we not see this? You can be anything or Christian (not much choice here..what with having being colonised and liberated and all ) ...but one must be that without the unnecessary and ignorant denigration of the laws of the land where they will always be from...where their ancestors lived...where they will always belong to even with ten foreign passports and living in foreign lands forever.
@ topic? Just return the crown already
SMH @ us
(praying for emancipation from mental slavery)

gypsey:
true! Perhaps they should also give up their iphones and laptops which i believe they are typing this nonesense from, and go back and live nakid in the forest. In the name of tradition

another idiota who thinks yoruba tradition is about living in forests roaming naked

macof:


fela, chinua achebe, Soyinka are all archaic, ignorant, backward fools? is your father as intelligent or exposed as any of these men?
iidiots like you will never use your head, slave mentality has drained your brain. so quick to believe every bad report about your people. ..you are the ignorant one here, to think Yoruba coronation is about killing people... Iidiots like you don't know their history. ..you probably don't even know a thing about your great grandfather, but will tell the history of arabs and Jews like it's your business

here's a dunce calling people ignorant, calabar people killed twins out of lack of understanding of the biology behind it and the belief ( probably through experience) of having one twin turning out bad in society. .they sought to protect the society by killing the twins since they didn't know which will turn bad. Chiefs also took advantage of the situation .. calabar not all Nigerians
the yoruba are known to revere twins, twins are sacred and venerated not killed in Yoruba traditions

300 years ago europeans were still dining on real human flesh, morons like you will never talk about that

thanks for all the insults shows how sad your life is, anyway just because some things was done in ignorance, in your own words, the same word (ignorant)which you accused of using, should people then carry on with that tradition of ignorance? When will it stop? white people dined in human flesh 300 years ago , if you say so, but i believe that inhumane tradition no more exist, unlike the tradition which you would like to carry on, and if the tradition is so Good why did the oba refused it?

gypsey:
perhaps you should not be using your laptop and smartphones because white men made it, and oh! Stop speaking and writing in the white man's language too.

go back and live in the forest nakid and continue your so called tradition of killing tween and triplets babies, or killing virgin girls for sarcrifice .

this one has a fried brain. oh africa! the dying continent.

macof:


this one has a fried brain. oh africa! the dying continent.

i made my opinion you do not have to agree

gypsey:
true! Perhaps they should also give up their iphones and laptops which i believe they are typing this nonesense from, and go back and live nakid in the forest. In the name of tradition

my brother thier hypocrisy stinks like a rotten dead rat

gypsey:
thanks for all the insults shows how sad your life is, anyway just because some things was done in ignorance, in your own words, the same word (ignorant)which you accused of using, should people then carry on with that tradition of ignorance? When will it stop?

I don't see it as insult but honest description of you from the comments you post. it's only a moronic african not to mention a bastard that will say the things you say.

your European masters were eating real human flesh 300 years ago. answer to that and stop talking about calabar people killing twins in the past... .. in fact what's worse is that, you tag the killing of twins to all Nigerian ethnicities
shows how ignorant of Nigeria you are

What a great king leader and pacesetter of our time. As an African, Nigerian, yoruba, am indeed proud of our culture. But not all these cultural practices are good. As new generation citizens, we should be able to draw a line between good culture and bad culture.

Many decent and Godly people have rejected to serve their people either in politics, royalty and a host of others just because of the rituals they have to go through. Must we continue to deny such great people the opportunity of serving their people just because we want to hold on to one archaic and retrogressive culture.

The Oba Owu has bared it opened finally. The question should always be what are the reasons for those rituals, are there alternative ways out, are there superior arguments against such rituals? Has there been any developments or progress from the age long rituals of our forefathers. Why must we hold on to something that cannot prosper us? Why must we be so proud to hold on to such cultural practice just because we want to preserve the way things are done as of old? How many of the Kingmakers, or ritualists are still living by the old way of life? Let's stop deceiving ourselves. Our forefathers worshipped idols that did more harm than good. And the king here is saying No.

The earlier responses by majority of nairalanders on this thread have shown to me clearly why Nigeria and many of us we are not progressing despite the fact that we are either Christians or Muslims.

Kudos to the king. May he live long and rule with righteousness on the throne. He has chosen to live by what he believes. I pray God will justify him and grant him a successful reign.

macof:


another idiota who thinks yoruba tradition is about living in forests roaming naked

no need to be hysterical and obnoxiuos yes! That's what i think. Why not educate me instead of insults?