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| The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by UyiIredi(m): 2:45pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
1) Condemned all mankind to death for Adam's sin (Gen 3:17-19, Rom 5;14). This is wrong. 2) Killed a man for trying to steady the ark of God (2 Sam 6:7). Morally outrageous. 3) Drowned the whole earth in a flood including innocent kids and babies (Gen 7: 21-23). This makes God worse than Hitleror Mao. 4) Killed Onan for refusing to impregnate his late brother's wife (Gen 38: 9-10). This wasn't wrong. 5) Condoned slavery in the OT 6) Slaughtered innocent firstborn Egyptian children because of the actions of their king (Exo 12:29) 7) Killed Israelites for complainaning that God killed them (Num 16: 41-49)  Killed Aninias and Sapphira for lying (Acts 5:1-10). Lying is wrong but killing people for that is also wrong.9) Sacrificed an innocent Jesus to forgive humanity (Heb 9:28). This doesn't make sense. Even humans won't sacrifice someone else to forgive a person. An omniscient God should know better. 10) Sends unbelievers to hell fire. This is absurd and very wicked. You don't punish people eternally for disbelieving especially when you didn't provide strong evidence for the validation of your preferred belief. Besides that would mean condemning even morally upright people to eternally torture because of a belief. This is very wrong. And this list is by no means exhaustive. Typically, Christians give excuses for such obviously immoral acts. A popular one is that is he is a God of justice. However. these acts clearly are unjust and would earn scorn from such Christians if a human performed them. It just goes to show how people can justify evil under religion. 6 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by plaetton: 2:47pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
I tire for this Uyi Iredia |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by UyiIredi(m): 2:55pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
plaetton:  1 Like |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by felixomor: 3:27pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Was ur account hacked? |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by DoctorAlien(m): 3:31pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
But He does not exist, right? |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by jonbellion(m): 3:33pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Lol OP is more of a diest I guess. It makes more sense then believing in a personal God anyway 2 Likes |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by orisa37: 3:39pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
God is wholly Spirit. His ways are not like humans. All you see as wickednes to Humans are chastisements to make humans spirit. God does not punish humans. He made humans in His Image. He uses Satan(Devil on Earth) to use its Demons TO CONTROL HIS STANDARD REQUIREMENTS IN HUMANS AND FOR HIS PLEASURES. You have been warned never to be jeulous. |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by raphieMontella: 3:42pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
a Moral failure? More like a moral catastrophe www.nairaland.com/3355430/evil-nature-christian-god-genocidal 1 Like |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by UyiIredi(m): 3:44pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
orisa37: SMH. |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by jonbellion(m): 3:45pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
for the christian religion thier holy book also contains violence. When it is pointed out to them there they resort to special pleading but they would also be quick to condemn Islam and take it's verses out of context. Basically a pot calling kettle black scenario Hypocrisy at it's finest Abrahamic religions: Jokes that aren't funny anymore 7 Likes |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by jonbellion(m): 3:45pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
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| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by jonbellion(m): 3:47pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
UyiIredi:lol see special pleading as usual 1 Like
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| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by Scholar8200(m): 4:41pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
UyiIredi:And saves millions for Jesus' Obedience! Righteousness and Justice incorruptible that!!! Well, God is not human. |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by jonbellion(m): 4:43pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Scholar8200:hehe special pleading strikes again 5 Likes
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| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by UyiIredi(m): 4:45pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Scholar8200: But people still die because of Adam's sin. The only so-called difference Jesus makes is that they ain eternal life in death. That doesn't remove the fact that mankind was cursed to death because of Adam's mistake. Scholar8200: Chai ! Pathetic excuse. 1 Like |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by Scholar8200(m): 4:49pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
UyiIredi:Eternal life in death? This is why we say it's better to leave these things alone. You have no realization of their implication ok. |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by Scholar8200(m): 4:49pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
jonbellion:seen |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by taurus25(m): 5:13pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
4) Killed Onan for refusing to impregnate his late brother's wife (Gen 38: 9-10). This wasn't wrong. This one funny sha . ...like wtf 1 Like |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by Aaronsrod: 6:25pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
UyiIredi: Your disobedience and blasphemy will bring death and calamity upon you and your family. Get deliverance. Avoid hellfire. Our God is a man of war!! |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by EyeHateGod: 6:32pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:The Christian god [Yahweh] Does not Exist... You got a problem with that?  |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by evilapc: 6:32pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
I simply think Christian God is very partial God, and has no mercy for those He despised.. ... just as Jeremiah said, He made some for honor and some for dishonor. ..and just Jesus said, His father will bring those who are his and abandon the rest to perish. .. 1 Like |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by EyeHateGod: 6:33pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Aaronsrod:Lol You wanna Compare Yahweh To Zeus? Or Ares? |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by jonbellion(m): 6:36pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Aaronsrod:that is obviously what is keeping you in line fear of imaginary hell fire If you actually think that a loving god would turn somebody to living suya because of something as trivial stupid and unimportant as a lack of belief in him then you need to have your moral code checked as well as your brain cells |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by evilapc: 6:37pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Scholar8200:God did not save all for Jesus obedience. ..Jesus said, His father will bring to him those who are for him...Jesus made it clear that there are chosen FEW people for him |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by UyiIredi(m): 6:38pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Aaronsrod: SMH. Just goes to show how Christianity thrives on fear and ignorance. |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by UyiIredi(m): 6:42pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
evilapc: Which further embellishes the notion that the Christian God is a moral failure. Partiality is wrong and so is despising people just because. BTW this by no means justifies the actions I stated. |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by evilapc: 6:43pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Aaronsrod:No, you get it all wrong... there are those your God already hate and made for dishonor... besides, the so called hell is meant to be filled with people. ... If you are among the lucky people of this world,.I urge you to always rejoice...that's just it... ..... nobody is more saint than the other, but some few people are very lucky in life, it doesn't matter if they do good or bad. |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by Scholar8200(m): 6:43pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
evilapc:alright |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by cloudgoddess(f): 7:38pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
Interesting... thought OP was Christian. Good points regardless. |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:29pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
UyiIredi: You are judging the Supreme Being by human moral standards Seems perfectly logical Anyway , this is a perfect rebuttal for this nonsense : https://www.nairaland.com/3031728/reasons-why-god-not-subject 1 Like |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by UyiIredi(m): 9:53pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Not just human moral standards but universal moral standards which also apply to God if he is good. To assert that God is not subject to his laws is absurd and inane because a good and responsible God will also uphold the same morals He expects His creations to uphold. To do otherwise would be hypocrisy as logicboy rightly observed. Look critically and objectively at the scenarios I presented. Would you tolerate such actions if it were a human ? Or indeed another deity such as Allah ? To defend such egregious actions which I have no doubt you would not commit if put in God's place tells me that it is your religious bias which blinds you to the immorality of such acts. Frankly speaking, it's nothing less than tragic. |
| Re: The Christian God Is A Moral Failure by jonbellion(m): 10:15pm On Nov 07, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:hmm I checked the link to see Sooo lemme get this straight you're basically saying -morality comes from god(an assumption) -so i guess this should mean Gods actions are a reflections of the preached morality. -but yahweh violates his own moral code. Killing is wrong but it's justifiable when God does it This is special pleading at its finest and most subtle.If we can judge God to be inconsistent with and within his own morality then he is not a reflection of that morality cuz it is not a reflection of what he preached Since the Abrahamic God is inconsistent with even the most basic of his own moral code he is likely not the founder of morality. The concept of morality is above him. In other words his morality is arbitrary Since he violates his own codes most of the time not for any justifiable reason he is basically a dick If you are saying morality comes from God that means morality is God Right and wrong has always existed cuz God has always existed and is absolutely moral. Therefore morality is a fundental property It can't change. But it did. Drastically in the new testament. An all knowing entity is basically perfect and doesn't need any adjustment whatsoever. If you say he "changed" you are contradicting his omniscience and perfection. After all "he is the same yesterday today and forever" At least you guys like saying the bible is infallible and that very statement was taken from it. Gnostic thiests don't want to accept this anyway. Lets say i breed ants. They have emotions. They feel pain and joy. They share ideas. Some even start worshipping me It basically means i can do whatever i want with them. I can piss on them, light them on fire and kill them in soooo many creative ways. But it'll be okay cuz i made them so I'm not a total dick for messing them up like that Lol are you serious Lol since God defines morality it is arbitrary Don't you remember the golden calf incident when God wanted to destroy all the Israelites but was talked out of it by Moses Do you want to say that wasn't arbitrary  . If Moses knew that was wrong that should really tell you something about the arbitrariness of Gods killing and so called moral foundationSentencing the entire human race to death because of Adam is arbitrary Abeg how do gnostic thiests have mouth to decry the holocaust sef They would basically support it if God commanded it. If God is morality then morality is a fundamental property Since God is perfect his morality is perfect Which means.... Everything in the old testament applies now Jesus didn't change jacksh*t Dude morality is universal. Yahweh is simply a horrible messanger. There is no justifiable reason for punishing an entire human race because of the sins of one man Kim jong un does a similar punishment in north Korea Changing the name to God just to justify such an act is useless You gnostic thiests can't just eat your cake and have it too nawa oo wetin dey do una You claim Gods morality is perfect and then since God has always been and his morality is a fundamental property it is not subject to any adjusemt or change(which isn't even true cuz in the old testament he was assigning rules upandan completely arbitrarily) Then you now want to counter this with jesus Lol comedy 2 Likes |
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