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Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch: 6:56pm On Mar 15, 2017
JMAN05:


Still out of the point. Someone can perform miracle without Gods backing. That's the point.
See if you can understand the meaning of these scriptures?

Here the mighty Jesus again explains why the miracles and deliverances bear witness that it is all God sent. He rightly refers to the great John the baptist.

Joh 5:35 John was a burning and a shining light: and you were willing for a season to rejoice in his light.

Joh 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the miracles/ WORKS which the Father has given me to finish, the same miracles/ WORKS that I do, bear witness for me, that the Father hath sent me.





blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye
Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch: 7:09pm On Mar 15, 2017
Jesus himself said Satan will not work against himself. (Read the holy scriptures)

Anyone using Demonic/Satanic power cannot deliver a person from evil spirits.

Anyone using Demonic/Satanic power cannot make the blind see or the deaf hear. (recorded history proves that only Jesus can do it)

Medical science is a demonic scam ! Thousands of people testify to the way doctors/specialists have failed to heal them after taking all their money.

Psychology and Psychiatry are the most dangerous demonic scam against humanity. No one is healed. (Do your own research)





blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye
Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by Nobody: 3:03pm On Mar 16, 2017
ScienceWatch:
See if you can understand the meaning of these scriptures?

Here the mighty Jesus again explains why the miracles and deliverances bear witness that it is all God sent. He rightly refers to the great John the baptist.

Joh 5:35 John was a burning and a shining light: and you were willing for a season to rejoice in his light.

Joh 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the miracles/ WORKS which the Father has given me to finish, the same miracles/ WORKS that I do, bear witness for me, that the Father hath sent me.
blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye

I ve not argued that as at the first century, when the congregation/church was in its infancy, that miracle was not a proof of God's backing. It was, it was ONE of the way God showed that he had shifted His attention from the then Jewich system to the Christian Congregation.

However, this miracle was essential in its infancy, not when the 'church' is grown as it were. 1cor 13:8-13. Neither does such miracles indicate that demons cannot perform such miracles, even in Christ's name. I have given a scripture for this position. John the baptist who bore witness about Jesus himself didnt perform any such miracle as Jesus did. This didnt mean his works were wicked.

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Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by Nobody: 3:14pm On Mar 16, 2017
ScienceWatch:
Jesus himself said Satan will not work against himself. (Read the holy scriptures)

Anyone using Demonic/Satanic power cannot deliver a person from evil spirits.

Anyone using Demonic/Satanic power cannot make the blind see or the deaf hear. (recorded history proves that only Jesus can do it)

Medical science is a demonic scam ! Thousands of people testify to the way doctors/specialists have failed to heal them after taking all their money.

Psychology and Psychiatry are the most dangerous demonic scam against humanity. No one is healed. (Do your own research)





blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye

Satan is not working against himself by casting away demons, he is rather perpetuating a fraud. (2cor 11:14). Jesus statement cannot be understood that way. Jesus was in effect stating that Satan cannot employ him, give him power to perform miracle because, he Jesus is on a mission to end the works of the devil. If satan does so, he would be divided against himself. His kingdom will fall. You can only use someone who is on ur side for your deception, not someone against u.

Jesus meant his word when he said that people will cast demons using his name, yet he is not their backer.

If you ve not known, you should have atleast heard in nigeria, where different witch doctors would fight against each other for there individual clients. The devil will approve this to advance his fraud, not that he doesnt know what he is doing.

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Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by Nobody: 3:36pm On Mar 16, 2017
ScienceWatch:
Right, you say the girl did not complain.
Please let us know if the girl said she was happy ?

Also kindly let us know how to identify a true pastor ?


blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye

Read that Acts 16:16-17 and see if someone who was advancing other people's business (no doubt the business men would be happy when she does this) will not start to feel unhappy. why? dont you think that she would earn a fortune from the venture?

2. Jesus statement reviewed the true identity of a man of God. He stated there that such one does the will of God. Matt 7:21

He will go forth, not stay in a pulpit, and do what Jesus did, preach. matt 28:19-20.

He should not be called pastor. no such titile should he bear. It would be a stretch for him to be called "Daddy". Matt 23:8-10

He should not assume a position of spiritual head. nope, that is occupied by christ alone. matt 23:10-11. Eph 5:23

The shepherding of the church is not occupied by one man called pastor, they should be many shepherds/pastors overseeing the running of the church, all having equal right. 1Pet 5:2: Acts 20:28

They should meet the qualifications outlined at 1tim 3:1-7. none of such should be there weakness.

Their teachings should be based on the bible, not man made rules. John 17:17.

Though 'pastors', they are not more important than the flock they shepherd. They should rather be least of the church. Those special treatment of calling daddy, wearing special garment is rubbish. matt 23:11, 12. james 2:1-4

Let me stop here for now.

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Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch: 11:29am On Mar 20, 2017
JMAN05:


Read that Acts 16:16-17 and see if someone who was advancing other people's business (no doubt the business men would be happy when she does this) will not start to feel unhappy. why? dont you think that she would earn a fortune from the venture?

2. Jesus statement reviewed the true identity of a man of God. He stated there that such one does the will of God. Matt 7:21

He will go forth, not stay in a pulpit, and do what Jesus did, preach. matt 28:19-20.

He should not be called pastor. no such titile should he bear. It would be a stretch for him to be called "Daddy". Matt 23:8-10

He should not assume a position of spiritual head. nope, that is occupied by christ alone. matt 23:10-11. Eph 5:23

The shepherding of the church is not occupied by one man called pastor, they should be many shepherds/pastors overseeing the running of the church, all having equal right. 1Pet 5:2: Acts 20:28

They should meet the qualifications outlined at 1tim 3:1-7. none of such should be there weakness.

Their teachings should be based on the bible, not man made rules. John 17:17.

Though 'pastors', they are not more important than the flock they shepherd. They should rather be least of the church. Those special treatment of calling daddy, wearing special garment is rubbish. matt 23:11, 12. james 2:1-4

Let me stop here for now.
Well written sir !
If you dont mind, we should examine the scripture you pointed to Mat 28:19
In this scripture the mighty Jesus clearly says, "Go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: I see you wrongly emphasize "teach" only. This is the great deception !
This command Jesus gave after the resurrection, so He instructed them to teach and baptize. Not the baptism done in thousands of church where there is no power. When you have authority to baptize, the Holy Ghost fills the person that is baptized with POWER. POWER to heal. POWER to deliver. POWER to bless.

Do you see that power when todays fake pastors/disciples do baptism ? No No ! Many scriptures can be extracted to suit our own agender.

Actions speak louder than words. Talk is cheap ! Fake pastors always claim that miracles were only for the 1st century to deceive the people and cover up their own weakness.

That is why the mighty Jesus said in John 14:12 A Disciple/pastor, minister will be known by their WORKS which is without any doubt the combination of miracles, signs and wonders) so that fake pastors can be separated from the real pastors. The wheat is separated from the chaff.

Jesus himself said in John 17:18 What I was sent into the world to do, I also send them(Disciples/pastors) into the world to do the same.

John 5:20 For the true God loves the Son, and shows Him all miracles that He does: and He will show me greater miracles/WORKS than these, so that you may be amazed and believe.



It is plain madness to believe that god stopped all the miracles 2000 years ago because we dont need it any longer !

The evidence of the true love of God's miracles in the holy Scoan Church Nigeria, increase faith that lead to salvation of ones soul.
Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch: 12:47pm On Mar 20, 2017
JMAN05:


Satan is not working against himself by casting away demons, he is rather perpetuating a fraud. (2cor 11:14). Jesus statement cannot be understood that way. Jesus was in effect stating that Satan cannot employ him, give him power to perform miracle because, he Jesus is on a mission to end the works of the devil. If satan does so, he would be divided against himself. His kingdom will fall. You can only use someone who is on ur side for your deception, not someone against u.

Jesus meant his word when he said that people will cast demons using his name, yet he is not their backer.

If you ve not known, you should have atleast heard in nigeria, where different witch doctors would fight against each other for there individual clients. The devil will approve this to advance his fraud, not that he doesnt know what he is doing.
Satan can not work against his plan to destroy all that is good in life.

Do you research ! Dont interpret scripture only from your own understanding. This is a dangerous habit that FAKE pastor have.

Go and find just one spiritualist[/b]and ask if the people are healed or blessed. If the spiritualist is honest, He/she will say that it only seems to work for a short time and then the persons problems is worst than before. They will also have more demonic spirits active in their life which increase every time they go for more help. Satan can not help us. That is not his work.

[b]I agree with you
that Satan can appear as a spirit of light in the same way a fake pastor can appear as true pastor to ignorant worshippers.

Thank God that a FAKE pastor can never do what a truly anointed pastor can do.

Jesus said that we will know a true pastor by his WORKS.

What are these WORKS ? Please dont say teaching / Talking !
Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch: 12:55pm On Mar 20, 2017
JMAN05:


Satan is not working against himself by casting away demons, he is rather perpetuating a fraud. (2cor 11:14). Jesus statement cannot be understood that way. Jesus was in effect stating that Satan cannot employ him, give him power to perform miracle because, he Jesus is on a mission to end the works of the devil. If satan does so, he would be divided against himself. His kingdom will fall. You can only use someone who is on ur side for your deception, not someone against u.

Jesus meant his word when he said that people will cast demons using his name, yet he is not their backer.

If you ve not known, you should have atleast heard in nigeria, where different witch doctors would fight against each other for there individual clients. The devil will approve this to advance his fraud, not that he doesnt know what he is doing.
Why do you repeat the same deception over and over ?

You know that the FAKE Jewish pastors said to Jesus that He is casting out/ delivering the demons by Satanic means.

What did Jesus say to those FAKE Jewish pastors ? Now why do you continue to use scriptures in a contradictory manner ?

You are a prime suspect for Atheism.
Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch: 1:06pm On Mar 20, 2017
JMAN05:


Read that Acts 16:16-17 and see if someone who was advancing other people's business (no doubt the business men would be happy when she does this) will not start to feel unhappy. why? dont you think that she would earn a fortune from the venture?

2. Jesus statement reviewed the true identity of a man of God. He stated there that such one does the will of God. Matt 7:21

He will go forth, not stay in a pulpit, and do what Jesus did, preach. matt 28:19-20.

He should not be called pastor. no such titile should he bear. It would be a stretch for him to be called "Daddy". Matt 23:8-10

He should not assume a position of spiritual head. nope, that is occupied by christ alone. matt 23:10-11. Eph 5:23

The shepherding of the church is not occupied by one man called pastor, they should be many shepherds/pastors overseeing the running of the church, all having equal right. 1Pet 5:2: Acts 20:28

They should meet the qualifications outlined at 1tim 3:1-7. none of such should be there weakness.

Their teachings should be based on the bible, not man made rules. John 17:17.

Though 'pastors', they are not more important than the flock they shepherd. They should rather be least of the church. Those special treatment of calling daddy, wearing special garment is rubbish. matt 23:11, 12. james 2:1-4

Let me stop here for now.
You always refer to the "Doing the will of the Father" but you dont bother to define it. Please define it so we can know what you mean.

When Jesus said the following in Mat 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven."

Jesus was simply stating a fact that we see every day. Many people shout Lord, Lord in church but they lives that contradict the "Will of the Father."

In the same way not every pastor is recognized in heaven because they dont do what Jesus commanded every pastor to do. That is heal, deliver and bless. It can never be done by a fake pastor.

The wheat is always separated from the Chaff. The FAKE pastors are now separated from the TRUE pastors.
Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch: 1:26pm On Mar 20, 2017
JMAN05:


I ve not argued that as at the first century, when the congregation/church was in its infancy, that miracle was not a proof of God's backing. It was, it was ONE of the way God showed that he had shifted His attention from the then Jewich system to the Christian Congregation.

However, this miracle was essential in its infancy, not when the 'church' is grown as it were. 1cor 13:8-13. Neither does such miracles indicate that demons cannot perform such miracles, even in Christ's name. I have given a scripture for this position. John the baptist who bore witness about Jesus himself didnt perform any such miracle as Jesus did. This didnt mean his works were wicked.



Something important must be considered here. You say that the miracles Jesus and his pastors/disciples did was "ONE of the ways God showed that he had shifted His attention from the then Jewish system to the Christian Congregation."

How did you come to that terrible conclusion ?

You go on to claim that, "the miracles was essential in the churches infancy, but not when the 'church' is grown up."

I am grieved now !
How did you come to that shocking conclusion ?

I sense that you wish to continue and grieve the Holy Ghost in this matter when you contradict what the mighty Jesus himself said.

But you insist in your folly when you say, "Neither does such miracles indicate that demons cannot perform such miracles, even in Christ's name."

Can you as a demon possessed person really deliver evil spirits in the name of Jesus ?

How do you come to your conclusions ?

Help me understand.

blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye

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Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by oaroloye(m): 3:57pm On Mar 20, 2017
SHALOM!

ScienceWatch:
Something important must be considered here. You say that the miracles Jesus and his pastors/disciples did was "ONE of the ways God showed that he had shifted His attention from the then Jewish system to the Christian Congregation."

This is a theory of pathetic Hypocrites who have no Miracles of their own.

How did you come to that terrible conclusion ?

You go on to claim that, "the miracles was essential in the churches infancy, but not when the 'church' is grown up."

I am grieved now !
How did you come to that shocking conclusion ?

THE GOSPEL, WHEN ENFORCED ON THE EARTH UPGRADES EARTHSPACE TO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

. 2nd CHRONICLES 16:9.

9. "For The Eyes of The LORD
run to and fro throughout the whole Earth,
to shew Himself strong in the behalf of them
whose heart is perfect toward Him.
Herein thou hast done foolishly:
therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars."


. ECCLESIASTES 8:2-5.

2. I counsel thee to keep the king's commandment,
and that in regard of the Oath of God.
3. Be not hasty to go out of his sight:
stand not in an evil thing;
for he doeth whatsoever pleaseth him.
4. Where the word of a King is, there is Power:
and who may say unto him,


"WHAT DOEST THOU?"

5. Whoso keepeth the commandment
shall feel no evil thing:
and a wise man's heart
discerneth both time and judgment.


. MATTHEW 12:28.

28. "But if I cast out Devils
by the Spirit of God,
then The Kingdom of God
is come unto you."


I sense that you wish to continue and grieve the Holy Ghost in this matter when you contradict what the mighty Jesus himself said.

You should understand that the FAKE CHURCHES, who do not Believe In The True Gospel cannot have The Power of God.

They have a CHOICE between letting themselves be EXPOSED as HYPOCRITES, or else SLANDERING and REVILING all Miracle-Workers as fakes.

Which do you think they would go for?

Take into consideration the fact that THEY DO NOT LOVE GOD, nor their NEIGHBOUR.

But you insist in your folly when you say, "Neither does such miracles indicate that demons cannot perform such miracles, even in Christ's name."

Can you as a demon possessed person really deliver evil spirits in the name of Jesus ?

First of all, what they are calling "CHRIST'S NAME" is a DECEPTION.

There was NO LETTER "J" until 400 years ago, so he could never have been named "JESUS."

Secondly, one of the indictments against TUBERCULOSIS JOSHUA is that HE DOES NOT call out "THE NAME OF JESUS" when he performs his miracles.

I do not know how far that is true, myself- but I believe it consistent with The Gospels.

Where did YAHSHUA ever call on the Name of his Father to perform any Miracle?

Therefore the same accusation was leveled against HIM.

How do you come to your conclusions ?

Help me understand.

blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye

He is just a puppet, parroting what he was taught to say!

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Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by Nobody: 3:03pm On Mar 26, 2017
ScienceWatch:
Something important must be considered here. You say that the miracles Jesus and his pastors/disciples did was "ONE of the ways God showed that he had shifted His attention from the then Jewish system to the Christian Congregation."

How did you come to that terrible conclusion ?

You go on to claim that, "the miracles was essential in the churches infancy, but not when the 'church' is grown up."

I am grieved now !
How did you come to that shocking conclusion ?

I sense that you wish to continue and grieve the Holy Ghost in this matter when you contradict what the mighty Jesus himself said.

But you insist in your folly when you say, "Neither does such miracles indicate that demons cannot perform such miracles, even in Christ's name."

Can you as a demon possessed person really deliver evil spirits in the name of Jesus ?

How do you come to your conclusions ?

Help me understand.

blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye

Oga, if you are not serious, let me know. I have been quoting the scriptures that support my point, and you keep asking how i reach the conclusion. Be serious dude!

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Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by Nobody: 3:48pm On Mar 26, 2017
ScienceWatch:
You always refer to the "Doing the will of the Father" but you dont bother to define it. Please define it so we can know what you mean.

When Jesus said the following in Mat 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven."

Jesus was simply stating a fact that we see every day. Many people shout Lord, Lord in church but they lives that contradict the "Will of the Father."

In the same way not every pastor is recognized in heaven because they dont do what Jesus commanded every pastor to do. That is heal, deliver and bless. It can never be done by a fake pastor.

The wheat is always separated from the Chaff. The FAKE pastors are now separated from the TRUE pastors.

All that God wants or what He requires from His servants are His will. Those who do what God requires, are doing His will. Read James 1:22; 1john 5:3; Rom 2:13. (Read them this time and stop asking me the basis for my conclusion).

I have posted from the scriptures what a good pastor/shepherd should be recognized with, did you read those or you just crossed over? Do you agree with what Gods word has to say on the matter?

2. You said that Jesus words implied that the pastors were not doing what a true pastor should do, heal, deliver and bless. Can I see where a scripture supports this as the identity of a true pastor?

Secondly, the persons who shout to Jesus stated that they healed and performed miracle in Christ's name. (Matt 7:21, 22) How would you reconcile that with the scriptures when in fact they said they performed miracles using Christ's name?

In other words, you said Christ commanded them to heal, and these people in matt 7:21,22 said they did that, even in Christ's name, so why would they be condemned? Haven't they done what a true pastor should do?

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Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by oaroloye(m): 11:59pm On Mar 26, 2017
ScienceWatch:
Find out Why it is impossible for Prophet TB Joshua to use demonic power to do healing and deliverance of evil spirits here;

Kwaku Bonsam's god is called Kofi Kofi. He claims that he gave thousands of Pastors healing and deliverance powers.

Well let see.

In a court of law, truth rules because God is truth. So a credible witness is very important.
Kwaku Bonsam's god is called Kofi Kofi. Kofi Kofi is a destructive demonic entity whose ruler is Satan.
Kofi Kofi is translated in Swahili as Liar Liar. Based on his history, can Kwaku Bonsam be
Accepted as a credible witness ? Can his claims be true or are there other hidden motives?

I AM NO FAN OF TUBERCULOSIS JOSHUA- let me say that up-front.

I have not studied his Ministry in any detail.

I have heard allegations against him- but I have heard nothing credible.

This allegation is credible to me, for certain technical reasons I will specify.

There are THREE MODES OF HUMAN AWARENESS:

1. FIRST ATTENTION: The Awareness of the Atheist- with no Spiritual Perception whatsoever.

2. SECOND ATTENTION: The Awareness of the Mortal Mystic.

3. THIRD ATTENTION: The Awareness of the Immortals- allowing them safe perception of what will kill Mortals.

IT IS HARD FOR THE LAZY, COWARDLY, OR SELF-IMPORTANT TO GET OUT OF FIRST ATTENTION.

They will not do what it takes.

Therefore, such people, wanting to be "MYSTIC MEN," look for SHORTCUTS.

DRUGS can enable one's ASSEMBLAGE POINT to MOVE ONCE- then, when it has returned to NORMAL, one uses WILLPOWER and DISCIPLINE to repeat the shift, and then find other Assemblage Points.

Many Oyinbos decided that DRUGS are essential to moving their Assemblage Points, and seek the sensations of the "TRIPS" for their own sake. This is damaging to their BODY, and can cause their untimely death.

A person whose ASSEMBLAGE POINT has moved can induce another person's Assemblage Point to move to match their's BY PHYSICAL CONTACT. As in LAYING-ON-OF-HANDS.

The person whose Assemblage Point has so moved STILL HAS A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF THEM.

They could not have done anything, without the "KICK-START" of the Layer-On-of-Hands.

But it could be UNFAIR for them to CLAIM ALL OF THE CREDIT.

Jesus said to these so-called holy men. “Satan can’t and will not work against himself."

That is not what Yahshua said.

. MATTHEW 12:22-37.

22. Then was brought unto him
one possessed with a Devil, blind, and dumb:
and he healed him,
insomuch that the blind and dumb
both spake and saw.
23. And all the people were amazed, and said,
"Is not this the son of David?"
24. But when the Pharisees heard it, they said,
"This fellow doth not cast out Devils,
but by Beelzebub the Prince of the Devils."
25. And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them,
"Every kingdom divided against itself
is brought to desolation;
and every city or house
divided against itself
shall not stand:
26. "And if Satan cast out Satan,
he is divided against himself;
how shall then his Kingdom stand?
27. "And if I by Beelzebub cast out Devils,
by whom do your children cast them out?
Therefore they shall be your judges.
28. "But if I cast out Devils
by The Spirit of God,
then The Kingdom of God is come unto you.
29. "Or else how can one
enter into a Strong Man's House,
and spoil his goods,
except he first bind the Strong Man?
And then he will spoil his House.
30. "He that is not with me is against me;
and he that gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad.
31. "Wherefore I say unto you,


'ALL MANNER OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY
SHALL BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN:
BUT THE BLASPHEMY
AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST
SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN.'


32. "And whosoever speaketh
a Word against The Son of Man,
it shall be forgiven him:
but whosoever speaketh
against the Holy Ghost,
it shall not be forgiven him,
neither in this World,
neither in the World to come.
33. "Either make the tree good,
and his fruit good;
or else make the tree corrupt,
and his fruit corrupt:
for the tree is known by his fruit.
34. "O Generation of Vipers,
how can ye, being Evil,
speak Good Things?
For out of the Abundance of the heart
the mouth speaketh.
35. "A Good Man
out of the Good Treasure of the heart
bringeth forth Good Things:
and an Evil Man
out of the Evil Treasure
bringeth forth Evil Things.
36.But I say unto you,


'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD
THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK,
THEY SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT THEREOF
IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.'


37. "For by thy Words thou shalt be Justified,
and by thy Words thou shalt be Condemned."


HE MERELY SAID THAT IF SATAN IS CASTING OUT SATAN, HIS "KINGDOM COME" IS NOW "KINGDOM DONE!"

So, if the DEVILS are now playing "MUSICAL-CHAIRS" with one another, it is because their Kingdom is FINISHED.

What does all this mean?
Even if a so-called respected but false pastor/Bishop/Prophet/Clergyman try to heal or do demon deliverance, it can’t and won’t work. Satan can’t and won’t work against himself.

KENNETH ERWIN HAGIN taught me everything I know about FAITH.

He had a UNIQUE HEALING POWER, given to him by Jesus in front of the THRONE OF GOD in Heaven.

This Power ONLY Healed those who HEARD Hus Testimony of going to Heaven with Jesus, AND BELIEVED IT.

There was a time when he stopped Healing with that Gift, to lay more emphasis on THE BIBLE.

He slipped and fell, and fractured his arm.

"JESUS" walked audibly and tangibly into his hospital ward, and informed him that HE HAD ALLOWED the accident to PUNISH him for NOT USING THE VISION! THEREFORE, "JESUS" told him, his arm would NEVER be 100% again!

He would, however, accelerate his Healing better than Doctors expected.

They told him that he would NEVER be able to touch his shoulder on that arm- but he did.

A Brethren who went to his CAMPMEETING heard a side to the Testimony that was not in the BOOKS, nor the TAPES:

Whenever he was hpgetting out if the "PERFECT WILL OF GOD," he would know, because HIS ARM WOULD BEGIN TO HURT HIM!

The more I thought about it, the more it seemed to me: "THAT IS NOT THE JESUS OF THE BIBLE!"

Finally we all have loads of scientifically verifiable evidence coming out of Scoan Church Nigeria that proves the holy Gospels and the Holy Books of Acts to be accurate. Truth seekers are eternally grateful to a humble servant of the true GOD, Prophet TB Joshua.

THE BOOK OF ACTS 5:2-11 IS NOT HOLY.
Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch: 1:39pm On Mar 30, 2017
oaroloye:


I AM NO FAN OF TUBERCULOSIS JOSHUA- let me say that up-front.

I have not studied his Ministry in any detail.

I have heard allegations against him- but I have heard nothing credible.

This allegation is credible to me, for certain technical reasons I will specify.

There are THREE MODES OF HUMAN AWARENESS:

1. FIRST ATTENTION: The Awareness of the Atheist- with no Spiritual Perception whatsoever.

2. SECOND ATTENTION: The Awareness of the Mortal Mystic.

3. THIRD ATTENTION: The Awareness of the Immortals- allowing them safe perception of what will kill Mortals.

IT IS HARD FOR THE LAZY, COWARDLY, OR SELF-IMPORTANT TO GET OUT OF FIRST ATTENTION.

They will not do what it takes.

Therefore, such people, wanting to be "MYSTIC MEN," look for SHORTCUTS.

DRUGS can enable one's ASSEMBLAGE POINT to MOVE ONCE- then, when it has returned to NORMAL, one uses WILLPOWER and DISCIPLINE to repeat the shift, and then find other Assemblage Points.

Many Oyinbos decided that DRUGS are essential to moving their Assemblage Points, and seek the sensations of the "TRIPS" for their own sake. This is damaging to their BODY, and can cause their untimely death.

A person whose ASSEMBLAGE POINT has moved can induce another person's Assemblage Point to move to match their's BY PHYSICAL CONTACT. As in LAYING-ON-OF-HANDS.

The person whose Assemblage Point has so moved STILL HAS A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF THEM.

They could not have done anything, without the "KICK-START" of the Layer-On-of-Hands.

But it could be UNFAIR for them to CLAIM ALL OF THE CREDIT.



That is not what Yahshua said.

. MATTHEW 12:22-37.

22. Then was brought unto him
one possessed with a Devil, blind, and dumb:
and he healed him,
insomuch that the blind and dumb
both spake and saw.
23. And all the people were amazed, and said,
"Is not this the son of David?"
24. But when the Pharisees heard it, they said,
"This fellow doth not cast out Devils,
but by Beelzebub the Prince of the Devils."
25. And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them,
"Every kingdom divided against itself
is brought to desolation;
and every city or house
divided against itself
shall not stand:
26. "And if Satan cast out Satan,
he is divided against himself;
how shall then his Kingdom stand?
27. "And if I by Beelzebub cast out Devils,
by whom do your children cast them out?
Therefore they shall be your judges.
28. "But if I cast out Devils
by The Spirit of God,
then The Kingdom of God is come unto you.
29. "Or else how can one
enter into a Strong Man's House,
and spoil his goods,
except he first bind the Strong Man?
And then he will spoil his House.
30. "He that is not with me is against me;
and he that gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad.
31. "Wherefore I say unto you,


'ALL MANNER OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY
SHALL BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN:
BUT THE BLASPHEMY
AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST
SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN.'


32. "And whosoever speaketh
a Word against The Son of Man,
it shall be forgiven him:
but whosoever speaketh
against the Holy Ghost,
it shall not be forgiven him,
neither in this World,
neither in the World to come.
33. "Either make the tree good,
and his fruit good;
or else make the tree corrupt,
and his fruit corrupt:
for the tree is known by his fruit.
34. "O Generation of Vipers,
how can ye, being Evil,
speak Good Things?
For out of the Abundance of the heart
the mouth speaketh.
35. "A Good Man
out of the Good Treasure of the heart
bringeth forth Good Things:
and an Evil Man
out of the Evil Treasure
bringeth forth Evil Things.
36.But I say unto you,


'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD
THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK,
THEY SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT THEREOF
IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.'


37. "For by thy Words thou shalt be Justified,
and by thy Words thou shalt be Condemned."


HE MERELY SAID THAT IF SATAN IS CASTING OUT SATAN, HIS "KINGDOM COME" IS NOW "KINGDOM DONE!"

So, if the DEVILS are now playing "MUSICAL-CHAIRS" with one another, it is because their Kingdom is FINISHED.



KENNETH ERWIN HAGIN taught me everything I know about FAITH.

He had a UNIQUE HEALING POWER, given to him by Jesus in front of the THRONE OF GOD in Heaven.

This Power ONLY Healed those who HEARD Hus Testimony of going to Heaven with Jesus, AND BELIEVED IT.

There was a time when he stopped Healing with that Gift, to lay more emphasis on THE BIBLE.

He slipped and fell, and fractured his arm.

"JESUS" walked audibly and tangibly into his hospital ward, and informed him that HE HAD ALLOWED the accident to PUNISH him for NOT USING THE VISION! THEREFORE, "JESUS" told him, his arm would NEVER be 100% again!

He would, however, accelerate his Healing better than Doctors expected.

They told him that he would NEVER be able to touch his shoulder on that arm- but he did.

A Brethren who went to his CAMPMEETING heard a side to the Testimony that was not in the BOOKS, nor the TAPES:

Whenever he was hpgetting out if the "PERFECT WILL OF GOD," he would know, because HIS ARM WOULD BEGIN TO HURT HIM!

The more I thought about it, the more it seemed to me: "THAT IS NOT THE JESUS OF THE BIBLE!"



THE BOOK OF ACTS 5:2-11 IS NOT HOLY.
Are you a member of the dreaded Jewish controlled PNF (Pentecostal Fellowship) ?
The PNF also rudely refer to the Holy Prophet TB Joshua the way you do. I wish to say from the start that I am not a fan of bronchitis ridden SCIENTOLOGY.

I have regrettably studied Scientology in detail and find all the accusations against it credible. This study was an extreme waste of my time. Scientology has nothing unique, just a load of copy and paste from older established doctrines, but with no POWER.

What is verifiable and most credible is Jesus' statement that you qoute in 26. "And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself;
how shall then his Kingdom stand?

You also wisely quote, "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation;
and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

A stunning statement made by the mighty Jesus to all pastors renders it impossible for a fake pastor to deceive a true Christian.
Jesus said, "As my Father sent me, so send I you." The great love of God for His creation is revealed through the healing, deliverance and blessing combined.

Only satanic fake pastors will insist that grand speeches is what the mighty Jesus commanded them to give to the suffering masses.

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Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch: 2:08pm On Mar 30, 2017
oaroloye:


I AM NO FAN OF TUBERCULOSIS JOSHUA- let me say that up-front.

I have not studied his Ministry in any detail.

I have heard allegations against him- but I have heard nothing credible.

This allegation is credible to me, for certain technical reasons I will specify.

There are THREE MODES OF HUMAN AWARENESS:

1. FIRST ATTENTION: The Awareness of the Atheist- with no Spiritual Perception whatsoever.

2. SECOND ATTENTION: The Awareness of the Mortal Mystic.

3. THIRD ATTENTION: The Awareness of the Immortals- allowing them safe perception of what will kill Mortals.

IT IS HARD FOR THE LAZY, COWARDLY, OR SELF-IMPORTANT TO GET OUT OF FIRST ATTENTION.

They will not do what it takes.

Therefore, such people, wanting to be "MYSTIC MEN," look for SHORTCUTS.

DRUGS can enable one's ASSEMBLAGE POINT to MOVE ONCE- then, when it has returned to NORMAL, one uses WILLPOWER and DISCIPLINE to repeat the shift, and then find other Assemblage Points.

Many Oyinbos decided that DRUGS are essential to moving their Assemblage Points, and seek the sensations of the "TRIPS" for their own sake. This is damaging to their BODY, and can cause their untimely death.

A person whose ASSEMBLAGE POINT has moved can induce another person's Assemblage Point to move to match their's BY PHYSICAL CONTACT. As in LAYING-ON-OF-HANDS.

The person whose Assemblage Point has so moved STILL HAS A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF THEM.

They could not have done anything, without the "KICK-START" of the Layer-On-of-Hands.

But it could be UNFAIR for them to CLAIM ALL OF THE CREDIT.



That is not what Yahshua said.

. MATTHEW 12:22-37.

22. Then was brought unto him
one possessed with a Devil, blind, and dumb:
and he healed him,
insomuch that the blind and dumb
both spake and saw.
23. And all the people were amazed, and said,
"Is not this the son of David?"
24. But when the Pharisees heard it, they said,
"This fellow doth not cast out Devils,
but by Beelzebub the Prince of the Devils."
25. And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them,
"Every kingdom divided against itself
is brought to desolation;
and every city or house
divided against itself
shall not stand:
26. "And if Satan cast out Satan,
he is divided against himself;
how shall then his Kingdom stand?
27. "And if I by Beelzebub cast out Devils,
by whom do your children cast them out?
Therefore they shall be your judges.
28. "But if I cast out Devils
by The Spirit of God,
then The Kingdom of God is come unto you.
29. "Or else how can one
enter into a Strong Man's House,
and spoil his goods,
except he first bind the Strong Man?
And then he will spoil his House.
30. "He that is not with me is against me;
and he that gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad.
31. "Wherefore I say unto you,


'ALL MANNER OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY
SHALL BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN:
BUT THE BLASPHEMY
AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST
SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN.'


32. "And whosoever speaketh
a Word against The Son of Man,
it shall be forgiven him:
but whosoever speaketh
against the Holy Ghost,
it shall not be forgiven him,
neither in this World,
neither in the World to come.
33. "Either make the tree good,
and his fruit good;
or else make the tree corrupt,
and his fruit corrupt:
for the tree is known by his fruit.
34. "O Generation of Vipers,
how can ye, being Evil,
speak Good Things?
For out of the Abundance of the heart
the mouth speaketh.
35. "A Good Man
out of the Good Treasure of the heart
bringeth forth Good Things:
and an Evil Man
out of the Evil Treasure
bringeth forth Evil Things.
36.But I say unto you,


'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD
THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK,
THEY SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT THEREOF
IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.'


37. "For by thy Words thou shalt be Justified,
and by thy Words thou shalt be Condemned."


HE MERELY SAID THAT IF SATAN IS CASTING OUT SATAN, HIS "KINGDOM COME" IS NOW "KINGDOM DONE!"

So, if the DEVILS are now playing "MUSICAL-CHAIRS" with one another, it is because their Kingdom is FINISHED.



KENNETH ERWIN HAGIN taught me everything I know about FAITH.

He had a UNIQUE HEALING POWER, given to him by Jesus in front of the THRONE OF GOD in Heaven.

This Power ONLY Healed those who HEARD Hus Testimony of going to Heaven with Jesus, AND BELIEVED IT.

There was a time when he stopped Healing with that Gift, to lay more emphasis on THE BIBLE.

He slipped and fell, and fractured his arm.

"JESUS" walked audibly and tangibly into his hospital ward, and informed him that HE HAD ALLOWED the accident to PUNISH him for NOT USING THE VISION! THEREFORE, "JESUS" told him, his arm would NEVER be 100% again!

He would, however, accelerate his Healing better than Doctors expected.

They told him that he would NEVER be able to touch his shoulder on that arm- but he did.

A Brethren who went to his CAMPMEETING heard a side to the Testimony that was not in the BOOKS, nor the TAPES:

Whenever he was hpgetting out if the "PERFECT WILL OF GOD," he would know, because HIS ARM WOULD BEGIN TO HURT HIM!

The more I thought about it, the more it seemed to me: "THAT IS NOT THE JESUS OF THE BIBLE!"



THE BOOK OF ACTS 5:2-11 IS NOT HOLY.
Why do you insist on dealing with lofty spiritual things like a child that hate discipline ?
Whether you want to enter deeper into the Dark side or the Light side, there is a heavy price to pay.

Your claim that the Book of Acts is not Holy because of your faulty interpretation of ACTS 5:2-11 is extremely childish.

The book of Acts is holy ! See the definition of holy below ;

adjective : dedicated or consecrated to God or a religious purpose; sacred. "the Holy Bible"
synonyms: sacred, consecrated, hallowed, sanctified, venerated, revered, reverenced, divine, religious, blessed, blessed, dedicated

Act 4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
Act 4:35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
Act 5:1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
Act 5:2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part.

These two people made a promise to God, then they did what too many people do when they think no one is watching.

It is sobering to know that God saw fit to strike this sinful couple down for the benefit of those that gave what they cherished most toward the greatest mission in the world.



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Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch: 2:27pm On Mar 30, 2017
JMAN05:


All that God wants or what He requires from His servants are His will. Those who do what God requires, are doing His will. Read James 1:22; 1john 5:3; Rom 2:13. (Read them this time and stop asking me the basis for my conclusion).

I have posted from the scriptures what a good pastor/shepherd should be recognized with, did you read those or you just crossed over? Do you agree with what Gods word has to say on the matter?

2. You said that Jesus words implied that the pastors were not doing what a true pastor should do, heal, deliver and bless. Can I see where a scripture supports this as the identity of a true pastor?

Secondly, the persons who shout to Jesus stated that they healed and performed miracle in Christ's name. (Matt 7:21, 22) How would you reconcile that with the scriptures when in fact they said they performed miracles using Christ's name?

In other words, you said Christ commanded them to heal, and these people in matt 7:21,22 said they did that, even in Christ's name, so why would they be condemned? Haven't they done what a true pastor should do?
Let us cut to the chase, and not mice words !

Jesus said, "As my Father sent me, so send I you, "

It is the will of the Father/God that all that comes to the Messiah is healed, delivered and blessed. All these things are part and parcel of God's promises, This is the unified GOSPEL !

The Gospel is not what FAKE pastors are serving their innocent congregations. FAKE pastors only have words to give to the suffering at a very high financial cost.

Who would prefer a course on the theory of Cooking over a practical Cooking course ?

Who would prefer a 5 year course on the theory of Motor Mechanics over a five year practical course ?

Who would prefer a three year degree in Theology/ theory over a 3 year practical course in healing, deliverance and blessing ?

Jesus gave his disciples a practical course in healing, deliverance and blessing.




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Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch: 2:46pm On Mar 30, 2017
JMAN05:


Oga, if you are not serious, let me know. I have been quoting the scriptures that support my point, and you keep asking how i reach the conclusion. Be serious dude!
Yes I am serious ! You loose focus when you confuse the commands Jesus gave to his pastors/disciples and the teachings he shared with the masses.

Would you have the same discussions with your general workers that you have with your management team ?

Oaroloye sums up the question about demonic healing and deliverance up very neatly ;

And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them,
"Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation;

and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

26. "And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself;
how shall then his Kingdom stand?

Wow, this puts and end to the many false doctrines designed by FAKE pastors to block those that want to enter into the LIGHT, from entering because those pastors themselves have not entered.



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Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by oaroloye(m): 6:43pm On Mar 30, 2017
SHALOM!

ScienceWatch:
Yes I am serious ! You loose focus when you confuse the commands Jesus gave to his pastors/disciples and the teachings he shared with the masses.

Pardon me, but there is no such thing as "Confusing Commands Yahshua (there was never any "JESUS;" the letter "J" did not even exist, until 400 years ago, according to the Hebrew Israelites- whom I believe on this).

How could Yahshua possibly Command the people to do one thing, but his Disciples another?

. MATTHEW 28:16-20.

16. Then the eleven Disciples
went away into Galilee,
into a mountain
where Jesus had appointed them.
17. And when they saw him,
they worshipped him:
but some doubted.
18. And Jesus came
and spake unto them,
saying,
"All Power is given unto me
in Heaven and in Earth.
19. "Go ye therefore,
and Teach all nations,
baptizing them
in The Name of the Father,
and of the Son,
and of the Holy Ghost:
20. "Teaching them to observe
all things whatsoever
I have Commanded you:
and, lo,
I am with you alway,
even unto The End of The World." Amen.


. JOHN 17:20-23.

20. "Neither pray I for these alone,
but for them also which shall believe on me
through their Word;
21. "That they all may be One;
as Thou, Father, art in me,
and I in Thee,
that they also may be
One in us:
that the World may believe
that Thou hast sent me.
22. "And the Glory
Which thou gavest me
I have given them;
that they may be One,
even as we are One:
23. "I in them, and Thou in me,
that they may be made Perfect in One;
and that the World may know
that Thou hast sent me,
and hast loved them,
as Thou hast loved me."


Would you have the same discussions with your general workers that you have with your management team ?

It doesn't matter: YAHSHUA IS LORD OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD- not an Earthly Kingdom.

. ISAIAH 55:6-11./color[]

[color=#990000]6. Seek ye The LORD
while He may be found,
call ye upon Him
while He is near:
7. Let the Wicked forsake his Way,
and the Unrighteous man his Thoughts:
and let him return unto The LORD,
and He will have Mercy upon him;
and to our God,
for He will Abundantly Pardon.


8. "FOR MY THOUGHTS
ARE NOT YOUR THOUGHTS,
NEITHER ARE YOUR WAYS MY WAYS,"
SAITH THE LORD.
9. "FOR AS THE HEAVENS
ARE HIGHER THAN THE EARTH,
SO ARE MY WAYS
HIGHER THAN YOUR WAYS,
AND MY THOUGHTS
THAN YOUR THOUGHTS.
10. "FOR AS THE RAIN COMETH DOWN,
AND THE SNOW FROM HEAVEN,
AND RETURNETH NOT THITHER,
BUT WATERETH THE EARTH,
AND MAKETH IT
BRING FORTH AND BUD,
THAT IT MAY GIVE SEED
TO THE SOWER,
AND BREAD TO THE EATER:
11. "SO SHALL MY WORD BE
THAT GOETH FORTH
OUT OF MY MOUTH:
IT SHALL NOT
RETURN UNTO ME VOID,
BUT IT SHALL ACCOMPLISH
THAT WHICH I PLEASE,
AND IT SHALL PROSPER
IN THE THING
WHERETO I SENT IT."


Maybe that style of management is why Nigerian Infrastructure is going down the tubes, so to speak?

I cannot conceive of any sort of organization that would instruct its management differently than its "grunt workers," and continue to thrive..."

"The Junior Staff must pay for every Coke and Coffee- but you the Management can get yours' for free!"

"Junior Staff must report for duty on time- or else! Managers can clock in any time you feel like it, and go home whenever you like!"

How has that worked out for us?

Oaroloye sums up the question about demonic healing and deliverance up very neatly ;

[b]And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them,

"Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation;

and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

26. "And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself;
how shall then his Kingdom stand?[/b]

What you think Yahshua was doing- having different instructions and teachings for his Disciples, than what he told those not following him is exactly what he was talking about there!

. LUKE 12:1-3.

IN the mean time,
when there were gathered together
an innumerable multitude of people,
insomuch that they trode
one upon another,
he began to say unto his Disciples
first of all,
"Beware ye of the Leaven of the Pharisees,
which is Hypocrisy.
2. "For there is nothing covered,
that shall not be revealed;
neither hid,
that shall not be known.
3. "Therefore whatsoever
ye have spoken in darkness
shall be heard in the light;
and that which ye have
spoken in the ear in closets
shall be proclaimed
upon the housetops."


DID HE NOT INDICT THE PHARISEES FOR THAT SAME HYPOCRISY?

. MATTHEW 23:1-4.

THEN spake Jesus to the multitude,
and to his Disciples,
2. Saying,
"The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe,
that observe and do;
but do not ye after their works:
for they say,
and do not.
4. "For they bind heavy burdens
and grievous to be borne,
and lay them on men's shoulders;
but they themselves
will not move them
with one of their fingers.


Wow, this puts and end to the many false doctrines designed by FAKE pastors to block those that want to enter into the LIGHT, from entering because those pastors themselves have not entered.

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Yeah... the Hypocrites are always the OTHER guys...!
Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by oaroloye(m): 8:57pm On Mar 30, 2017
SHALOM!

ScienceWatch:
Why do you insist on dealing with lofty spiritual things like a child that hate discipline ?
Whether you want to enter deeper into the Dark side or the Light side, there is a heavy price to pay.

You pompously presume that you know what you are talking about.

Whereas, you talk like an adult who grew up as a child who hated discipline.

Your claim that the Book of Acts is not Holy because of your faulty interpretation of ACTS 5:2-11 is extremely childish.

I believe that The Holy Ghost left the Building at that juncture.

Whatever Religion they were practicing, it was no longer CHRISTIANITY.

. LUKE 9:51-56.

51. And it came to pass,
when the time was come
that he should be received up,
he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem,
52. And sent messengers before his face:
and they went,
and entered into a village of the Samaritans,
to make ready for him.
53. And they did not receive him,
because his face was as though
he would go to Jerusalem.
54. And when his Disciples James and John saw this,
they said,
"Lord, wilt thou that we
command Fire to come down from Heaven,
and consume them,
even as Elias did?"
55. But he turned,
and rebuked them,
and said,
"Ye know not
what manner of spirit ye are of.
56. "For the Son of Man
is not come to destroy men's lives,
but to save them."
And they went to another village.


The book of Acts is holy ! See the definition of holy below ;

adjective : dedicated or consecrated to God or a religious purpose; sacred. "the Holy Bible"
synonyms: sacred, consecrated, hallowed, sanctified, venerated, revered, reverenced, divine, religious, blessed, blessed, dedicated

Your Dictionary is WRONG: the authors and publishers did not know what they were talking about- because they did not have "HOLINESS" in their own Church- presuming that they have a church.

. REVELATION 22:11.

11. "He that is UNJUST,
let him be Unjust still:
and he which is FILTHY,
let him be Filthy still:
and he that is RIGHTEOUS,
let him be Righteous still:
and he that is HOLY,
let him be Holy still."


HOLINESS IS AN INTENSITY OF SPIRITUAL ENERGY- THE ABILITY TO DO SPIRITUAL WORKS.

There are FOUR such intensities- as seen by SEERS, who have the Power to not only see Spiritual Energies, but also differentiate between the various types. This is attained by extreme Discipline and Dedication.

SPIRITUAL ENERGY IS LIFE.

There are EIGHT LEVELS of it.

The Earth has the lowest level- which pertains to the Animals, Plants, and Insects of the Earth.

The seven Heaven Universes each have their own level, and their own Spirit of God Which pertains to that Heaven, and is the Ruling Power over It.

These Spirits do not come to Earth, unless they are summoned there by the deployment of Heavenly Law.

. 2nd CHRONICLES 16:9.

9. "For The Eyes of The LORD
run to and fro throughout the whole Earth,
to shew Himself strong in the behalf of them
whose heart is perfect toward Him.
Herein thou hast done foolishly:
therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars."


. AMOS 3:3.

3. "Can two walk together,
except they be agreed?"


. ZECHARIAH 4:10.

10. For who hath despised the Day of small things?
for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet
in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven;
they are The Eyes of The LORD,
Which run to and fro through the whole Earth.


. REVELATION 4:5.

5. And out of The Throne proceeded
lightnings and thunderings and voices:
and there were seven Lamps of Fire
burning before The Throne,
which are The Seven Spirits of God.


THE OYINBO-FOLLOWERS HAVE NOT TAUGHT YOU ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE WHOEVER OF THEM KNOW ABOUT IT DO NOT TEACH IT PUBLICLY.

The Spirits must be acquired sequentially, or else you run the risk of rupturing your Soul Body.

. MATTHEW 9:16-17.

16. "No man putteth
a piece of new cloth
unto an old garment,
for that which is put in
to fill it up
taketh from the garment,
and the rent is made worse.
17. "Neither do men put new wine
into old bottles:
else the bottles break,
and the wine runneth out,
and the bottles perish:
but they put new wine
into new bottles,
and both are preserved."


THE INSANITY IN CHRISTIANITY IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO PEOPLE GETTING THE EIGHT SPIRITS MUDDLED UP- WHEREBY THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE THINKING, SAYING, NOR DOING- BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT EVERY WORD OF GOD IS EQUAL.

. 2nd PETER 1:5-9.

5. And beside this, giving all diligence,
add to your Faith Virtue;
and to virtue Knowledge;
6. And to knowledge Temperance;
and to temperance Patience;
and to patience Godliness;
7. And to godliness Brotherly Kindness;
and to brotherly kindness Charity.
8. For if these things be in you, and abound,
they make you that ye shall neither be
barren nor unfruitful in the Knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9. But he that lacketh these things is blind,
and cannot see afar off,
and hath forgotten
that he was purged from his old sins.


PETER CYNICALLY SHARED THIS WITH THE CHURCH, KNOWING THAT WE COULD NEVER ACHIEVE IT, BECAUSE HE WAS BLOCKING EVERYONE ELSE FROM KNOWING YAHSHUA'S TEACHINGS.

Act 4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
Act 4:35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

This violates the Commandments of Yahshua, which say:

. MATTHEW 6:1-4.

"TAKE heed that ye do not
your Alms before men,
to be seen of them:
otherwise ye have no Reward
of your Father
Which is in Heaven.
2. "Therefore when thou doest thine Alms,
do not sound a trumpet before thee,
as the Hypocrites do
in the synagogues and in the streets,
that they may have glory of men.
Verily I say unto you,


'THEY HAVE THEIR REWARD.'

3. "But when thou doest Alms,
let not thy left hand know
what thy right hand doeth:
4. "That thine Alms may be in Secret:
and thy Father
Which seeth in Secret Himself
shall Reward thee openly."


Act 5:1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
Act 5:2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part.

This is what some person named LUKE says happened.

WHAT WAS HIS SOURCE OF INFORMATION?

There was NEVER any PROOF that Ananias and Sapphira committed the SUPPOSED offense that they were ACCUSED of.

These two people made a promise to God, then they did what too many people do when they think no one is watching.


HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS?

. EXODUS 23:1-3.

"THOU shalt not raise a false report:
put not thine hand with the Wicked
to be an Unrighteous Witness.
2. "Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do Evil;
neither shalt thou speak in a cause
to decline after many to wrest Judgment:
3. "Neither shalt thou countenance
a poor man in his cause."


"THE BIBLE SAID IT HAPPENED THAT WAY- SO IT MUST BE TRUE!"

That is called "DECLINING AFTER A MULTITUDE TO WREST JUDGMENT!"

A RIGHTEOUS MAN asks for EVIDENCE before condemning someone of a CAPITAL CRIME!

Now, if only there could have been some CORROBORATING WITNESSES to CONFIRM whether the amount brought was the amount UNLAWFULLY-PROMISED- when DONATIONS SHOULD HAVE BEEN SECRET...!

. DEUTERONOMY 17:6-7.

6. At the mouth of two witnesses,
or three witnesses,
shall he that is worthy of death
be put to death;
but at the mouth of one witness
he shall not be put to death.
7. The hands of the witnesses
shall be first upon him to put him to death,
and afterward the hands of all the people.
So thou shalt put the Evil away
from among you.


YEAH- THERE WAS THE WIFE- SHE COULD HAVE CONFIRMED WHETHER THE HUSBAND ACTUALLY BROUGHT THE ACTUAL SUM OF MONEY THEY SHOULD HAVE DONATED!

Oh- HER testimony was THROWN OUT- because it was ALREADY DECIDED that she was GUILTY-AS-CHARGED!

. MATTHEW 5:16-20.

16. “Let your light
so shine before men,
that they may see
your Good Works,
and glorify your Father
Which is in Heaven.
17. "Think not that I am come
to destroy The Law,
or The Prophets:
I am not come to destroy,
but to fulfil.
18. "For verily I say unto you,


'TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS,
ONE JOT OR ONE TITTLE
SHALL IN NO WISE
PASS FROM THE LAW
TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'


19. "Whosoever therefore
shall break one
of these least Commandments,
and shall teach men so,
he shall be called
The Least in The Kingdom of Heaven:
but whosoever shall do
and teach Them,
the same shall be called Great
in The Kingdom of Heaven.
20. "For I say unto you,


'THAT EXCEPT YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS
SHALL EXCEED THE RIGHTEOUSNESS
OF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES,
YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.' "


SO- YOU THINK THAT THAT IS THE SORT OF JUSTICE THAT YAHSHUA'S GOSPEL TEACHES?

Is that the sort of MERCY and FORGIVENESS that YAHSHUA Preached his whole Ministry?

. DEUTERONOMY 25:13-16.

13. Thou shalt not have in thy bag
divers weights, a great and a small.
14. Thou shalt not have in thine house
divers measures, a great and a small.
15. But thou shalt have a perfect and just weight,
a perfect and just measure shalt thou have:
that thy days may be lengthened
in the Land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
16. For all that do such things,
and all that do unrighteously,
are an Abomination unto the LORD thy God.


MOSES TRICKED THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL INTO KILLING THEMSELVES WITH UNEQUAL JUDGMENTS.

He told them that they could KILL THEIR BRETHREN, whom they left Egypt with together- for their perceived "CAPITAL SINS," and take their stuff.

FORTY YEARS LATER, he CONFESSED to the SURVIVORS "HOW I KILLED YOUR PARENTS:" but he did it so cleverly, that they never realized what he had done to them. They went on to commit the same mistakes, while Moses moved on.

. MATTHEW 18:15-35.

15. "Moreover if thy Brother shall trespass against thee,
go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone:
if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy Brother.
16. "But if he will not hear thee,
then take with thee one or two more,
that in the mouth of two or three witnesses
every word may be established.
17. "And if he shall neglect to hear them,
tell it unto the Church:
but if he neglect to hear the Church,
let him be unto thee
as an Heathen man and a publican.
18. "Verily I say unto you,


'WHATSOEVER YE SHALL BIND ON EARTH
SHALL BE BOUND IN HEAVEN:
AND WHATSOEVER YE SHALL LOOSE ON EARTH
SHALL BE LOOSED IN HEAVEN.'


19. "Again I say unto you,

'THAT IF TWO OF YOU
SHALL AGREE ON EARTH
AS TOUCHING ANY THING
THAT THEY SHALL ASK,
IT SHALL BE DONE FOR THEM
OF MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.'


20. "For where two or three
are gathered together in my Name,
there am I in the midst of them."
21. Then came Peter to him, and said,
"Lord, how oft shall my Brother Sin
against me,
and I forgive him?
Till seven times?"
22. Jesus saith unto him,
"I say not unto thee,


'UNTIL SEVEN TIMES:'
BUT, 'UNTIL SEVENTY TIMES SEVEN.'


23. "Therefore is the Kingdom of Heaven likened
unto a certain king,
which would take account of his servants.
24. "And when he had begun to reckon,
one was brought unto him,
which owed him ten thousand talents.
25. "But forasmuch as he had not to pay,
his lord commanded him to be sold,
and his wife, and children,
and all that he had,
and payment to be made.
26. "The servant therefore fell down,
and worshipped him, saying,


'LORD, HAVE PATIENCE WITH ME,
AND I WILL PAY THEE ALL.'


27. "Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion,
and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
28. "But the same servant went out,
and found one of his fellowservants,
which owed him an hundred pence:
and he laid hands on him,
and took him by the throat,
saying,


'PAY ME THAT THOU OWEST.'

29. "And his fellowservant fell down at his feet,
and besought him, saying,


'HAVE PATIENCE WITH ME,
AND I WILL PAY THEE ALL.'


30. "And he would not:
but went and cast him into prison,
till he should pay the debt.
31. "So when his fellowservants
saw what was done,
they were very sorry,
and came and told unto their lord
all that was done.
32. "Then his lord,
after that he had called him,
said unto him,


'O THOU WICKED SERVANT,
I FORGAVE THEE ALL THAT DEBT,
BECAUSE THOU DESIREDST ME:
33. 'SHOULDEST NOT THOU ALSO
HAVE HAD COMPASSION
ON THY FELLOWSERVANT,
EVEN AS I HAD PITY ON THEE?'


34. "And his lord was wroth,
and delivered him to the Tormentors,
till he should pay all that was due unto him."
35. "So likewise
shall my Heavenly Father
do also unto you,
if ye from your hearts
forgive not every one
his Brother their Trespasses."


WHAT HAPPENED TO THE RIGHT OF A BROTHER TO A PRIVATE HEARING, WHERE HIS FAULT IS PUT BEFORE HIM?

Who were the TWO OR THREE other Brethren who entreated Ananias, before PETER dropped the NUKE on his head?

When did KILLING become part of The Gospel?

How can THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST kill?
Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by oaroloye(m): 9:01pm On Mar 30, 2017
ScienceWatch:
It is sobering to know that God saw fit to strike this sinful couple down for the benefit of those that gave what they cherished most toward the greatest mission in the world.



blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia ,


SOBER? YOU were NOT "sobered."

You are DRUNK!

You haven't committed THE SAME SIN Ananias and Sapphira were ACCUSED of?

Let me REFRESH your MEMORY?

. DEUTERONOMY 6:4-9.

4. Hear, O Israel:
The LORD our God is one LORD:
5. And thou shalt love
The LORD thy God with all thine Heart,
and with all thy Soul,
and with all thy Might.
6. And These Words,
Which I Command thee this Day,
shall be in thine heart:
7. And thou shalt teach them
diligently unto thy Children,
and shalt talk of them
when thou sittest in thine house,
and when thou walkest by the way,
and when thou liest down,
and when thou risest up.
8. And thou shalt bind them
for a sign upon thine hand,
and they shall be as frontlets
between thine eyes.
9. And thou shalt write them
upon the posts of thy house,
and on thy gates.


ARE YOU CLAIING THAT YOU HAVE SERVED GOD WITH ALL OF YOUR HEART, ALL OF YOUR SOUL, AND ALL OF YOUR MIGHT?

Never holding ANYTHING back?

BULLSHIT!

If that were so, you would be SUPERHUMAN by now!

You do not even use 10% of your MIND!

You could not even REMEMBER the Scriptures Peter and the so-called Apostles VIOLATED!

You did not even have the MIGHT to COPY & PASTE Scriptures YOU THINK support your case.

There is NO EVIDENCE that you even had the MIGHT to THINK of any, at all!

Yet you EAGERLY PASS JUDGMENT on TWO DISPOSABLE BRETHREN, who had committed NO CAPITAL SIN.

. EXODUS 22:1-4.

"IF a man shall steal an ox,
or a sheep,
and kill it, or sell it;
he shall restore
five oxen for an ox,
and four sheep for a sheep.
2. "If a thief be found breaking up,
and be smitten that he die,
there shall no blood be shed for him.
3. "If the sun be risen upon him,
there shall be blood shed for him;
for he should make full restitution;
if he have nothing,
then he shall be sold for his theft.
4. "If the theft be certainly found in his hand alive,
whether it be ox, or ass, or sheep;
he shall restore double."


IF PEOPLE LIKE ANANIAS HAD TO DIE- FOR THIS SORT OF DEED- WHICH IS PRACTICALLY NOTHING- WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE PUNISHMENT FOR KILLING THE SON OF GOD?

. LUKE 23:33-34.

33. And when they were come to the place,
which is called Calvary,
there they crucified him,
and the malefactors,
one on the right hand,
and the other on the left.
34. Then said Jesus,

"Father, forgive them;
for they know not what they do."

And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.


WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SEE, TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE GOATS AND YAHSHUA DID NOT REPRESENT THE SAME GOD?

What should have been the punishment for LYING TO THE SON OF GOD?

. MARK 14:27-31.[color]

[color=#990000]27. And Jesus saith unto them,
"All ye shall be offended
because of me this night:
for it is written,[color]

[color=#006600]'I WILL SMITE THE SHEPHERD,
AND THE SHEEP SHALL BE SCATTERED.'


28. "But after that I am risen, I will go before you into Galilee."
29. But Peter said unto him,
"Although all shall be offended, yet will not I."
30. And Jesus saith unto him,
"Verily I say unto thee,[color]

[color=#006600]'THAT THIS DAY,
EVEN IN THIS NIGHT,
BEFORE THE COCK CROW TWICE,
THOU SHALT DENY ME THRICE.' "


31. But he spake the more vehemently,
"If I should die with thee,
I will not deny thee in any wise."
Likewise also said they all.[color]

GAINSAYING THE WORDS OF A PROPHET OF GOD SPEAKING FROM GOD IS A VERY SERIOUS SIN!

But the "APOSTLES" did it, shamelessly!

[color=silver].
MARK 14:50.

50. And they all forsook him, and fled.

Yahshua didn't strike them all dead!

He didn't strike ANY of them dead!

He didn't even strike JUDAS dead.

When Peter removed the EAR of one of the attackers, YAHSHUA said: "THAT'S NOT RIGHT!" and put it back!

Didn't MALCHUS deserve to go through life without an ear for what he did?

Yahshua didn't think so!

The Church was evidently NOT ALLOWED to KNOW all these things- or else, how could they have STOOD for this sort of nonsense?

. ACTS 7:55-60.

55. But he, being full of the Holy Ghost,
looked up stedfastly into Heaven,
and saw The Glory of God,
and Jesus standing on the Right Hand of God,
56. And said,
"Behold, I see the Heavens opened,
and The Son of Man standing
on the Right Hand of God."
57. Then they cried out with a loud voice,
and stopped their ears,
and ran upon him with one accord,
58. And cast him out of the city,
and stoned him:
and the witnesses laid down their clothes
at a young man's feet,
whose name was Saul.
59. And they stoned Stephen,
calling upon God, and saying,

"Lord Jesus, receive my spirit."

60. And he kneeled down,
and cried with a loud voice,

"Lord, lay not this sin to their charge."

And when he had said this,
he fell asleep.


DEACON STEPHEN WAS DESCRIBED BY LUKE AS BEING "FULL OF FAITH."

Why couldn't he use his FULL-OF-FAITH to DEFLECT the stones?

A Brethren in the INDONESIAN REVIVAL OF 1965 experienced that, according to MEL TARI.

[See: LIKE A MIGHTY WIND, by Mel Tari.]

They tried to stone this Brother for preaching The Gospel- and the stones went to two feet of him, then REBOUNDED, like they HIT SOME BARRIER!

YAHSHUA SAID:

. LUKE 10:17-24.

17. And the seventy returned again with joy, saying,
"Lord, even the Devils are subject unto us
through thy Name."
18. And he said unto them,
"I beheld Satan as lightning fall from Heaven.
19. "Behold, I give unto you Power
to tread on Serpents and Scorpions,
and over all the Power of the Enemy:
and nothing shall by any means hurt you."
20. "Notwithstanding in this rejoice not,
that the spirits are subject unto you;
but rather rejoice, because your Names
are written in Heaven."
21. In that Hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said,
"I thank thee, O Father, Lord of Heaven and Earth,
that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent,
and hast revealed them unto babes:
even so, Father; for so it seemed good in Thy Sight.
22. "All things are delivered to me of my Father:
and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father;
and Who the Father is, but the Son,
and he to whom the Son will reveal him."
23. And he turned him unto his Disciples, and said privately,
"Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see:
24. "For I tell you,


'THAT MANY PROPHETS AND KINGS
HAVE DESIRED TO SEE THOSE THINGS WHICH YE SEE,
AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM;
AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS WHICH YE HEAR,
AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.' "


I should feel HONOURED to know that MY Understanding of The Bible is considered "CHILDISH!"

LITTLE CHILDREN'S AWARENESS accesses ALL EIGHT LEVELS OF LIFE- until they are taught to keep it on the LOWEST level.

It is "ADULTS" who learn how to LIE against THE WORD OF GOD.

. ACTS 6:1-6.

AND in those days,
when the number of the Disciples
was multiplied,
there arose a murmuring of the Grecians
against the Hebrews,
because their widows were neglected
in the daily ministration.
2. Then the Twelve called
the multitude of the Disciples
unto them,
and said,

"It is not reason
that we should leave
The Word of God,
and serve tables.
3. "Wherefore, Brethren,
look ye out among you
seven men of honest report,
full of the Holy Ghost and Wisdom,
whom we may appoint over this business.
4. "But we will give ourselves
continually to Prayer,
and to the Ministry of The Word."

5. And the saying
pleased the whole multitude:
and they chose Stephen,
a man full of Faith
and of the Holy Ghost,
and Philip, and Prochorus,
and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas,
and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch:
6. Whom they set before the Apostles:
and when they had prayed,
they laid their hands on them.


WHAT HAPPENED TO "NO ONE LACKED FOR ANY THING, BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE DONATING THEIR STUFF?"

They KILLED two of their BEST DONORS on an UNVERIFIED ACCUSATION!

LESSON! LEARNED!

So now they experienced SHORTAGES!

Also, THE "APOSTLES" suddenly decided that THEY WERE "TOO BIG" to SERVE TABLES!

Yahshua had TAUGHT THEM how to feed THOUSANDS of people with ONE KID'S FOOD (a thing which also happened during the INDONESIAN REVIVAL,) but they were NOT WILLING to do that. Instead, they engaged in BOGUS PRAYING, while they CONSPIRED TOGETHER to DEPRIVE THE CHURCH of THE TRUTH.

After PETER and PAUL died about 60AD, the first GOSPELS were able to see the light of day, and people could see what liars the Apostles were.

STEPHEN WAS A PARTY TO THAT DECEPTION- therefore, when he needed YAHSHUA to SAVE HIM- the Power was not there- because HE GAVE THAT UP, when he CONSENTED to the DEATHS of ANANIAS and SAPPHIRA!

Was praying a mealy-mouthed prayer for the forgiveness of people STONING HIM TO DEATH- whereas he could not pray the SAME MERCY for two people accused of WITHHOLDING MONEY AND LYING ABOUT IT.

What were the people STONING HIM TO DEATH withholding?

What was HE withholding?

. MATTHEW 7:1-6.

"JUDGE not, that ye be not judged.
2. "For with what judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged:
and with what measure ye mete,
it shall be measured to you again.
3. "And why beholdest thou the mote
that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam
that is in thine own eye?
4. "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother,


'LET ME PULL OUT THE MOTE
OUT OF THINE EYE;'


and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5. "Thou Hypocrite, first cast out the beam
out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly
to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
6. "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs,
neither cast ye your pearls before swine,
lest they trample them under their feet,
and turn again and rend you."


. MATTHEW 28:16-20.

16. Then the eleven Disciples
went away into Galilee,
into a mountain
where Jesus had appointed them.
17. And when they saw him,
they worshipped him:
but some doubted.
18. And Jesus came
and spake unto them,
saying,
"All Power is given unto me
in Heaven and in Earth.
19. "Go ye therefore,
and Teach all nations,
baptizing them
in The Name of the Father,
and of the Son,
and of the Holy Ghost:
20. "Teaching them to observe
all things whatsoever
I have Commanded you:
and, lo,
I am with you alway,
even unto The End of The World." Amen.


. JOHN 8:51-53.

51. "Verily, verily, I say unto you,

'IF A MAN KEEP MY SAYING,
HE SHALL NEVER SEE DEATH.' "


52. Then said the Jews unto him,
"Now we know that thou hast a devil.
Abraham is dead, and the Prophets;
and thou sayest,


'IF A MAN KEEP MY SAYING,
HE SHALL NEVER TASTE OF DEATH.'


53. "Art thou greater than our father Abraham,
which is dead?
and the Prophets are dead:
whom makest thou thyself?"


SINCE THE DISCIPLES DID NOT TEACH EVERYTHING YAHSHUA HAD COMMANDED THEM, THEY COULD NOT CLAIM THE POWER OVER DEATH THAT HE HAD LEFT THEM.

. JOHN 14:12.

12. "Verily, verily, I say unto you,

'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME,
THE WORKS THAT I DO
SHALL HE DO ALSO;'


and greater (Works) than these
shall he do;
because I go unto my Father."


BELIEVERS ON YAHSHUA DO THE WORKS OF YAHSHUA.

What could be simpler?
Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch: 2:11pm On Mar 31, 2017
Your copy and paste make some sense but your own thinking is very skewed. You make an ideal candidate for Atheism. HAHN will welcome you warmly.
oaroloye:
SHALOM!

You pompously presume that you know what you are talking about.

Whereas, you talk like an adult who grew up as a child who hated discipline.
knowI believe that The Holy Ghost left the Building at that juncture.

Whatever Religion they were practicing, it was no longer CHRISTIANITY.

. LUKE 9:51-56.

51. And it came to pass,
when the time was come
that he should be received up,
he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem,
52. And sent messengers before his face:
and they went,
and entered into a village of the Samaritans,
to make ready for him.
53. And they did not receive him,
because his face was as though
he would go to Jerusalem.
54. And when his Disciples James and John saw this,
they said,
"Lord, wilt thou that we
command Fire to come down from Heaven,
and consume them,
even as Elias did?"
55. But he turned,
and rebuked them,
and said,
"Ye know not
what manner of spirit ye are of.
56. "For the Son of Man
is not come to destroy men's lives,
but to save them."
And they went to another village.




Your Dictionary is WRONG: the authors and publishers did not know what they were talking about- because they did not have "HOLINESS" in their own Church- presuming that they have a church.

. REVELATION 22:11.

11. "He that is UNJUST,
let him be Unjust still:
and he which is FILTHY,
let him be Filthy still:
and he that is RIGHTEOUS,
let him be Righteous still:
and he that is HOLY,
let him be Holy still."


HOLINESS IS AN INTENSITY OF SPIRITUAL ENERGY- THE ABILITY TO DO SPIRITUAL WORKS.

There are FOUR such intensities- as seen by SEERS, who have the Power to not only see Spiritual Energies, but also differentiate between the various types. This is attained by extreme Discipline and Dedication.

SPIRITUAL ENERGY IS LIFE.

There are EIGHT LEVELS of it.

The Earth has the lowest level- which pertains to the Animals, Plants, and Insects of the Earth.

The seven Heaven Universes each have their own level, and their own Spirit of God Which pertains to that Heaven, and is the Ruling Power over It.

These Spirits do not come to Earth, unless they are summoned there by the deployment of Heavenly Law.

. 2nd CHRONICLES 16:9.

9. "For The Eyes of The LORD
run to and fro throughout the whole Earth,
to shew Himself strong in the behalf of them
whose heart is perfect toward Him.
Herein thou hast done foolishly:
therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars."


. AMOS 3:3.

3. "Can two walk together,
except they be agreed?"


. ZECHARIAH 4:10.

10. For who hath despised the Day of small things?
for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet
in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven;
they are The Eyes of The LORD,
Which run to and fro through the whole Earth.


. REVELATION 4:5.

5. And out of The Throne proceeded
lightnings and thunderings and voices:
and there were seven Lamps of Fire
burning before The Throne,
which are The Seven Spirits of God.


THE OYINBO-FOLLOWERS HAVE NOT TAUGHT YOU ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE WHOEVER OF THEM KNOW ABOUT IT DO NOT TEACH IT PUBLICLY.

The Spirits must be acquired sequentially, or else you run the risk of rupturing your Soul Body.

. MATTHEW 9:16-17.

16. "No man putteth
a piece of new cloth
unto an old garment,
for that which is put in
to fill it up
taketh from the garment,
and the rent is made worse.
17. "Neither do men put new wine
into old bottles:
else the bottles break,
and the wine runneth out,
and the bottles perish:
but they put new wine
into new bottles,
and both are preserved."


THE INSANITY IN CHRISTIANITY IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO PEOPLE GETTING THE EIGHT SPIRITS MUDDLED UP- WHEREBY THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE THINKING, SAYING, NOR DOING- BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT EVERY WORD OF GOD IS EQUAL.

. 2nd PETER 1:5-9.

5. And beside this, giving all diligence,
add to your Faith Virtue;
and to virtue Knowledge;
6. And to knowledge Temperance;
and to temperance Patience;
and to patience Godliness;
7. And to godliness Brotherly Kindness;
and to brotherly kindness Charity.
8. For if these things be in you, and abound,
they make you that ye shall neither be
barren nor unfruitful in the Knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9. But he that lacketh these things is blind,
and cannot see afar off,
and hath forgotten
that he was purged from his old sins.


PETER CYNICALLY SHARED THIS WITH THE CHURCH, KNOWING THAT WE COULD NEVER ACHIEVE IT, BECAUSE HE WAS BLOCKING EVERYONE ELSE FROM KNOWING YAHSHUA'S TEACHINGS.



This violates the Commandments of Yahshua, which say:

. MATTHEW 6:1-4.

"TAKE heed that ye do not
your Alms before men,
to be seen of them:
otherwise ye have no Reward
of your Father
Which is in Heaven.
2. "Therefore when thou doest thine Alms,
do not sound a trumpet before thee,
as the Hypocrites do
in the synagogues and in the streets,
that they may have glory of men.
Verily I say unto you,


'THEY HAVE THEIR REWARD.'

3. "But when thou doest Alms,
let not thy left hand know
what thy right hand doeth:
4. "That thine Alms may be in Secret:
and thy Father
Which seeth in Secret Himself
shall Reward thee openly."




This is what some person named LUKE says happened.

WHAT WAS HIS SOURCE OF INFORMATION?

There was NEVER any PROOF that Ananias and Sapphira committed the SUPPOSED offense that they were ACCUSED of.



HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS?

. EXODUS 23:1-3.

"THOU shalt not raise a false report:
put not thine hand with the Wicked
to be an Unrighteous Witness.
2. "Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do Evil;
neither shalt thou speak in a cause
to decline after many to wrest Judgment:
3. "Neither shalt thou countenance
a poor man in his cause."


"THE BIBLE SAID IT HAPPENED THAT WAY- SO IT MUST BE TRUE!"

That is called "DECLINING AFTER A MULTITUDE TO WREST JUDGMENT!"

A RIGHTEOUS MAN asks for EVIDENCE before condemning someone of a CAPITAL CRIME!

Now, if only there could have been some CORROBORATING WITNESSES to CONFIRM whether the amount brought was the amount UNLAWFULLY-PROMISED- when DONATIONS SHOULD HAVE BEEN SECRET...!

. DEUTERONOMY 17:6-7.

6. At the mouth of two witnesses,
or three witnesses,
shall he that is worthy of death
be put to death;
but at the mouth of one witness
he shall not be put to death.
7. The hands of the witnesses
shall be first upon him to put him to death,
and afterward the hands of all the people.
So thou shalt put the Evil away
from among you.


YEAH- THERE WAS THE WIFE- SHE COULD HAVE CONFIRMED WHETHER THE HUSBAND ACTUALLY BROUGHT THE ACTUAL SUM OF MONEY THEY SHOULD HAVE DONATED!

Oh- HER testimony was THROWN OUT- because it was ALREADY DECIDED that she was GUILTY-AS-CHARGED!

. MATTHEW 5:16-20.

16. “Let your light
so shine before men,
that they may see
your Good Works,
and glorify your Father
Which is in Heaven.
17. "Think not that I am come
to destroy The Law,
or The Prophets:
I am not come to destroy,
but to fulfil.
18. "For verily I say unto you,


'TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS,
ONE JOT OR ONE TITTLE
SHALL IN NO WISE
PASS FROM THE LAW
TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'


19. "Whosoever therefore
shall break one
of these least Commandments,
and shall teach men so,
he shall be called
The Least in The Kingdom of Heaven:
but whosoever shall do
and teach Them,
the same shall be called Great
in The Kingdom of Heaven.
20. "For I say unto you,


'THAT EXCEPT YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS
SHALL EXCEED THE RIGHTEOUSNESS
OF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES,
YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.' "


SO- YOU THINK THAT THAT IS THE SORT OF JUSTICE THAT YAHSHUA'S GOSPEL TEACHES?

Is that the sort of MERCY and FORGIVENESS that YAHSHUA Preached his whole Ministry?

. DEUTERONOMY 25:13-16.

13. Thou shalt not have in thy bag
divers weights, a great and a small.
14. Thou shalt not have in thine house
divers measures, a great and a small.
15. But thou shalt have a perfect and just weight,
a perfect and just measure shalt thou have:
that thy days may be lengthened
in the Land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
16. For all that do such things,
and all that do unrighteously,
are an Abomination unto the LORD thy God.


MOSES TRICKED THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL INTO KILLING THEMSELVES WITH UNEQUAL JUDGMENTS.

He told them that they could KILL THEIR BRETHREN, whom they left Egypt with together- for their perceived "CAPITAL SINS," and take their stuff.

FORTY YEARS LATER, he CONFESSED to the SURVIVORS "HOW I KILLED YOUR PARENTS:" but he did it so cleverly, that they never realized what he had done to them. They went on to commit the same mistakes, while Moses moved on.

. MATTHEW 18:15-35.

15. "Moreover if thy Brother shall trespass against thee,
go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone:
if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy Brother.
16. "But if he will not hear thee,
then take with thee one or two more,
that in the mouth of two or three witnesses
every word may be established.
17. "And if he shall neglect to hear them,
tell it unto the Church:
but if he neglect to hear the Church,
let him be unto thee
as an Heathen man and a publican.
18. "Verily I say unto you,


'WHATSOEVER YE SHALL BIND ON EARTH
SHALL BE BOUND IN HEAVEN:
AND WHATSOEVER YE SHALL LOOSE ON EARTH
SHALL BE LOOSED IN HEAVEN.'


19. "Again I say unto you,

'THAT IF TWO OF YOU
SHALL AGREE ON EARTH
AS TOUCHING ANY THING
THAT THEY SHALL ASK,
IT SHALL BE DONE FOR THEM
OF MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.'


20. "For where two or three
are gathered together in my Name,
there am I in the midst of them."
21. Then came Peter to him, and said,
"Lord, how oft shall my Brother Sin
against me,
and I forgive him?
Till seven times?"
22. Jesus saith unto him,
"I say not unto thee,


'UNTIL SEVEN TIMES:'
BUT, 'UNTIL SEVENTY TIMES SEVEN.'


23. "Therefore is the Kingdom of Heaven likened
unto a certain king,
which would take account of his servants.
24. "And when he had begun to reckon,
one was brought unto him,
which owed him ten thousand talents.
25. "But forasmuch as he had not to pay,
his lord commanded him to be sold,
and his wife, and children,
and all that he had,
and payment to be made.
26. "The servant therefore fell down,
and worshipped him, saying,


'LORD, HAVE PATIENCE WITH ME,
AND I WILL PAY THEE ALL.'


27. "Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion,
and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
28. "But the same servant went out,
and found one of his fellowservants,
which owed him an hundred pence:
and he laid hands on him,
and took him by the throat,
saying,


'PAY ME THAT THOU OWEST.'

29. "And his fellowservant fell down at his feet,
and besought him, saying,


'HAVE PATIENCE WITH ME,
AND I WILL PAY THEE ALL.'


30. "And he would not:
but went and cast him into prison,
till he should pay the debt.
31. "So when his fellowservants
saw what was done,
they were very sorry,
and came and told unto their lord
all that was done.
32. "Then his lord,
after that he had called him,
said unto him,


'O THOU WICKED SERVANT,
I FORGAVE THEE ALL THAT DEBT,
BECAUSE THOU DESIREDST ME:
33. 'SHOULDEST NOT THOU ALSO
HAVE HAD COMPASSION
ON THY FELLOWSERVANT,
EVEN AS I HAD PITY ON THEE?'


34. "And his lord was wroth,
and delivered him to the Tormentors,
till he should pay all that was due unto him."
35. "So likewise
shall my Heavenly Father
do also unto you,
if ye from your hearts
forgive not every one
his Brother their Trespasses."


WHAT HAPPENED TO THE RIGHT OF A BROTHER TO A PRIVATE HEARING, WHERE HIS FAULT IS PUT BEFORE HIM?

Who were the TWO OR THREE other Brethren who entreated Ananias, before PETER dropped the NUKE on his head?

When did KILLING become part of The Gospel?

How can THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST kill?

Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch: 2:17pm On Mar 31, 2017
ScienceWatch:
Your copy and paste make some sense but your own thinking is very skewed. You make an ideal candidate for Atheism. HAHN will welcome you warmly.
Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by hahn(m): 2:24pm On Mar 31, 2017
ScienceWatch:
Your copy and paste make some sense but your own thinking is very skewed. You make an ideal candidate for Atheism. HAHN will welcome you warmly.

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Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch: 2:31pm On Mar 31, 2017
You will do well to only copy and paste. Your own opinions are confusing.
oaroloye:


SOBER? YOU were NOT "sobered."

You are DRUNK!

You haven't committed THE SAME SIN Ananias and Sapphira were ACCUSED of?

Let me REFRESH your MEMORY?

. DEUTERONOMY 6:4-9.

4. Hear, O Israel:
The LORD our God is one LORD:
5. And thou shalt love
The LORD thy God with all thine Heart,
and with all thy Soul,
and with all thy Might.
6. And These Words,
Which I Command thee this Day,
shall be in thine heart:
7. And thou shalt teach them
diligently unto thy Children,
and shalt talk of them
when thou sittest in thine house,
and when thou walkest by the way,
and when thou liest down,
and when thou risest up.
8. And thou shalt bind them
for a sign upon thine hand,
and they shall be as frontlets
between thine eyes.
9. And thou shalt write them
upon the posts of thy house,
and on thy gates.


ARE YOU CLAIING THAT YOU HAVE SERVED GOD WITH ALL OF YOUR HEART, ALL OF YOUR SOUL, AND ALL OF YOUR MIGHT?

Never holding ANYTHING back?

BULLSHIT!

If that were so, you would be SUPERHUMAN by now!

You do not even use 10% of your MIND!

You could not even REMEMBER the Scriptures Peter and the so-called Apostles VIOLATED!

You did not even have the MIGHT to COPY & PASTE Scriptures YOU THINK support your case.

There is NO EVIDENCE that you even had the MIGHT to THINK of any, at all!

Yet you EAGERLY PASS JUDGMENT on TWO DISPOSABLE BRETHREN, who had committed NO CAPITAL SIN.

. EXODUS 22:1-4.

"IF a man shall steal an ox,
or a sheep,
and kill it, or sell it;
he shall restore
five oxen for an ox,
and four sheep for a sheep.
2. "If a thief be found breaking up,
and be smitten that he die,
there shall no blood be shed for him.
3. "If the sun be risen upon him,
there shall be blood shed for him;
for he should make full restitution;
if he have nothing,
then he shall be sold for his theft.
4. "If the theft be certainly found in his hand alive,
whether it be ox, or ass, or sheep;
he shall restore double."


IF PEOPLE LIKE ANANIAS HAD TO DIE- FOR THIS SORT OF DEED- WHICH IS PRACTICALLY NOTHING- WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE PUNISHMENT FOR KILLING THE SON OF GOD?

. LUKE 23:33-34.

33. And when they were come to the place,
which is called Calvary,
there they crucified him,
and the malefactors,
one on the right hand,
and the other on the left.
34. Then said Jesus,

"Father, forgive them;
for they know not what they do."

And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.


WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SEE, TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE GOATS AND YAHSHUA DID NOT REPRESENT THE SAME GOD?

What should have been the punishment for LYING TO THE SON OF GOD?

. MARK 14:27-31.[color]

[color=#990000]27. And Jesus saith unto them,
"All ye shall be offended
because of me this night:
for it is written,[color]

[color=#006600]'I WILL SMITE THE SHEPHERD,
AND THE SHEEP SHALL BE SCATTERED.'


28. "But after that I am risen, I will go before you into Galilee."
29. But Peter said unto him,
"Although all shall be offended, yet will not I."
30. And Jesus saith unto him,
"Verily I say unto thee,[color]

[color=#006600]'THAT THIS DAY,
EVEN IN THIS NIGHT,
BEFORE THE COCK CROW TWICE,
THOU SHALT DENY ME THRICE.' "


31. But he spake the more vehemently,
"If I should die with thee,
I will not deny thee in any wise."
Likewise also said they all.[color]

GAINSAYING THE WORDS OF A PROPHET OF GOD SPEAKING FROM GOD IS A VERY SERIOUS SIN!

But the "APOSTLES" did it, shamelessly!

[color=silver].
MARK 14:50.

50. And they all forsook him, and fled.

Yahshua didn't strike them all dead!

He didn't strike ANY of them dead!

He didn't even strike JUDAS dead.

When Peter removed the EAR of one of the attackers, YAHSHUA said: "THAT'S NOT RIGHT!" and put it back!

Didn't MALCHUS deserve to go through life without an ear for what he did?

Yahshua didn't think so!

The Church was evidently NOT ALLOWED to KNOW all these things- or else, how could they have STOOD for this sort of nonsense?

. ACTS 7:55-60.

55. But he, being full of the Holy Ghost,
looked up stedfastly into Heaven,
and saw The Glory of God,
and Jesus standing on the Right Hand of God,
56. And said,
"Behold, I see the Heavens opened,
and The Son of Man standing
on the Right Hand of God."
57. Then they cried out with a loud voice,
and stopped their ears,
and ran upon him with one accord,
58. And cast him out of the city,
and stoned him:
and the witnesses laid down their clothes
at a young man's feet,
whose name was Saul.
59. And they stoned Stephen,
calling upon God, and saying,

"Lord Jesus, receive my spirit."

60. And he kneeled down,
and cried with a loud voice,

"Lord, lay not this sin to their charge."

And when he had said this,
he fell asleep.


DEACON STEPHEN WAS DESCRIBED BY LUKE AS BEING "FULL OF FAITH."

Why couldn't he use his FULL-OF-FAITH to DEFLECT the stones?

A Brethren in the INDONESIAN REVIVAL OF 1965 experienced that, according to MEL TARI.

[See: LIKE A MIGHTY WIND, by Mel Tari.]

They tried to stone this Brother for preaching The Gospel- and the stones went to two feet of him, then REBOUNDED, like they HIT SOME BARRIER!

YAHSHUA SAID:

. LUKE 10:17-24.

17. And the seventy returned again with joy, saying,
"Lord, even the Devils are subject unto us
through thy Name."
18. And he said unto them,
"I beheld Satan as lightning fall from Heaven.
19. "Behold, I give unto you Power
to tread on Serpents and Scorpions,
and over all the Power of the Enemy:
and nothing shall by any means hurt you."
20. "Notwithstanding in this rejoice not,
that the spirits are subject unto you;
but rather rejoice, because your Names
are written in Heaven."
21. In that Hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said,
"I thank thee, O Father, Lord of Heaven and Earth,
that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent,
and hast revealed them unto babes:
even so, Father; for so it seemed good in Thy Sight.
22. "All things are delivered to me of my Father:
and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father;
and Who the Father is, but the Son,
and he to whom the Son will reveal him."
23. And he turned him unto his Disciples, and said privately,
"Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see:
24. "For I tell you,


'THAT MANY PROPHETS AND KINGS
HAVE DESIRED TO SEE THOSE THINGS WHICH YE SEE,
AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM;
AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS WHICH YE HEAR,
AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.' "


I should feel HONOURED to know that MY Understanding of The Bible is considered "CHILDISH!"

LITTLE CHILDREN'S AWARENESS accesses ALL EIGHT LEVELS OF LIFE- until they are taught to keep it on the LOWEST level.

It is "ADULTS" who learn how to LIE against THE WORD OF GOD.

. ACTS 6:1-6.

AND in those days,
when the number of the Disciples
was multiplied,
there arose a murmuring of the Grecians
against the Hebrews,
because their widows were neglected
in the daily ministration.
2. Then the Twelve called
the multitude of the Disciples
unto them,
and said,

"It is not reason
that we should leave
The Word of God,
and serve tables.
3. "Wherefore, Brethren,
look ye out among you
seven men of honest report,
full of the Holy Ghost and Wisdom,
whom we may appoint over this business.
4. "But we will give ourselves
continually to Prayer,
and to the Ministry of The Word."

5. And the saying
pleased the whole multitude:
and they chose Stephen,
a man full of Faith
and of the Holy Ghost,
and Philip, and Prochorus,
and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas,
and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch:
6. Whom they set before the Apostles:
and when they had prayed,
they laid their hands on them.


WHAT HAPPENED TO "NO ONE LACKED FOR ANY THING, BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE DONATING THEIR STUFF?"

They KILLED two of their BEST DONORS on an UNVERIFIED ACCUSATION!

LESSON! LEARNED!

So now they experienced SHORTAGES!

Also, THE "APOSTLES" suddenly decided that THEY WERE "TOO BIG" to SERVE TABLES!

Yahshua had TAUGHT THEM how to feed THOUSANDS of people with ONE KID'S FOOD (a thing which also happened during the INDONESIAN REVIVAL,) but they were NOT WILLING to do that. Instead, they engaged in BOGUS PRAYING, while they CONSPIRED TOGETHER to DEPRIVE THE CHURCH of THE TRUTH.

After PETER and PAUL died about 60AD, the first GOSPELS were able to see the light of day, and people could see what liars the Apostles were.

STEPHEN WAS A PARTY TO THAT DECEPTION- therefore, when he needed YAHSHUA to SAVE HIM- the Power was not there- because HE GAVE THAT UP, when he CONSENTED to the DEATHS of ANANIAS and SAPPHIRA!

Was praying a mealy-mouthed prayer for the forgiveness of people STONING HIM TO DEATH- whereas he could not pray the SAME MERCY for two people accused of WITHHOLDING MONEY AND LYING ABOUT IT.

What were the people STONING HIM TO DEATH withholding?

What was HE withholding?

. MATTHEW 7:1-6.

"JUDGE not, that ye be not judged.
2. "For with what judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged:
and with what measure ye mete,
it shall be measured to you again.
3. "And why beholdest thou the mote
that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam
that is in thine own eye?
4. "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother,


'LET ME PULL OUT THE MOTE
OUT OF THINE EYE;'


and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5. "Thou Hypocrite, first cast out the beam
out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly
to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
6. "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs,
neither cast ye your pearls before swine,
lest they trample them under their feet,
and turn again and rend you."


. MATTHEW 28:16-20.

16. Then the eleven Disciples
went away into Galilee,
into a mountain
where Jesus had appointed them.
17. And when they saw him,
they worshipped him:
but some doubted.
18. And Jesus came
and spake unto them,
saying,
"All Power is given unto me
in Heaven and in Earth.
19. "Go ye therefore,
and Teach all nations,
baptizing them
in The Name of the Father,
and of the Son,
and of the Holy Ghost:
20. "Teaching them to observe
all things whatsoever
I have Commanded you:
and, lo,
I am with you alway,
even unto The End of The World." Amen.


. JOHN 8:51-53.

51. "Verily, verily, I say unto you,

'IF A MAN KEEP MY SAYING,
HE SHALL NEVER SEE DEATH.' "


52. Then said the Jews unto him,
"Now we know that thou hast a devil.
Abraham is dead, and the Prophets;
and thou sayest,


'IF A MAN KEEP MY SAYING,
HE SHALL NEVER TASTE OF DEATH.'


53. "Art thou greater than our father Abraham,
which is dead?
and the Prophets are dead:
whom makest thou thyself?"


SINCE THE DISCIPLES DID NOT TEACH EVERYTHING YAHSHUA HAD COMMANDED THEM, THEY COULD NOT CLAIM THE POWER OVER DEATH THAT HE HAD LEFT THEM.

. JOHN 14:12.

12. "Verily, verily, I say unto you,

'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME,
THE WORKS THAT I DO
SHALL HE DO ALSO;'


and greater (Works) than these
shall he do;
because I go unto my Father."


BELIEVERS ON YAHSHUA DO THE WORKS OF YAHSHUA.

What could be simpler?
Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch: 2:44pm On Mar 31, 2017
With a brain like this you should be replacing Richard Dawkins very soon. Best of luck
hahn:


Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by oaroloye(m): 5:00pm On Mar 31, 2017
SHALOM!

ScienceWatch:
You will do well to only copy and paste. Your own opinions are confusing.

I am not to blame for you lack of Wisdom and Understanding: YOU ARE!

. JOB 28:28.

28. "And unto Man He said,

'BEHOLD, THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT (IS) WISDOM;
AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL
(IS) UNDERSTANDING.' "


. DANIEL 12:10.

10. "Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried;
but the Wicked shall do wickedly:
and none of the wicked shall understand;
but the Wise shall understand."


IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND, IT IS ONLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE WICKED BELIEFS THAT YOU REFUSE TO RELINQUISH.

Who told you to believe in "APOSTLES?"

When did that happen?

THINK!

Only YAHSHUA is THE WAY- but these people USED HIS NAME to MISLEAD people, and did not do what Yahshua Commanded them to do.

There is nothing difficult to understand about that.

. MATTHEW 23:1-15.

THEN spake Jesus to the multitude,
and to his Disciples,
2. Saying,
"The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe,
that observe and do;
but do not ye after their works:
for they say,
and do not.
4. "For they bind heavy burdens
and grievous to be borne,
and lay them on men's shoulders;
but they themselves
will not move them
with one of their fingers.
5. "But all their works
they do for to be seen of men:
they make broad their phylacteries,
and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6. "And love the Uppermost Rooms at feasts,
and the Chief Seats in the Synagogues,
7. "And greetings in the markets,
and to be called of men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.'
8. "But be not ye called 'Rabbi:'
for one is your Master, even Christ;
and all ye are Brethren.
9. "And call no man your father upon the Earth:
for one is your Father,
Which is in Heaven.
10. "Neither be ye called masters:
for one is your Master,
(even) Christ.
11. "But he that is greatest among you
shall be your servant.
12. "And whosoever shall exalt himself
shall be abased;
and he that shall humble himself
shall be exalted.
13. "But woe unto you,
Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites!
for ye shut up The Kingdom of Heaven
against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves,
neither suffer ye them that are entering
to go in.
14. "Woe unto you,
Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites!
for ye devour widows' houses,
and for a pretence make long prayer:
therefore ye shall receive
The Greater Damnation.
15. "Woe unto you,
Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites!
for ye compass Sea and Land
to make one proselyte,
and when he is made,
ye make him
twofold more the Child of Hell
than yourselves."


THIS IS AS A PROPHECY OF WHAT THE DISCIPLES WOULD BECOME, IF THEY SUCCUMBED TO THE LEAVEN OF THE PHARISEES.

Do you have a WIFE?

If YOU died, is it OKAY for your Church to BURY YOU without informing your WIFE?

Then, when your wife finally comes to Church, instead of telling her that you died, they instead interrogate her about money?

In what Universe is that sort of behavior acceptable?

Which part of:

. MATTHEW 7:12.

12. "Therefore all things
whatsoever ye would
that men should do to you,
do ye even so to them:
for this is The Law
and The Prophets."


WHAT SORT OF RELIGION ARE WE PREACHING, WHERE THAT IS ALLOWED?
Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by oaroloye(m): 5:08pm On Mar 31, 2017
ScienceWatch:
Your copy and paste make some sense but your own thinking is very skewed. You make an ideal candidate for Atheism. HAHN will welcome you warmly.

My "COPY AND PASTE" is THE WORD OF GOD.

Which you evidently HATE, because you cannot quote a single verse to support your wicked views.

How is my thinking "skewed?"

I pointed out how YAHSHUA forbade his Disciples from raining death down on people, just because they did not show them love, and he explicitly stated that HE HAD NOT COME TO DESTROY MEN'S LIVES, BUT TO SAVE THEM.

Therefore, when PETER was presiding over the deaths of the two Brethren, it was THE SPIRIT OF SATAN that he was operating by YET AGAIN.

How can the situation be more clear?

How dare you call me an ATHEIST for CONFESSING THE WORDS OF THE LORD!
Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch: 7:40pm On Mar 31, 2017
oaroloye:


My "COPY AND PASTE" is THE WORD OF GOD.

Which you evidently HATE, because you cannot quote a single verse to support your wicked views.

How is my thinking "skewed?"

I pointed out how YAHSHUA forbade his Disciples from raining death down on people, just because they did not show them love, and he explicitly stated that HE HAD NOT COME TO DESTROY MEN'S LIVES, BUT TO SAVE THEM.

Therefore, when PETER was presiding over the deaths of the two Brethren, it was THE SPIRIT OF SATAN that he was operating by YET AGAIN.

How can the situation be more clear?

How dare you call me an ATHEIST for CONFESSING THE WORDS OF THE LORD!
Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch: 8:05pm On Mar 31, 2017
oaroloye:


My "COPY AND PASTE" is THE WORD OF GOD.

Which you evidently HATE, because you cannot quote a single verse to support your wicked views.

How is my thinking "skewed?"

I pointed out how YAHSHUA forbade his Disciples from raining death down on people, just because they did not show them love, and he explicitly stated that HE HAD NOT COME TO DESTROY MEN'S LIVES, BUT TO SAVE THEM.

Therefore, when PETER was presiding over the deaths of the two Brethren, it was THE SPIRIT OF SATAN that he was operating by YET AGAIN.

How can the situation be more clear?

How dare you call me an ATHEIST for CONFESSING THE WORDS OF THE LORD!
Can your opinion be trusted on lofty issues of scripture, when your readily skew my mention above.

Read it again, I never said you are an Atheist!

You are a prime candidate for Atheism because of your nonsensical opinions on scripture.

You can copy and paste thousands of scriptures but your own interpretations are terribly skewed.
Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch: 11:22am On Apr 01, 2017
JMAN05:


Jesus didn't call it fake miracles and wonders as if it didn't happen. These false prophets will wrought real miracles that can be verified as having happened. But God is not their backer. Acts 16:16: Exod 7:11,12

With such miracles, you would think that God is backing him up, but you use the Bible to analyse any such persons. Act 17:11.
INCREDIBLE ! Over 250 million followers world-wide of the Holy Scoan church Nigeria, confirm that the Miracle healing, deliverance and mind-blowing blessings are very real.

The fact that millions of honest people of all walks of life are brave enough to stand up in public and proclaim that the mighty Jesus heals, delivers and blesses through the Holy Prophet TB Joshua is enough to shame the hateful doubters.

These Satanic persons respond with hate, envy and jealousy just like the Jews did when Gods great love was practically demonstrated through miracle healing, evil spirit deliverance and material blessing.

Their Satanic inspired hatred, envy and jealousy propel them to falsify the true meanings of Holy scriptures to deceive the masses and even the chosen ones. They find no joy in hearing millions of personal testimonies of mind-blowing instant healings etc.

These Satanic inspired persons resent the millions that are miraculously healed, while they suffer at the hands of doctors and man-made medications with deadly bonus diseases/ side-effects etc.

When the mighty Jesus heals using the hands of the Holy Prophet TB Joshua, why not shut-up and humble yourselves to learn what God is doing.

It is the will of God that we experience His mighty miraculous POWER !

It is said about the Holy Prophet TB Joshua, that He is anointed beyond modern understanding. word says: greater miracles that Jesus commanded of all Chosen Pastors – inspiring different opinions about him, some call Him the younger brother of Jesus, others say he’s the Elijah of our Generation.

Still others say He is the continuation of Jesus Christ – But the common thread that runs through all these opinions is the reference to Him as a certain unique being of celestial nature.

But is there any truth in these claims?, are there enough proofs?

Scripture itself and the millions of world-wide personal testimonies of mind-blowing scientifically verifiable results speak for itself.

Who really is the Holy Prophet TB Joshua?

The Truth is, nobody can authoritatively describe how TB Joshua’s journey on earth began or how it will end, neither can any human being actually comprehend TB Joshua’s autobiography or his mission on earth. Most human minds are too afraid of the shame the truth will reveal. This TRUTH will shame them. As a result, they fear other people more than God.
Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch: 11:26am On Apr 01, 2017
oaroloye:


My "COPY AND PASTE" is THE WORD OF GOD.

Which you evidently HATE, because you cannot quote a single verse to support your wicked views.

How is my thinking "skewed?"

I pointed out how YAHSHUA forbade his Disciples from raining death down on people, just because they did not show them love, and he explicitly stated that HE HAD NOT COME TO DESTROY MEN'S LIVES, BUT TO SAVE THEM.

Therefore, when PETER was presiding over the deaths of the two Brethren, it was THE SPIRIT OF SATAN that he was operating by YET AGAIN.

How can the situation be more clear?

How dare you call me an ATHEIST for CONFESSING THE WORDS OF THE LORD!
INCREDIBLE[/b] ! Over 250 million followers world-wide of the Holy Scoan church Nigeria, confirm that the Miracle healing, deliverance and mind-blowing blessings are very real.

The fact that millions of honest people of all walks of life are brave enough to stand up in public and proclaim that the mighty Jesus heals, delivers and blesses through the Holy Prophet TB Joshua is enough to shame the hateful doubters.

These Satanic persons respond with hate, envy and jealousy just like the Jews did when Gods great love was practically demonstrated through miracle healing, evil spirit deliverance and material blessing.

Their Satanic inspired hatred, envy and jealousy propel them to falsify the true meanings of Holy scriptures to deceive the masses and even the chosen ones. They find no joy in hearing millions of personal testimonies of mind-blowing instant healings etc.

These Satanic inspired persons resent the millions that are miraculously healed, while they suffer at the hands of doctors and man-made medications with deadly bonus diseases/ side-effects etc.

When the mighty Jesus heals using the hands of the Holy Prophet TB Joshua, why not shut-up and humble yourselves to learn what God is doing.

It is the will of God that we experience His mighty miraculous POWER !

It is said about the Holy Prophet TB Joshua, that He is anointed beyond modern understanding. word says: greater miracles that Jesus commanded of all Chosen Pastors – inspiring different opinions about him, some call Him the younger brother of Jesus, others say he’s the Elijah of our Generation.

Still others say He is the continuation of Jesus Christ – But the common thread that runs through all these opinions is the reference to Him as a certain unique being of celestial nature.

But is there any truth in these claims?, are there enough proofs?

Scripture itself and the millions of world-wide personal testimonies of mind-blowing scientifically verifiable results speak for itself.

Who really is the Holy Prophet TB Joshua?

The Truth is, nobody can authoritatively describe how TB Joshua’s journey on earth began or how it will end, neither can any human being actually comprehend TB Joshua’s autobiography or his mission on earth. Most human minds are too afraid of the shame the truth will reveal. This TRUTH will shame them. As a result, they fear other people more than God.

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