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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by policy12: 7:29pm On Dec 04, 2016
Baba still dey wash the stains Naija Pdp...

Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by omonnakoda: 7:37pm On Dec 04, 2016
kettle84:
For your information, igbos have built more relationship than any section. look around you and see them living peaceful everywhere without fear without Favour but hardwork and resilience.

we have supported others ,shagari ,yar adua,Good luck,obj and MKO in elections what relationship is morethan these.

Namdi Azukiwe,Alvan ikoku,Aguiyi ironsi, contributed to Nigerias independence.

Ngozi okonjo,soludo, Dora Akunyili,Frank nweke etc contributed in shaping modern Nigeria.

the igbos deserve a shot and every support to the presidency come 2023.

The north's turn is running until 2023.
there must be a balance even if it is not conspicuous but it must be understood for national balance.

Good bless Nigeria
If what you say is true put it to the test at the elections . No one has become civilian President any other way so it cannot be different for Igbos and Igbos are not the only ones who have not been President.Are they more important that the Edos or Urhobo or Efik.Does the Balance argument not apply to Hausa people too?So far we have never elected a Hausa man as President.What about Tivs and Idoma and Igala .Whatever case the Igbos want to make let them put it in the court of elections

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by CSTR13: 8:23pm On Dec 04, 2016
SillyMods:

The same Okorocha you guys deride and call unprintable names for aligning with Buhari? Same Orji Kali that was cursed for joining APC?

Well, I don't have a problem with an Igbo becoming president just that it is highly doubtful with the way you guys show unnecessary hatred towards the Hausa and Yoruba man.

One minute you want the presidency, the next one you want Biafra.

You have to be stable. You can't blackmail Nigeria to give you the presidency. It can't work that way.
Yes, we deride him for our own reasons but he would win the presidency with our votes.
There is no blackmailing being done here. Okorocha will defeat any yoruba man in any national election.
We are more politically stable than yorubas will ever be . You guys can't be trusted.
Your chamelionic nature is what is causing the north to have problems with your people.

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by CSTR13: 8:25pm On Dec 04, 2016
omonnakoda:
If what you say is true put it to the test at the elections . No one has become civilian President any other way so it cannot be different for Igbos and Igbos are not the only ones who have not been President.Are they more important that the Edos or Urhobo or Efik.Does the Balance argument not apply to Hausa people too?So far we have never elected a Hausa man as President.What about Tivs and Idoma and Igala .Whatever case the Igbos want to make let them put it in the court of elections
Yes, we are more important to the economy of this country than virtually any other single ethnic group.
Comparing edos, urhobos and whoever to the value the igbo nation offers Nigeria is just laughable.

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by omonnakoda: 8:28pm On Dec 04, 2016
CSTR13:
Yes, we are more important to the economy of this country than virtually any other single ethnic group.
Comparing edos, urhobos and whoever to the value the igbo nation offers Nigeria is just laughable.
That is the spirit that will get you the presidency ,kudos

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by CSTR13: 8:31pm On Dec 04, 2016
omonnakoda:
That is the spirit that will get you the presidency ,kudos
You underestimate the intelligence of people to cut through your afonja bullshitt.
Even with all your hob-nobbing, the north is cutting the wings of your leaders and turning its attention to the more politically stable, politically honest east.
We will get the presidency honourably. With or without afonja support.

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by omonnakoda: 8:32pm On Dec 04, 2016
CSTR13:
You underestimate the intelligence of people to cut through your afonja bullshitt.
Even with all your hob-nobbing, the north is cutting the wings of your leaders and turning its attention to the more politically stable, politically honest east.
We will get the presidency honourably. With or without afonja support.
Sure
Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by SillyMods: 5:48am On Dec 05, 2016
CSTR13:
Yes, we deride him for our own reasons but he would win the presidency with our votes.
There is no blackmailing being done here. Okorocha will defeat any yoruba man in any national election.
We are more politically stable than yorubas will ever be . You guys can't be trusted.
Your chamelionic nature is what is causing the north to have problems with your people.
Since 1999, Yorubas were able to form alliance successfully with the North to have the presidency for eight years. Where were the "reliable Igbos"?

It was the Yoruba votes that helped GEJ to win in 2011. Take out Yoruba votes from his figure then, and PMB would have been president.

In 2015, Yorubas once again proved to be the tribe with the trump card by successfully aligning with the North to make PMB president whereas Igbo votes didn't matter at all grin grin

So, from historical record, it's the Igbos that cannot be relied upon cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by SillyMods: 5:48am On Dec 05, 2016
CSTR13:
Yes, we are more important to the economy of this country than virtually any other single ethnic group.
Comparing edos, urhobos and whoever to the value the igbo nation offers Nigeria is just laughable.
What are those values? grin grin grin
Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by bigass(f): 7:08am On Dec 05, 2016
CSTR13:
Yes, we are more important to the economy of this country than virtually any other single ethnic group.
Comparing edos, urhobos and whoever to the value the igbo nation offers Nigeria is just laughable.

The statement. ... we are more important than any other group..... can not win you presidency. . It shows domineering spirit. .absolute tribalism and we are not having that.

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by bigass(f): 7:10am On Dec 05, 2016
SillyMods:

What are those values? grin grin grin


Drugs barron in Singapore.... those are the value.

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by CSTR13: 8:42am On Dec 05, 2016
bigass:


The statement. ... we are more important than any other group..... can not win you presidency. . It shows domineering spirit. .absolute tribalism and we are not having that.
But it is the truth.
If you hate the truth, you can not move forward. I will not apologize for igbo exceptionalism.
The hausa-fulani that controls your presidency for eons, publicly declare their dominance on the rest on the rest of the country time and time again, and yet you have not stopped them from winning the presidency.
Infact, they will win again in 2019.

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by CSTR13: 8:43am On Dec 05, 2016
bigass:



Drugs barron in Singapore.... those are the value.
So you are a tribalist, talking about igbo tribalism.
Don't bother replying to my earlier post. I don't value your opinion.

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by CSTR13: 8:46am On Dec 05, 2016
SillyMods:

What are those values? grin grin grin
Values of industry, meritocracy and hardwork.
That is why an igbo nation will never be poor. Our people are our greatest assets.
Ebonyi state is set to pay a 13 month salary. How many states can even pay a 12 month salary?

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by SillyMods: 8:49am On Dec 05, 2016
CSTR13:
Values of industry, meritocracy and hardwork.
That is why an igbo nation will never be poor. Our people are our greatest assets.
Ebonyi state is set to pay a 13 month salary. How many states can even pay a 12 month salary?
You tried but you didn't include the number 1 and number 2 values!

grin grin grin

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by CSTR13: 8:52am On Dec 05, 2016
SillyMods:

You tried but you didn't include the number 1 and number 2 values!

grin grin grin
Why not include the number 3 and number 4 according to afonja.?

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by darknetcom: 9:16am On Dec 05, 2016
why the hell should we vote that mentaly sick woman??..

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by QuotaSystem: 9:26am On Dec 05, 2016
CSTR13:
Yes, we are more important to the economy of this country than virtually any other single ethnic group.
Comparing edos, urhobos and whoever to the value the igbo nation offers Nigeria is just laughable.

This attitude underlines one of the fundamental reasons why it is nearly impossible for Nigerians, particularly northerners, to elect an ibo man as President.

It comes next in ranking to your renowned inherent tendency to secede. The highest position that the North will support an Ibo man to reach in Nigeria is the VP a.k.a mere commissioner position and that is only so he can be used as a stepping stone to the Presidency.

When the Presidency eventually returns to the South in 2023/27, it will be most likely a Yoruba or southern minority candidate.
Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by CSTR13: 9:26am On Dec 05, 2016
SillyMods:

Since 1999, Yorubas were able to form alliance successfully with the North to have the presidency for eight years. Where were the "reliable Igbos"?

It was the Yoruba votes that helped GEJ to win in 2011. Take out Yoruba votes from his figure then, and PMB would have been president.

In 2015, Yorubas once again proved to be the tribe with the trump card by successfully aligning with the North to make PMB president whereas Igbo votes didn't matter at all grin grin

So, from historical record, it's the Igbos that cannot be relied upon cheesy cheesy cheesy

That is a lie.
OBJ was not a yoruba consensus candidate, and he knew it. Your leaders didn't support him and he dealt with them all including tinubu.
OBJ your new-found son relied on the east and the north to win.
His government was even dominated by igbos and the north.

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by SillyMods: 9:28am On Dec 05, 2016
CSTR13:
That is a lie.
OBJ was not a yoruba consensus candidate, and he knew it. Your leaders didn't support him and he dealt with them all including tinubu.
OBJ your new-found son relied on the east and the north to win.
His government was even dominated by igbos and the north.
OK. OBJ is an Igbo then. Take am. grin grin
Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by CSTR13: 9:30am On Dec 05, 2016
QuotaSystem:


This attitude underlines one of the fundamental reasons why it is nearly impossible for Nigerians, particularly northerners, to elect an ibo man as President.

It comes next in ranking to your renowned inherent tendency to secede. The highest position that the North will support an Ibo man to reach in Nigeria is the VP a.k.a mere commissioner position and that is only so they can be used as a stepping stone to the Presidency.
But the north has said far more than that and they have always won elections. The likes of ciroma, sanusi, and the likes have always been arrogantly pro-north and they are still power brokers
And btw, you don't speak for the north even if you hail from there. Okorocha will win the presidency today if he contests against any individual in the south.
Infact there are very few northern candidates who can win him.

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by CSTR13: 9:32am On Dec 05, 2016
SillyMods:

OK. OBJ is an Igbo then. Take am. grin grin
Go and claim him na.
The same OBJ that decimated your jagaban and many of your regional party leaders and seized the allocations of lagos state.

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by QuotaSystem: 9:42am On Dec 05, 2016
CSTR13:
But the north has said far more than that and they have always won elections. The likes of ciroma, sanusi, and the likes have always been arrogantly pro-north and they are still power brokers
And btw, you don't speak for the north even if you hail from there. Okorocha will win the presidency today if he contests against any individual in the south.
Infact there are very few northern candidates who can win him.

Firstly, all fingers are not equal. The North has the electoral muscle to make such pronouncements. You simply don't.

Secondly, while Rochas is presently your most only acceptable candidate, he is still a Nyamiri to an average northerner, and we know he has already been rejected by his own people and is prone to be rejected in any election so that's a political gamble that is too risky to take. The only way Rochas can be President is through northern votes and believe me when I say the it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for an easterner to secure northern votes for the Presidency. You keep stating that 1966 is unforgettable so this shouldn't be too hard for you to understand.

You still have the freedom to believe whatever else you'd like nonetheless.

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by CSTR13: 9:48am On Dec 05, 2016
QuotaSystem:


Firstly, all fingers are not equal. The North has the electoral muscle to make such pronouncements. You simply don't.

Secondly, while Rochas is your most acceptable candidate, he is still an Ibo man to an average northerner, and we know he has been rejected by his own people and is prone to be rejected in any elections so that's a political commitment that is too risky. The only way Rochas can be President us through northern votes and believe me when I say the it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for an easterner to secure northern votes for the Presidency. You keep stating that 1966 is unforgettable so this shouldn't be too hard for you to understand.

You still have the freedom to believe whatever else you'd like nonetheless.
Is it the same okorocha that has streets named after him in the north? Or the same one with complete access to any emir palace in the north.?
Is it the same okorocha that is in most northern inner cycles? Why do you think many of his people don't trust him?.
You are pulling facts from thin air or from your own personal anti-igbo biasis which is irrelevant as far as i am concerned. It is not grounded in reality.
The north is making concessions to the east in real life. Your leaders are trooping to the east in anticipation of a political shift. Okorocha is currently the most influential southern APC leader.
If the north does not vote him, then who will they vote for in the south? Jagaban? cheesy

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by QuotaSystem: 10:02am On Dec 05, 2016
CSTR13:
Is it the same okorocha that has streets named after him in the north? Or the same one with complete access to any emir palace in the north.?
Is it the same okorocha that is in most northern inner cycles? Why do you think many of his people don't trust him?.
You are pulling facts from thin air or from your own personal anti-igbo biasis which is irrelevant as far as i am concerned. It is not grounded in reality.
The north is making concessions to the east in real life. Your leaders are trooping to the east in anticipation of a political shift. Okorocha is currently the most influential southern APC leader.
If the north does not vote him, then who will they vote for in the south? Jagaban? cheesy

Which streets? The old court road in Sabon Gari which was renamed after him and which other?

Access to Emirs Places like every other governor? Did you just say "complete"? You crack me up. Can you state the inner circle that Rochas is within? Your inherent tendency to secede is a fact from thin air? Grow up.

Let me restate an obvious fact. The reason Rochas is accepted in the North is because he is an effective tool in the regions hands and defers to it's interests against his own region's. He also has a fascination for the rich northern culture he was exposed to in his formative years in the North which is quite endearing.

When we are talking Presidency however, that's totally another kettle of fish. But as I stated earlier, you have the liberty to believe otherwise.
Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by CSTR13: 10:11am On Dec 05, 2016
QuotaSystem:


Which streets? The old court road in Sabon Gari which was renamed after him and which other?

Access to Emirs Places like every other governor? Did you just say "complete"? Grow up. Can you state the inner circle that Rochas is within?

Let me restate an obvious fact. The reason Rochas is accepted in the North is because he is an effective tool in the regions hands and defers to it's interests against his own region's. He also has a fascination for the rich northern culture he was exposed to in his formative years in the North which is quite endearing.

When we are talking Presidency however, that's totally another kettle of fish. But as I stated earlier, you have the liberty to believe otherwise.
Which other southerner apart from president jonathan has a single shop named after him in the north in recent times?
Which southerner in recent times have as much as widepread support in the north as okorocha?I really don't know what you are talking about here. Many if not most of the almajiris(under-aged and over-aged) , that would vote are beneficiaries of his philantropism.
On one hand, you say okorocha is a tool for northern interest and yet you say they won't vote for him because he is an igbo man or whatever.
Unless, the north wants to rule forever, power will have to come south sometime, and there is no other politician in the south assured of northern support like okorocha. Atleast, they trust him to further their interests. I may not agree with that but that is the truth.
He may a northern tool, but that is not the point in question. It even helps him in the whole backward political equation.

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Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by omonnakoda: 10:38am On Dec 05, 2016
The only way we will know whether you have widespread support is after an election.Let us put that to the test
Re: Atiku And Okonjo Iweala For 2019 Presidential Election by orisa37: 11:20am On Dec 05, 2016
Makerfi/NOI is very much better or Lamido/NOI

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