what a deceiver you are
you added this part later to your post after i had already replied to it:

Tfbaby:
I just pray you're spiritually intelligent to get this

Matt.24.14 - And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Sir let me ask you what you understand by witness unto all nations?

this is your original post which i replied to:

Tfbaby:


Ohhhh so you've read it, you should I've stated this earlier now instead of going off track

and now you have added to it yet again in your latest post to me:

Tfbaby:


Ohhhh so you've read it, you should I've stated this earlier now instead of going off track

I just pray you're spiritually intelligent to get this
You see the coming of Jesus Christ is not something that is hard for those that have spiritual intelligence and those that a have the knowledge of spiritual counting

Acts.1.8 - But when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, you will receive power and will tell people about me everywhere--in Jerusalem, throughout Judea, in Samaria, and to the ends of the earth." [NLT]

Matt.24.14 - And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Sir let me ask you what you understand by witness unto all nations?
Can you categorically state that witnesses has been staked at every nation of the world?
I mean witnesses not Church Goer's

@bold, matt 24:14 is very clear and means just what it says, there is no secret meaning there
witness unto all nations is of course witness unto the peoples of all the nations

this has been ongoing since Christ, and also a angel will preach the gospel to all the peoples of the nations soon before the coming of Christ
this preaching could be soon for all we know and so Jesus coming could be soon for all we know
matt 24:14 does not show that Jesus cannot come soon, it's just your lack of understanding of God's word


Mat 24:14  "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.

Rev 14:6  And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, having an eternal gospel to preach to those who live on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people;

about deceivers liars:

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


no i won't be reading daniel 10&11, it's clear you know nothing

johnw47:

^^^ unbiblical mumbo jumbo

I knew it, you're not spiritual

Tfbaby:


I knew it, you're not spiritual

you can believe me
i'm not into unbiblical mumbo jumbo

johnw47:



what a deceiver you are
you added this part later to your post after i had already replied to it:




this is your original post which i replied to:





and now you have added to it yet again in your latest post to me:







@bold, matt 24:14 is very clear and means just what it says, there is no secret meaning there
witness unto all nations is of course witness unto the peoples of all the nations

this has been ongoing since Christ, and also a angel will preach the gospel to all the peoples of the nations soon before the coming of Christ
this preaching could be soon for all we know and so Jesus coming could be soon for all we know
matt 24:14 does not show that Jesus cannot come soon, it's just your lack of understanding of God's word


Mat 24:14  "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.

Rev 14:6  And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, having an eternal gospel to preach to those who live on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people;

about deceivers liars:

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


no i won't be reading daniel 10&11, it's clear you know nothing

Matt.24.14 - And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. [KJV]

And then shall the end come.
Nawaooo....before the end of the world their must be witnesses everywhere witnesses are not believers nor saint they are perfect men
So you want to know about the end of the world but you don't want to read Daniel 10 you are funny

johnw47:


you can believe me
i'm not into unbiblical mumbo jumbo

Take it or leave it. We are the ones that will determine when Jesus will come
Don't worry your verse is here Heb.5.11 - Concerning this we have much to say which is hard to explain, since you have become dull in your [spiritual] hearing and sluggish [even slothful in achieving spiritual insight]. [AMP]

johnw47:



what a deceiver you are
you added this part later to your post after i had already replied to it:




this is your original post which i replied to:





and now you have added to it yet again in your latest post to me:







@bold, matt 24:14 is very clear and means just what it says, there is no secret meaning there
witness unto all nations is of course witness unto the peoples of all the nations

this has been ongoing since Christ, and also a angel will preach the gospel to all the peoples of the nations soon before the coming of Christ
this preaching could be soon for all we know and so Jesus coming could be soon for all we know
matt 24:14 does not show that Jesus cannot come soon, it's just your lack of understanding of God's word


Mat 24:14  "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.

Rev 14:6  And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, having an eternal gospel to preach to those who live on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people;

about deceivers liars:

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


no i won't be reading daniel 10&11, it's clear you know nothing

Sir what's the function of modify?
Can't I modify my post?

johnw47:



what a deceiver you are
you added this part later to your post after i had already replied to it:




this is your original post which i replied to:





and now you have added to it yet again in your latest post to me:







@bold, matt 24:14 is very clear and means just what it says, there is no secret meaning there
witness unto all nations is of course witness unto the peoples of all the nations

this has been ongoing since Christ, and also a angel will preach the gospel to all the peoples of the nations soon before the coming of Christ
this preaching could be soon for all we know and so Jesus coming could be soon for all we know
matt 24:14 does not show that Jesus cannot come soon, it's just your lack of understanding of God's word


Mat 24:14  "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.

I don't know how you read your Bible sir cos what am seeing here states that something must happen before the end of the world,
the question here is as it happened?
No
How soon do you think its going to happen?
Not in a century time

So if something is not gonna happen in a 100 years time then how is it soon if we are to use human counting, sir anything above 100 years is a long period of time to human

johnw47:


Rev 14:6  And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, having an eternal gospel to preach to those who live on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people;

Rev.14.7 - He preached in a loud voice, "Fear God and give him glory! His hour of judgment has come! Worship the Maker of Heaven and earth, salt sea and fresh water!" [MSB]

Now you're talking about Angel's preaching are they preaching the gospel of Christ?
Note "the hour of judgement has come"

This Friday, we will enter the month of Abib. There is something very important about the month of Abib: it was in this month that Israel was redeemed from the hands of Pharoah, King of Egypt.

Exodus 13:3-4
And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage; for by strength of hand the LORD brought you out from this place: there shall no leavened bread be eaten.
4 This day came ye out in the month Abib.

Lavidalocaa:
Haven't seen you in sch area in a while, hope you're good

yup exam and stuffs, how's you coping?

Tfbaby:


Matt.24.14 - And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. [KJV]

And then shall the end come.
Nawaooo....before the end of the world their must be witnesses everywhere witnesses are not believers nor saint they are perfect men
So you want to know about the end of the world but you don't want to read Daniel 10 you are funny

you have no understanding of the scriptures


matthew 24:14 is not about unbelieving witnesses
but about the gospel being witnessed, and that's been happening since Christ, by believers of course

Mat 24:14 Mat 24:14  And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. 

Tfbaby:


Take it or leave it. We are the ones that will determine when Jesus will come
Don't worry your verse is here Heb.5.11 - Concerning this we have much to say which is hard to explain, since you have become dull in your [spiritual] hearing and sluggish [even slothful in achieving spiritual insight]. [AMP]

so you are just another one in this place who cannot stop lying:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Tfbaby:


Sir what's the function of modify?
Can't I modify my post?

you done the modifications after i had responded to it and after we had posted a few more times
and then you said "still waiting for your reply"
which i had replied to

like i said you are a deceiver

Tfbaby:


I don't know how you read your Bible sir cos what am seeing here states that something must happen before the end of the world,
the question here is as it happened?
No
How soon do you think its going to happen?
Not in a century time

So if something is not gonna happen in a 100 years time then how is it soon if we are to use human counting, sir anything above 100 years is a long period of time to human

you keep showing you have no understanding
the gospel is being preached to all nations, and has been since Christ

the scripture you posted does not show that Christ cannot come soon, you fail miserably

Mat 24:14 Mat 24:14  And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. 

Tfbaby:


Rev.14.7 - He preached in a loud voice, "Fear God and give him glory! His hour of judgment has come! Worship the Maker of Heaven and earth, salt sea and fresh water!" [MSB]

Now you're talking about Angel's preaching

yes a angel does preach to all on earth, try believing God's word:

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, having an eternal gospel to preach to those who live on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people;

this could happen soon for all we know, so Christ's return also could be soon

Tfbaby:
are they preaching the gospel of Christ?

the everlasting Kingdom is Christ's
everlasting Salvation is Christ's
what does verse 7 say?
it is Jesus who judges,
it is Jesus that made heaven and earth

yes the everlasting gospel the angel will preach shortly before the return of Christ
is the everlasting gospel of Christ

Tfbaby:
Note "the hour of judgement has come"

oh duh, john was telling of a future event, it didn't happen 2000 years ago
it hasn't happened yet, but it could happen soon

shadeyinka:

I think you should stick to that which is plainly made plain by the scriptures. People who are not Christians and even agents of satan also read and post on this thread. Let's be careful

wouldn't one who perverts scripture to preach sex in heaven and reincarnation
also be a agent of satan?

Tfbaby :


Ohhhh so you've read it, you should I've stated this earlier now instead of going off track

i said earlier: "matthew 24 is not scriptual proof that Jesus cannot come soon"

that would have been enough for a person of even little intelligence and understanding
to know that i read it

johnw47:

matthew 24 is not scriptual proof that Jesus cannot come soon
you have to do better than that

Tfbaby:
To humanity Jesus has been gone for over 2000 years but in the spiritual realm Jesus has not left the world for more than 6hours and some minutes

NB: Learn spiritual counting sir
The level of your spirituality determines the level of your revelations

don't post off topic to the thread

take it to the comedy section

johnw47:




you have no understanding of the scriptures


matthew 24:14 is not about unbelieving witnesses
but about the gospel being witnessed, and that's been happening since Christ, by believers of course

Mat 24:14 Mat 24:14  And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. 

You still don't get it, this as simple as ABC Matthew 24 said witnesses must be staked everywhere before the coming of Christ now has witnesses been staked everywhere?

johnw47:


don't post off topic to the thread

take it to the comedy section

Sir you need spiritual intelligence

johnw47:



yes a angel does preach to all on earth, try believing God's word:

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, having an eternal gospel to preach to those who live on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people;

this could happen soon for all we know, so Christ's return also could be soon



the everlasting Kingdom is Christ's
everlasting Salvation is Christ's
what does verse 7 say?
it is Jesus who judges,
it is Jesus that made heaven and earth

yes the everlasting gospel the angel will preach shortly before the return of Christ
is the everlasting gospel of Christ




oh duh, john was telling of a future event, it didn't happen 2000 years ago
it hasn't happened yet, but it could happen soon

Everyone mature Christian knows that Revelation 14 talks about the judgement day you don't only need to read scriptures be in it
The Angels were not preaching any Gospel sir, they were talking about the judgement day is it possible to preach salvation on the judgement day?
If you think Angels will preach salvation then that's your level of understanding

1Pet.1.12 - All they were told was that they were serving you, you who by orders from heaven have now heard for yourselves--through the Holy Spirit--the Message of those prophecies fulfilled. Do you realize how fortunate you are? Angels would have given anything to be in on this! [MSB]
1Cor.6.3 - Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? [KJV]

johnw47:



you done the modifications after i had responded to it and after we had posted a few more times
and then you said "still waiting for your reply"
which i had replied to

like i said you are a deceiver

You're making it sound like "still waiting for your reply" is offensive

Tfbaby:

Don't worry your verse is here Heb.5.11 - Concerning this we have much to say which is hard to explain, since you have become dull in your [spiritual] hearing and sluggish [even slothful in achieving spiritual insight]. [AMP]

You see the reason why I gave you this scripture ba, cos Matthew 24:14 is like an introduction and you've already missed it once the foundation is destroyed what can the righteous do

johnw47:



wouldn't one who perverts scripture to preache sex in heaven and reincarnation
also be a agent of satan?

When one looks too much into the logos any scripture can be made to say something else. Moreover, some children of God are borrowed unknowingly by the devil

Tfbaby:


You still don't get it, this as simple as ABC Matthew 24 said witnesses must be staked everywhere before the coming of Christ now has witnesses been staked everywhere?

talk about not getting it
and for the second time
the gospel is preached as a witness to all nations, the gospel is the witness to the nations
not
witnesses must be staked everywhere before the coming of Christ
you non understanding of such a simple verse is amazing

Mat 24:14  And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. 

Tfbaby:


Sir you need spiritual intelligence

you need any kind of intelligence

Tfbaby:

Everyone mature Christian knows that Revelation 14 talks about the judgement day you don't only need to read scriptures be in it
The Angels were not preaching any Gospel sir, they were talking about the judgement day is it possible to preach salvation on the judgement day?
If you think Angels will preach salvation then that's your level of understanding
1Pet.1.12 - All they were told was that they were serving you, you who by orders from heaven have now heard for yourselves--through the Holy Spirit--the Message of those prophecies fulfilled. Do you realize how fortunate you are? Angels would have given anything to be in on this! [MSB]
1Cor.6.3 - Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? [KJV]

talk about level of understanding, you have none

i used:
the everlasting Kingdom is Christ's
everlasting Salvation is Christ's
what does verse 7 say?
it is Jesus who judges,
it is Jesus that made heaven and earth

to show that the gospel preached will be the gospel of Christ
and that's how all people will know it is Christ who then comes on the clouds





you sure are confused twisting and jumping all over the place

truly the angel will preach a everlasting gospel, and truly you don't understand or believe God's word
or what is said

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, having an eternal gospel to preach to those who live on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people;

Tfbaby:


You're making it sound like "still waiting for your reply" is offensive

you don't understand anything at all
or you love to lie and deceive

Pro_14:8  The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way: but the folly of fools is deceit

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Tfbaby:

You see the reason why I gave you this scripture ba, cos Matthew 24:14 is like an introduction and you've already missed it once the foundation is destroyed what can the righteous do

you have given one scripture and you don't understand it
but keep fooling yourself

johnw47:

wouldn't one who perverts scripture to preache sex in heaven and reincarnation
also be a agent of satan?

shadeyinka:

When one looks too much into the logos any scripture can be made to say something else. Moreover, some children of God are borrowed unknowingly by the devil

John's problem is that he cannot accept that Jesus is black, it rankles him . But that is the TRUTH, the Bible speaks plainly that Jesus is DARK-SKINNED Negro!

The Bible CLEARLY speaks to us that reincarnation is truth, it also tells us that there will be sex in heaven, we will reproduce and multiply in heaven; heaven is God's dwelling, and it is the place of rulership.

You will all come to understanding, it is turn by turn; Christ the firstfruits.


1Corinthians 15:20
But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

1 Thessalonians 4:15
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

Colossians 1:18
And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

MrPresident1:




John's problem is that he cannot accept that Jesus is black, it rankles him . But that is the TRUTH, the Bible speaks plainly that Jesus is DARK-SKINNED Negro!

The Bible CLEARLY speaks to us that reincarnation is truth, it also tells us that there will be sex in heaven, we will reproduce and multiply in heaven; heaven is God's dwelling, and it is the place of rulership.

You will all come to understanding, it is turn by turn; Christ the firstfruits.


1Corinthians 15:20
But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

1 Thessalonians 4:15
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

Colossians 1:18
And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

1. Jesus was neither black nor white. Jesus was Semitic and hence he should look more Arab than Caucasian. Other than this, the important thing was that Jesus was both a descendant of Abraham as David and He paid the price of our sin.

2. The three scriptures you quoted does not seem to speak in any plain language on what the scriptures say about sex in heaven. I insist, let's focus more on the plain Word of God and not bring out doctrines out of Deductions.

The Bible did not say there would be sex in heaven neither did it categorically say there wouldn't. What we know with certainty that there is no marriage as it is in heaven.

BTW, Would we be riding on horses or riding cars in heaven?
Would we be reading from Scrolls or from iPad in heaven?

Some things are best left to the imaginations

3. Finally, from the scriptures it looks like we shall be dwelling on the earth for there is a new heaven and a new earth. If we'll be in heaven, there would be no need for Resurrection of the body. But because of our glorified bodies, Nothing says we would not be able to Criss cross heaven and earth. But, I am making no doctrine of of this.