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Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 4:44am On Dec 24, 2016
Different religion yet we share similar beliefs. Just wanted to say that even though we're different, it's not hard to respect each other beliefs. Nobody is forcing their beliefs on you so why the disrespect? Each group has some bad groups but yet idk why the hell we want to generalize the whole religion when something happens. Anyways my point is don't believe what the media tells you, it only shows what it wants to show you.
We're all humans.
Being respectful isn't hard.
Re: Islam-Christians by Omudia11: 5:42am On Dec 24, 2016
Pls pass that information to your Muslim brethren up north who murder Christians.
Re: Islam-Christians by Nobody: 5:50am On Dec 24, 2016
Lol Alhamdulillah 'ala ni'mat al-Islam.. Alhamdulillah.. Alhamdulillah..
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 5:55am On Dec 24, 2016
Omudia11:
Pls pass that information to your Muslim brethren up north who murder Christians.

Those people who are killing other people for no damn reasons aren't real Muslims. Islam forbiddens a person to kill someone else. KKKs are Christians but how many people did they kill? Are we going to ignore that? Read what I wrote again. In every religion, there's always the that one group who gives the whole religion a bad reputation. Again.. don't generalize.

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Re: Islam-Christians by Omudia11: 6:08am On Dec 24, 2016
Mohammed is the role model for all Muslims and he killed countless people and ordered his followers to do same. So how then do you say those killers aren't real Muslims?,wasn't mohammed a true Muslim?

Also KKK never committed acts in the name of christianity and every christian group have denounced them. However millions of Muslims openly declare their support for Isis, boko Haram, all queda etc who even quote the Quran while perpetrating heinous acts.

HayatH:


Those people who are killing other people for no damn reasons aren't real Muslims. Islam forbiddens a person to kill someone else. KKKs are Christians but how many people did they kill? Are we going to ignore that? Read what I wrote again. In every religion, there's always the that one group who gives the whole religion a bad reputation. Again.. don't generalize.
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 6:43am On Dec 24, 2016
Omudia11:
Mohammed is the role model for all Muslims and he killed countless people and ordered his followers to do same. So how then do you say those killers aren't real Muslims?,wasn't mohammed a true Muslim?

Also KKK never committed acts in the name of christianity and every christian group have denouncede them. However millions of Muslims openly declare their support for Isis, boko Haram, all queda etc who even quote the Quran while perpetrating heinous acts.


So what you're trying to tell me is that just because there's people supporting these Terrorist groups, that the whole religion is violent? I don't know where you're getting your false information but the only time Mohammad SAW fought was during battles with infidels. Show me proof that Mohammed SAW killed innocent people. Terrorist have no religion. Islam is perfect, muslims aren't.
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 6:47am On Dec 24, 2016
Omudia11:
Mohammed is the role model for all Muslims and he killed countless people and ordered his followers to do same. So how then do you say those killers aren't real Muslims?,wasn't mohammed a true Muslim?

Also KKK never committed acts in the name of christianity and every christian group have denounced them. However millions of Muslims openly declare their support for Isis, boko Haram, all queda etc who even quote the Quran while perpetrating heinous acts.



not all Muslims can be blamed for the violent extremism of ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Shaabab, Taliban etc

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Re: Islam-Christians by adegoks1234(m): 7:29am On Dec 24, 2016
HayatH:
Different religion yet we share similar beliefs. Just wanted to say that even though we're different, it's not hard to respect each other beliefs. Nobody is forcing their beliefs on you so why the disrespect? Each group has some bad groups but yet idk why the hell we want to generalize the whole religion when something happens. Anyways my point is don't believe what the media tells you, it only shows what it wants to show you.
We're all humans.
Being respectful isn't hard.
Actually, this is not what the media is telling us. It is what we are seeing on a daily basis. I don't think Muslims are bad people or more appropriately, to tag all Muslims as terrorists would be a gross error of judgement.
Nevertheless, truth is, most of all the terrorists attacks that I have watched or read about are conducted by Muslims or as you people will call them 'Muslim extremist'. So you see, this isn't helping matters either.

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Re: Islam-Christians by Omudia11: 7:36am On Dec 24, 2016
True! But you should see the stats, an overwhelming percentage of Muslims are sympathetic to their cause and see nothing wrong about Isis and all queda.
HayatH:


not all Muslims can be blamed for the violent extremism of ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Shaabab, Taliban etc
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 7:37am On Dec 24, 2016
adegoks1234:
Actually, this is not what the media is telling us. It is what we are seeing on a daily basis. I don't think Muslims are bad people or more appropriately, to tag all Muslims as terrorists would be a gross error of judgement.
Nevertheless, truth is, most of all the terrorists attacks that I have watched or read about are conducted by Muslims or as you people will call them 'Muslim extremist'. So you see, this isn't helping matters either.

I understand where you're coming from. i never said that we were perfect, we're certainly not. What I meant about the media is that sometimes it gives us a bad rep just because of these extremists. You can't generalize a whole religion based on these group.
Re: Islam-Christians by Omudia11: 7:46am On Dec 24, 2016
Wrong! There are numerous passages. Mohammed spread Islam by "jihad". It is a known fact. In fact one time, he and his cousins beheaded over 700 non Muslims for simply being " infidels". Remember he also killed a bride's entire family including her husband and raped the bride just few hours after that. I know a lot about Islam and I do not rely on the media for information. Mind you, even the media is largely in support of Islam because they hide a lot of things about it.


@ the bolded, no! That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying that Islam is a violent not because some Muslims who support terrorism but because of Mohammed the founder who killed, maimed in the name of Islam and specifically commanded his followers (muslims), to do so.

Do you know of the hadith that says judgment day will not come until Muslims fight and kill Jews to the last one of them?
HayatH:


So what you're trying to tell me is that just because there's people supporting these Terrorist groups, that the whole religion is violent? I don't know where you're getting your false information but the only time Mohammad SAW fought was during battles with infidels. Show me proof that Mohammed SAW killed innocent people. Terrorist have no religion. Islam is perfect, muslims aren't.
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 7:51am On Dec 24, 2016
Omudia11:
Wrong! There are numerous passages. Mohammed spread Islam by "jihad". It is a known fact. In fact one time, he and his cousins beheaded over 700 non Muslims for simply being " infidels". Remember he also killed a bride's entire family including her husband and raped the bride just few hours after that. I know a lot about Islam and I do not rely on the media for information. Mind you, even the media is largely in support of Islam because they hide a lot of things about it.


@ the bolded, no! That's not what I'm saying, said nI'm saying that Islam is a violent not because some Muslims who support terrorism but because of Mohammed the founder who killed, maimed in the name of Islam and specifically commanded his followers (muslims), to do so.

Do you know of hadith that says judgment day will not come until Muslims fight and Jews to the last one of them?


LOOOOOOOL

You made my nigh, thank you.

Mohammed raped A bride See people like you need to actually research this kind of stuff before you embarrass yourself. Give me facts not these lies that you've been told. Seems like you haven't researched enough. Don't believe everything google tells you. I can't even argue with you. This is hilarious honestly.
Re: Islam-Christians by AlfaAce(m): 7:54am On Dec 24, 2016
HayatH:


So what you're trying to tell me is that just because there's people supporting these Terrorist groups, that the whole religion is violent? I don't know where you're getting your false information but the only time Mohammad SAW fought was during battles with infidels. Show me proof that Mohammed SAW killed innocent people. Terrorist have no religion. Islam is perfect, muslims aren't.
Islam is perfect? You are a joke.
Re: Islam-Christians by Wilgrea7(m): 7:56am On Dec 24, 2016
the people who support islam are either people who

* are bribed to do so
* are happy with the true nature of islam
* are ignorant of the truth about their religion

i find the OP quite interesting.. I'm really not here to point fingers... its better to live and lets live.. but if the OP can do a little research on Islam, her view will change
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 8:01am On Dec 24, 2016
AlfaAce:

Islam is perfect? You are a joke.


I'm not going to write paragraphs for you to understand because people like you never listen so I'll break it down for you.

Islam is perfect. All these violent shit you see that are caused by muslims doesn't mean that the religion is violent. We as muslims have flaws. These extremists don't represent us.
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 8:07am On Dec 24, 2016
Wilgrea7:
the people who support islam are either people who

* are bribed to do so
* are happy with the true nature of islam
* are ignorant of the truth about their religion

i find the OP quite interesting.. I'm really not here to point fingers... its better to live and lets live.. but if the OP can do a little research on Islam, her view will change


I've done my research and I know damn well Islam isn't a violent religion. It's people like you who need to do some research about Islam since you guys like to point fingers. You love to argue but bring up some false facts you got from the internet instead of using real facts. I made this post to tell people that in any religion, there's always going to be that one group who will give us a bad rep but it's not right to put us all under one category. Was I attacking anyone? No. My point was to be respectful to people. Respect that's all. And I have people coming at me LOL. grin
Re: Islam-Christians by Omudia11: 8:09am On Dec 24, 2016
Read and enlighten yourself muslimah.
(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 522, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367).

I know you gonna say its not authentic.

HayatH:



LOOOOOOOL

You made my nigh, thank you.

Mohammed raped A bride See people like you need to actually research this kind of stuff before you embarrass yourself. Give me facts not these lies that you've been told. Seems like you haven't researched enough. Don't believe everything google tells you. I can't even argue with you. This is hilarious honestly.
Re: Islam-Christians by Omudia11: 8:14am On Dec 24, 2016
Buhahahah grin grin grin joke of of he millenium.
AlfaAce:

Islam is perfect? You are a joke.
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 8:16am On Dec 24, 2016
Omudia11:
Read and enlighten yourself muslimah.
(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 522, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367).

I know you gonna say its not authentic.


There's not any Hadith that says Mohammed raped Aisha. False quotes everywhere. Are you a Christian?
Re: Islam-Christians by Omudia11: 8:16am On Dec 24, 2016
But Mohammed represents you right?

Mention one thing isis, boko haram , al queda, al shabab, al nusra etc are doing that Mohammed didn't do.
HayatH:



I'm not going to write paragraphs for you to understand because people like you never listen so I'll break it down for you.

Islam is perfect. All these violent shit you see that are caused by muslims doesn't mean that the religion is violent. We as muslims have flaws. These extremists don't represent us.
Re: Islam-Christians by adegoks1234(m): 8:16am On Dec 24, 2016
HayatH:


I understand where you're coming from. i never said that we were perfect, we're certainly not. What I meant about the media is that sometimes it gives us a bad rep just because of these extremists. You can't generalize a whole religion based on these group.
Well, the Western media can be said to be extreme in its portrayal of Muslims. Come to think of it, how come these so called extremists always come up with Quranic verses and ideologies to back up their acts? More so, why is that Muslims especially those in the north, tend to be violent and even murderous when they feel their religious spaces are been tampered on.
Re: Islam-Christians by Wilgrea7(m): 8:19am On Dec 24, 2016
HayatH:



I've done my research and I know damn well Islam isn't a violent religion. It's people like you who need to do some research about Islam since you guys like to point fingers. You love to argue but bring up some false facts you got from the internet instead of using real facts. I made this post to tell people that in any religion, there's always going to be that one group who will give us a bad rep but it's not right to put us all under one category. Was I attacking anyone? No. My point was to be respectful to people. Respect that's all. And I have people coming at me LOL. grin

i said live and lets live... muslims are also victims of terrorist attacks too.. each terrorist group have their aims and causes... that's just my point ... its ok to respect people ... but they lose the respect when they don't reciprocate it
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 8:21am On Dec 24, 2016
Omudia11:
Read and enlighten yourself muslimah.
(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 522, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367).

I know you gonna say its not authentic.


It was common at the time for a girl to be considered of age when she hit puberty. This applied to all of the girls back then and even now. He married her a few years later, around 17/18. I I find it funny that the people who use this type of argument only really seem to care about it when they want to criticize Islam and the Prophet Muhammad. This was a harsh reality for women in the past and to this day it's still a big problem.
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 8:24am On Dec 24, 2016
Omudia11:
But Mohammed represents you right?

Mention one thing isis, boko haram , al queda, al shabab, al nusra etc are doing that Mohammed didn't do.

You mean the killing? The only time Mohammed was violent was when he was fighting with the infidels. The battles Just because they're yelling allahs name doesn't mean anything. It's funny how u guys say he was such a violent person wen you honestly don't know anything about him.
Re: Islam-Christians by Omudia11: 8:24am On Dec 24, 2016
Who talked about Aisha?...I'm talking Safiyyah. That shows you didn't even bother to read it.

Back to the Aisha issue. How can a grown man have consensual sex with a toddler...are you kidding me? Geez!! It is rape... Rape!!
HayatH:


There's not any Hadith that says Mohammed raped Aisha. False quotes everywhere. Are you a Christian?
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 8:26am On Dec 24, 2016
Omudia11:
Who talked about Aisha?...I'm talking Safiyyah. That shows you didn't even bother to read it.

Back to the Aisha issue. How can a grown man have consensual sex with a toddler...are you kidding me? Geez!! It is rape... Rape!!

I glanced at it and in a second I knew that it was false and I was bringing up Aisha because that's the next thing you guys like to argue about it
Re: Islam-Christians by Omudia11: 8:27am On Dec 24, 2016
You didn't answer my question... I asked what has Isis and al queda done that Mohammed didn't do?

Oh... And I know everything about Mohammed. You don't understand, it is not about yelling Allah's name. If Mohammed - Allah's prophet didn't commano them to do that they wouldn't do it. Nonone would've blamed it on Islam if Mohammed didn't do that and likewise commanded Muslims to do same.

It seems you aren't conversant with the Quran.
HayatH:


You mean the killing? The only time Mohammed was violent was when he was fighting with the infidels. The battles Just because they're yelling allahs name doesn't mean anything. It's funny how u guys say he was such a violent person wen you honestly don't know anything about him.
Re: Islam-Christians by alBHAGDADI: 8:27am On Dec 24, 2016
HayatH:



I'm not going to write paragraphs for you to understand because people like you never listen so I'll break it down for you.

Islam is perfect. All these violent shit you see that are caused by muslims doesn't mean that the religion is violent. We as muslims have flaws. These extremists don't represent us.
You are a baby Al taquiya apostle.

Islam is violent and Mohammad was violent. ISIS Boko Haram Al Qaeda etc are doing exactly what he did which makes them the true Muslims, not idiots and wannabees like you. They have followed the advice of the Quran which says that Mohammad is the best example for all Muslims to follow. That is why they have to be violent like him.

S 33:21

"There is a good example in God’s apostle for those of you who look to God and the Last Day and remember God always".

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Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 8:28am On Dec 24, 2016
Omudia11:
You didn't answer my question... I asked what has Isis and al queda done that Mohammed didn't do?

Oh... And I know everything about Mohammed.

They have killed innocent people. Mohammed did no such thing. You know everything that you've got from these false websites
Re: Islam-Christians by Omudia11: 8:30am On Dec 24, 2016
Pls no insults sir!
alBHAGDADI:
You are a baby Al taquiya apostle.

Islam is violent and Mohammad was violent. ISIS Boko Haram Al Qaeda etc are doing exactly what he did which makes them the true Muslims, not idiots and wannabees like you. They have followed the advice of the Quran which says that Mohammad is the best example for all Muslims to follow. That is why they have to be violent like him.

S 33:21

"There is a good example in God’s apostle for those of you who look to God and the Last Day and remember God always".
Re: Islam-Christians by alBHAGDADI: 8:31am On Dec 24, 2016
HayatH:


I glanced at it and in a second I knew that it was false and I was bringing up Aisha because that's the next thing you guys like to argue about it
Stop lying, Mr Al taquiya.

The hadith didn't say anything about Aisha. It is about Safiyya whom Mohammad raped on the same day he killed her husband, family and her entire Jewish tribe.

Stop acting like people no longer have access to the terrorist manual called hadith and Quran.
Re: Islam-Christians by alBHAGDADI: 8:32am On Dec 24, 2016
HayatH:


They have killed innocent people. Mohammed did no such thing. You know everything that you've got from these false websites
The Jewish Quraiza tribe that he slaughtered up to 700 of them, what was their offence?

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