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Re: Islam-Christians by Omudia11: 8:34am On Dec 24, 2016
Mohammed killed innocent people frequently and spread Islam through jihad and forceful conversions. If people didn't convert, he beheaded them. Pls no lies.

On the contrary, I don't read anything about Islam from "false websites".

HayatH:


They have killed innocent people. Mohammed did no such thing. You know everything that you've got from these false websites
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 8:34am On Dec 24, 2016
alBHAGDADI:
The Jewish Quraiza tribe that he slaughtered up to 700 of them, what was their offence?

Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies: “I instruct you in ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm; do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any town . . . ” (Malik’s Muwatta’, “Kitab al-Jihad.”)

Of course someone like would believe that. It's 1:33 AM and I'm not going to lose my sleep arguing with ignorant people.
(USA)
Re: Islam-Christians by Omudia11: 8:36am On Dec 24, 2016
Al taquiya spotted. Are you a mind reader? I wasn't going to bring up Aisha. That was even the least of his crimes. It is from an authentic hadith or do you now disprove some of Islam's most credible scholars?
HayatH:


I glanced at it and in a second I knew that it was false and I was bringing up Aisha because that's the next thing you guys like to argue about it
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 8:36am On Dec 24, 2016
Omudia11:
Mohammed killed innocent people frequently and spread Islam through jihad and forceful conversions. If people didn't convert, he beheaded them. Pls no lies.

On the contrary, I don't read anything about Islam from "false websites".


"There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing."

2:256
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 8:38am On Dec 24, 2016
Omudia11:
Al taquiya spotted. Are you a mind reader? I wasn't going to bring up Aisha. That was even the least of his crimes. It is from an authentic hadith or do you now disprove some of Islam's most credible scholars?

Authentic? People like you never post authentic Hadith. You either make stuff up or switch up the whole meaning.

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Re: Islam-Christians by alBHAGDADI: 8:42am On Dec 24, 2016
HayatH:


Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies: “I instruct you in ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm; do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any town . . . ” (Malik’s Muwatta’, “Kitab al-Jihad.”)

Of course someone like would believe that. It's 1:33 AM and I'm not going to lose my sleep arguing with ignorant people.
(USA)
How does the trashy verse you quoted absolve Mohammad from the killings of over 700 Jews as recorded in the hadith?

You can't dispute it.
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 8:42am On Dec 24, 2016
alBHAGDADI:
Stop lying, Mr Al taquiya.

The hadith didn't say anything about Aisha. It is about Safiyya whom Mohammad raped on the same day he killed her husband, family and her entire Jewish tribe.

Stop acting like people no longer have access to the terrorist manual called hadith and Quran.

http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/did-muhammad-p-rape-safiyah-ra.html?m=1

Read this and you'll know the truth
Re: Islam-Christians by Omudia11: 8:43am On Dec 24, 2016
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

tongue tongue tongue


HayatH:


"There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing."

2:256

Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 8:43am On Dec 24, 2016
alBHAGDADI:
How does the trashy verse you quoted absolve Mohammad from the killings of over 700 Jews as recorded in the hadith?

You can't dispute it.

So so the quotes I bring up are trashy now lol. And the ones that u guys quote are true right?
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 8:44am On Dec 24, 2016
Omudia11:
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

tongue tongue tongue



You do realize that some of these Quran translations that you copy and paste are edited? Or completely made up. Try again
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 8:46am On Dec 24, 2016
Omudia11:
Al taquiya spotted. Are you a mind reader? I wasn't going to bring up Aisha. That was even the least of his crimes. It is from an authentic hadith or do you now disprove some of Islam's most credible scholars?

While your browsing for some false quotes and Hadith, let me just put this here so you can know the truth about saffiyah and their relationship.

http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/did-muhammad-p-rape-safiyah-ra.html?m=1
Re: Islam-Christians by alBHAGDADI: 8:47am On Dec 24, 2016
HayatH:


"There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing."

2:256

There shall be no compulsion in religion, or what did you say? This clearly shows that the Quran is either a liar or contradicts itself always. Look below.



Sahih Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, KILL him.' "


if there was really no compulsion in Islamic religion, why would Mohammad make such statement? It seems you know nothing of Islam.

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Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 8:47am On Dec 24, 2016
Anybody who wants to argue about saffiyah...

http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/did-muhammad-p-rape-safiyah-ra.html?m=1

And please stop using Quran translations that are completely wrong or made up. Wrong evidence.
Goodnight
Re: Islam-Christians by Omudia11: 8:47am On Dec 24, 2016
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Al taquiya as usual.

HayatH:


Authentic? People like you never post authentic Hadith. You either make stuff up or switch up the whole meaning.
Re: Islam-Christians by Omudia11: 8:49am On Dec 24, 2016
Y'all are used to taquiya so I can't take your words seriously. I'd rather go with the Quran itself or any other authentic ahadith.
HayatH:


While your browsing for some false quotes and Hadith, let me just put this here so you can know the truth about saffiyah and their relationship.

http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/did-muhammad-p-rape-safiyah-ra.html?m=1
Re: Islam-Christians by alBHAGDADI: 8:50am On Dec 24, 2016
HayatH:


So so the quotes I bring up are trashy now lol. And the ones that u guys quote are true right?
Yes, cos your quotes didn't debunk the hadith we quoted .

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Re: Islam-Christians by 4kings: 8:52am On Dec 24, 2016
HayatH:


So what you're trying to tell me is that just because there's people supporting these Terrorist groups, that the whole religion is violent? I don't know where you're getting your false information but the only time Mohammad SAW fought was during battles with infidels. Show me proof that Mohammed SAW killed innocent people. Terrorist have no religion. Islam is perfect, muslims aren't.
Check for the meaning of infidels.
Then tell me why you think it's not right for a Muslim to attack non-Muslims as per your post.

I'm not saying all Muslims are violent, but the Quran does not support this. wink

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Re: Islam-Christians by Omudia11: 8:54am On Dec 24, 2016
Hahahaha....tell that to a novice. Sis, I've read the Quran. You can't deceive me. How can a Quranic verse be edited?, not even a hadith. What kind of taquiya is that? It would've been better if you said I took it out of context.

HayatH:


You do realize that some of these Quran translations that you copy and paste are edited? Or completely made up. Try again
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 8:55am On Dec 24, 2016
alBHAGDADI:
There shall be no compulsion in religion, or what did you say? This clearly shows that the Quran is either a liar or contradicts itself always. Look below.



Sahih Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, KILL him.' "

I

if there was really no compulsion in Islamic religion, why would Mohammad make such statement? It seems you know nothing of Islam.

Lol you are taking verses out of context. Please, if you really think these are general injunctions, just check the context.
3:56 is talking about the the people who plotted against Jesus (specifically) to destroy him. See Surat 'Ali `Imran [3:53-59]. Even if you accept that this is a general principle (which seems at odds with the context), this is not Allah telling the Muslims to do so, He is simply saying that that is what he will do.

8:12 is talking about the battle of Badr when there was a war between the Muslims who had moved to Madinah, and the Quraysh who had tortured them, beaten them, ostracized them and killed a number of them Surat Al-'Anfal [8:9-15]. Allah is actually not even giving instructions to people at this point. If you read the verse it's giving instructions to angels.
:

"Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. Allah only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion - [forbids] that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers."
60:8-9-
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 8:56am On Dec 24, 2016
Omudia11:
Hahahaha....tell that to a novice. Sis, I've read the Quran. You can't deceive me. How can a Quranic verse be edited?, not even a hadith. What kind of taquiya is that? It would've been better if you said I took it out of context.


Hard to believe that you read the Quran. I actually don't believe that because if you did, you would have truly understand what Islam is.
Re: Islam-Christians by HayatH(f): 8:57am On Dec 24, 2016
Omudia11:
Y'all are used to taquiya so I can't take your words seriously. I'd rather go with the Quran itself or any other authentic ahadith.

That's what I thought
Re: Islam-Christians by Omudia11: 9:04am On Dec 24, 2016
Maybe you're the one who doesn't understand. I do read the Qur'an, believe it or not.
HayatH:


Hard to believe that you read the Quran. I actually don't believe that because if you did, you would have truly understand what Islam is.
Re: Islam-Christians by AlfaAce(m): 11:01am On Dec 24, 2016
HayatH:



I'm not going to write paragraphs for you to understand because people like you never listen so I'll break it down for you.

Islam is perfect. All these violent shit you see that are caused by muslims doesn't mean that the religion is violent. We as muslims have flaws. These extremists don't represent us.

“Fight against those who do not obey
Allah and do not believe in Allah or the
Last Day and do not forbid what has been
forbidden by Allah and His messenger
even if they are of the People of the Book
until they pay the Jizya with willing
submission and feel themselves subdued.”
9:29
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Indeed it isn't violent. Smh

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