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Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by OYBMEND: 1:36am On Nov 21, 2009 |
May be Mr Sanusi will like to tell us if the Abba Abacha mentioned below is a son of one of his so called colonial masters. NIGERIANS LOVE PLATITUDES. Nigeria ex-leader Sani Abacha's son 'must pay $350m' |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by adigun101: 1:56am On Nov 21, 2009 |
This guy has truly hit the nail on the head. He could not have put it any better. But when he talks about his job he talks about "shooting MDs", "God not forgiving him" , "Nigerias economy outgrowing south africas". He then sounds like a lightweight and people laugh at him. And on the international level they see him as not being learned enough. "like some English who attended his road show in london claimed". What is his economic model for Nigeria. What is his direction for Nigerias financial sector. These are genuine questions for a CBN governor and not Nigeria's history. I had lost most of the respect I had for Soludo when he ventured into politics having left the CBN. But now we have CBN governor who is more interested in politics even while he is in office. Nigeria never ceases to amaze. |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by paddylo1(m): 2:31am On Nov 21, 2009 |
Open your eyes to what is written. Nobody is talking about tribe, outside of what Sanusi himself mentioned. Nigeria needs more integration because u need a fist,not tiny fingers to survive the global economy now i mentioned chicks and cliques cause thats how i grew up in nigeria,i dont know about u young ppl dont care about ojukwu or obasanjo or buhari,they care about naija sanusi is pointing out that everyones mouth is at the trough and feeding fat of the land,so he whose tribe has no sin should cast the first stone every country in the world has had major upheavals,nigerians should get corruption at all levels wiped out that should be the first priority,not tribe finger pointing But when he talks about his job he talks about "shooting MDs", "God not forgiving him" , "Nigerias economy outgrowing south africas". yes Nigerias economy will be bigger than south africas in about 5yrs time,maybe less,they say the prophet is not recognized at home many Nigerians dont know how big their country and economy is to begin with some even dare compare Ghana and Nigeria a $16bln ghana economy to a $230bln Nigerian economy but when sanusi compares Nigerias $230bln Economy to south africas $280bln economy ppl start screaming like he has blasphemed,meanwhile south africa grows at 2%,while Nigeria grows at 6% |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by adigun101: 3:43am On Nov 21, 2009 |
paddy_lo:People dint scream, they laughed ! And once again I will laugh at your comments. Nigeria grew at 6% where ? The manufacturing sector is vanishing. Unemployment is increasing. Inflation is higher than SA. Foreign Direct Investment is lower than SA. Business confidence is low. Practically every other economic index is droping fast but Alas Nigerias economy is growing at 6%. Well the CBN governor was supposed to tell you that Nigeria has no real growth but the GDP rise was as a result of rise in oil prices, something that applies to all sub Saharan countries. But he just could't be bothered to go into such detail unless it is politics. He happened to be speaking to an educated crowd and they laughed at him ! |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by Nobody: 8:49am On Nov 21, 2009 |
It saddens me that after slavery and colonization we can't redefine ourselves properly. Our goals should be how to move Africa and every Africans all over the world forward by now but we are stuck in tribal differences and political differences. . We can't even move a street forward talk less of a city, a borough, a city, a state, a coast a country, a geographical part of continent, the continent. We are stuck. We are still stuck in the dark ages of religion. Let the past 2,850 years be called the dark age for Africa!! Hope we rise again and never fall!!!! |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by devilmaycy: 8:55am On Nov 21, 2009 |
People dint scream, they laughed ! And once again I will laugh at your comments. Nigeria grew at 6% where ? dont mind this guy, he has been saying the same thing. The problem is that people just find information onlline and then post it confidently without considering what methodology was used and such or some grasp of economics. Because Nigeria's GDP is growing due to oil prices, how does this relate to industrialization and real economic growth? |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by paddylo1(m): 10:27am On Nov 21, 2009 |
People dint scream, they laughed ! And once again I will laugh at your comments. Nigeria grew at 6% where ? ignorance is bliss for u i guess,i will not be going into GDP analysis with u guys on Nairaland again because i have done it b4,if u refuse to learn well your loss how does oil price rise apply to all subsaharan african countries? do they now produce oil too? for your info.SA economy registered little or no growth this year u think pple over there are from mars?i pity u.,what is GDP growth?how does increase in output occur?why is SA economy stagnant? dont mind this guy, he has been saying the same thing. The problem is that people just find information onlline and then post it confidently without considering what methodology was used and such or some grasp of economics. Because Nigeria's GDP is growing due to oil prices, how does this relate to industrialization and real economic growth? What do u mean by industrialization and real economic growth,show me the fake one,pls go take a class in Econometrics and macro economics and come back and lets talk my friend u know nothing about economics or finance so dont even start its only in Nigeria that people will get up and insist on their own facts and figures,meanwhile the world bank,goldman sachs,imf,cia,hell even the south africans will tell u nigeria will eclipse them very soon,but u will say everyone is lying. |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by devilmaycy: 10:30am On Nov 21, 2009 |
its only in Nigeria that people will get up and insist on their own facts and figures,meanwhile the world bank,goldman sachs,imf,cia,hell even the south africans will tell u nigeria will eclipse them very soon,but u will say everyone is lying. |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by paddylo1(m): 10:31am On Nov 21, 2009 |
since most of u guys are simpletons with no brain,below is a link with world bank data,analyse it and plot all other african and world economies and see where Nigeria is headed http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb-wdi&met=ny_gdp_mktp_cd&idim=country:NGA&q=nigeria+gdp#met=ny_gdp_mktp_cd&idim=country:GHA:NGA:ZAF |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by paddylo1(m): 11:00am On Nov 21, 2009 |
from the link above u can see what military rule did to nigeria,our GDP first peaked very close to south africa in 1980 around $64bln it took more than 23yrs to get back to that level again and get over it,that was a disaster!!,and the military with their clueless and kleptomaniac policies were the main culprits we should never 4get that no matter how bad civilian rule is,military rule is much worse,thats why ibb and abacha squandered excess oil wealth,while obasanjo built a considerable foreign exchange reserve our GDP should naturally be twice that of south africans,cause of our population and mineral wealth, we will get there though cause if we have another 10yr period of world economic growth like we had in 2000 - 2009 before the crash hit,then by 2020 ours will be the largest economy in africa by far |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by devilmaycy: 11:22am On Nov 21, 2009 |
U are beginning to vex me I am not arguing about the GDP- i am arguing about how that GDP is applied. Even if nigeria makes 360 billion dollars as you say, and it goes into the pockets of corrupt politicians, how does it develop nigeria? If Ghana makes a 1/10th of what we make, as you claim, and they spend it efficiently, which country is better? |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by transformR: 12:08pm On Nov 21, 2009 |
devilmaycy: No need to get vex you are trying to say Nigeria has a bad distribution of wealth - thats absolutely true, but Ghanas use of its income is worse, the country is nearly bankrupt: http://news.peacefmonline.com/features/200911/31413.php |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by chosen04(f): 12:24pm On Nov 21, 2009 |
[quote][/quote] Before Sanusi starts his 'dont blame my people alone talk', He should admit it that his People had destroyed this country more than any other people. Worst is that their total contribution is nothing near the total damage his people have done to the country. Its worst when those who cant contribute to national development go on extensive destruction agenda. |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by paddylo1(m): 1:29pm On Nov 21, 2009 |
U are beginning to vex me nigga move to ghana if u are annoyed and love it so much,which country doesnt have income inequality? south african income disparity is even worse than nigeria,i hope u know that as a matter of fact republicans in America will tell u that without income inequality,there is no economic growth as everyone is stagnant (like in the former soviet union),with no incentive to work and get ahead,now that is their economic philosophy not mine and the us has the largest income disparity in the world,top 2% owns 90% of the wealth and for your info you dont know anything about GDP,it is not applied by anybody,it is just the output in a yr in an economy measured in dollars of course the GOvt SPENDING part of the Nigerian GDP could be spent more productively,but the private sector is also huge and stop saying i claim or i say,my figures are from the world bank,u can deny them if u wish Before Sanusi starts his 'dont blame my people alone talk', He should admit it that his People had destroyed this country more than any other people. Worst is that their total contribution is nothing near the total damage his people have done to the country. Nobody is denying that,look at my chart above and see how military rule by northerners btw 1980 and 2000,nearly destroyed Nigeria and truncated its growth the question now is how to move ahead,stop trying to fight over crumbs from the pie,make the pie bigger |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by paddylo1(m): 1:53pm On Nov 21, 2009 |
the question now is how to move ahead,stop trying to fight over crumbs from the pie,make the pie bigger check the link below(by the way u can plot these yourselves),it shows Ghana,Nigeria,South Africa and Indonesia GDP from 1960 till date http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb-wdi&met=ny_gdp_mktp_cd&idim=country:GHA:NGA:ZAF:IDN&tstart=-315619200000&tunit=Y&tlen=48 if you go back to 1976 the 3(NGA,SA and IND),had roughly the same size economies why do i use indonesia?,because indonesia is the only country in the world that Nigeria most closely resembles,almost same population,they have oil,and agriculture,they have huge islamic population,they had been battered by the military until about 15yrs ago when they went back to democracy after suhartos death now indonesias GDP is 2 times nigeria and south africas,how did they do it,and how do we replicate it here? thats what i mean by grow the pie,not fighting over who stole what when,indonesia also had very corrupt leaders,but they overcame it they have terrorist attacks,seperatists groups and so on, but am sure most indonesians are not trying to tear down their country like most of u on here seem intent on and for those of u arguing about GDP,note that u cannot improve peoples lives without growth in GDP go to that chart and plot in the GDP of somalia congo or iraq,see it has been flatlined for ever the point is the poor people will get the benefits of growth in an economy; as long as its happening the bigger problem is when there is no growth or stagnation u cannot redistribute wealth that doesnt exist,we should focus on growing the pie to match indonesia at least by 2020 |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by adigun101: 2:13pm On Nov 21, 2009 |
paddy_lo:If you were conversant enough you would have known that what I meant was that sub saharan economic growth are mostly based on rise in mineral prices and in Nigeria's case oil. For south Africas growth what did Nigeria record this year in the face of falling oil prices. Certainly not 6% as that was forecast growth before the drop in oil price can you give us a reliable statistic because we all know that of SA. I guess you wont know because the person supposed to tell you that is preoccupied with lecturing you on Nigerias history and politics. |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by bibiking1(m): 3:32pm On Nov 21, 2009 |
An articulate treatise from an intellectual fellow. Sanusi's rebuttal is in order and the earlier we start thinkin as a country the better for us |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by Nobody: 4:16pm On Nov 21, 2009 |
nigeria having the potential to have an economy that is bigger than south africa, should not be confused with the fact that it,s economy is not and will not be bigger than south africa so long as we continue to have the likes of ibb, abacha, abdulsalami and co, confirmed looters. having obasanjo in between dose not change the fact that this looters not only stole nigeria blind, they also reduced their own people into the poorest people found any where on earth, and for sanusi not to realised this and castigate these rulers, since according to some folks, here, he is a fearless man, shows that he is part of the problem, and very petty. putting square pegs in round holes have always been the bane of this great country, here we have an ethnic social crusader mascurading as a cbn governor, and we are talking of an economy getting bigger. 1+1 is not equal to 4! i am amazed at such optimism. |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by Jarus(m): 5:32pm On Nov 21, 2009 |
Hmmmmnnn, at this juncture, let me dig into my SLS archive and dig out this article written by Sanusi over a decade ago. Sanusi just restated his opinion in that book launch. Enjoy: THE “NORTHERN” CROSS IN NIGERIAN POLITICS: Ethnic bigotry and the subversion of democracy |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by Nobody: 6:58pm On Nov 21, 2009 |
"The dilemma for the students’ leadership was this: northern universities had a predominantly northern student body practically all of whom were on state government scholarships and would not be in any way affected by the policy. Southern universities, on the other hand were predominantly populated by students from the South who were paying their own bills and this increase would stretch parents' resources and force some of them out of the universities. The National Union of Nigerian Students (NUNS) led then by Segun Okeowo had the task of carrying ABU Students’ Union on a national protest over an issue that was of little direct consequence to the majority of its members. " The second and final component of the experience happened one year later, during the JAMB crisis. The genesis was the publication on the front page of the New Nigerian Newspaper of a histogram showing the distribution of the students admitted into Nigerian Universities for the first time by JAMB. There were 19 States in the Federation then, 9 of them in the South. Eight of the Southern States took the top eight positions in the ranking followed by Kwara and then Cross River, the final southern state. The States of the north other than Kwara took the last nine positions. Bendel State alone had more students admitted than the ten northern states combined. Northern students were alarmed. The understanding was that part of JAMB’s mandate was to help bridge the educational gap in the country and promote national integration. [b]It was clear that the skewed admission would only widen the gap. [/b]Moreover, northern students were not taken into southern universities who refused to recognise the IJMB, while southern students filled northern universities. We tried to have a national protest. mediocrity at it,s highest, in the form of national integration |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by Nobody: 10:40pm On Nov 21, 2009 |
state scholarship with money that you did not earned, woe betide you sanusi or whatever you call urself, for ever thinking of writing such rubbish, still with such free money you still fail to pass jamb, imagine coming to me to join you in protest that you cannot pass jamb, my people this is the mind of a man that is suppose to steer our economic policy towards a goal of becoming one of the 20 largest economies in the world, i shudder. |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by Beaf: 10:53pm On Nov 21, 2009 |
What alarms me most, is that Sanusi is eager to be seen as an intellectual (which he definitely is not) and he has a band of fanatic followers "sinking" the word into our heads. It won't work. Here is a man in a position of authority, someone at the helm of affairs in Nigeria, yet all he can do is point fingers at the British who left 49 years ago. Intellectual? |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by Jarus(m): 11:07am On Nov 22, 2009 |
df2006:I honestly agree he was off-point in that article. |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by paddylo1(m): 11:14am On Nov 22, 2009 |
What alarms me most, is that Sanusi is eager to be seen as an intellectual (which he definitely is not) and he has a band of fanatic followers "sinking" the word into our heads. It won't work. @ beaf would u rather a dummy be the head of the CBN?, better for one who seeks knowledge to be there than a dull person,we all know what george bush did to america with his ignorant,am no intellectual arse am no sanusi defender(far from it),it just seems like a lot of ppl against him are pulling the tribe card i also think he could have acted with less shock and awe,maybe give the banks forbearance,afterall they mostly had margin tied to stock,which would rebound in at least 3-4yrs |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by paddylo1(m): 11:48am On Nov 22, 2009 |
For south Africas growth what did Nigeria record this year in the face of falling oil prices nigerian growth rate 2009 is revised to 4.7%,not bad with US growth at 1% and eu at almost 0 or negative,and the uk is negative also for 2009 |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by SEFAGO(m): 11:55am On Nov 22, 2009 |
^ ;d |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by transformR: 12:42pm On Nov 22, 2009 |
adigun101: Beaf: If you compare Sanusi's cv with the likes of Soludo or Iweala its embarassing, who asked for his opinion? Hes comments are unprofessional and at best unremarkable, he needs to focus on the job, produce the goods and stop trying to be judge and jury on the history of Nigeria. Think about it, if you had $1 million in a company, would you want the CEO to start yapping on about the history of Nigeria or what he can do for you as a shareholder? Its obvious that the North wanted one of their own champions and Sanusi is trying to live up to expectations with words - but the country needs hes effective actions. He makes it obvious that he is trying to compete in the popularity stakes with Fashola. But he needs to look up to Fashola - a man who lets his actions speak. Fashola did not go to MIT, Harvard or Oxford but he is a world class leader and yet he remains humble and focused. |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by Dede1(m): 2:02pm On Nov 22, 2009 |
Thank you df2006, Beaf and TransfornR for magnifying the character and intellectual flaw exhibited by Mallam Sanusi and rather openly. I am perplexed that many individuals are still holding brief for a person who has written tons of garbage including falsehood about Nigerian constitution as of 1966. |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by okunoba(m): 10:03pm On Nov 22, 2009 |
Sanusi tries to sound like a Nationalist, but he his more of an ethnic champion. He loves pointing fingers at Yoruba`s and Ndigbo 4 being the first ethnic groups to attempt and stage a coup in Nigeria, yet he conveniently left out the first successful ethnic cleansing in Nigeria carried out by the North. His opinion on Nigeria is full of bias. Find below extracts from his writings "The Yoruba elite were the first, in 1962, to attempt a violent overthrow of an elected government in this country""" "It is, therefore, not surprising that the Igbo were the prime movers of the first successful military mutiny which eliminated the political leaders and senior officers of the North and West while letting-off those of the East. It is also not surprising that the transformation of the polity from a Federation to a Unitary State was the handiwork of an Igbo leader, Gen. Ironsi by military decree (Decree No 34 of May, 1966)" |
Re: Sanusi's Very Interesting Perspective - We Are Products Of Colonialism - by keta11(m): 3:26pm On Nov 27, 2009 |
I just wish the clown would consider/ care a little bit about the effects his approach to the re-regulation of the banks (which most agree is necessary) has had on the capital markets - primary and secondary market basically ground to a HALT, domestic and international confidence destroyed, nothing happening in the private sector, only government borrowing going on!!! The guy already lost me N4.5 million in the stock market (from N6.7 million up) since he started his gra gra!!! And can he slow down on his pseudo-intellectualism and idiotic musings on social issues - It actually shows when someone is trying too hard!! He really doesnt look and sound like a central bank governor to me!!!!! |
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