Lexusgs430:
How I fit claim my own share?

Your case sounds like you fighting to queque up for food for the widows, poor or destitutes. Are you among the poorest?

mapet:


Your case sounds like you fighting to queque up for food for the widows, poor or destitutes. Are you among the poorest?

he is not...he can afford data...

emusbyz:
It is a pity that Nigeria is this backward and the masses are so illiterate to see this madness.
How can you in this century be wasting so much amount of money and claim it is to reduce poverty?
Please tell Mr President to go and read Andrew Carnegie's article "The Gospel of Wealth" . If he is too busy to read that, let him atleast ask one of his SA's to. All I see is a bunch of failing presidential cabinet.
#WisCeph

So the my take is that you want the president to read "The Gospel of Wealth" Some of you need to humble yourselves and understand things properly

Kingspin:
It look good you pay them. Am not in Nigeria maybe that's why I laugh at most of their policies. The pressing issues/needs, better laws and good regulations framework that can change the fortune of a country are completely neglected. We keep rolling plans that yield no peaceful result. The country always planning and working like a drowning man which they are really. Who will save Nigeria?. Who are you paying N5000? For how long? How many unemployed youths? What criteria do you use to determine the number of poorest citizens? So they are only eating today and die tomorrow. Nigeria need a total and genuine change.

1. You are asking questions that are laced in total ignorance
2. you are asking question you can research yourself by reading up on the CCT

I laugh when I see people tout better laws and good regulations as a panacea/magic wand. Laughable because you lot just sit your behinds in some countries and think the same template works everywhere

mmsen:
Without a proper census or identification system this is designed to fail.

Deal with the structural flaws before doling out money.

I disagree with your position. You do not need to wait for your "proper census" before this intervention can start. What you call proper census is probably 10yrs away, are you now going to wait that long before you introduce necessary social interventions? Do you wait to have "proper census" before you start intervention programs like immunization, family planning schemes, community development aids etc?

What has been done is to adopt an ingenious approach to data collection, verify the same data collection approach with international standards as verified by world bank and commence intervention with such, while you improve on data collection with time

mapet:

I disagree with your position. You do not need to wait for your "proper census" before this intervention can start. What you call proper census is probably 10yrs away, are you now going to wait that long before you introduce necessary social interventions? Do you wait to have "proper census" before you start intervention programs like immunization, family planning schemes, community development aids etc?

What has been done is to adopt an ingenious approach to data collection, verify the same data collection approach with international standards as verified by world bank and commence intervention with such, while you improve on data collection with time

the stomach doesnt wait ooooo...

seguno2:

Qmerit: :
Campaign promises re being met gradually, more on economy PMB,
God bless you and your good team!
bad ones should be pls deleted by sacking,
Like the "well spended minister" etc

Campaign promise to create dependent almajiri beggars who will have no incentive to work?
Why is it so easy to fool us?

You need to purge yourself of patent hatred and see the bright side of the intervention. So far the "almajiri beggars" access a relatively better lease of life, then we see a government meeting up to their promises. What I see here is either a total lack of understanding of (and ability to process) the programs.

The CCT has conditions which are important. Few of which are

1. Parents will allow their children to be immunized
2. Parent will send their children to school

Is that not a humane thing to do?

darknetcom:


the stomach doesnt wait ooooo...

abi......

Fortissimo502:
5 billion naira per month in handouts? Wow. Why not fix the infrastructure and create a conducive environment for business and wealth creation?

1. ....and who tells you infrastructure is not being fixed?
2. who tells you that concentrating on "infrastructure" along is the quick fix.

....The funny thing is if these useless apc government manages to pay these 5k stipend,its actually 2k now from when the 5k promise was made before last year's elections because of the hyperinflation from last year to now caused by their incompetence.



.....so if they are serious,they should increase the stipend from 5k to 15k or 20k cos what 5k could buy last year when the promise was made is what you need between 15 to 20k to buy as we speak

...But all in all,this apc government should move away from this socialist tendencies they have and put on their thinking caps for once..gosh!

..

Ngokafor:




....The funny thing is if these useless apc government manages to pay these 5k stipend,its actually 2k now from when the 5k promise was made before last year's elections because of the hyperinflation from last year to now caused by their incompetence.



.....so if they are serious,they should increase the stipend from 5k to 15k or 20k cos what 5k could buy last year when the promise was made is what you need between 15 to 20k to buy as we speak

...But all in all,this apc government should move away from this socialist tendencies they have and put on their thinking caps for once..gosh!

..

tahh..even 5k is not enough monthly...

this communism rubbish will not work..

we must create jobs...

but this 5k thing is a start....

use the 5k to start something small for ya self..

not for drinking and parties..

greenpasture:


Nigeria's inflation is rather curious as it is imported. Price increases are uneven - on some staples year on year price increases are quite low. The government seems to be trying to domesticate the economy. The 5000 per person will most likely go towards the purchase of local food items and also to local artisans.

Whether it will work is quite another thing but the idea of lifting the domestic economy from the base while favouring large strategic infrastructural investments at the top is interesting. We haven't seen that before. What we've had since 1960 is basically top heavy trickle down economics in which money has flowed outwards in consumptive spending.

This is, it seems to me not just economic management but also large dosage social engineering.

On tax, government is gradually increasing tax. this morning stamp duty was extended to savings accounts. Corporate tax compliance is also hardening amount large non multinationals.

It's an interesting ride. Believe me, one that is presenting opportunities if you know where to look. I've run as part of my business an incubator and an accelerator in Lagos for the last three years and foreign investment is coming in looking for scale.

Wishing you a prosperous New Year

Thank you sir, you've definitely update my knowledge on this

mapet:

I disagree with your position. You do not need to wait for your "proper census" before this intervention can start. What you call proper census is probably 10yrs away, are you now going to wait that long before you introduce necessary social interventions? Do you wait to have "proper census" before you start intervention programs like immunization, family planning schemes, community development aids etc?

What has been done is to adopt an ingenious approach to data collection, verify the same data collection approach with international standards as verified by world bank and commence intervention with such, while you improve on data collection with time

If you want to help these people who claim to be in need of 5k then provide them with basic education - everything from literacy, to civics, to sexual health education.

This is just a way for the same idiots who have been short changing these people to continue to do so.

And what sense does it make to hand out a depreciating asset in the form of hard currency when this government has done such a woeful job of maintaining the value of the naira?

Again, save this money and use it towards something more constructive than handouts.

mapet:


Thank you sir, you've definitely update my knowledge on this

thanks bro..

by their way of thinking,you shall know them..

progressives dont run around defeated...

they know its hard..and will not solve much...

but this 5k thing is new...lets look how it comes out..

but the goverment should be careful to give it to those that are completly down but have ambitions enough to use the 5k in a useful way...

mapet:


Your case sounds like you fighting to queque up for food for the widows, poor or destitutes. Are you among the poorest?

LOL........
Oga, how you take know my condition?

darknetcom:


tahh..even 5k is not enough monthly...

this communism rubbish will not work..

we must create jobs...

but this 5k thing is a start....

use the 5k to start something small for ya self..

not for drinking and parties..

.....Are you high or drunk??...did i tell you that i support this 5k rubbish or a jobless troll like you??...better respect yourself and clear out of my way.

Ngokafor:





.....Are you high or drunk??...did i tell you that i support this 5k rubbish or a jobless troll like you??...better respect yourself and clear out of my way.

how can you know am jobless..??..

we dont have to be enemies,you know...

efilefun:

Blackteeth: :
The poorest citizens should be the beggars at the motor parks. They are the ones who deserve it.

Dont be surprise some of those dudes are well comfortable "financially" but they prefer begging as a source of income, while they have stores and co managed by either their kids or spouse. There are also some group of mallams who are being paid % of what they earned by the people who shipped them from the north to various locations to beg and earn

Essentially the scheme is not for beggars. The Lagos State government has for example discouraged people from giving beggars money, especially the "perpetual beggars". The Lagos state government estimated that an average street beggar goes home with nothing less than N3,500 a day........

alfred007:
my fellow citizens of this country called Nigeria, good morning.
I believe that most persons on this forum are exposed and have a certain level of education. Also I would want to think that majority of us are YOUTH.

If my assumptions are true then why all these clueless and gullible comments.

1. Nigeria has no data-base: how will they know the poorest persons in the country?

2. I supposed, the money will be paid in the bank: how did they get the account details?

3. This government does everything on media: I bet you this will circulate for a while and die off. remember Saraki case and others, Saraki is still Senate President.

4. Do you not think this is the most foolish idea? What do an average youth spend in a day? how much do you spend in a week?

5. I think as youths this country belongs to us. when do we start holding our leaders accountable. they come up, say one thing or the other and will do nothing about anything.

THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE AFRAID OF ITS CITIZENS, NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND.

THAT'S WHY AFRICA CAN NEVER DEVELOP.


SOMETIME LAST YEAR SOMEONE SAID BY DECEMBER RICE WILL BE SOLD 7500 A BAG BUT TILL TODAY I AM BUYING 25000 A BAG.

NOBODY HAS SAID ANYTHING TILL TODAY.

I WEEP FOR THIS NATION.

I stopped reading your submission as it is laced with total ignorance, yet you put up a front of knowledge. I will advise you stand by the lines and learn

asuustrike2009:

I know from your analysis but that money is damn oo small. How much is a litre of fuel? How much is a bowl of garri? .you know the poor has children to caretaker for .in this part of world the poor give birth to many children, so how would N5,000 in this present situation help?

ok:: and what if he's not there at all and ve them not being surviving?

mapet:


You need to purge yourself of patent hatred and see the bright side of the intervention. So far the "almajiri beggars" access a relatively better lease of life, then we see a government meeting up to their promises. What I see here is either a total lack of understanding of (and ability to process) the programs.

The CCT has conditions which are important. Few of which are

1. Parents will allow their children to be immunized
2. Parent will send their children to school

Is that not a humane thing to do?

Pls did u read my submission b4 mentioning me? I think we re on the same rd

mmsen:


If you want to help these people who claim to be in need of 5k then provide them with basic education - everything from literacy, to civics, to sexual health education.

This is just a way for the same idiots who have been short changing these people to continue to do so.

And what sense does it make to hand out a depreciating asset in the form of hard currency when this government has done such a woeful job of maintaining the value of the naira?

Again, save this money and use it towards something more constructive than handouts.

1. You still don't get it. Nobody claimed to need 5k. The government is giving the 5k as a safety net. In order words, the government is giving cash incentives to alleviate their conditions, while getting them to buy into government interventions in health (immunization) and education (school enrollment). How do you want to teach your suggested "basic education" when in the first place these people are "disincentivised" and "disempowered" to make it to schools or primary health centres. How do you want to give "basic education" when it makes "immediate sense" to some to send their children out to hawk on the streets rather than go to schools. How do you want to give "basic education" when some families has to go out each day to hustle for daily meal?

2. On the value of Naira, you lot are just looking at the wrong paradigm. To these people in question, the Naira/dollar exchange means squat. But if you sat down to understand the interconnection and basic economics, then you will see that the cash to be given to these people cannot be deemed "assets", rather they are stimulants to reflate the economy and get cash to move in the system. Who told you government "hoarding" the cash will automatically translate to improvement in exchange rate? If government cannot not increase the spending power of people at this critical times, how do you want to help commerce?

musicwriter:
Whenever I hear African countries relying on world bank data to perfom a simply task such as identifying most vulnerable Nigerians, it speaks volumes that no education is really going on in schools in third world countries. Otherwise, how could the world bank have such important data about Nigeria while the Nigerian government have none? Aren't there statisticians coming out of our universities?

Scrap this foolery called education!. Its not serving its purpose in Africa!!.

Pls quit the arrogant postures laced with ignorance. Yes on one hand, the World bank keeps data, but many states also keep some form of data. Many people just speak in ignorance. States do keep many forms of data, especially their partnership and work with donor agencies,NGOs and international bodies requires they do so.

Meanwhile did the report say they used World bank data?

DejiDaGreat:
The baselessness of d programme notwithstanding, will d selected "vulnerable" Nigerians b paid their arrears since d it had been budgeted for in 2016? Height of fraud...well, I'm not surprised at all, since we are now in d era of systematic corruption. APC...deceptive govt, continue pls.

You manufacture a needless question hence you provide unnecessary answers....and ignorantly so.
1. The 2016 budget cycle ends in March
2. The budget system currently in place requires that unspent funds gets returned to FG coffers

But what is more important to you? The program or what budget?

SleekyPosh:
I REGRET BEING A NIGERIAN...This is nothing but utter shame and madness..Even the so called educated ones are just a bunch of retards..

If u have a 1st degree or HND from any institution and you still come here to believe this useless and illfated programme will even enhance the welfare of any poor person that zeven if it eventually gets into the hands of the actual less priviledged people and doesnt get stashed up in the account of this Bastard govt officials using ghost records and invisible data ti siphon funds meant for the needy..Then You are also a part of the problem of this country

i weep for this nation...We are bleeped already here..its a pity.

Bros,

Weep for yourself.....especially the fact that you are probably a graduate, yet cannot comprehend beyond a baseline

Boydehot:
Am not yet convince till the money is distributed to all account holders and not selectively. All nigerians are entitle to that money. There is nothing like poorest Nigerians

Where did the FG tell you monies will be "distributed to all account holders" or all Nigerians

mapet:


1. You still don't get it. Nobody claimed to need 5k. The government is giving the 5k as a safety net. In order words, the government is giving cash incentives to alleviate their conditions, while getting them to buy into government interventions in health (immunization) and education (school enrollment). How do you want to teach your suggested "basic education" when in the first place these people are "disincentivised" and "disempowered" to make it to schools or primary health centres. How do you want to give "basic education" when it makes "immediate sense" to some to send their children out to hawk on the streets rather than go to schools. How do you want to give "basic education" when some families has to go out each day to hustle for daily meal?

2. On the value of Naira, you lot are just looking at the wrong paradigm. To these people in question, the Naira/dollar exchange means squat. But if you sat down to understand the interconnection and basic economics, then you will see that the cash to be given to these people cannot be deemed "assets", rather they are stimulants to reflate the economy and get cash to move in the system. Who told you government "hoarding" the cash will automatically translate to improvement in exchange rate? If government cannot not increase the spending power of people at this critical times, how do you want to help commerce?

Where did I even suggest that government should hoard anything?

The money should be used for capital expenditure. This is no better than the policy of creating more government jobs and wasteful, inefficient recurrent expenditure.

Why is the federal government having to involve itself (again) in the basics of primary education, primary healthcare and immunization? What are certain states/local governments doing with the budgets that they receive for nothing?

You speak as someone who has some insight into this project - do you have a list as to the requirements that makes one eligible for this scheme? How did/does the government decide who the 1 million most impoverished/deserving are?

asuustrike2009:

I know from your analysis but that money is damn oo small. How much is a litre of fuel? How much is a bowl of garri? .you know the poor has children to caretaker for .in this part of world the poor give birth to many children, so how would N5,000 in this present situation help?

The money is not a salary neither will it be in perpertuity

mmsen:


Where did I even suggest that government should hoard anything?

The money should be used for capital expenditure. This is no better than the policy of creating more government jobs and wasteful, inefficient recurrent expenditure.

.....and capital expenditure of what exactly? Is capital not currently being addressed or has this government not increased the votes on capital spending more than their predecessors?

mapet:


.....and capital expenditure of what exactly? Is capital not currently being addressed or has this government not increased the votes on capital spending more than their predecessors?

They have? Can you show me evidence of said expenditure? Have you actually looked at the budget?

And why did you duck my question on criteria? How are they identifying the qualifying parties?

Qmerit:


Pls did u read my submission b4 mentioning me? I think we re on the same rd

Sorry Bro that it came out the wrong way. I only wanted to keep you in the loop, I am actually addressing the ignorant fellow

mrpackager:
Buh I thought they initially denied not promising any 5k

There was not time they ever denied it. What they refuted was the confusion that antagonists and opposition put in. Many people did not understand how the intervention worked. I remember a PDP senator, less than 3months into the regime, stood up in the senate and requested that the senate to mandate PMB to pay Nigerian 5k, "promised". That was part of the confusion and done in bad faith