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Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by Wilgrea7(m): 4:17pm On May 15, 2017 |
Oloruntobi4382: otem isn't a “satan" to me... few times, he makes salient points ... he only sounds crazy when he tries to force everything into his tiny worldview... which goes against history... its the same things most Christians try to do... as a fundamentalist, i was once like that.. plus... he isn't too open minded... always keeps running back to that doctrine of his to quote just the same way Christians keep running to pull verses from their bible, rejecting a contradictory point for no reason and repeating something from the bible instead of analysing the point of the other person.. same thing otem does most times.. other than that and a few other things, he's a cool guy |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by OtemAtum: 4:19pm On May 15, 2017 |
Wilgrea7:lol The research websites you are talking about, who put them there abeg? Don't worry, in the future, say 100 years from now, people who say they are doing research will end up on the research websites of people of our time, who merely put their own way of seeing things there and called them research. All the researches I need to do has already been done and I know whom Satan is and he knows whom he is himself. However, Satan(Jehovah) can only affect lives through his deceptive books and not by any other means, that's why I don't even like trying to talk of him as if he has any more external influence on just anybody except his worshippers who meditates on his words. As I usually say, currently and for the next 1000years, he shall remain caged in his dungeon. |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by OtemAtum: 4:26pm On May 15, 2017 |
Oloruntobi4382:lol@ Chinedu. As I say once again, whether anyone resist the TRUTH of the DOCTUFOS or not, they don't still deserve to be named anything. Atum isn't revealing the truth to me for people to accept it, but for them to know the truth. Yahweh himself knows that he is the most qualified for that title for now and I don't think any entity can beat him to that name. BTW, why did you delete your account so sudden that way? |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by Wilgrea7(m): 4:27pm On May 15, 2017 |
OtemAtum: I think I'm running out of nairaland saliva... must i keep repeating the same thing? you call research “peoples way of seeing things" .. do you know the meaning of research?? i always talked of UNBIASED research... research is someone's finding on something... so you're telling me historical websites are people's opinion? even if these things are opinions (quote unlikely for research to be someone's opinion)... as you read more and go deeper, seeing different sides, you are bound to see more of the truth and not someone's opinion... research won't kill bro |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by ilynem(m): 4:33pm On May 15, 2017 |
otemanuduno:I googled "Otem" and this was what I saw.
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Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by OtemAtum: 4:36pm On May 15, 2017 |
Wilgrea7:Gheen ghen, now give me five unbiased research websites lemme see if they are truly unbiased. |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by OtemAtum: 4:40pm On May 15, 2017 |
ilynem:Yes, remember I do emphasize the use of medicine when you are sick rather than going to a church for cure. The producer of that medicine are actually doing good to humanity by that medicine they have manufactured. However, the spiritual meaning of Otem is the breath of Atum, which is truth. I'll post a screenshot of a dictionary where it is found. |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by OtemAtum: 4:54pm On May 15, 2017 |
joseff14:Ase wa |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by Wilgrea7(m): 5:18pm On May 15, 2017 |
OtemAtum: Wilgrea7: |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by OtemAtum: 5:20pm On May 15, 2017 |
Wilgrea7:Give me five research websites. Thanks. |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by Wilgrea7(m): 5:31pm On May 15, 2017 |
OtemAtum: go to www.Google.com type in your search topic open every link on the first page.... read through and compare without any sentimental bias of any kind visit links on the same topic from different sides like theistic.. etc... open a thread if you're confused thank me later i think listverse is a website that pays people as long as their information is credible.. but then... don't expect them to coincidentally open a topic on what you're searching |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by Oloruntobi4382(m): 5:32pm On May 15, 2017 |
Wilgrea7:I understand your point sir. Nice one. |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by Oloruntobi4382(m): 5:35pm On May 15, 2017 |
OtemAtum:Lol, na only Yahweh you see give. About that account, things happened that night. |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by OtemAtum: 6:00pm On May 15, 2017 |
Oloruntobi4382:things like what? Can u share pls |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by OtemAtum: 6:05pm On May 15, 2017 |
@Wilgrea7, research about Satan .: |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by OtemAtum: 6:05pm On May 15, 2017 |
@Wilgrea7, research about Satan .:http://disinfo.com/2016/02/yahweh-satan-they-have-you-worshiping-evil/ |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by Oloruntobi4382(m): 6:40pm On May 15, 2017 |
OtemAtum:Can't discuss it here with the little reputation i got with this account. |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by OtemAtum: 6:49pm On May 15, 2017 |
Oloruntobi4382:hmm 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by dsams: 1:34am On May 16, 2017 |
you people are just confusing and misinterpreting things wrongly. Yahweh is Jehovah the Almighty God of the Christians. he is not satan or devil or Lucifer that is in the pit for thousand years. you guys shud get sense OK? |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by Wilgrea7(m): 2:56am On May 16, 2017 |
OtemAtum: so you decided to do some research.. I'm guessing your search topic was either “Yahweh is Satan” or “is Yahweh satan"... ok ... let us continue... one reason why the statement alone is invalid.. is because satan is a term meaning adversary.. so how can Jehovah just be “adversary"... adversary to who and of whom.. let me take the article bit by bit disclaimer: I'm not attempting to explain or justify the old testament As I see it, Yahweh, the god of the bible, is in fact none other than the Great Deceiver himself, Satan. A far cry from the loving and compassionate god that his deceived followers claim he is, the bible pretty much says he is an ego-maniacal god of war and tyranny who if not obeyed, claims he will send you into eternal torture. He rules via fear and intimidation as tyrants do.this is funny because the people of the OT did not believe in hell... the doctrine of eternal torment is a Christian doctrine fueled by st Augustine.. talk with an Adventist on hell He requires death for the smallest of infractions, and even demands the murder of entire cities/nations for arbitrary reasons.as much as i highly dislike the killings of the OT... people who bring this up are trying to eat their cake and have it and are generally of the premise that Jehovah is not the supreme God... therefore, he has no right to flood the world or destroy sodom and Gomorrah etc.. the stance of the writers of the Torah was that Jehovah is the supreme God so therefore.. he can do whatever he wants with his creation.. if they disobey him, he can wipe them off.. this is only said to be true if you are of the same premise of the Torah writers that Jehovah is the creator.. we all agree to an extent that you have the right to do your will to your creation.. if you are of another premise(which most sceptics are) then there is a disagreement.. as for commanding cities to be wiped out by the Jews, there are rumors surrounding it and I'm not defending it.. the dead sea scrolls give more info on the happenings but indeed we've not heard the second side.. so I'm silent on that for lack of information... note.. i still do not condone the act of sending humans to kill humans.. it clearly goes against the “thou shall not kill" commandment.. except when killing in self defense, commanding others to just “kill" their fellow humans is a bit too contradictory Yet he has managed to garnerwhere the writer missed it was where he said Lucifer is an entity trying to overthrow God.. nah nah nah.. that view was developed by the Christians... we are talking about the OT here.. the Torah.. where they did not believe in any balance of good and evil or God and devil.. in fact.. they believed that the “devil" is just an angel used to test humans.. look up the Jewish view of Satan.. Look at the story of the garden… the story is a big allegory of course, but allegorical for what, exactly? It was Lucifer who brought knowledge to Adam and Eve, and showed them the bondage of ignorance they were restrained in. As Lucifer can be translated from Greek as “Bringer of Dawn”, it is fitting to call the garden story the allegory of humanitys long night in the darkness of ignorance, and the “Bringer of Dawn” who signaled the impending rising of the light, and the banishing of the dark.it depends on if you take the garden of eden story literal or symbolic.. not all sects of Judaism take it literal.. Judaism has denominations like Christianity too.. taking the biblical garden story literal is like trying to eat your cake and have it...
Jesus didn't come to tell us to worship him so we can get that Job or car or contract.. he came to give us a commandment to follow.. which was love.. let me summarise... are there some awkward things in the OT?? many... looking at the life of Jesus it seems he came to represent another God than that of the OT.. or... did he??... i don't know.. for someone who didn't come to abolish the 10 commandments but did make the law of moses, the very spokesman of God to the Israelites(yes.. the very person who allegedly communed one on one with God.. and gave the commandments in God's name{not the 10}.. ) ineffective.. for him to say Moses still stands against them to accuse them.. it makes you wonder what the hell is going on.. thats why teensway once said something about Jesus being the opposer of Jehovah.. but yet his name means “Yahweh saves"... at times one would wonder why Elijah would feel not so powerful after killing prophets of baal and then run from Jezebel if his God is so much in love with killing .. it will leave you with the following options * Jesus came in the name of Jehovah but then.. the people of old weren't really doing what this God wanted.. if they were, why then send Jesus? * Jesus came to represent another God.. but it would be funny considering Yahshua means Yah saves. * there is more to moses than we were told to believe * there is a hell lot of information missing the view if Jehovah being “the satan" like a main adversary etc is more of a Lazy position... you've asked me this and we've debated it countless times and i still end up with the same conclusion WE HAVE MISSED SOMETHING!!!!!!! . why would the same God loving bloodshed and war now send someone(yahshua) to preach peace not war.. love and not fear.. unity and not bloodshed.. if it adds up to you, it doesn't to me.. if this war loving God wanted control, he wouldn't send someone to tell people how to love their neighbours.. he'd send someone to teach them how to kill and cause more wars.. it doesn't add up.. with the information so far, its highly unlikely and too far from it to conclude that the Judeochristian God is “the Satan"... if you analyse the points well.. you'll get my point... also considering its just a title.. not much of an entity.. people who worship satan as an entity don't take the name/meaning of satan to be “adversary" but “bringer of Knowledge/power" or something like that ending disclaimer: I'm not supporting or justifying any unjust killing in the OT.. in fact, i detest it.. but looking through some stories.. it would be lazy to just arrive at the conclusion of the article.. to me. we missed something.. lets not be in too much of a hurry to fill in the gaps without proper info |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by OtemAtum: 7:43am On May 16, 2017 |
Wilgrea7:The same way you are criticizing this wonderful research website is the same way I have Ben criticizing all research websites I have ever seen, because none of them agree 100% with one another. Pls give me five research websites you have and let me check if they all said the same thing. Thanks. Concerning Yahweh being Satan, according to the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH, back many millions of years ago, he was called Adversary because of his opposition and intolerance to his brothers and to the homos(anakims, nephilims and rephaims) in those days. Please I'm waiting for the research websites, thanks. |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by Wilgrea7(m): 9:28am On May 16, 2017 |
OtemAtum:I'm not criticizing it blindly... i posted it here to analyse it.. there were obvious flops in the article which i pointed out.. it's called analysing a point.. i posted my analysis here for a reason.. so that people with contrary points can bring them up.. then we'll compare.. analyse both sides.. i analyse yours.. you analyse mine.. if we can drop our ego... we would both learn something.. did i defend the killings?? no.. i simply said that the position of Jehovah being satan seems to be a lazy hasty generalisation.. there is some serious info we missed.. that's still missing.. if you go over my points, you'll see my view.. i agree that manu things that happened in the OT are somewhat outrageous.. but there are other factors I've listed that to me, are too glaring to be ignored Pls give me five research websites you have and let me check if they all said the same thing. Thanks.already gave you steps before na Concerning Yahweh being Satan, according to the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH, back many millions of years ago, he was called Adversary because of his opposition and intolerance to his brothers and to the homos(anakims, nephilims and rephaims) in those days.first point bro 1. there is no historical or scientific(yes.. the whole science of reverad) evidence that showed that any civilization existed that worshiped the Judeochristian God millions of years ago.. i already gave you links on this before.. that if(it was very low probability) the neanderthal people(assuming they existed) had any religion, it was animalism.. like i said.. low probability.. very low for animalism.. talkless of abrahamic worship.. it's impossible.. so please stop running back to doctufos .. lets for once use history.. 2.there were no nephilims in those days.. because even the Sumerians in their creation story tall of the mating between humans and angels somewhat 7000 years ago.. not millions 3. the very gods you're linking together as “brothers" have never been linked together.. they have their individual creation stories and all are independent of each other.. in Egyptian mythology there are tons of Gods considered to be the “gods of creation" with different stories and non mentioning the rest as brothers.. the whole brother something is trying to eat your cake and have it |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by OtemAtum: 10:56am On May 16, 2017 |
Wilgrea7: 1. There is no historical evidence because the evidences were lost and I Otem have been chosen to bring them back. Or where else do you want to see or read of the events of billions of years back from except from a spiritual but true person? 2. How many times will I tell you that the stories you have read in all religious books are mere adulterated stories of events which actually happened millions of years back? Back from 200,000 years ago till the present days, no god, nephilim or analies have physically stepped into this physical world. They use their words(the words of the gods) to make it look as if they actually exist within the radius of 7,000-2000years ago. That's why I laugh at the ignorance of Christians who actually think that Jesus came to the world bodily 2000years ago. It is all the adulterated story of Faulkin and other gods who were bodily in the world millions of years back. 3. How many times will I tell you that all these gods were trying to form a false reality? They all gave their stories to an homo sapien through revelations that those homo sapiens should write them as God Almighty. They all tried by all means to make it look as if they didn't have rivals, but the truth is that they are rivals to one another. Yahweh knows his brothers and his brothers know him. Enki knows his brothers and his brothers know him. They can all bear me witness before God and nature that Atum their brother is revealing the truth to me. |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by Wilgrea7(m): 12:26pm On May 16, 2017 |
OtemAtum:Anyone can claim to bring back any scroll.. Go and read my post again.. I didn't state there was no information.. Read it again.. Historical evidences are contrary to your claim.. Contrary not absent 2. How many times will I tell you that the stories you have read in all religious books are mere adulterated stories of events which actually happened millions of years back? Back from 200,000 years ago till the present days, no god, nephilim or analies have physically stepped into this physical world. They use their words(the words of the gods) to make it look as if they actually exist within the radius of 7,000-2000years ago. That's why I laugh at the ignorance of Christians who actually think that Jesus came to the world bodily 2000years ago. It is all the adulterated story of Faulkin and other gods who were bodily in the world millions of years back.Real funny... Coincidentally ALL stories from all religions are adulterated while the one you have is the only true one... Do you even know how that sounds??... You really need to change this your mindset and start seeing the bigger picture.. Maybe you should take a trip down archeology... And see how they date things to NOT 200MILLOON YEARS AGO.. In as much as you want to prove that certain things in some of the holy books happened millions of yeard ago, history strongly disagrees with you.. You still don't believe Jesus existed right?? Why not try a little google... You can avoid Christian websites as well.. I'll be waiting.. 3. How many times will I tell you that all these gods were trying to form a false reality? They all gave their stories to an homo sapien through revelations that those homo sapiens should write them as God Almighty. They all tried by all means to make it look as if they didn't have rivals, but the truth is that they are rivals to one another. Yahweh knows his brothers and his brothers know him. Enki knows his brothers and his brothers know him. They can all bear me witness before God and nature that Atum their brother is revealing the truth to me. Yeah... The so called atum also said he created the world through sexual perversion... Cmon man.. You're trying to play mouthpiece of the gods.. If they wanted people to view them as the supreme being, then its because they probably didn't have rivals... Most of these gods were far away.. Shiva Odin etc.. What's funny is that you've not read the scriptures attributed to these gods before making conclusions... all gods suddenly wanted to create a false reality while yours just turned out to be true... I could say now that rah communicated with me and told me that reverad is his son blah blah blah.. Anybody can make such claim.. Its funny how the works of the previous otem didn't survive.. Ok.. Let me approach this from an atheistic standpoint.. You can't prove that any god is the son of any other god just by quoting a recently written letter.. And no.. You cannot prove that these are ancient scrolls being revealed to you.. We could quote from different books claiming this god is supreme etc.. But apart from written texts we have nothing.. Its too much of a coincidence that the doctufos mentioned the names of gods already known... That could be easily seen on google.. No you can't claim nature.. These individual gods claimed nature.. Basically... Tossing our books aside, we can't prove who is father and son... We need more than just letters if we are gonna prove anything.. By the way, I'm waiting for your research results on Jesus |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by OtemAtum: 12:33pm On May 16, 2017 |
Wilgrea7:Religious books are after worshipping a god, but the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH is a record book revealing only the truth. Once again, stories from religious books are adulterated to favour the god of such religion. But the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH, an irreligious book is here to tell the truth of the whole matter. .:The homos wrote what Atum didn't do, that's the reason why he has sent me to reveal the true history of everything. Atum himself was surprised when he returned from making findings millions of years back and discovered that human beings back then have written many stories concerning what he did not do. I will show you the passage in the DOCTUFOS OF truth. God the Universe is so mature that everyone would know sooner or later that there is indeed a higher consciousness in him. The maturity of God the Universe makes the immaturity of Yahweh and His other children appear as foolishness and vanity. Yahweh cannot come to 1/100000000000000000000000000 of the power of God his creator. Impossible! DOCTUFOS: Tabioth 18:1-16 |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by Wilgrea7(m): 12:58pm On May 16, 2017 |
OtemAtum:the doctufos talks about other gods.. mentioned them.. gave attributes.. locations etc.. because the writer of the doctufos knows what google is!!... there is nothing.. i mean.. literally nothing that the doctufos has to offer that hasn't been stated in another book.. its just a case of “dont buy from that guy.. buy from me",situation.. is it freedom of mind, spiritual advancement? freedom of the mind, love, tolerance, science, demonology, being gods?? there are books covering these aspects.. there were sects from different religions all over the world covering these aspects.. The homos wrote what Atum didn't do, that's the reason why he has sent me to reveal the true history of everything. Atum himself was surprised when he returned from making findings millions of years back and discovered that human beings back then have written many stories concerning what he did not do. I will show you the passage in the DOCTUFOS OF truth. i get your point.. but this God the universe you speak of.. has been claimed by many gods.. it goes more than just bringing up a name and attributing all gods as sons of the reverad.... so atum couldn't tell any of his worshippers the truth? they forced him against his will?? cmon man... lets just leave this talk.. because everything you claim to use to defend atum can be used to defend any other god.. i could say that Jehovah told me that he wasn't the one that was being referred to in the bible and that reverad used his name to cause havoc .. i could apply the same to Odin bro.. in my opinion, lets drop the argument.. enough pointless back and forth for one day.. I'm ready to take up the Jesus existence challenge tho.. if you research on it.. mention me when you post your findings... cheers |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by OtemAtum: 1:50pm On May 16, 2017 |
Wilgrea7:Yes, there are books talking about one thing or the other, but the availability of books isn't a licence to stopping one more BOOK from being revealed. And the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH is here as it has been predestined in the mind of God Almighty before the creation of these physical Universe and no bad god, neither Yahweh or Allah or Enlil or Moloch can stop it. Wilgrea7:We are in a free world bro. If you have revelations that the Bible was telling a lie against Jehovah, you are highly welcome because it will even make it faster for people to lose their belief in the evil book called the Bible. I would be very glad if you can actually get revelations to see that the Bible was telling lies against Jehovah. Lastly, the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH is not the first revelation and will not be the last revelation to be written down in human timeline. It is only more of a bridge to the future and not actually the end to knowledge because knowledge is dynamic and not static. Read the conversation of Otem Erectus with Anoni below: DOCTUFOS: Anoni 3:8-21 |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by Wilgrea7(m): 6:04pm On May 16, 2017 |
OtemAtum: believe me.. the Judeochristian God couldn't care less about the doctufos.. if He didn't stop other religions he definitely wouldn't stop yours bro.. I've come to understand there's way more to the Judeochristian God than what is in any of the holy books.. I'm just trying to stop you from making that mistake.. cheers |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by OtemAtum: 6:35pm On May 16, 2017 |
Wilgrea7:LOL, you didn't talk about how Enlil and Moloch couldn't stop other religion, you are talking about how Yahweh alone. FYI, religion is about worshipping a god while the DOCTUFUS OF TRUTH is only for you to know the history of the Universe. It isn't for you to be religious. If it is mistake I am making, guy, this mistake has really worked for me, removing my nightmares, getting me job 1000% more than my previous job, curing all my ailments, helping me to have enough to provide for some of the needs of others rather than for the need of the pot-bellied pastors. etc. . I love this mistake die |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by Wilgrea7(m): 9:28pm On May 16, 2017 |
OtemAtum:no reason in particular you are talking about how Yahweh alone. FYI, religion is about worshipping a god while the DOCTUFUS OF TRUTH is only for you to know the history of the Universe. It isn't for you to be religiousif its for history then I'm afraid its doing a really bad job historically... but basically, different religions have different purposes.. not all are about worshipping a god.. take Buddhism for example If it is mistake I am making, guy, this mistake has really worked for me, removing my nightmares, getting me job 1000% more than my previous job, curing all my ailments, helping me to have enough to provide for some of the needs of others rather than for the need of the pot-bellied pastors. etc. . I love this mistake die you got a job because you worked harder... your nightmares left because you stopped fearing them.. none of the benefits you listed are alien to Christianity.. so quit feeling that your life became better because you started calling a certain God names.. your life is better because you worked hard to make it so |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by OtemAtum: 10:04pm On May 16, 2017 |
Wilgrea7: MY GUY I DIDN'T WORK HARDER BEFORE EVERYTHING FELL IN PLACE O. In fact, It was the lowest moment of my effort the good job came and everything about me became better. However, it is all about the fact that I discovered my mission and right position on earth. Nobody will discover his mission on earth and remain the same. |
Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by OtemAtum: 10:08pm On May 16, 2017 |
Wilgrea7:How many times will I tell you that the content of the DOCTUFOS you have seen so far are the histories of the time of the big bang to the time of the homo Erectus. Our own history of homo sapiens hasn't yet entered into it. That's when you can judge if it doesn't go with homo sapien history or not, not now when it is still not yet fully revealed. |
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