You must be the only that sees what others dont see.
Please, tell me one thing that is functioning, i mean just one?
Tell me pls any reasonable law or anything that has passed that makes sense?
So what exactly about Yaradua is good for Nigeria, a leader that has been off power for how long now, a man that has been in power for years and nothing to show for it, or a leader that has nothing to offer?
Please tell me, and i beg you, dont tell me he brought the nation together, cos there seems to be more tense in that nation than ever.

paddy_lo:

u can eeeek all u want,

u and i know america has had,more sick leaders than yaradua that didnt resign

if anything like i said this incident shows the relative stability of our system

if u are looking for a strongman. . .go to mubaraks egypt,biyas cameroon,mugabes zimbabwe,dos santos angola,bongos gabon,the new military fool in guinea,libyas qaddaffi,etiopias zelawi,congos kabilla,the military fool in niger and chad,sudans bashir,mauritanias despots,ugandas mousiveni,rwandas kigame,i could go on but i think u get the point

Nigeria may not be perfect,but its system is such that no tin-pot dictator is welcome here

let yar'adua get well and finish his term,in the meantime the democratic institutions in the country are holding up quite well

and i expect another shriek from u,since u have nothing intelligent to come up with

Nice post, but like i said, tell me one thing that is working in Nigeria.
Just one and i beg you, dont tell me about GSM, cos even GSM aint working the way it ought to be.

There could have been some sick president in the past or present of America, but they dont have to be flown to another nation across the sea to take care of them, that alone shows that nothing is working, cos if a nation like Nigeria can have a medical team that can take care of her president within the nation, that is pathetic.
2. Americans wont have to worry that if their sick baby die, it might cause wahala, cos it is not yet the turn of "ibo" to rule as the Hausa still have more years on their "allocated" years of reign.
That alone is a sad thing.

paddy_lo:

[b]u can eeeek all u want,

u and i know america has had,more sick leaders than yaradua that didnt resign

paddy_lo:

if anything like i said this incident shows the relative stability of our system

paddy_lo:

if u are looking for a strongman. . .go to mubaraks egypt,biyas cameroon,mugabes zimbabwe,dos santos angola,bongos gabon,the new military fool in guinea,libyas qaddaffi,etiopias zelawi,congos kabilla,the military fool in niger and chad,sudans bashir,mauritanias despots,ugandas mousiveni,rwandas kigame,i could go on but i think u get the point

paddy_lo:

Nigeria may not be perfect,but its system is such that no tin-pot dictator is welcome here

paddy_lo:

let yar'adua get well and finish his term,in the meantime the democratic institutions in the country are holding up quite well and i expect another shriek from u,since u have nothing intelligent to come up with[/b]

paddy_lo:

see u just showed your bias. . go to the link i provide and read the 2 articles there below
http://www.businessdayonline.com/

one titled better time for phone users,and the other mobile internet usage soars

but according to u its small potatoes so. . .i will let u know that

nigeria is growing at 5% per annum for 2009,and growth is expected to accelerate next yr

sanusis banking reforms is a necessarry pill to swallow,which has been done

the niger delta crisis has been resolved peacefully

there is massive investment going on in lagos and rivers states,with a new lng scheduled for brass

now if u are abroad,u will know that the federal govt doesnt have to do anything for u
(ask kobojunkie he/she will tell u),they just have to provide defense,security,proper laws,and the states do most of the heavy lifting

2 things that should be done immediately is the deregulation of the oil industry which yaradua is working on

and deregulation of power. . .thats it

paddy_lo:

u should be more interested in having a system that doesnt care if one man falls sick or not

nigeria is made up of 36 states,and if all states are performing optimally,nobody would care if yaradua is gone for 30days

i dont know what u mean by nothing is working,but ppl in lagos seem to love their governor

u should talk about replicating that all over nigeria

yar adua as 1 man cannot solve Nigerias problems

u should know that by now

YOU CANNOT compare Nigeria, or anything NIGERIA, to America at this time, or else you lose  any ability to say something substantial even before you start

How does it show this? The Same SYSTEM was running right when Obasanjo was in office, was it also STABLE back then? What exactly . . . .  How exactly do you define relative Stability?

Did you bother asking the @Poster what his definition of STRONG MAN is? I believe his comment was that we needed someone of STRONG CHARACTER, not a STRONG MAN.  
In fact, we would need a definition of STRONG MAN or even STRONG CHARACTER(only the second seems self explanatory in this case), before we can go on.

WHAT?

So, it is OK that these so called “democratic SYSTEMS” are running the country by circumventing the will of the people every way they can? I don’t understand what you mean when you say they are running and holding up QUITE WELL. DO explain.

Thanks for the post Sir, as long as we keep it clean, we will have fun talking and exchanging views, but pls, no name calling, i can only yab Nija and no one else.
Now, on the peaceful resolution of N-Delta, wait till Yaradua kicks the bucket, then, we will know if there is peace or not.
Regarding the GSM and the Mobile internet usage, these are not the effort of the govt as a matter of fact, when they gave the license, to them, it was just another way for them to collect some money and move on, most of the govt official, never knew what they were signing, thank God it has improved comms, and i will never doubt that, but can u imagine how much money is being lost per day cos of bad internet connection, some banks still cant carry out some transaction all cos their connection is either slow, or too busy to handle the traffic.
These are all things that are more than necessary and important for a nation of such magnitude.
Now tell me, with all the billions of $$ that has been spent and yet no one can move from a place to another witout the noise of all those made in ajegunle generator, for how long are gonna be doing that and expect growth.
The kinda grow you talking about for 2009 shocked me, so it is either some people are cooking the books for you, or they have given us all some glasses to read some kinda figure that just aint there.
2009 is the year that most of the overstated books of the banks have crashed, so i will like to know where the growth came from.
Most of the coys in Nigeria has seen drastic loses.
Oil was sold in 2008 for over 100$ per barrel and in 2009 went as low as 56$, meaning it will surely affect the oil coys in Nigeria.
The GSM coy has been affected.
The Agricultural sector could be enjoying, but men are hungry and cant till the land, and we are not that mechanized to do jack
Nigerian foreign reserve has been affected so bad.
So where is the growth?

Hahahahahaha.
Another cooked book, UN wont go to the bush in Nigeria to see what is happening there, they will depend on the "data" that are collected by the drunk dataman.
Even the FG has annouced throughout 2009 that the federal reserve has gone down, so where do you get your data.

You know what, after reading through some of your other posts, I think it is better[b] we just accept we do not see things through the same goggles [/b]@Paddy_lo. Thanks for taking time to post a response but if you don't mind, can we please SEE OTHER PEOPLE? thanks!

we just accept we do not see things through the same goggles

paddy_lo:

suit yourself. . but u dont learn much by only seeking out ppl of like minds and agreeing with them all the time. .

u run the risk of being as shallow as the average dumb fox news or limbaugh dittohead. .

IVORY2009:

Listen, anybody can fall sick anytime, y should he resign?!

Dude, I am here trying to run away from you because you come off as one of the shallow averafe dumb fox news or limbaugh dittoheads to me.   You are here insulting them when I already see YOU as belonging to that very clan, lsn't that funny!!

I simply prefer seeking out people who are willing to argue their side RATIONALLY, from a 360 degree point) not offer me ZOMBIE retorts. I hate those. . . . I mean that you believe cell phone and internet tech in Nigeria today are testaments that Nigerian government is doing well already tells me TOO MUCH of what you have to offer me.

By the way, did you know that Obasanjo is the one who OPENED the door to the many foreign PRIVATE COMPANIES who made these technologies possible today? Also, There have been so many investors in Nigeria even while we were under millitary rule, did you know that? I mean I just hate debating the ONE-SIDED take on Nigeria and development. It is OLD to me now. I don't know how many ways one can argue or debate development in Nigeria with the "LAGOS ISLAND/ABUJA CENTRAL/PORT-HARCOURT (AGAIN) IS IMPROVING EQUALS NIGERIA IS DEVELOPING" crowd. I remember arguing with the same mindset back in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and now 2009. It is always the same points argued --- they never seem to really change much year after year. I have no plans of taking that habit of mine into 2010.  You get tired of it after a while, and I am. Hence the reason why I simply chose to bow out but since you suspected that meant I WAS THE ONE WITH THE ISSUE, I felt to let you know WHY I actually chose to do that.

Also, There have been so many investors in Nigeria even while we were under millitary rule, did you know that?

paddy_lo:

what u think or believe is not the point. . .i bring u facts and figures,instead u choose to argue semantics and get emotional. .

paddy_lo:

i am sure that the obasanjo u are praising now,that during his tenure u were bashing him. . .u are the dittohead,with nothing in naija works mentality

paddy_lo:

we dont need no strong man. . .we need strong institutions

i actually think this yar'adua issue has been good for naija democracy. . .

the senate is functioning,the judiciary is functioning,and the executive council is meeting

these are all co-equal branches of govt

so lets try and move on. . .

paddy_lo:

u can eeeek all u want,

u and i know america has had,more sick leaders than yaradua that didnt resign

if anything like i said this incident shows the relative stability of our system

if u are looking for a strongman. . .go to mubaraks egypt,biyas cameroon,mugabes zimbabwe,dos santos angola,bongos gabon,the new military fool in guinea,libyas qaddaffi,etiopias zelawi,congos kabilla,the military fool in niger and chad,sudans bashir,mauritanias despots,ugandas mousiveni,rwandas kigame,i could go on but i think u get the point

Nigeria may not be perfect,but its system is such that no tin-pot dictator is welcome here

let yar'adua get well and finish his term,in the meantime the democratic institutions in the country are holding up quite well

and i expect another shriek from u,since u have nothing intelligent to come up with

paddy_lo:


u should be more interested in having a system that doesnt care if one man falls sick or not

nigeria is made up of 36 states,and if all states are performing optimally,nobody would care if yaradua is gone for 30days

i dont know what u mean by nothing is working,but ppl in lagos seem to love their governor

u should talk about replicating that all over nigeria

yar adua as 1 man cannot solve Nigerias problems

u should know that by now

pacodas:

-Now u are talking sense. Who will set up that system?

- You cannot say that because in Nigeria's context the federal govt has much responsiblities unlike in US where they are concerned with defense, International affairs and few other duties

-Yar'Adua is already one of Nigeria's problems, talk more of other problems, He shouldn't compound it by hanging on there.

Kobojunkie:

How can one be TALKING sense when the idea being spewed is that the office of president become a CEREMONIAL one? Is that what is obtained in other democracies ( assuming we are still playing the COMPARE with others when CONVENIENT game)? Don't we have enough of those ceremonial positions( obas, obis, emirs) already?

The man DID NOT fall sick while in office, he was ILL even before he took office. The problem is NOT his illness, but the mere fact that the man has managed to, in a period of 2.5 years forced the country into a stagnant situation. If he(yar adua) wants to claim his ILLNESS did it, then we can focus on booting him out as a man too sick to perform his duties, a move definitely in accordance with the constitution.

vowiski:

Anyone thinking Mr. President would resign is obviously living in a word of illusion.
Didn't the Deputy senate president say he can rule for one year from Saudi Arabia?
lets keep Dreaming.