illusion2:

Nigeria !!! People worship pastors more than God. Any attempt to take them (pastors) up on their statements,is met with 'we are not supposed to question 'men of God' or 'let God judge'. We seem to have this false impression that God loves the pastor more than every other person?

Judge everything anybody tells you and don't be gullible !

We have the highest percentage of 'holy men',yet the most prevalent corruption and poverty in Africa.

Start thinking !!! Its not a SIN TO REASON.
God bless U man,,,,even the Bible says as a man thinketh in his heart so is that man,,,it simply means that nobody can ever be better than his thought life,,,


The suicide bomber is told he should not reason,cos it may be the 'devil' trying to confuse him. . . . . the same reasoning is now in christianity

The church leaders have their children in America & UK and they continue to tell you to pray & it will be well

illusion2:

Its a really sad fact. . . . . ,
I recall something that happened a few years back :
My dad attends deeper life,now I have nothing but respect for the GS of deeper life (pastor Kumuyi),but during one of his sermons ,he preached against US Visa lottery,calling it 'modern slavery'. . . . my dad(like most church members) accepted this funny point of view & we had an argument on this.
Now I came across a magazine recently where pastor kumuyi stated that his 2 sons are studying in the US.
Now ,why would you paint the US as some sort of slave depot,while your children are trying to get a better life there?

REAL TRUTH:

My guy you actually beat me to this,,,Kumuyi has only 2 children,,,and they both are studying in the US,,,What is wrong with Nigerian Unversities?,,On a more seriuos note,,,I only have respect for Kumuyi and Bakare amongst all Nigerian pastors,,,however people should always use their heads when dealing with any pastor whether they kumuyi or Bakare,,,Imagine the scenerio U just painted,,,if your dad turned down that opportunity,,what becomes of your generation in a country like Nigeria where pastors now sends their kids abroad to stduy,,,

illusion2:

Precisely. . . . .so rather than people applying common sense to whatever they hear in church,they take it hook,line & sinker. And whenever anyone raises any issue you are working for the devil. My GO has a house in the UK. I respect him,but people should open their eyes. . . .

Imagine someone saying he went to hell & saw somebody else ,& he was given the opportunity to come back to the earth

REAL TRUTH:

I also recently learnt that one of the sons of the late Bishop Benson Idahosa got married to a white American girl,,,are these not all conflictingOne pastors says don't go to America,,another pastor son is even getting married to a white american,,,,,,Religion is just a wicked thing!!!

REAL TRUTH:

Now just imagine a thing like that?? Pastor Bimbo's tape message still does great things in peoples life,,,how can someone be saying because of the way she dresses,,then she is going hell,,,in that regards,,whoever told anybody that the cloth we wearing now is what God wants us wear in the first place,,,as humans,,we should be wearing aprons,leafs and palmfronds,,

illusion2:

The main objective is to have people in this perpertual fear of going to hellfire,so they spend every day of the week in church . . . hoping & praying to make heaven. Continuosly giving their all and questioning nothing. . . . , . . . & yet from this 'revelation' nothing is guaranteed. . .meanwhile pastor is sorting himself in this life ,but encouraging you to forget this world & invest in your eternity. . . .

naijacutee:

Because we are corrupt and greedy, that's why. We christians are seeking first money, power and "breakthrough", when we were commanded to seek first the kingdom of God. How far have we strayed from the first set of christians. If we go back to the book of Acts and study how the first generation of christians lived, we would be ashamed of ourselves. No one is saying that all christians should live in poverty, especially in Nigeria where poverty is seen as something worse than leprosy. It's all about living to glorify God, not living to make money and show everyone that you're not suffering.

illusion2:

The main objective is to have people in this perpertual fear of going to hellfire,so they spend every day of the week in church . . . hoping & praying to make heaven. Continuosly giving their all and questioning nothing. . . . , . . . & yet from this 'revelation' nothing is guaranteed. . .meanwhile pastor is sorting himself in this life ,but encouraging you to forget this world & invest in your eternity. . . .

illusion2:

Partially true. . . . but we can't live exactly like the early christians. The world is very different now. The Bible should always be read in context.

naijacutee:

I'm sure the early church had their challenges as well. They had the rich and the poor. They had corrupt preachers who favoured certain people because of ther wealth. They had occultic people who did magic and tried to use the name of Jesus to vover up. Yes, circumstances may have changed but attitudes remain the same, so it is absolutely possible to live like the early christians. I won't deny that obviously we have more obstacles, as temptations are now easily accessible, but then we have guidelines on how to avoid these.

illusion2:

The main objective is to have people in this perpertual fear of going to hellfire,so they spend every day of the week in church . . . hoping & praying to make heaven. Continuously giving their all and questioning nothing. . . . , . . . & yet from this 'revelation' nothing is guaranteed. . .meanwhile pastor is sorting himself in this life ,but encouraging you to forget this world & invest in your eternity. . . .

illusion2:

Judge everything anybody tells you and don't be gullible !

Start thinking !!! Its not a SIN TO REASON.

jagunlabi:

We can never be manipulated unless we allow ourselves to be.