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Empiree:
mostyg,

Which state are you at?

mostyg:
Ijebu ode, Ogun state Sir.

mostyg:
Most of these pastor use powerful jinns on less powerful one. Also there are Christians among the jinns who help some pastors without the latter's knowledge. One Christian jinn during a ruqyah section revealed the effort he makes in converting humans into Christianity. They are the ones who usually bring picture of Christ to people in their dreams.
I also once heard of a pastor who named his jinn Jesus. So whenever he says "in Jesus name" , he his actually referring to his jinn.

Just yesterday, a lady came to my office to ask I didn't include her name in a list I was authorized to work on and released. This is someone I know and I see the efforts she makes to excel. We later got talking and I asked her about how often she has headache. She responded that it is frequent. One of the diagnostic sign of jinn possession is frequent headache.
I asked her about pain in any part of the body, her response was also positive. She said she also sometimes hear sounds in the hear. She said she couldn't remember her dreams. I probed further and asked about sex in dreams. Response was also positive.
Other signs I found out from her include being afraid of the dark ( she can't sleep with light off), always scared of every little things and feeling something moving in her body.

She thought everything was normal, there is no big deal experiencing all those.
I knew I was dealing with a case of jinn possession. I was in my office and couldn't do ruqyah, so I told her to close her eyes and talk to her mind, to talk as if she is talking to someone ( of course, the jinn). She should ask the following questions, who are you? Why are you troubling my life? What did I do to you? Etc. After some minutes, I told her to open her eyes and asked her to tell me what happened. She told me" I feel empty as if something left my body" She meant she feel light, I knew the jinn left because I also felt a mild electric sock on my body. She also she saw a dark male shape but didn't see the face..
I know the jinn left and may come back to her later because a jinn lover don't leave easily. She would need ruqyah.

Those things I asked her a signs of jinn or human possession but we sometimes take no heed.

Like I said before, I am an accidental raqi with a regular office job. I m not an Alfa as some would have thought.

mostyg:
Most of these pastor use powerful jinns on less powerful one. Also there are Christians among the jinns who help some pastors without the latter's knowledge. One Christian jinn during a ruqyah section revealed the effort he makes in converting humans into Christianity. They are the ones who usually bring picture of Christ to people in their dreams.
I also once heard of a pastor who named his jinn Jesus. So whenever he says "in Jesus name" , he his actually referring to his jinn.

Just yesterday, a lady came to my office to ask I didn't include her name in a list I was authorized to work on and released. This is someone I know and I see the efforts she makes to excel. We later got talking and I asked her about how often she has headache. She responded that it is frequent. One of the diagnostic sign of jinn possession is frequent headache.
I asked her about pain in any part of the body, her response was also positive. She said she also sometimes hear sounds in the hear. She said she couldn't remember her dreams. I probed further and asked about sex in dreams. Response was also positive.
Other signs I found out from her include being afraid of the dark ( she can't sleep with light off), always scared of every little things and feeling something moving in her body.

She thought everything was normal, there is no big deal experiencing all those.
I knew I was dealing with a case of jinn possession. I was in my office and couldn't do ruqyah, so I told her to close her eyes and talk to her mind, to talk as if she is talking to someone ( of course, the jinn). She should ask the following questions, who are you? Why are you troubling my life? What did I do to you? Etc. After some minutes, I told her to open her eyes and asked her to tell me what happened. She told me" I feel empty as if something left my body" She meant she feel light, I knew the jinn left because I also felt a mild electric sock on my body. She also she saw a dark male shape but didn't see the face..
I know the jinn left and may come back to her later because a jinn lover don't leave easily. She would need ruqyah.

Those things I asked her a signs of jinn or human possession but we sometimes take no heed.

Like I said before, I am an accidental raqi with a regular office job. I m not an Alfa as some would have thought.

Empiree:
LadunaI,

See trait of what I was talking about. I just learned few hours ago that a Nigerian guy was arrested and jailed for selling cars from US to nija. I told this American girl who told me that it is not a crime. There gotta be something he was doing Wrong.

So she said authority wanted to know source of his funds and how he managed to buy expensive cars and send them to nija to sell. But unfortunately he can not prove this. Instead of jailing him after conviction, they gave him two options:


work for them (i:e snitch on the people he was dealing with or be an informant)

Or

Go to jail


So he chose the later and was jailed. He said he's can't snitch on people. See how America works sometimes. This is how they catch drug dealers too. But snitch/informant is deadly job. Your life is on the line and authorities don't care if you die in the process.


They did the same thing to a young white girl few yrs ago. She was caught with high kilograms of illegal drugs and was facing 4yrs in prison. She was crying so bad bcus that was her first time. So police made a deal with her to lead them to bad guys whom she deals with. She was to be police informant without given her proper training. They only gave her device to place on her body. She thought it was easy. The next day after she was assigned the "job", authority found her lifeless body in the bush in Florida. Gangs killed her and took spy device on her.


The best way to avoid getting in this mess is to stay away from crimes. That way, it will be difficult for police or other agencies to force you to be their stooge. But once you committed crimes, even if you are not indicted yet, they can use it against you. They just give you two choices, jail or snitch on others. Now imagine someone going to jail for decades but offered this opportunity to be informant and get paid on top of it?.


Arab guy was in the same situation after 9/11. He spied for govt and built his fortune from that. Some make as much as $100k per yr snitching on others. Our world is not fair at all. So this Nigerian guy, from what I gathered, he committed money laundering in the eyes of the govt. This is why I rejected Mr. A in the story I narrated weeks ago in this thread. Imagine he wanted to buy 100 cars for $100k each and he doesn't want to declare his business officially and wanted to have money transferred into my account. Obviously I would have been in trouble.

LadunaI:
How I wish our government can be proactive enough to question suspicious wealth, investigate and prosecute if their any infringement. I believe our country we'll be better for it at long run. But alas! in fact, that's what we celebrate here is naija. Nobody cares how you make it, just hammer you becomes instant celeb lol.

it seems these people relied so much on intelligence gathering, invest so much in it because that's what give them edge most time, so am not surprise with all their snitch or covert operations. It seems is very dicey living in the state, any form of crime committed can easily land you into big problem. That's remind me of a colleague we serve together, his siblings are USC but he's here in naija hustling. I was like why can't you move to US, he said " eeh! If I mistakenly download some illegal movie or software the next thing is police knocking on my door" lol. He was practically scared of crime over there.

Thank God you're wise enough to reject that business proposition from Mr A then. There this popular Nollywood actress that was deported sometimes along from US (Atlanta), because of money laundering charges. I'm sure you know her. May God continuing protecting una there.

Empiree:
indeed, this is something Nigeria needs intelligent wise as long as it is not abused. It does get abused here in some cases. That's where the problem is but it works fine to curb crimes. Just that actual innocent people get caught up in the process.

Some people can't leave crimes. That's why the guy doesn't want to come to US. Crime is in his blood. That's why average Americans go to jail. There is a saying that you if don't have criminal record you are not real American or your are not American enough. So it surprises some people if you have clean record

LadunaI:
LMAO you're very funny sir. How do you know that for sure lol. This is a gentle guy, an IT geek. It just that he has reservation for possible implications for crime you don't even know or really intented doing. Like what you alluded to about their abuses of their spy operations that can implicate innocent people. This is somebody that had his elementary sch in US before moving down.

Why is that if one have not committed crime or debt ridden , you're NOT yet an Americant? That's funny.

I hope is simply playing by the rules, and one is free from any wahala.

Empiree:
They want you to keep paying small amount every month for 5yrs to establish "good credit". What ignorant people don't understand is that good credit don't out food on their table. But to be debt free is gold.

So you have to have criminal record and be debt ridden to be a good American it is a trick



Hello yourself, sir

LadunaI:
That's is very cruel!. So, all this America dream boils now of been in perpetual debt till "eternity". Muslims must NOT be caught in this mess.

The Prophet(saw) warned us critically about debt, to the extent that as loftly as position of mujaheedeen is in the sight of Allah, their debt wouldn't be forgiven whilst other shortcomings would be for them, if they die in the battle field. This shows the gravity of debt. May Allah protect us from it.

I want to believe that more than 50% of Americans dies with one form of debt or the other because of this useless system.

No wonder Robert Kiyoski was saying in one video that there are "good debt". The one in which you invest perhaps in real estate, which will always fetch you not only the monthly payback money but also small change in your pocket lol. You beat then in their own game.

Jamo90:
Everybody wants to know more about the topic being discussed. It all began with a question. Mostyg, please share your experience with us before you go AWOL like ikupakuti.

And yes, you have to give us a week notice before you leave. Lol
Stuffs like these strengthens Iman.

LadunaI:
Thanks bro mostly for this. I'd wanted to ask, but thank God you're dishing out stuffs for us to learn from. Btw from want you mentioned above as per diagnostic technique to know the presence of jinn, is it exhaustive? or they 're other signs that can still show that the jinn had possessed the body? Is recitation of Quranic verses make the jinn uncomfortable and by extension the person that will make them not to want to listen or near it(recitation), which might indicate possibility of presence of jinn in their body due to their exasperation?

I knew that most pastor especially TB Joshua used jinn to get some hidden info about people from Qarin of the person.

Pls tell us what normally trigger this, and can jinn possess somebody very active with their daily salat?

Kindly share more of your experience with these jinns as a raqqi so that we can all benefit from it. I think our ignoramus in this subject has really make thing worse especially among unsuspecting muslims.

Dreydoe:
Rain pummeling you or taking Ur bath with Rain water is good.

Serves more like a protection from evil eyes, shir, knots and the likes.

There is abdunance of blessing in the Rain.. Empower your self

Allah Alam

yusburg:
I always had a dream about flying with no wings to anywhere, sometimes to a place where there was many stars and darkness please somebody should interpret it for me.

mostyg:
There are lots of other signs such as depression, frequently encountering cobwebs, insomnia etc.
Recitation of the Quran usually makes jinns uncomfortable. This depends on intention and the reciters. I have seen cases where the jinns recites along with the reciter and the recitation had NO obvious result on it. And I have seen cases where continuous repetition of basmallah made the jinn very uncomfortable and begged to be allowed to leave.
Can jinn possess someone very active in his ibaadah? My answer is this, how does someone knows his ibaadah are accepted by Allah? Our ibaadah should be to earn Allah's reward and Allah may decide to test us with anything. May He not test us with burden we cannot bear.
Remember the reason for the revelation of suratul falaq and mass.

Allahu ahlam.