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Re: ...... by Empiree: 4:33pm On Apr 14, 2019
aadoiza:
Bros eeh. I never forget the story oo..
movado19:
Wallahi, only God knows why he is M.I.A.
Just a sentence of his has got me searching far and wide, lol!
Allah really blessed him.
you honestly need to get close to a brother called jamo90. I must mention his moniker bcuz, he quietly learned here. I no go lie he shocked me when he researched everything I narrated in terms of tassawuf from "Jinn Stories" created by tbaba in 2012 and this one. The brother quietly learned incognito in this platform. One day, he surprised me with a email he sent me that he followed by advice to look for Dua I mentioned in this thread and that thread and concluded that I was saying the truth. But unfortunately he wanted to get the tírà from one baba who declined to hand it over to him even for money. I told him it is understandable why baba would not give it up like that.

It is jabbariya that our baba called "jabaru". It is tírà awón Alfa agbalagba. If they invoke this jabbaru filled with more than 99Names and Attributes of Allah, Allah will respond lesekese. Allah Akbar. You get to see wonders. Go and read Jinn Stories thread where I made reference to this.

But today, even if those baba give you for free you may never know the value. It is a lifetime treasure if only you can sit and make this dua. But then, after doing it you must make some sacrifices like big ram or cow and distribute the meat people to eat. It is one powerful Dua coupled with Yasin and it's khutba.

This is what my Sheikh lives on till this day. But it doesn't mean one can't have tribulations.
Re: ...... by Empiree: 4:36pm On Apr 14, 2019
aadoiza:
Bros eeh. I never forget the story oo..
yes, I'm still around. Just taking my time and trying to get over distraction here
Re: ...... by movado19: 4:40pm On Apr 14, 2019
Empiree:
Double Post
Hmm, Empiree! Honestly, that your Jabbariyya dua, I searched helter skelter (especially on sribd website) and other sites but couldn't find it!
I just didn't reach out to you on it because I remeber you mentioned it being scarce to get in one of your past posts or something.
Now you have got me thinking...an uncle of mine promised me some years back to give me a dua when I reach the age of maturity. I can't remember what he called it, but I will now ask him what it was as well as contact Jamo.
Than you for this valuable information!
Re: ...... by YUNGCONCEPT11(m): 4:46pm On Apr 14, 2019
Oga Movado Sheik EMPIREE make una no forget we children that is here fah...pls oooo
Re: ...... by movado19: 4:49pm On Apr 14, 2019
Empiree:
you honestly need to get close to a brother called jamo90. I must mention his moniker bcuz, he quietly learned here. I no go lie he shocked me when he researched everything I narrated in terms of tassawuf from "Jinn Stories" created by tbaba in 2012 and this one. The brother quietly learned incognito in this platform. One day, he surprised me with a email he sent me that he followed by advice to look for Dua I mentioned in this thread and that thread and concluded that I was saying the truth. But unfortunately he wanted to get the tírà from one baba who declined to hand it over to him even for money. I told him it is understandable why baba would not give it up like that.

It is jabbariya that our baba called "jabaru". It is tírà awón Alfa agbalagba. If they invoke this jabbaru filled with more than 99Names and Attributes of Allah, Allah will respond lesekese. Allah Akbar. You get to see wonders. Go and read Jinn Stories thread where I made reference to this.

But today, even if those baba give you for free you may never know the value. It is a lifetime treasure if only you can sit and make this dua. But then, after doing it you must make some sacrifices like big ram or cow and distribute the meat people to eat. It is one powerful Dua coupled with Yasin and it's khutba.

This is what my Sheikh lives on till this day. But it doesn't mean one can't have tribulations.
Empiree, this tírà, is it like a "master key" or "Asraar" if I may call it so?
In essence, it is Surah Yasin Khutbah, then the dua Jabbariyyah and then lastly the tírà?
Re: ...... by movado19: 4:56pm On Apr 14, 2019
Empiree:
you honestly need to get close to a brother called jamo90. I must mention his moniker bcuz, he quietly learned here. I no go lie he shocked me when he researched everything I narrated in terms of tassawuf from "Jinn Stories" created by tbaba in 2012 and this one. The brother quietly learned incognito in this platform. One day, he surprised me with a email he sent me that he followed by advice to look for Dua I mentioned in this thread and that thread and concluded that I was saying the truth. But unfortunately he wanted to get the tírà from one baba who declined to hand it over to him even for money. I told him it is understandable why baba would not give it up like that.

It is jabbariya that our baba called "jabaru". It is tírà awón Alfa agbalagba. If they invoke this jabbaru filled with more than 99Names and Attributes of Allah, Allah will respond lesekese. Allah Akbar. You get to see wonders. Go and read Jinn Stories thread where I made reference to this.

But today, even if those baba give you for free you may never know the value. It is a lifetime treasure if only you can sit and make this dua. But then, after doing it you must make some sacrifices like big ram or cow and distribute the meat people to eat. It is one powerful Dua coupled with Yasin and it's khutba.

This is what my Sheikh lives on till this day. But it doesn't mean one can't have tribulations.
I have reached out to Jamo90 and I pray he answers, InshaAllah.
Re: ...... by Empiree: 5:05pm On Apr 14, 2019
movado19:
Emp.iree, this tírà, is it like a "master key" or "Asraar" if I may call it so?
In essence, it is Surah Yasin Khutbah, then the dua Jabbariyyah and then lastly the tírà?
I like jamo90 bcuz, he's not here just reading and praising. He goes out to physically do research and I am so amazed by that.

As for this, it is all tírà. Babas made it easy for us by extracting them. In ideal Sufi manhaj, they recite khutba Yasin after reciting Yasin.

What I said is not easy faah. I know exactly how my Sheikh struggled through this those years. And he didn't do just for people all the time but for himself too.
Re: ...... by YUNGCONCEPT11(m): 5:42pm On Apr 14, 2019
SHEIKS IN THE HOUSE CAN SOMEONE GO ON WITH THAT BASMALAH 1026
Re: ...... by movado19: 8:25pm On Apr 14, 2019
Empiree:
I like jamo90 bcuz, he's not here just reading and praising. He goes out to physically do research and I am so amazed by that.

As for this, it is all tírà. Babas made it easy for us by extracting them. In ideal Sufi manhaj, they recite khutba Yasin after reciting Yasin.

What I said is not easy faah. I know exactly how my Sheikh struggled through this those years. And he didn't do just for people all the time but for himself too.
Hmm! I get you.
The dua Jabbaru, could you give the first line or two so I can more easily search for it? It has been an elusive exercise so far.
May Allah grant us the strength to ever seek His nearness, Amin.
Re: ...... by aadoiza: 11:16pm On Apr 14, 2019
Empiree:
like sheikh Daud Alfa Nla would say, there is no need to respond to this idiot. Allah responds on their behalf. Sheikh Malik Adebayo said the same thing. Sheikh Muhammad mustapha Ashile and Sheikh Ahmed Alaye all said the same thing. One is to be careful for insulting them. You never know their status before Allah. We can't even do much as they do in terms of worship. We are so distracted by duniya today.

This reminds me of hadith of Nabi (saw) that when Allah loves someone He(swt) becomes the person eyes, hands, mouth etc. He responds at appropriate time.

So what happened to the guy, did he learn one or two things after that incident?. Did he learn to keep his mouth shut and his eyes open next time?
To the best of my knowledge, the guy went ghost-mode since then. But my big bro would know better Shaa
Re: ...... by aadoiza: 11:22pm On Apr 14, 2019
Empiree:
you honestly need to get close to a brother called jamo90. I must mention his moniker bcuz, he quietly learned here. I no go lie he shocked me when he researched everything I narrated in terms of tassawuf from "Jinn Stories" created by tbaba in 2012 and this one. The brother quietly learned incognito in this platform. One day, he surprised me with a email he sent me that he followed by advice to look for Dua I mentioned in this thread and that thread and concluded that I was saying the truth. But unfortunately he wanted to get the tírà from one baba who declined to hand it over to him even for money. I told him it is understandable why baba would not give it up like that.

It is jabbariya that our baba called "jabaru". It is tírà awón Alfa agbalagba. If they invoke this jabbaru filled with more than 99Names and Attributes of Allah, Allah will respond lesekese. Allah Akbar. You get to see wonders. Go and read Jinn Stories thread where I made reference to this.

But today, even if those baba give you for free you may never know the value. It is a lifetime treasure if only you can sit and make this dua. But then, after doing it you must make some sacrifices like big ram or cow and distribute the meat people to eat. It is one powerful Dua coupled with Yasin and it's khutba.

This is what my Sheikh lives on till this day. But it doesn't mean one can't have tribulations.
They can't just handover such tira to anybody. You don't get such tira readily, you earn it through devotion to the course.
Re: ...... by aadoiza: 11:27pm On Apr 14, 2019
movado19:
Hmm! I get you.
The dua Jabbaru, could you give the first line or two so I can more easily search for it? It has been an elusive exercise so far.
May Allah grant us the strength to ever seek His nearness, Amin.
The truth is, you can't get those tiras online. You've got to search for them out there in the real world.
Re: ...... by aadoiza: 11:47pm On Apr 14, 2019
movado19:
Lol!
I had a conversation with one of my uncles yesterday and he made mention of people whom the Shaitan has successfully planted the seed of doubt in their hearts and has steadily grown. He gave an example of those who outrightly reject the verse of concern, stating that it is not part of the Quran, a fabrication that was snuck in by some people after the prophet S.A.W. passed on!
So their reasoning is that since the verse is not legit, then they don't even bother to recite it once they get to the end of the surah, or some just don't bother reading the surah Tawbah since according to them, the verse of concern has corrupted the whole surah!!!!!
May Allah keep evil away from us, Amin.
He said to me that such things occur slowly but steadily over time. First, it is to discard a verse, then a surah, and then ultimately the whole Quran!
He said to me why the verse of concern? Something that wards off "anyhow anyhow" accidents or deaths is the one shaitan has made them discard, so they have become "uncovered", "open" game for shaitan and his cohorts! Allahu Akbar!
He said if Muslims are to practice Islam the right way, no one should be standing to claim that angels or Ruhaniyyah don't appear to people because everyone would have experienced it at some point in time or the other. It would be a given for all. But because people have strayed far away and they don't polish away their sins with zikr and istigfar, then how do they expect to converse or meet with such beings?
He said they are pure and love only the pure and that anyone who dedicates his/her life to Allah and is in constant zikr must surely encounter them in their lifetime as they would be the ones vying to gain nearness to you by the leave of Allah.
He said seeing/encountering them is Allah trying to let you know something like how well you are doing as per your station and stuff and that you are walking on "Sirat Al Mustakym".
So there are also supposed Muslims discarding some ayah of the Quran? I give up.
On the possibilities of seeing angels and ruhaniya through walking the right path as laid down by our Master SAW, Empiree has stated similar things over and over on here, and I have come to realise he knows and understands what he's saying and not just drivelling on what is unclear to him.
That uncle of yours must be very learned. The likes of you and Empiree are favoured by Allah to have such enlightened scholars as blood relatives. I wish I had one as a relative.
Re: ...... by leksbore(m): 12:00am On Apr 15, 2019
I like the page
Re: ...... by movado19: 1:01am On Apr 15, 2019
aadoiza:
The truth is, you can't get those tiras online. You've got to search for them out there in the real world.
Yes, my uncle mentioned it about an hour ago that I will not get the dua Jabbaru online and that he knows it is usually cow that is killed after reading it. He says he is very conversant with the Yasin kutba, as well as the tira. So I asked him why he never mentioned it and his answer was how many things will he speak of?! Lol!
Re: ...... by movado19: 1:09am On Apr 15, 2019
aadoiza:
So there are also supposed Muslims discarding some ayah of the Quran? I give up.
On the possibilities of seeing angels and ruhaniya through walking the right path as laid down by our Master SAW, Empiree has stated similar things over and over on here, and I have come to realise he knows and understands what he's saying and not just drivelling on what is unclear to him.
That uncle of yours must be very learned. The likes of you and Empiree are favoured by Allah to have such enlightened scholars as blood relatives. I wish I had one as a relative.
So there are also supposed Muslims discarding some ayah of the Quran? I give up.
The madness out there is real.

On the possibilities of seeing angels and ruhaniya through walking the right path as laid down by our Master SAW, Empiree has stated similar things over and over on here, and I have come to realise he knows and understands what he's saying and not just drivelling on what is unclear to him.
@ Empiree is on the path of Haqq!

That uncle of yours must be very learned. The likes of you and Empiree are favoured by Allah to have such enlightened scholars as blood relatives. I wish I had one as a relative.
Empiree is way luckier. He saw, witnessed and lived in such a blessed environment for a long time.
He is actually my first cousin but due to age different and much respect for him is why I call him uncle.
The man is a treasure trove. Sometimes you tend to temporarily forget what you have due to life happening around you until something or someone points it out; which in this case has been mainly Empiree's experiences as well as EmekaRaj, and other's stories.
Re: ...... by Empiree: 4:38am On Apr 15, 2019
movado19:
Yes, my uncle mentioned it about an hour ago that I will not get the dua Jabbaru online and that he knows it is usually cow that is killed after reading it. He says he is very conversant with the Yasin kutba, as well as the tira. So I asked him why he never mentioned it and his answer was how many things will he speak of?! Lol!
your uncle is right, wallahi. Exactly what we did back then. Cow must be slaughtered because this is a very powerful Dua.

Online ke?. Jabbariya is not online. Go offline to those baba. And I don't think they would give you even if you want to pay. Jamo90 tried to pay to get it but the man turned him down according to him. My sheik served his sheikh for 12yrs to obtain this. This is why jabbariya is called a'dua awón agbalagba. It has 'majemu" covenant.

To those who may be wondering what's is Dua jabbariya?. It is derived from Jabar. Jabar is Allah's Name which means "The Compeller"
Re: ...... by movado19: 4:55am On Apr 15, 2019
Empiree:
your uncle is right, wallahi. Exactly what we did back then. Cow must be slaughtered because this is a very powerful Dua.

Online ke?. Jabbariya is not online. Go offline to those baba. And I don't think they would give you even if you want to pay. Jamo90 tried to pay to get it but the man turned him down according to him. My sheik served his sheikh for 12yrs to obtain this. This is why jabbariya is called a'dua awón agbalagba. It has 'majemu" covenant.

To those who may be wondering what's is Dua jabbariya?. It is derived from Jabar. Jabar is Allah's Name which means "The Compeller"
Online ke?. Jabbariya is not online.
Lol! I don't know what I was thinking.
I had to trace back to the Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory thread to really read the conversations between you and Jamo90 regarding the dua Jabbaru and Yasin.
I must say that he's lucky to have gotten a hold of the dua Jabbaru to recite with Surah Yasin, even though he wasn't able to get the last part.

Go offline to those baba. And I don't think they would give you even if you want to pay. Jamo90 tried to pay to get it but the man turned him down according to him.
Money?! those men won't even regard you like that if you try bringing money into the picture. They are not moved by such fanfare, to begin with. People that have understood alchemy sotay are the ones that money will trip? Na, I don't think so.

My sheik served his sheikh for 12yrs to obtain this. This is why jabbariya is called a'dua awón agbalagba. It has 'majemu" covenant.
Wallahi your Sheikh really tried and he is reaping the bounty now, mashaAllah. This goes to show that any sincere effort towards Allah will always be appreciated by Him, Inshaallah.

Empiree, what's your take on those of us who are serious about turning to Allah in this fast-paced world of ours. I mean, where do most people even begin to look for a reliable sheikh to assist on this journey?
It is not easy to come by a lot of these knowledge, and I sometimes feel sorry for the people who do nothing but bark because if one looks closely into thier lives, they did nothing but what is now termed as secular Islam.
How can the serious people go about thier journey without wandering aimlessly and blindly in this vast and endless ocean?
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 8:19am On Apr 15, 2019
movado19:
He said they are pure and love only the pure and that anyone who dedicates his/her life to Allah and is in constant zikr must surely encounter them in their lifetime as[b] they[b] would be the ones vying to gain nearness to you by the leave of Allah[/b].[/b]
He said seeing/encountering them is Allah trying to let you know something like how well you are doing as per your station and stuff and that you are walking on "Sirat Al Mustakym".
I really like this submission @ bolded, and by extension the whole of this paragraph. Thanks!
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 8:27am On Apr 15, 2019
I think @empiree should have this jabbariya dua shocked, or atleast know where he can help us find it.

Oga empiree help your people find this o, so that we can partake in its spiritual benefits.
Re: ...... by Empiree:
LadunaI:
I think @emp.iree should have this jabbariya dua shocked, or atleast know where he can help us find it.

Oga empi.ree help your people find this o, so that we can partake in its spiritual benefits.
I understand. If I do, unfortunately I won't say I do bcus of pressure here. Babas don't want this Dua to become yèyé.

This young Alfa I was talking about earlier told me he got jabbariya when I was talking about it. I was surprised actually. And I understood why he was fortunate to get it. He's devoted one. He has all three (3).

Jabbariya

Yasin

Khutba Yasin

These are enough to make it in life. Again, I truly appreciate jamo90. The brother made me proud last year or 2017 when he sent me email and he even screenshot khutba Yasin and I know he got the right one when I read first few lines exactly like the one my Sheikh has. I think they gave him Khutba but they didn't give him jabbariya.

So this young Alfa I'm talking about served a sheik in Kano. From the way he talks and experiences he narrated to me shows he deserves to acquire jabbariya.

They won't give jabbariya to a part time muslim. They rather die with it than to give it up. You know many don't have strong muslim background which further makes it difficult. This doesn't mean they are being greedy. See what the world turned today. So scary.

My advice is to simply let Alfa organize Dua for you (I don't mean you personally) instead of trying to acquire it. That's what we used to do. But it now cost money to even organize this Dua these days bcuz other people are involved that must get paid.
Re: ...... by aadoiza: 2:01pm On Apr 15, 2019
movado19:
Yes, my uncle mentioned it about an hour ago that I will not get the dua Jabbaru online and that he knows it is usually cow that is killed after reading it. He says he is very conversant with the Yasin kutba, as well as the tira. So I asked him why he never mentioned it and his answer was how many things will he speak of?! Lol!
Na so.
Re: ...... by aadoiza: 2:10pm On Apr 15, 2019
Empiree:
I understand. If I do, unfortunately I won't say I do bcus of pressure here. Babas don't want this Dua to become yéyé.

This young Alfa I was talking about earlier told me he got jabbariya when I was talking about it. I was surprised actually. And I understood why he was about to get it. He's devoted one. He has all three (3).

Jabbariya

Yasin

Khutba Yasin

These are enough to make it in life. Again, I truly appreciate jamo90. The brother made me proud last year or 2017 when he sent me email and he even screenshot khutba Yasin and I know he got the right one when I read first few lines exactly like the one my Sheikh has. I think they gave him Khutba but they didn't give him jabbariya.

So this young Alfa I'm talking about served a sheik in Kano. From the way he talks and experiences he narrated to me shows he deserves to acquire jabbariya.

They won't give jabbariya to a part time muslim. They rather die with it than to give it up. You know many don't have strong muslim background which further makes it difficult. This doesn't mean they are being greedy. See what the world turned today. So scary.

My advice is to simply let Alfa organize Dua for you (I don't mean you personally) instead of trying to acquire it. That's what we used to do. But it now cost money to even organize this Dua these days bcuz other people are involved that must get paid.
I hope it's possible to meet your sheikh in the future - If Allah wishes - because right now, ehn, I'mma broke-ass nigga.
Re: ...... by Empiree:
movado19:
Empir.ee, what's your take on those of us who are serious about turning to Allah in this fast-paced world of ours. I mean, where do most people even begin to look for a reliable sheikh to assist on this journey?
In my opinion, make a U-TURN by relocating to the remote countryside where cell phones have hard time to connect. You ready to do this in this day and age?. So you can see why some of the shuyukh went to the bushes to do dhikr like Sheikh Nda solati (ra). But we have modern Alfa today criticized them. One Alfa said they went there to invoke Jinn and that there is no Sunnah record for this practice. They don't understand. In another word, it is not easy to get close to Allah in megacities. Too much fitan left and right.




It is not easy to come by a lot of these knowledge, and I sometimes feel sorry for the people who do nothing but bark because if one looks closely into thier lives, they did nothing but what is now termed as secular Islam.
How can the serious people go about thier journey without wandering aimlessly and blindly in this vast and endless ocean?
well, it is tedious efforts. The first thing is to humble oneself to Sheikh which many of us young people don't do anymore. We can see that clearly on this platform. They are ready to talk trash about a sheikh especially if he's Sufi.

Most of the Islamic knowledge on the internet today are usually base on external observation and devoid of spiritual essence. You would think there is no knowledge beyond external observation.

I would suggest to those brothers and sisters who were not opportuned to to grow up in such islamic environment to ensure their children acquire this knowledge if they can't. The world has changed which makes it difficult to return to this golden age. Modern Western Civilization wants to ensure they take religion out of our way of life and we are helping them with modern islamic ideology. So remote countryside and ability to humble and serve would be great way to go about this. Another problem is finding the right sheikh. It is so unfortunate that there are many shuyukh today who are waliy of shaytan. From them emerged the worse beneath the sky. But authentic ones are still around for sure. Even authentic ones would do crazy things to test you as Sheikh Hamza Yusuf and Sheikh Ninowy rightly said. Sheik Hamza Yusuf said you have to be humble enough to pass through that process.

I served under my Sheikh for 20yrs overall but 14 years of this was the real deal. Wallahi, nkan be in Islam. If you know you know. If you don't know you don't.

We got to the point where a man wanted to spend millions of dollars for my sheikh just to marry his girlfriend. It was crazy. I was actively involved in this back then. Had to use his own saliva to write ountu at some point. This is why my Sheikh respect me more bcuz others refused to do it. Whatever services you render your Sheikh will not be in vain. I remembered his saliva stank but I finished it. The man is the father of Akinuoye Agbaje who featured in American movie, The Mummy. He was a lawyer and berger secretary. He was just given money to us anyhow before and after his prayers were answered. Don't mind pastors. They have nothing. This Agbaje man was CHRISTIAN but finally humbled himself when my sheikh told him to keep his money if he could not come and present himself in person. He felt too big to come from Lagos. He would only send his driver to send message. When he was told to keep his money, he realized that this must be authentic Alfa. The man was freaking rich to the point that his girlfriend then stole #500m from him and he said he didn't mind as long as she married him but the woman didn't want that.

See how this old man go to any length bcuz of a woman?.
Re: ...... by Empiree: 2:46pm On Apr 15, 2019
aadoiza:
I hope it's possible to meet your sheikh in the future - If Allah wishes - because right now, ehn, I'mma broke-ass nigga.
grin grin
Re: ...... by aadoiza: 2:51pm On Apr 15, 2019
I have a question or two to ask our sheikhs here: Empiree, Ladunal, Lanrexlan, movado19, and other learned guys.

They say it's a great sign for he who is In the pangs of death to say: Lailaha illa lah as his last words before death overtakes him.
I heard of a guy, a friend of my brother's colleague. He's alfa and also OPC member, in fact, he was called alfa. This guy went to a battle along with some OPC members, including that colleague of my bro. Incase you don't know, OPC members do go to battles and wars. It could be factional, could be for the government; yes for the government. Some of them are trained militarily and go to war with our soldiers. This is no speculation but a fact. Some of those SSS guys you see guarding top politicians in this country are actually OPC members.
On the battlefield, this guy was shot and reportedly screamed out "Lailaha illa lah" and fell in the battle. (He wasn't even supposed to be killed with a gun.)

My questions go thus: Does it mean if anyone, be it Muslim or munafiq, is able to say Lailaha illa lah at the point of death, it's Jannah straight?
What if a true Muslim didn't say Lailaha illa lah but said his favourite adhkar or du'a as his/her last words, should that be seen a positive sign?
Please my brothers up to you.
Re: ...... by Empiree:
aadoiza:
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They say it's a great sign for he who is In the pangs of death to say: Lailaha illa lah as his last words before death overtakes him.
I heard of a guy, a friend of my brother's colleague. He's alfa and also OPC member, in fact, he was called alfa. This guy went to a battle along with some OPC members, including that colleague of my bro. Incase you don't know, OPC members do go to battles and wars. It could be factional, could be for the government; yes for the government. Some of them are trained militarily and go to war with our soldiers. This is no speculation but a fact. Some of those SSS guys you see guarding top politicians in this country are actually OPC members.
On the battlefield, this guy was shot and reportedly screamed out "Lailaha illa lah" and fell in the battle. (He wasn't even supposed to be killed with a gun.)

My questions go thus: Does it mean if anyone, be it Muslim or munafiq, is able to say Lailaha illa lah at the point of death, it's Jannah straight?
What if a true Muslim didn't say Lailaha illa lah but said his favourite adhkar or du'a as his/her last words, should that be seen a positive sign?
Please my brothers up to you.
Sheikh ke. Me no be sheikh ooo cheesy

Let me give my opinion on this but I can be wrong. OPC from what we know is their practices most likely are in conflict with Islamic Sharia. I mean their rituals not the essence. Essence is to protect whatever it is they protect. So being a member is implication on its own. We do not have details of Alfa in question.

My question is, is it possible to be a member and not practically involved with OPC ritual activities or swear allegiance to their deities that are not in harmony with Islam?. In my opinion, I believe it is possible unless if OPC policy says every member must perform these rituals regardless of their religion.

However if Alfa was just a nominal member but not involved in these rituals, it is possible he was pure muslim. The way I see it is that OPC is a group who sworn to protect lives and properties just like police force. But they are traditional. This means intention or essence is halal but activities may be haram and kufr if every members must perform kufr rituals.

I honestly do not know much about OPC beyond the name but I do know for sure that their activities lean on alawo stuff.

So if Alfa was just a nominal opc member for career only I don't see anything wrong here for as long as he was not involved in their kufr. Islam allows for all people living in the same nation regardless of religion to work together to ensure security and safety and development.

So for saying shahadah the last seconds of his life in this sense may avail him in the Hereafter. But if he was actively involved in their kufr and rituals that are in conflict with Islam, saying shahadah will not avail him one bit. However, La ilaha ila Allah is a very powerful phrase and a promise of Allah to aide whoever says the words.

But Quran teaches that when Pharaoh was drowing he declared his faith in Allah and became Muslim


And We took the Children of Israel across the sea, and Pharaoh and his soldiers pursued them in tyranny and enmity until, when drowning overtook him, he said, "I believe that there is no deity except that in whom the Children of Israel believe, and I am of the Muslims."


But Allah replied him (which only fir'aun could understand)


Now? And you had disobeyed [Him] before and were of the corrupters?


Now it gets interesting in the next Ayah to proof to us the power of La ilaha ila Allah

Allah respects the statement of shahadah and would not let it go in vain. Because of this it is La ilaha ila Allah that preserved Pharaoh's physical body not some chemical.


So today We will preserve your physical body that you may be sign to those who to come after you . And indeed, many among the people, of Our signs, are heedless sura 10


So Allah did not allow his pronunciation of shahadah to waste. He favored him by preserving his physical material body. This is the power of LA ILAHA ILA ALLAH.

So either of this is similar to condition of this Alfa. That's why it is difficult to pronounce a Muslim kafir if the person insist he's Muslim.

Although there was this story we were told that Pharaoh could not say shahada. He only said "laa" but Quran affirmed said he affirmed his faith but it was too late

Wallahu alam
Re: ...... by movado19: 4:07pm On Apr 15, 2019
aadoiza:
I have a question or two to ask our sheikhs here: Empiree, Ladunal, Lanrexlan, movado19, and other learned guys.

They say it's a great sign for he who is In the pangs of death to say: Lailaha illa lah as his last words before death overtakes him.
I heard of a guy, a friend of my brother's colleague. He's alfa and also OPC member, in fact, he was called alfa. This guy went to a battle along with some OPC members, including that colleague of my bro. Incase you don't know, OPC members do go to battles and wars. It could be factional, could be for the government; yes for the government. Some of them are trained militarily and go to war with our soldiers. This is no speculation but a fact. Some of those SSS guys you see guarding top politicians in this country are actually OPC members.
On the battlefield, this guy was shot and reportedly screamed out "Lailaha illa lah" and fell in the battle. (He wasn't even supposed to be killed with a gun.)

My questions go thus: Does it mean if anyone, be it Muslim or munafiq, is able to say Lailaha illa lah at the point of death, it's Jannah straight?
What if a true Muslim didn't say Lailaha illa lah but said his favourite adhkar or du'a as his/her last words, should that be seen a positive sign?
Please my brothers up to you.
The answer to your question may not be all that straight forward, but here is my angle:

(He wasn't even supposed to be killed with a gun.)
As per using dua for protection or using odeshi?

this guy was shot and reportedly screamed out "Lailaha illa lah" and fell in the battle.
Sometimes, the outer reality of someone is not the same as his/her inner reality. The way people may know someone is not the way Allah knows that person. Example, a poor man whom people regularly see at say the masjid but no one pays him any attention because he is not surrounded by the trappings of the world which would automatically make a lot of people accord his respect could very well be amongst the Wali's of Allah who are always in the company of Rasul in either his waking or sleeping state. Now, people around don't know this about him and if they were to be interviewed as to what they can say about him, they would never mention the fact that he is a wali or is always in the company of Rasul - this aspect of his reality is hidden. Only Allah and those he chooses to let know will be able to say that ah! this man is not an ordinary poor man oh! he is also a wali and so forth.
In essence, this OPC guy may have been doing something or some things pleasing to Allah that he kept hidden (between him and Allah) and he was later blessed with the attestation at the point of death. Allah knows best.

should that be seen a positive sign?
Yes, yes and yes!
Wallahi, saying the attestation at the point of death no be moi-moi!
There are some people who when they get to this stage do nothing but scream like animals, some just grunt and poop on themselves, some are busy singing lewd verses of songs, etc
Two years ago, a man very close to the family was hit with cancer and then stroke, so he couldn't talk or move his body the day the stroke hit him. But guess what? Later that evening on his dying bed, this same man raised his right index finger and kept reciting Laa Illahi Ilallah over and over again, Subhanallah!
Every time people around him will raise their voices in tears, he would quickly move his hand up and down over his heart area, as a way of telling everyone around not to cry and that it is okay and then resume reciting the Kalima!
The Christians around didn't know what was going on but we the Muslims were just watching film! This was someone who could not talk or move his limbs now doing all these! He kept reciting the kalima and passed away as the Rasul described, (the eyes always look on as the soul ascends, so do close the eyes of the dead at this stage).
We were opportuned to see him immediately after he was washed. My brother, happiness was written all over this man. He had a gentle happy smile, he looked like he was just taking a nap and not dead, his skin was so shiny, smooth and velvety, like a light was placed within it - I mean, he was just glowing, even the men who washed him were commenting on it and very happy for him!
My uncle (who was not with us) got a confirmation dream about his status in a dream that night, so I knew that what we saw was indeed real.

So, being able to recite the kalima na very, very big deal oh! It is an unquantifiable blessing from Allah and may we all be opportuned to recite it at the end of our journeys, Amin.
Re: ...... by movado19: 5:56pm On Apr 15, 2019
Empiree:
Sheikh ke. Me no be sheikh ooo cheesy


La ilaha ila Allah is a very powerful phrase and a promise of Allah to aide whoever says the words.

A binding promise, by His word.


Wallahu alam
Re: ...... by aadoiza: 1:06pm On Apr 16, 2019
movado19:
The answer to your question may not be all that straight forward, but here is my angle:

(He wasn't even supposed to be killed with a gun.)
As per using dua for protection or using odeshi?

this guy was shot and reportedly screamed out "Lailaha illa lah" and fell in the battle.
Sometimes, the outer reality of someone is not the same as his/her inner reality. The way people may know someone is not the way Allah knows that person. Example, a poor man whom people regularly see at say the masjid but no one pays him any attention because he is not surrounded by the trappings of the world which would automatically make a lot of people accord his respect could very well be amongst the Wali's of Allah who are always in the company of Rasul in either his waking or sleeping state. Now, people around don't know this about him and if they were to be interviewed as to what they can say about him, they would never mention the fact that he is a wali or is always in the company of Rasul - this aspect of his reality is hidden. Only Allah and those he chooses to let know will be able to say that ah! this man is not an ordinary poor man oh! he is also a wali and so forth.
In essence, this OPC guy may have been doing something or some things pleasing to Allah that he kept hidden (between him and Allah) and he was later blessed with the attestation at the point of death. Allah knows best.

should that be seen a positive sign?
Yes, yes and yes!
Wallahi, saying the attestation at the point of death no be moi-moi!
There are some people who when they get to this stage do nothing but scream like animals, some just grunt and poop on themselves, some are busy singing lewd verses of songs, etc
Two years ago, a man very close to the family was hit with cancer and then stroke, so he couldn't talk or move his body the day the stroke hit him. But guess what? Later that evening on his dying bed, this same man raised his right index finger and kept reciting Laa Illahi Ilallah over and over again, Subhanallah!
Every time people around him will raise their voices in tears, he would quickly move his hand up and down over his heart area, as a way of telling everyone around not to cry and that it is okay and then resume reciting the Kalima!
The Christians around didn't know what was going on but we the Muslims were just watching film! This was someone who could not talk or move his limbs now doing all these! He kept reciting the kalima and passed away as the Rasul described, (the eyes always look on as the soul ascends, so do close the eyes of the dead at this stage).
We were opportuned to see him immediately after he was washed. My brother, happiness was written all over this man. He had a gentle happy smile, he looked like he was just taking a nap and not dead, his skin was so shiny, smooth and velvety, like a light was placed within it - I mean, he was just glowing, even the men who washed him were commenting on it and very happy for him!
My uncle (who was not with us) got a confirmation dream about his status in a dream that night, so I knew that what we saw was indeed real.

So, being able to recite the kalima na very, very big deal oh! It is an unquantifiable blessing from Allah and may we all be opportuned to recite it at the end of our journeys, Amin.
Wow. This is actually more loaded than I thought. Thanks
What about the second part : a Muslim says his favourite adhkar or du'a but not La ilaha illa lah as his last words?

Modified
He wasn't supposed to die because of too much odeshi
Re: ...... by aadoiza: 1:14pm On Apr 16, 2019
Empiree:
Sheikh ke. Me no be sheikh ooo cheesy

Let me give my opinion on this but I can be wrong. OPC from what we know is their practices most likely are in conflict with Islamic Sharia. I mean their rituals not the essence. Essence is to protect whatever it is they protect. So being a member is implication on its own. We do not have details of Alfa in question.

My question is, is it possible to be a member and not practically involved with OPC ritual activities or swear allegiance to their deities that are not in harmony with Islam?. In my opinion, I believe it is possible unless if OPC policy says every member must perform these rituals regardless of their religion.

However if Alfa was just a nominal member but not involved in these rituals, it is possible he was pure muslim. The way I see it is that OPC is a group who sworn to protect lives and properties just like police force. But they are traditional. This means intention or essence is halal but activities may be haram and kufr if every members must perform kufr rituals.

I honestly do not know much about OPC beyond the name but I do know for sure that their activities lean on alawo stuff.

So if Alfa was just a nominal opc member for career only I don't see anything wrong here for as long as he was not involved in their kufr. Islam allows for all people living in the same nation regardless of religion to work together to ensure security and safety and development.

So for saying shahadah the last seconds of his life in this sense may avail him in the Hereafter. But if he was actively involved in their kufr and rituals that are in conflict with Islam, saying shahadah will not avail him one bit. However, La ilaha ila Allah is a very powerful phrase and a promise of Allah to aide whoever says the words.

But Quran teaches that when Pharaoh was drowing he declared his faith in Allah and became Muslim


And We took the Children of Israel across the sea, and Pharaoh and his soldiers pursued them in tyranny and enmity until, when drowning overtook him, he said, "I believe that there is no deity except that in whom the Children of Israel believe, and I am of the Muslims."


But Allah replied him (which only fir'aun could understand)


Now? And you had disobeyed [Him] before and were of the corrupters?


Now it gets interesting in the next Ayah to proof to us the power of La ilaha ila Allah

Allah respects the statement of shahadah and would not let it go in vain. Because of this it is La ilaha ila Allah that preserved Pharaoh's physical body not some chemical.


So today We will preserve your physical body that you may be sign to those who to come after you . And indeed, many among the people, of Our signs, are heedless sura 10


So Allah did not allow his pronunciation of shahadah to waste. He favored him by preserving his physical material body. This is the power of LA ILAHA ILA ALLAH.

So either of this is similar to condition of this Alfa. That's why it is difficult to pronounce a Muslim kafir if the person insist he's Muslim.

Although there was this story we were told that Pharaoh could not say shahada. He only said "laa" but Quran affirmed said he affirmed his faith but it was too late

Wallahu alam
I like your humility.
This is a wonderful angle to look at it from.
Please what about the second question: a Muslim says his favourite adhkar or du'a but not La ilaha illa lah as his last words, should that be seen as a positive sign?
Re: ...... by movado19: 1:59pm On Apr 16, 2019
[quote author=aadoiza post=77588960]Wow. This is actually more loaded than I thought. Thanks
What about the second part : a Muslim says his favourite adhkar or du'a but not La ilaha illa lah as his last words? [/quote

Sorry about that, It skipped my attention.
As for one saying thier favourite adhkar or dua but not the Kalimah, then my take is this;
1. Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. on his last breathe was reported to have said "Oh Allah, with the highest companions" - Muslim; 2444 & Bukhari;4463. Allah knows best.
According to this site:
https://www.ummah.com/forum/forum/islam/general-islamic-topics/188153-most-beautifull-last-words-of-the-last-prophet-hazrat-muhammad-pbuh

Rasul Allah uttered these words:


"With those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace with the Prophets and the Truthful ones (As-Siddeeqeen), the martyrs and the good doers. O Allâh, forgive me and have mercy upon me and join me to the Companionship on high." [ibid 2/638-641] Then at intervals he uttered these words: "The most exalted Companionship on high. To Allâh we turn and to Him we turn back for help and last abode."

Allah knows best.


According to this same website, another version of his last words were:

His lips vibrated as if he wanted to say something, Ali took his ear close to Rasulullah.
'Uushiikum bis shalati, wa maa malakat aimanuku - take care of the saalat and take care the weak people among you.'
Outside the room, there were cries shouted each other, sahabah held each other. Fatimah closed her face with her hands and, again, Ali
took his ear close to Rasulullah's mouth which became bluish. 'Ummatii, ummatii, ummatii?' - 'My people, my people, my people.' And the life of the noble man ended.

And Allah knows best.

What I'm trying to point out here is that to the best of my knowledge, there was no recording of him saying only the Kalima and then passing away.
Some people pass away in sujood, ruk'u, while reading the Qur'an, giving da'wah, reciting zikr and so one.
Others keep repeating a particular verse and then pass away.
A sheikh narrated his experience with someone he went to visit in a hospital and when he encouraged the person to utter the Kalima, the person said who should I listen to? You or the one who stands before me and and is saying:
Qur'an 89: 27-30
Subhanallah!
I read this particular incident online years back.

What I can say is that those whom Allah look on with mercy, He will enable them to say or do actions that are pleasing to Him as they take their last breath. InshaAllah.
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