alBHAGDADI:


The Islamic faith claims to believe in Yahshua whom they also say they love, but they strongly protest against any believe that says he is the Son of God cos they believe God has no wife for him to even have a son. In doing this they weaken God, cos why would anyone believe that a God who created heaven and earth and made Adam from dust would still lack the power to have a son without a wife? Well, that's not the point of this discuss.

Their Quran scriptures, which they say is directly from God, speaks of the miraculous conception of Yahshua. Pls read below.

Quran

She said: “How can I have a son when no man has touched me, neither have I been unchaste?” (19.20)

He said: “Thus Your Lord has said: ‘It is easy for Me. And so that We may make of him a sign for people and a mercy from Us, and it is a matter that has been ordained.’” (19.21)

From the above Quran passage, we can see that Christ was not a product of a sperm from a man. His conception was divine. Now, be patient a little as I go into brief science. It is an established fact that a man's sperm is what fertilizes a woman's egg to form a baby. That sperm develops and has its own BLOOD, provided by the father, which means that it doesn't get blood from its mother, only oxygen and nutrition.

In the case of Yahshua, who was not a product of a man's sperm fertilizing an egg, as established by the Holy Bible and the Quran, we all have the right to ask where his blood came from. If his conception was a miracle by God, as confirmed by the Bible and Quran, then it means that his blood must have come from the same God. If God is the provider of that blood, then it means that Yahshua the Messiah is the Son of the Almighty God. This also means that he didn't inherit any of the contaminated blood of sinful Adam. This is a huge reason why his blood is precious and redemptive, redeeming mankind from sin and death.

So, before Muslims go about telling us that Christ is not the son of God, they should tell us how he got his blood since they also believe he was conceived without sexual intercourse or a man's sperm involved.

obafemee80:


If the claim is made that `Jesus is Allah’s(GOD)son because he was created without a father, then the same claim befits Adam even more because Allah created Adam without a Father or mother.

@ OP,why are you cherry-picking the facts that favours you from the GLORIOUS QURAN
Pls add dis

“The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: “Be.” And he was.” (3:59)

obafemee80:

"Such was Jesus, the son of Mary; it is a statement of truth, about which they vainly dispute. It is not befitting to the majesty of God, that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He determines a matter, He only says to it, ‘Be' and it is" (Quran 19:34-35)

obafemee80:

"People of the Book (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, and attribute to God nothing except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only a Messenger of God, and His command that He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him.

So believe in God and in His Messengers, and do not say: ‘God is a Trinity.' Give up this assertion; it would be better for you. God is indeed just One God. Far be it from His glory that He should have a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth. God is sufficient for a guardian" (Quran 4:171).

obafemee80:

There are other creations of ALLAH like Jesus Christ of Nazareth

Adam has no father and mother.Allah created him with His own hands and breathed His holy spirit into Adam.
Awa(eve),has a father(Adam) and no mother

alBHAGDADI:

Adam was created out of dust, christ wasn't. Adam's whole composition came from dust, his blood, bones, hair, flesh etc all came from dust. Christ was a word spoken from God Himself, not God molding him with dust as He didst Adam. Adam's creation is no different from the creation of other animals whom God created out of dust. The only difference is that God created him in His own image. Can you now say that the first set of animals that God created without mother nor father are also worthy to be called the son of God?

Adam was created perfect but he lost his perfection when he sinned. He lost his status when he conceded to Satan. That's why God had to send Yahshua as a perfect Adam to got through all the test Adam failed. This HE did by ensuring that a human sperm wasn't involved so that His Messiah wont inherit any of the contaminated blood of Adam's offspring which would have made him sin.


This doesn't answer the question. The question here is Where did christ's blood come from? At least, we now that adam's blood came from dust. Since christ didnt come from dust, then how did he get his blood?

On one hand, your quran says God only uses statements to make things be. On the other hand, it cant agree that the same powerful God, who uses simple statements to make things be, cant use the same power to make himself have a son without having a wife.

See what the bible says about anyone that denies God and His Son Yahshua.

1 John 2:22

And who is a liar? Anyone who says that Jesus is not the Christ. Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is an antichrist.

This is why islam is an antichrist religion. No wonder muslims are ordered by the quran to kill christians. That is why christians are heavily persecuted in the islamic world. Islam is the beast and allah's name is the mark of the beast. Christians are waking up to that reality now. Muslims, like satan, know that they have but a short time. That's why the rate of terrorism has increased.
Likewise all the animals that God created in the garden of eden. They all had no mother nor father. Like Adam, they were created from the dust. The only difference is that Adam was created in God's image. So, neither Adam nor the animals can be fit for the title of the Son of GOD.

obafemee80:


Where do you expect Jesus to get his blood from?
May be i should remind you that he has a mother and that he was also breastfed?
Pls next story

alBHAGDADI:
Did you pass through school at all?

Mothers don't pass blood to the fetus when pregnant, they only pass oxygen and nutrient to the unborn baby. The baby's blood is gotten from the sperm's make up, that's why the father that produced the sperm can only be the paternal father of the child. Since both the Bible and the Quran agree that there was no sperm in the conception of Christ, then it means that wherever Christ came from is where his blood came from. The Bible and the Quran both agree that his conception was miraculously done by God. Shouldn't that mean that his blood came from God? If agreed, then it means he is God's son.

M17CXi:


If
Were did Adam get his own blood? Oga

Were does blood originally come from?

Why are you not also calling your self God(son)

Do you really think you know God?

alBHAGDADI:
Did you pass through school at all?

Mothers don't pass blood to the fetus when pregnant, they only pass oxygen and nutrient to the unborn baby. The baby's blood is gotten from the sperm's make up, that's why the father that produced the sperm can only be the paternal father of the child. Since both the Bible and the Quran agree that there was no sperm in the conception of Christ, then it means that wherever Christ came from is where his blood came from. The Bible and the Quran both agree that his conception was miraculously done by God. Shouldn't that mean that his blood came from God? If agreed, then it means he is God's son.

InsanePsycho:
Op, calm down

Jesus never existed

The story of Jesus was made up like the story of Spiderman

obafemee80:

I don't want to believe you r dis dumb
You mean the God (a Spirit)that created Heaven & Earth has blood flowing through his vein...

obafemee80:


If the claim is made that `Jesus is Allah’s(GOD)son because he was created without a father, then the same claim befits Adam even more because Allah created Adam without a Father or mother.

@ OP,why are you cherry-picking the facts that favours you from the GLORIOUS QURAN
Pls add dis

“The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: “Be.” And he was.” (3:59)

"Such was Jesus, the son of Mary; it is a statement of truth, about which they vainly dispute. It is not befitting to the majesty of God, that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He determines a matter, He only says to it, ‘Be' and it is" (Quran 19:34-35)

"People of the Book (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, and attribute to God nothing except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only a Messenger of God, and His command that He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in God and in His Messengers, and do not say: ‘God is a Trinity.' Give up this assertion; it would be better for you. God is indeed just One God. Far be it from His glory that He should have a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth. God is sufficient for a guardian" (Quran 4:171).

There are other creations of ALLAH like Jesus Christ of Nazareth

Adam has no father and mother.Allah created him with His own hands and breathed His holy spirit into Adam.
Awa(eve),has a father(Adam) and no mother

alBHAGDADI:
That's where you are getting it wrong. When God made man, he made use of dust, an earthly thing. When Christ was conceived, he was conceived from God Himself. Everything about him came from God. This doesn't mean God has blood. But since Christ's blood didn't come from man, then it means it came from God. The bible said God's word is what became flesh, meaning God spoke the word that became flesh, blood and bones, unlike when He used dust to create Adam and Eve

JOHN 1:14

The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth..

1 John 4:3

but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.


What Christ was like on earth (the flesh, bones and blood) is what God would be if He came in human form. This doesnt mean that God the spirit has blood. But since He was sending His son to earth as a human, the son had to have blood.

Mr muslim, Where did the blood come from?

alBHAGDADI:
Where are the muslim brothers?

Princewell2012:



You have made a very good point, infact i have learnt a lots from you. Am a Chtistian but have to disagree with you to an extent in some of ur objections.

1 The blood of Adam does not come from the dust. The bible also called Adam a perfect man.

And God breath into a lifeless body and this lifeless body became a living soul. And this living soul was called Adam. 2 A dust does not have blood.

The genesis of blood is beyond human understanding or comprehenssion

in Ezekiel or somewhere says the life of any living is in its blood. Therefore all blood came from God

But the only problem was that the blood of Adam was contaminated because of sin.

The bible also called Adam the son of God.


Are you on whasapp lets do some bible study. I love to learn from you too. Cheers.

alBHAGDADI:
Blood came from dust. God breathed life into that dust and it became a living thing. No verse says that God put blood in the dust.

You need to know that blood carries oxygen. If you stop breathing, you will die cos there wont be oxygen in the blood to be carried to other parts of the body. Likewise, if your blood is taken out, no matter how much you breathe, you will die in a short period cos there wont be blood to recieve and transport that oxygen. Google up

The verse you quoted is not ezekiel but...

Leviticus 17:11

For the life of a creature is in the blood,

It says the life of a creature is IN THE BLOOD. This doesn't mean the blood is the actual life. It carries the life as explained above.

alBHAGDADI:


The Islamic faith claims to believe in Yahshua whom they also say they love, but they strongly protest against any believe that says he is the Son of God cos they believe God has no wife for him to even have a son. In doing this they weaken God, cos why would anyone believe that a God who created heaven and earth and made Adam from dust would still lack the power to have a son without a wife? Well, that's not the point of this discuss.

Their Quran scriptures, which they say is directly from God, speaks of the miraculous conception of Yahshua. Pls read below.

Quran

She said: “How can I have a son when no man has touched me, neither have I been unchaste?” (19.20)

He said: “Thus Your Lord has said: ‘It is easy for Me. And so that We may make of him a sign for people and a mercy from Us, and it is a matter that has been ordained.’” (19.21)

From the above Quran passage, we can see that Christ was not a product of a sperm from a man. His conception was divine. Now, be patient a little as I go into brief science. It is an established fact that a man's sperm is what fertilizes a woman's egg to form a baby. That sperm develops and has its own BLOOD, provided by the father, which means that it doesn't get blood from its mother, only oxygen and nutrition.

In the case of Yahshua, who was not a product of a man's sperm fertilizing an egg, as established by the Holy Bible and the Quran, we all have the right to ask where his blood came from. If his conception was a miracle by God, as confirmed by the Bible and Quran, then it means that his blood must have come from the same God. If God is the provider of that blood, then it means that Yahshua the Messiah is the Son of the Almighty God. This also means that he didn't inherit any of the contaminated blood of sinful Adam. This is a huge reason why his blood is precious and redemptive, redeeming mankind from sin and death.

So, before Muslims go about telling us that Christ is not the son of God, they should tell us how he got his blood since they also believe he was conceived without sexual intercourse or a man's sperm involved.

Lalasticlala
Now this is worthy of Front Page

FriendChoice:
I laugh in Spanish. So Adam peace be upon him was fertilized from sperm and Egg. So as his wife Hauwa peace be upon her. God dash this mumu sense.

alBHAGDADI:
Pls, where in the OP did i make a statement close to the gibberish you wrote up there?

FriendChoice:


You said Jesus is not from sperm that fertilize egg. That's what make him god. Is that?

Was Adam made from sperm that fertilize an egg? No.
Jesus come from the womb of a woman while Adam was made by God himself.

Adam should be a greater god not the god that die crying on the cross.

FriendChoice:



* Where did your own blood come from? It come from God. Mine also was from God. Even a cow blood is from God. Can human create blood?

* Your foolish argument is: Jesus blood is some part of God blood. is that?

* Who tell you God is a man that has flesh, blood and bones. God is spirit and must be worship in spirit says your Bible. With this you have prove to me He is not God since he has blood just like me.

* Again where is Adam blood from, since sperm change to blood. Adam (pbum) was not from sperm, where did his blood come from? if Jesus is god because his blood was not from sperm then Adam too should be God.

* You agreed you're from sperm and Adam was not, and both of you are Human despite different method of your creation.

* You also believe Adam has no father nor a mother and you have all. and both of you are human.

* What's hard then to believe Jesus is a man like you. He has no father but mother and you have both the two.

alBHAGDADI:


Adam was made from dust. Christ had to come through a woman so as not to drop from the sky. Still yet, it happened through a virgin woman, a thing that has never happened before and will never happen. As for Adam, he is not greater than Christ cos him being made by God is no different from animals who were also made from dust and by God. So, the one made from dust is lesser.

Before Adam was, Christ was.

FriendChoice:



So your thread is invalid. Jesus wasn't made from sperm so as Adam peace be upon them all.


Jesus had a mother while Adam is mortherless and fatherless.


Thus that doesn't differentiate them. They are all men with bone and flesh. Even the Bible agrees.

malvisguy212:
you muslims always give a very weak defence. You muslims alaways use adam as example, which is very wrong. Adam was the first man,as the first man, he could not have had a earthly parents, Such an act of creation was necessary at the beginning of the world of mankind. Someone had to be created first. But in the case of Jesus, he was born without a human father when God’s natural process of procreation had long been in EXISTENCE. Did the quran give reason for this ? Here we see God interrupting the course of nature, and overriding the very laws of procreation that he had himself
established, in order that Christ might
thus have a virgin-birth. Why?

alBHAGDADI:
Adam was made from dust. Christ was a miracle by God who overrode his established way of doing things so as to produce a messiah.
The question is Where did Christ's BLOOD come from? Answer and stop dribbling.