Sure very rampant in nigeria, there is one currently happening around where i stay, a young girl of about 17 years, this woman brought her to lagos and promised to pay her slary, she stoped her from going to school, refused to pay her the agreed salary, make her work almost round the clock, as she is into mama put kind of business, the girl tried running away when the suffering became too much, but luck ran out on her after three days and they caught up with her and brought her back to continue in her suffering, though they promised to let her go this xmas , this young girl kept coming to me at every slightest opportunity she have complaining about her ordeal, i dont know what she expect me to do. am afraid to intrude in issues that concern me not, I hope they let her go this xmas as they have promised her

0hsisi:

See people opening their mouths like some of their mother's didn't keep housegirls aka slaves in their own homes
It is common knowledge that these domestic servants alledge all sorts of things including sexual assault.Let them have their day in court and if found guilty, let the law take it's course and let it be a warning to others.
You can't import that Naija house girl  wickedness into America or you will pay.
I know a woman here who brought her relative to care for her kids,all her own kids went to college but this poor girl never did.
She braids hair for a living.
what a tragedy
A girl who came here as a teenager and the only thing she benefitted from in this place is speaking Americana
I wanna gonna

The girl is almost becoming an old maid,in her late 30's,unmarried,no proper education
Which man wants a liability in their home.
The girl is also very pinchomic, her bosoms and hips are non existent.
I don't even know if she's more than 4 feet,God knows if they fed her.
People are wicked.

They just exported the house maid tradition to the US is all. Happens in Nigeria like its a norm. Undecided Undecided

tdmoggy:

In defence of the Nigeria house boy/girl arrangement.

In Nigeria, housemaids and house boys are not locked up or denied access to the out side world.
Additionally, their passports and/or travel documents (if any) are not withheld.

They tend to be paid / or their people paid (based on what ever arrangement was put in place and agreed upon prior to commencement of the house boying service).

Does this mean abuses do not occur? of course not; but it is absurd to tar every one with the same brush. My parents were responsible for training our maid up to university level. To us kids growing up however, she was an auntie, and still is regarded as such up on till today. She is a very successful lady today laregely thanks to my parents, who also brought us up to respect her and see her as an aunt and not just a maid. This system does work if one takes out the abuse, and child labor/exploitation.

tdm

So, by your house girl turning out perfect, made slavery right then, eh Therefore, all poor and people in need requiring support from us, should try it, first! How, cruel you are How, I wish I could hear the experiences of the enslaved in particular, that of your auntie, you are talking about here. I'm sure, there's a book in her that is, a best seller. 

If only human beings would treat each other the same without differentiating then, there wouldn't be 'Slavery'. God frowns on Slavery you know hence, his deliverance of the people of Israel from bondage in Egypt.  Obviously, the Egyptian slave masters, enjoyed the services as well as the maltreatments they dished out on the Israelites hence the reluctance to accord them their freedoms. The same principle applies in every slave and master relationship situation as Genesis Chpts. 29 to 31 testifies what Laban, Jacob's uncle put him through before he could gain his freedom. Therefore, this act of Slavery is not a very nice thing people! And those who advocate it should please, walk a mile in a slave's shoe then, they will know!

But why would anyone enslave another if not for lack of humanity in themselves? That 'Good Samaritan act', and that 'love thy Neighbour as yourself thing' obviously does not register. As a result, I ask those who love to enslave others, if you can afford to enslave them or buy their services with your wealth, why can't you afford to show mercy and humanity at least, by being 'charitable' in their times of need? 

No, it's all about benefit/gain, what's in it for me? After all, what would I gain from helping them?  They are not my family some would say? Again, I ask what happens to humanity? What happens to helping someone you don't know without asking for rewards?   

This is because, Nigerians love this servant and Master thing - boy, boy thing! Yes, they love to be respected, adored, honoured and worshipped hence their love for titles - Oga, oga, Madam, madam, Sir, sir, Alhaji, Alhaja, Chief this and that etc as a way of distinguishing themselves from riff-raff in society thus, all the signs and elements of bondage in our society and on our own people.

As we all know, a head cutter does not like his own head cut, does he? Obviously, when a master/madam doesn't know what it is to be a servant or slave, wouldn't they think it's their God given right to trash others? To that I suggest, they put themselves through the experience then, they would know what it is like and how to treat/respect others, no matter how small and poor.  Maybe, this concept of boy, boy - an exploitation of the poor, so rampant in our society will begin to disappear. Maybe, when everyone become as successful as the auntie above then,  people would learn to clean their own dirts without waiting for a slave.

tdmoggy:

In defence of the Nigeria house boy/girl arrangement.

In Nigeria, housemaids and house boys are not locked up or denied access to the out side world.
Additionally, their passports and/or travel documents (if any) are not withheld.

They tend to be paid / or their people paid (based on what ever arrangement was put in place and agreed upon prior to commencement of the house boying service).

Does this mean abuses do not occur? of course not; but it is absurd to tar every one with the same brush. My parents were responsible for training our maid up to university level. To us kids growing up however, she was an auntie, and still is regarded as such up on till today. She is a very successful lady today laregely thanks to my parents, who also brought us up to respect her and see her as an aunt and not just a maid. This system does work if one takes out the abuse, and child labor/exploitation.

tdm

tdmoggy:

your resonse, lacks an understanding of my context. re-read my posting

I don't need to re-read your essay.  The mere thought of negotiating for someone's child to come and live with you in your own household and serve you/family, is disgusting!  Since this concept of boy, boy thing is so marvellous, why didn't your parents send you off some where to serve.  Maybe, you'd be here now writing about your own sad experiences. 

YOU SEE, I DON'T BUY THAT IDEA OF EXPLOITING THE POOR BY PRETENDING TO HELP THEM.

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HELP, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO, DON'T YOU  YOU WOULD NOT ASK FOR ANY REWARDS WHATSOEVER AND CERTAINLY, NOT THEIR CHILDREN COMING TO LIVE WITH YOU AS A RESULT, AS THIS GIVES RISE TO ABUSIVE AND CRUEL SITUATIONS WE ARE ALL HERE, READING ABOUT.   

Because of poverty, I don't blame people for their wicked/cruel attitudes towards others as that's why, people find it so difficult to help others.  Also, the problems we have in Africa are not only poverty oriented/linked but also, grandiosity - our need to be recognised/worshipped. Because, we have money and know we have the ability/access to most things in life, we tend to show our wealth in many negative and oppressive ways thus, the evil.

Theblessed:



[b] I don't need to re-read your essay. The mere thought of negotiating for someone's child to come and live with you in your own household and serve you/family, is disgusting! Since this concept of boy, boy thing is so marvellous, why didn't your parents send you off some where to serve. Maybe, you'd be here now writing about your own sad experiences.

YOU SEE, I DON'T BUY THAT IDEA OF EXPLOITING THE POOR BY PRETENDING TO HELP THEM.

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HELP, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO, DON'T YOU YOU WOULD NOT ASK FOR ANY REWARDS WHATSOEVER AND CERTAINLY, NOT THEIR CHILDREN COMING TO LIVE WITH YOU AS A RESULT, AS THIS GIVES RISE TO ABUSIVE AND CRUEL SITUATIONS WE ARE ALL HERE, READING ABOUT.

Because of poverty, I don't blame people for their wicked/cruel attitudes towards others as that's why, people find it so difficult to help others. Also, the problems we have in Africa are not only poverty oriented/linked but also, grandiosity - our need to be recognised/worshipped. Because, we have money and know we have the ability/access to most things in life, we tend to show our wealth in many negative and oppressive ways thus, the evil.[/b]

Theblessed:



[b] I don't need to re-read your essay. The mere thought of negotiating for someone's child to come and live with you in your own household and serve you/family, is disgusting! Since this concept of boy, boy thing is so marvellous, why didn't your parents send you off some where to serve. Maybe, you'd be here now writing about your own sad experiences.

YOU SEE, I DON'T BUY THAT IDEA OF EXPLOITING THE POOR BY PRETENDING TO HELP THEM.

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HELP, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO, DON'T YOU YOU WOULD NOT ASK FOR ANY REWARDS WHATSOEVER AND CERTAINLY, NOT THEIR CHILDREN COMING TO LIVE WITH YOU AS A RESULT, AS THIS GIVES RISE TO ABUSIVE AND CRUEL SITUATIONS WE ARE ALL HERE, READING ABOUT.

Because of poverty, I don't blame people for their wicked/cruel attitudes towards others as that's why, people find it so difficult to help others. Also, the problems we have in Africa are not only poverty oriented/linked but also, grandiosity - our need to be recognised/worshipped. Because, we have money and know we have the ability/access to most things in life, we tend to show our wealth in many negative and oppressive ways thus, the evil.[/b]

Hercules75:

The couple, who have been charged with conspiracy, forced labor, document servitude, alien harboring and false statements. Someone with ALL this charges, wat do u EXPECT?

chaircover:

What TheBlessed is saying is that one doesn’t have to have to expect something back in return before doing something good for someone less privileged than us.

People seem to be justifying the reward of sending them to school in return for people leaving their own families to work as house helps in another person’s family. Most of the time, the sad thing is that these house helps are only kids themselves.

I have heard the Nigerian vs Western world argument for house helps; larger houses to maintain, more dusty, traffic jams so more difficulty in getting to the market, longer working hours etc but there are some Nigerian families who don’t have house helps & still manage to cope.

chaircover:

What TheBlessed is saying is that one doesn’t have to have to expect something back in return before doing something good for someone less privileged than us.

People seem to be justifying the reward of sending them to school in return for people leaving their own families to work as house helps in another person’s family. Most of the time, the sad thing is that these house helps are only kids themselves.

I have heard the Nigerian vs Western world argument for house helps; larger houses to maintain, more dusty, traffic jams so more difficulty in getting to the market, longer working hours etc but there are some Nigerian families who don’t have house helps & still manage to cope.