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Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by AlMuflihah(f): 6:24pm On Mar 09, 2017
fratermathy:


Even at Ilorin? Chai! Most rankings generally favour Unilorin though.

It is well with Nigeria. We have a long way to go.
Seriously brother it is pathetic, but is there anything we can do or a way to get NUC attention to the shameful state of things?
Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by Originakalokalo(m): 6:25pm On Mar 09, 2017
PG fut Minna is on point.
Especially mechanical engineering.

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Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by Nobody: 6:28pm On Mar 09, 2017
fratermathy:


No public university charges more than 300k for PG programmes with the average being 150k. Even at that, some schools break down this amount into semester-by-semester payments with the average per semester being 50k.

CU and other private universities charge much higher. However, their pay is worth it in the final run because students graduate as and when due and the lecturers are very helpful. The only downside to private universities' PG education is the bias and misconception that the degrees were bought rather than worked for.
Oh ok! Thanks. Someone must have fed me with wrong info. About the misconception I believe it would change when products of this priv unis start doing well in Industry. But for now I can only recommend CU, Babcock and ABUAD.

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Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by sekeyso(m): 6:30pm On Mar 09, 2017
I think UNN should be on that list...can you imagine pg students are not allowed to know their results after exams, and worst still a particularly department have a case of missing result after one student had already convocated with the said missing result. Its really terrible here in UNN especially in sociology department.
Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by AmbodOfLASU: 6:30pm On Mar 09, 2017
GlorifiedTunde:
Do not say what you don't know Oga!

Olabisi Onabanjo just graduated hundreds of PG students out of which are over 40 PhDs.

The school currently has the 5th fastest academic calendar in Nigeria and it is the current best state university in Nigeria.

Since the new VC got in over four years ago, there has been no strike of any kind except the just concluded "national" warning strike by SSANU, NASU and JAT.


Get your facts right!


False. Check the latest NUC ranking for the best State University in Nigeria.

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Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by fratermathy(m): 6:32pm On Mar 09, 2017
AlMuflihah:

Seriously brother it is pathetic, but is there anything we can do or a way to get NUC attention to the shameful state of things?

To be honest NUC is not meeting up to expectations in regulating PG studies in Nigeria. I do hope that they see this post to know how bad things are. We can also start a petition to draw their attention to the plight of PG students in the country.

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Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by Smart38: 6:32pm On Mar 09, 2017
No mind them...they are APC people, they have counted south and north leaving east behind
kometpuvo:
The author skipped Nnamdi Azikiwe University, Awka.

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Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by Ageco(m): 6:37pm On Mar 09, 2017
For me, unical greatest problem is corruption.

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Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by Nobody: 6:39pm On Mar 09, 2017
This article is spot on regarding the first institution mentioned. I'm running a PG program in OAU at the moment. It is not a piece of cake.

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Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by phantomBBT: 6:47pm On Mar 09, 2017
You. Are. Right with OAU!! Did masters between Jan. 2011 to may 2014! They are hell of a Bleep!! Useless skool grin grin

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Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by itsmayiela(m): 6:55pm On Mar 09, 2017
OP, Benue State University should be top on the list. Imagine graduating from PG school in 2007 and original certificate is still not ready in 2017.

So annoying....

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Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by GlorifiedTunde(m): 6:55pm On Mar 09, 2017
AmbodOfLASU:



False. Check the latest NUC ranking for the best State University in Nigeria.

What has NUC ranking got to so with this? You really wanna bank ob NUC reports?

Then go get the analysis of accreditation of OOU and other state universities.

Or help yourself by googling it
Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by obstead200(m): 6:58pm On Mar 09, 2017
Statsocial:

I know it isn't. I am simply saying that if it is too hard to carryout ur MSc in Public unis then seek out the private ones after all they are all equally expensive at PG level.
u are still not making sense.
U derailed the thread, simple.
Stop trying to justify ur ignorance
Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by GlorifiedTunde(m): 6:58pm On Mar 09, 2017
fratermathy:


Don't say things based on sentiments Oga.

Undergraduate programmes are topnotch in almost every school I mentioned. You don't need to have strikes, or a fast undergraduate academic calendar for students to be delayed and stressed.

Again, more than 40 students graduating does not mean the programme is fast. Each of the 40 students may have spent an average of 10 years before that graduation.

Are you a PG student there? If you are, share your experience.

This is not sentiments bro. At least I am privy to the information in the school. Even though I'm a U.I alumni.

Please show me your evidences. It is very sensitive labelling an institution wrongly please.
Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by Duru009(m): 7:00pm On Mar 09, 2017
Unibest..... aka. UNIBEN
Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by sakbio(m): 7:07pm On Mar 09, 2017
This is a good write up especially the so called Oba Awon University, a lot of unnecessary thing such as filling and correction of form A-K, I ave bn asking question dt I neva gotten any answer, what is relevance of those forms to the award of msc or PhD rather than frustrating students, imagine only form A, u can use up to 3 months.
The duration of master program in Oau, why 4 semesters when universities made their 3 and the lecturers wil intentionally extend it to 6 semesters, or advice to obtain another form. I pray they shud change, OAU need to emulate Premier university and Unilorin. Apart from all these, OAU is the best university for post graduate program, friendly sch fees payment, infrastructure, good library etc







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Many Nigerian graduates are rushing to get postgraduate education nowadays mostly due to the lack of jobs. It is believed that a Masters degree will better the chances of getting a good job. A few others undertake PG programmes in order to enter into the academic path as it is known that the minimum requirement for employment into many tertiary institutions in the country is a Masters degree. Because of this, many Nigerian universities have witnessed a surge in the number of applicants for PG programmes. Youths are rushing to various schools for PG programmes and it becomes necessary to inform the students of what they are to expect in the various schools in the country. I have already covered the list of best universities for PG programmes in Nigeria before. I think it is right to inform prospective PG students of the schools to be "cautious" of if they want to graduate on time. Not everyone can go to the "ivy-league" institutions for PG study in Nigeria due to various factors.

I am not trying to spoil the reputation of any school here because, as we all know, many of these schools have internal issues and policy issues that affect the students. So if your school or alma mater is mentioned, don't take it the wrong way but try to evaluate the cause so that suggestions can be made to make things better. In compiling this list, I considered a few factors such as duration of study and graduation, infrastructure, library resources, staff-student ratio, among others. I relied heavily on personal research and opinions. I also interviewed with some persons studying in these schools in order to get their experiences. I have also been to some of the universities on my list at a point or another before now. The aim of compiling this list is basically to draw attention to the issues that they have so that the universities can seat up and make the plight of students better. We should also proffer working solutions to the problems identified in this list. I can't take all the universities since there are so many with issues so I focused more on regional varsities with many applicants. Below is the list:

1. Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife, Osun State
This school was established in 1961 as a regional university for the South West of Nigeria. It is considered by many as one of the best universities in the country for undergraduate studies. This first generation university has a wide variety of alumni members and has played important roles in training some of Nigeria's academic, scientists, writers, and aristocrats. However, its postgraduate programme is quite the opposite of what obtains at the undergraduate level. Let us look at some of the issues this university faces:

i. Incessant strike actions by staff and students: The university is regarded as the centre of "aluta" in Nigeria. Staff and students know their rights and don't hesitate to close down the entire school to assert it. At its worst, there are more than 3 strikes a year and whenever they occur, students go home and any form of research halts. This extends the duration of the programme from 18 months to at least 24 months in the best case scenario and 36+ in the worst.

ii. Self-centred nature of staff: The staff of this university are quite antagonistic towards students. Most take pride in the school's notoriety for delaying and stressing students. Many can't help students in basic things and even supervisors are not concerned with the student's academic progress.

iii. Lack of uniformity by the PG school: In OAU, every department runs its PG programmes however and whenever it sees fit. The PG school only "advises" but never "implements" strict uniformity. This has created situations where some departments are faster than some. Any school where departments are allowed to run programmes however they like usually face delays in PG programmes.

iv. Too many bureaucracies: The PG school has too many protocols for registration, thesis/dissertation writing, defence, graduation, etc. These protocols can take months to accomplish sometimes.

There are many other reasons why the PG programme in OAU is bad but the above are the major ones. If the school can implement a strict adherence to PG calendar by the departments, simplify many of their bureaucracies, monitor staff activities, among others, the PG programme will move faster. The facilities are there and the school has a fairly good library. If every other thing falls in place, OAU will be a school to reckon with in terms of PG programmes in Nigeria.

2. University of Calabar, Cross River State
UNICAL, as it is fondly called, is one of the second generation universities in Nigeria that was established in 1975. Some students have had terrible experiences with this university in terms of PG education. The university has a good academic culture, a wide array of alumni members and fairly manageable infrastructure. It is a go-to university for undergraduate education. However, they have not gotten it right in terms of PG education and below are some of the reasons why:

i. UNICAL allows departments too much flexibility: In UNICAL, every department works independently of the other and does so however it sees. There are no strict policies in place to make sure the departments are running the programmes in line with the PG school's dictates. With this level of flexibility and individuality, many departments unbearably delay students beyond their graduation deadlines.

ii. Corruption: This is one university where academic corruption has eaten deep into its marrows. There are many reports of PG students being extorted by the staff of the university. Extortion starts upon registration till result collection. In fact, UNICAL is for those with a fat pocket as you will have to pay for everything from the day you pick the form and the day you write the aptitude test to the day you gain admission and graduate. If you don't come with a fat pocket, be prepared to linger in the system for a long time.

iii. Nonchalance of staff: The members of staff in this university have a very bad attitude to work, save a few. Lecturers may not come and teach as and when due. Supervisors may never read student's submissions or even be available for discussions. Non-academic staff are not left out. They are hardly accessible for registrations, explanation, etc.

From the above, we can see why UNICAL is lagging behind in terms of speed and other indices of a standard PG programme. The university management has to immediately scrutinise the system and get to the root of the problem before it becomes worse than it already is.

3. Ahmadu Bello University, Zaria, Kaduna State
This is the premier university in Northern Nigeria. Many of the educated elites in Nigeria's north, and even south, are alumni members of this school. It is widely recognised as one of the most beautiful and spacious schools in Nigeria. However, it is plagued with many issues that affect the timely graduation of students. These issues include:

i. Intolerant Staff: This university has certain staff members that are plain bigots, tribalists and fanatics. They only see members of their ethnic group, religion and beliefs. If you are from the other side of the divide, you may face difficulties interacting with lecturers, your supervisor and even non-academic staff.

ii. Too many bureaucracies: Many of the students in this university complain that the system is hard and there are too many protocols. Unlike other universities, ABU has too many protocols that students have to go through in order to finish their programmes.

ABU has all it takes to be at the forefront of PG education in Nigeria. It just has to treat some of the issues that border on intolerance and bureaucracies.

4. University of Portharcourt, Rivers State
UNIPORT is a second generation Nigerian university that was established in 1975. It has produced some of the intellectuals and elites in Nigeria's Niger Delta region. However, it is plagued with various issues at the PG level and these include:

i. No uniformity of PG programmes: In this school, like many others on this list, the departments do not follow a general academic calendar for PG programmes. Each department is free to do whatever it likes and this has affected the duration of programmes badly. There are some departments where students from 2 academic sessions earlier are not done with course work even though new students are waiting to start theirs.

ii. Lack of research infrastructure: UNIPORT is an old school and many of the infrastructure available to students for research are already old and mostly unusable. The library is not constantly furnished with new books, laboratories are in a mess, and the learning environment is not encouraging. Do not expect the best if you intend running a programme in UNIPORT.

iii. Corruption: Given the status of Port Harcourt as an oil city, this should come as no surprise to all. UNIPORT's staff members love money and will not hesitate to actively go after it even if it means extorting students. Many students have to pay their way through the programme before they eventually graduate.

iv. Nonchalance of staff: The staff members are not after student's welfare but theirs alone. Supervisors and course lecturers are lazy to the bones and contribute to the delay of students.

UNIPORT has many other problems but the above are the major ones. The school's management needs to step up its game and create a conducive environment for postgraduate research.

5. University of Abuja
The University of Abuja is a third generation Nigerian university which is located in Nigeria's capital city of Abuja. It is fairly okay for undergraduate degree programmes but has much to overcome if it is to take a lead in PG education in Nigeria. Many Abujalites prefer going to Nassarawa for PG education than UNIABUJA. Below are some of the issues it faces:

i. Lack of uniformity: Again, like the other schools, every department operates their PG programmes independently and the PG school does not enforce strict adherence to its calendar. Because of this, departments with lazy staff tend to delay students unnecessarily.

ii. Lazy staff: Many of the staff of UNIABUJA are unnecessarily lazy and not interested in work. They generally do not like students and treat them most as disturbances than students. Because of this, supervisors hardly graduate students on time as there are no deadlines for such.

iii. Exploitation of students: Given the fact that Abuja is Nigeria's capital, with a lot of politicians and their wards going to UNIABUJA, the general idea is that money flows in this school. The staff are always quick to remind students of that through some of their exploitative tendencies.

iv. Lack of infrastructure: The university is still undergoing development and because of that, students do not have access to research infrastructure needed to complete their programmes.

If the above issues can be addressed by the management of UNIABUJA, things will surely get better. UNIABUJA is strategically located in the heart of Nigeria and has the burden to serve as Nigeria's archetype of standard education save for the issues affecting its PG programmes.


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Apart from the top 5 schools in the list, there are also some other schools to watch out for in terms of quality PG programmes and duration of study. Like the top 5, these schools have issues that border on corruption, non-uniformity of calendar, nonchalance of staff, etc. They include:

6. Olabisi Onabanjo University, Ago-Iwoye, Ogun State
7. Ladoke Akintola University of Technology, Ogbomosho, Oyo State
8. University of Maiduguri, Borno State
9. Benue State University, Makurdi
10. University of Jos, Plateau State


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From the above, it is obvious that many regional and "big" schools have a long way to go in standardising their PG programmes to world standard. The common issues that they face border on the inability of schools to fix and enforce a uniform academic calendar for PG programmes, the lackadaisical attitude of staff to work, lack of work ethics, lack of research infrastructure, and more. Many Nigerian schools do have access to online databases such as Ebscohost, Questia, ProQuest, etc; online and physical interlibrary loans; standard ICT systems; theses, dissertations, journal articles and book online repositories, among others. These are things that make PG programmes to run smoothly for the student. It is also to be noted that some forms of delays are caused by students who do not take their work serious. However, if the system is working well, unserious students will be sifted out with ease.

Let us simply hope and pray that Nigerian universities standardise their PG programmes and make it less frustrating for students. For those intending to go to the listed schools or those already there, do not lose hope. Do what you can and wish for the best. Some of you can even be the ones to start the change by writing to the Deans of the PG schools about your plight so that they can address them and make the system run smoothly.

- Iroro Orhero <literarymathy[at]gmail.com>

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Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by fratermathy(m): 7:12pm On Mar 09, 2017
Smart38:
No mind them...they are APC people, they have counted south and north leaving east behind


grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by ozolity(m): 7:12pm On Mar 09, 2017
UNN Still d best.
Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by Draxler: 7:13pm On Mar 09, 2017
fratermathy:


No public university charges more than 300k for PG programmes with the average being 150k. Even at that, some schools break down this amount into semester-by-semester payments with the average per semester being 50k.

CU and other private universities charge much higher. However, their pay is worth it in the final run because students graduate as and when due and the lecturers are very helpful. The only downside to private universities' PG education is the bias and misconception that the degrees were bought rather than worked for.
Trust me I'm doing my postgraduate programme in a public uni. Yes the fee is 150 but the other excuses they'll use to take your money plus the accommodation puts it on par with private universities in terms of fees.

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Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by heskeyw(m): 7:18pm On Mar 09, 2017
kometpuvo:
The author skipped Nnamdi Azikiwe University, Awka.
God bless u bro. Unizik na the baba for delay
Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by fratermathy(m): 7:23pm On Mar 09, 2017
GlorifiedTunde:


This is not sentiments bro. At least I am privy to the information in the school. Even though I'm a U.I alumni.

Please show me your evidences. It is very sensitive labelling an institution wrongly please.

1. OOU produces no more than 150 PG graduates every convocation yet admits no less than 1000 every session. What happens to the surplus?

2. All departments do not write PG exams at the same time and do not submit dissertations/theses or do defences at the same time. This shows that there is no order and strict adherence to PG calendar.

3. Many of the lecturers in the school have their PG degrees elsewhere, as obvious from their staff profiles. Why is it so?

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Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by ArcFresky(m): 7:25pm On Mar 09, 2017
FUTA, best school... My pg school follow calendar to the letter.

Collect your certificate 2 wks after convocation..

Zero delays.

Brilliant teachers.

Love the school..

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Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by Nobody: 7:26pm On Mar 09, 2017
fratermathy:
What do you all think of the list? Have I missed any school you know or have I included any school I ought not to have?

Kindly drop your comments so that we can discuss. If you have a different ranking, do well to tell us. This is a product of my personal research and views, anyone else's may be different so be sensitive in your comments.




You didn't add FUTO. you can do MSC there for 6years and still be struggling and begging to be released.

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Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by Richy4(m): 7:27pm On Mar 09, 2017
10 years doing masters degree? You guys are scaring the living day light out of me...Where in the world does that happen? shocked

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Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by GlorifiedTunde(m): 7:32pm On Mar 09, 2017
fratermathy:


1. OOU produces no more than 150 PG graduates every convocation yet admits no less than 1000 every session. What happens to the surplus?

2. All departments do not write PG exams at the same time and do not submit dissertations/theses or do defences at the same time. This shows that there is no order and strict adherence to PG calendar.

3. Many of the lecturers in the school have their PG degrees elsewhere, as obvious from their staff profiles. Why is it so?

1 is absolutely untrue. I don't know where you got that from
2 is correct, but presently within a space of two years there has been more uniformity
3 Very very true. And this is because a couple of years back OOU was nothing to write home about. But as at present, most of the non academic and a better number of academics are doing their postgraduate degree there.

Mind you, I should also say that it is almost generic that people who work within a system, especially academics, prefer they do their PhDs outside the academic environment they work in.
Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by fratermathy(m): 7:36pm On Mar 09, 2017
Richy4:
10 years doing masters degree? You guys are scaring the living day light out of me...Where in the world does that happen? shocked

It happens in Nigeria but that is worst case scenario. The average duration for the terrible schools is 4-5years.
Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by HRHQueenPhil(f): 7:37pm On Mar 09, 2017
fratermathy:


This is not an appraisal list. Kindly take your time to read through.

Once I get 2milion, I wil go to CU stay 18months. finish and carry my certificate

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Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by AmbodOfLASU: 7:38pm On Mar 09, 2017
GlorifiedTunde:


What has NUC ranking got to so with this? You really wanna bank ob NUC reports?

Then go get the analysis of accreditation of OOU and other state universities.

Or help yourself by googling it


LASU is the best state university in Nigeria - check all the rankings. More courses (Aeronautics, one of the best college of medicine and law, Dentistry, School of Transport). Stronger Alumni base etc.
Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by fratermathy(m): 7:41pm On Mar 09, 2017
GlorifiedTunde:


1 is absolutely untrue. I don't know where you got that from
2 is correct, but presently within a space of two years there has been more uniformity
3 Very very true. And this is because a couple of years back OOU was nothing to write home about. But as at present, most of the non academic and a better number of academics are doing their postgraduate degree there.

Mind you, I should also say that it is almost generic that people who work within a system, especially academics, prefer they do their PhDs outside the academic environment they work in.

1. Check the statistics of the last 5 convocations for each set. It's online. Just Google.

What I can concede to is that things may be getting better (assuming). However I have colleagues from the school that are supposed to have graduated last year but are still stuck due to bureaucracy.
Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by GlorifiedTunde(m): 7:50pm On Mar 09, 2017
fratermathy:


1. Check the statistics of the last 5 convocations for each set. It's online. Just Google.

What I can concede to is that things may be getting better (assuming). However I have colleagues from the school that are supposed to have graduated last year but are still stuck due to bureaucracy .

PGD?
Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by mercylicious234: 7:51pm On Mar 09, 2017
kometpuvo:
The author skipped Nnamdi Azikiwe University, Awka.

This school should be no 1 on this list.
I have never seen anybody that concluded postgraduate studies in nau. All dropped half way, no matter how bright they were.
Re: Top 5 Universities With Terrible Postgraduate Programmes by gaetano: 7:51pm On Mar 09, 2017
As for me, I've done a thorough research and if I'm gonna do my masters in Nigeria it's has to be in either UNILAG or UNN.

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