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Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by paulGrundy(m): 7:50am On Mar 19, 2017
Putin’s Russia has something of a history when it comes to harassing, intimidating and threatening to ban my former religion: Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Many are the reports of literature confiscated, of meetings disrupted and of incriminating literature planted by uniformed rent-a-thugs with the aim of framing the Witnesses as enemies of the state.

The latest news is that Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia are making a last ditch attempt to persuade the Kremlin to relent from any moves to shut down their organization. Vasily Kalin, described by the press as the “leader” of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia, has reportedly appealed to the country’s human rights council to this effect.

Masked Russian police spill out of vans to invade a kingdom hall in Nezlobnaya

 

At this point I should probably make it clear that though I have a great deal of compassion and affection for Jehovah’s Witnesses as individuals, I am not a fan of the religious hierarchy that leads them – not by any stretch.

Readers of this website will be only too familiar with my disgust at Watchtower’s heinous policy of shunning, which serves to needlessly break up families – including mine. Neither do I need to spell out my contempt for the deadly prohibition on blood transfusions, nor the systemic covering up of child rape.

With all that said, I want Jehovah’s Witnesses who may stumble on this website to be aware that I wholeheartedly support them in repudiating any attempts to ban their religious activities. If they were to arrange a protest against the Russian government tomorrow (since they are apolitical, this is unlikely) I would stand at their side and serve them hot coffees.

Why? Because even though I no longer believe that an invisible Jesus swooped down and chose Joseph Rutherford and his colleagues to be the inaugural “faithful and discreet slave” in 1919, I am a firm believer in human rights. And make no mistake: the human rights of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia are being trampled.

According to article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, as adopted by the General Assembly of the United Nations (believed by Witnesses to be the wild beast of Revelation!) in 1948, all homo sapiens have been guaranteed as follows:

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

An inconsistent approach to human rights

In a sad irony, despite repeatedly appealing to the above entitlement when defending their own religious freedoms (i.e. conscientious objection, freedom to preach without restriction), the leadership of Jehovah’s Witnesses are quite happy to flagrantly violate this article when it suits them. For example, my wife and I are among countless ex-members who are being continually punished by means of shunning for our decision to walk away from our religion.

On a day-to-day basis, punishment is visited on us by a religion we no longer believe in because our JW family members are coerced into avoiding all contact lest they too are deemed evildoers destined for fiery destruction at Armageddon. One of the many disturbing side effects of this open denial of our right to “change [our] religion or belief” is that our daughter, Jessica, has yet to meet her grandfather – my father – who, as an elder, feels he must put loyalty to the “faithful slave” ahead of his paternal instincts.

Despite the infuriating hypocrisy of the Jehovah’s Witness approach to human rights, I refuse to count myself among some of the more embittered ex-Witnesses who believe JWs deserve to be similarly deprived of their human rights by thugs like Vladimir Putin.

I cannot, in good conscience, complain about my freedoms being violated while insisting that a group of people in Russia – whom I have never personally met and can only assume are decent, honest people – be stripped of those same freedoms. To behave so cynically and vindictively would make me just as hypocritical as the religious leaders I protest against.

Accusations of extremism

That is not to say that Russia is entirely wrong in labelling Jehovah’s Witnesses “extremists.” When most people think of religious extremism, they think of the Islamist terrorist who ignites himself on a crowded bus, or the black-masked barbarian who beheads journalists and aid workers in the name of Allah – but you don’t need to be violent in order for your views to be extreme.

Is it extreme to dismantle a family because one or two of its members no longer believe your dogma? I would argue, yes.

Is it extreme to expect someone to die rather than accept a routine medical treatment that you consider an abomination on religious grounds? Yes, is the answer.

Is it extreme to cover-up child rape because you are not satisfied there are enough people who can attest to the abuse? Most definitely.

Make no mistake – Jehovah’s Witnesses are extremists. It’s just that most people don’t know they are extreme because the unfathomable body count from the blood prohibition is unknown, and most people don’t have to personally deal with the gruesome reality of having their family needlessly dismantled, or seeing their molestation as a child swept under the rug.

So, with all that said, how should a democratic society approach an abusive religion that extolls and imposes extremist teachings and policies? There are three possible routes to take. Allow me to spell them out for you so that you can decide which one sounds most reasonable…

1. Support the abusive religion

In this approach, a government would indirectly promote and support an abusive religion by making it tax exempt, so that the movement can rake in donations unfettered by the normal financial constraints under which non-religious businesses and organizations operate.

A position of “hear no evil, see no evil” can be maintained, in which the abusive religion does not need to be transparent, is accountable to no one, and the leaders can get on with their cultish business without any checks or balances when they inevitably stray into visiting harm on people.

An especially supportive government might even extend charitable status to the abusive religion, imbuing it with the same kudos and respect as organizations like the Red Cross and Médecins Sans Frontières. In this way, the abusive religion can project pain and suffering on members and non-members alike while benefiting from the public perception that its work is “charitable.” It can also rake in extra money through incentives such as “Gift Aid,” whereby the government effectively supplements all donations received.

2. Ban the abusive religion

If you’re not feeling quite so generous, you might consider flat-out banning the abusive religion altogether.

Under a ban, members of the religion would not be able to meet together. They would not be able to print their literature. They would not be able to practice their faith if this involves preaching or proselytizing.

Members of the banned religion would get to feel vindicated that theirs is the one and only true faith because, especially in Christianity, persecution by the authorities has always been considered somewhat a badge of honor that is worn with great pride.

In addition to fuelling the religion’s pre-existing persecution complex and lust for isolationism, a total ban has the knock-on effect of bringing your country into violation of human rights per article 18.

But, meh! If you’re a ruthless dictator who thinks nothing of annexing sovereign states, blowing up passenger airplanes, hacking the elections of other countries and assassinating rogue agents with fatal doses of radiation as they convalesce in their London hospital beds, who gives a [insert Russian swear word] about human rights? Right?

3. Hold the abusive religion accountable

If the above two options are not to your taste, there is a third option that involves neither supporting the abusive religion, nor banning it.

You can simply hold it accountable.

You can allow yourself the epiphany that there is no good reason for ANY religion to be tax exempt. They are all, at their very essence, businesses. Their products are a giddying array of competing, conflicting brands of religious faith that, like cigarettes, fake jewellery, pet snakes and garden gnomes, are non-essential to human existence.

If you happen to crave the product, you get to donate to your church, mosque or synagogue, which must be allowed to flourish or flounder depending on how you and your brethren decide to support it. But your donations should be taxable because, bottom line, you may feel you need this product in your life but many, many others don’t.


Faith is a product, needed by some but not all; therefore churches are businesses and should be taxed accordingly

 

The upside to the “accountable approach” (apart from the fact that it just makes total sense!) is that no government who adopts it would end up inadvertently making itself the benefactor of any abusive religion. It goes without saying that the same would be true if governments (such as the government of my own country of birth, the UK) stopped extending charitable status to abusive religions.

If a religion wants to set up a charity that ONLY does good for non-members with no strings attached and no attempts to evangelize (or sell) their product to a captive, vulnerable audience, this could be deemed a tax-exempt charity – but only so long as there is full transparency and everyone is absolutely sure that no charitable donations can trickle their way into the religious arm of the organization.

Once you have buttressed your country against any involvement in supporting abusive religions, you can then start to think about proactively policing them and making it hard or impossible for them to inflict harm. And you can do this without any need to start throwing around bans.

You could, for example, criminally prosecute organizations found to cover up child abuse. You could also make it illegal for a religion that forbids certain medical procedures to send representatives to surround a believer’s hospital bed with the aim of coercing them when their life is in the balance. You could make it impossible, through legislation, for any kind of scenario in which a child dies from being deprived of certain medical procedures simply because this appeases the delusions of its parents.


JW elders should be prevented by law from ambushing believers in hospital to make sure they are willing to die rather than accept blood

 

For all the other detritus associated with abusive religions such as Jehovah’s Witnesses, such as religious books and magazines urging shunning and dissuading young people from pursuing higher education, you at least have the satisfaction of knowing that your tax dollars are not indirectly subsidising such backward propaganda.

If you want to be really progressive, you can take action to offset some of the harm caused by dangerous elements of the religion by funding resources for would-be apostates (such as safe houses and community support) thereby making it easier for them to leave. Another way of taking positive action is to implement critical thinking as part of the syllabus for all school children so that they can understand how abusive religions operate and how to insulate themselves against brainwashing tactics.

Do all of the above, set your watch, and see how quickly abusive religions wither and die. They are already operating in an asphyxiated environment in which, thanks to the internet, it is harder than ever for them to thrive. The last thing they are clinging to, their final crutch, is the undue deference lavished on them by governments bewitched by a legacy and tradition of religious reverence. It is this last pillar that needs to be removed – not the religions themselves.

Banning religions, however abusive, achieves nothing. But dragging them into their proper place by holding them accountable to the law and basic values of democracy and humanity would be a game changer.

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/wrong-ban-jehovahs-witnesses

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by UncleSnr(m): 7:55am On Mar 19, 2017
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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by daamazing(m): 8:19am On Mar 19, 2017
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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by UncleSnr(m): 9:05am On Mar 19, 2017
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To delete you.

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Meeloreh(f): 9:43am On Mar 19, 2017
It's too long abeg. Summary pls

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Bashirfuntua(m): 9:43am On Mar 19, 2017
I have nothing to say
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by buffalowings: 9:45am On Mar 19, 2017
Putin you Don hear
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by buoye1(m): 9:46am On Mar 19, 2017
Acanor read dis loooong epistle biko


Summary please

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by drinkgarri: 9:46am On Mar 19, 2017
OK.. Let
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by doingood: 9:47am On Mar 19, 2017
Why would u ban any religion. Every body with his or her believe

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by drinkgarri: 9:47am On Mar 19, 2017
Meeloreh:
It's too long abeg. Summary pls
Mental laziness

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Lukenitheooo6(m): 9:47am On Mar 19, 2017
Those people can disturb for Africa
when they come to my lounge when i see them knocking i
pretend to be sleeping for them to go before they turn me to an atheist

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Nobody: 9:48am On Mar 19, 2017
Those creatures are sickos. No more, no less.
It ain't no different from Eckankar, Rosicrucian and their likes.

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Teedawg: 9:48am On Mar 19, 2017
am I the only one who just scrolled down to comments? grin that poo to long!!

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Kingspin(m): 9:48am On Mar 19, 2017
Anytime any day, I prefer Jehovah witnesses than the so called religion of peace but members are sucide bombers and volunteer murderers. Mr Putin sir, the good people of the world needs you to crush ISIS jihad people only.

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by xynerise(m): 9:48am On Mar 19, 2017
The blood transfusion thing is why I don't like them

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Handsomecole(m): 9:49am On Mar 19, 2017
This is too loooooonggg!!! Wetin happen nau. Well I have mixed feelings about the JW's one aspect Is that they don't want to accept or even hear your own view of the religion or bible they just want you to hear them out most especially when they come visiting.

Also, most of they so called Awake magazines usually in fact 80% of the articles criticize the Catholic Church and they tell lies and black mail the church by twisting the history of most of the doctrines of the Catholic Church, a church which existed decades before their own, which to me is totally bad, it's the more reason I don't even listen to them when they come to preach to me, I just bring out my rosary when they see it they flee.

But they are friendly people and they like to drink well, most of them also have bad characters too. But above all they are peaceful people.

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Afokesco(m): 9:50am On Mar 19, 2017
Knock!! Who's there? Jehovah jehovah who? Jehovah witness

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by helinues: 9:50am On Mar 19, 2017
for what now
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by ManTiger(m): 9:50am On Mar 19, 2017
Hmmmm...
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Meeloreh(f): 9:50am On Mar 19, 2017
drinkgarri:

Mental laziness
that is mutual. I'm not here to read a journal. Summary oga

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by loomer: 9:51am On Mar 19, 2017
If all those negative things u mentioned dey associated with the organization, why u dey complain say dem dey ban dem?

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Evaberry(f): 9:51am On Mar 19, 2017
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This is rubbish

what about open atheists in Nigeria that are suffering and being shun by their families

when people don't even like to associate with them


why are atheists scared to come out to their families

abegi op go and fight for atheists right 1st before u come here to spew crap.

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Martins301(m): 9:51am On Mar 19, 2017
Incoherent write up. At one point you hate JW at another you love them. You need to get your sh!t together and take a stand.

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by veekid(m): 9:52am On Mar 19, 2017
Lol, ban them for kinni

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Martins301(m): 9:53am On Mar 19, 2017
doingood:
Why would u ban any religion. Every body with his or her believe

Then don't complain against Islamic extremists cos it is their belief as well

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by jaymejate(m): 9:54am On Mar 19, 2017
In short, most countries with powerful leaders do so much against human right.
And this attack is always on religion, Christian actually.

If they protest, i pray it doesn't result into catastrophe. God bless who love God!

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by elsmartEcash: 9:54am On Mar 19, 2017
i don read everything

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by bentwain: 9:55am On Mar 19, 2017
#IstandWithJehovahWithness

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by rottennaija(m): 9:56am On Mar 19, 2017
loomer:
If all those negative things u mentioned dey associated with the organization, why u dey complain say dem dey ban dem?

The reason is that they will use that to claim to be the one religion persecuted, ignoring that others are facing same situation. They will use that at every opportunity they have to claim to be serving God

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by coolsegun2002: 9:57am On Mar 19, 2017
They should change their doctrine on receiving blood to save life.. this as made many members rather die than received blood of another.
A jW father can't even donate blood to his own son or daughter...which kind parole be that one

Why won't the government of a country be angry at them...

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by dohyn(m): 9:58am On Mar 19, 2017
My main grouse with Jehovah's witnesses is this blood transfusion issue..I work with patients that have Chronic Kidney Disease and they usually require blood transfusion due to the nature of the disease.
When a new patient comes and I see the person is a JW,I know his/her time on this earth is not long again.I've seen at least 5 patients die due to refusal to take blood. Last one was one fine 23 yr lady. Both she and her husband adamantly refused blood. She died on the dialysis machine.
The only one that I know survived was because the husband loved her more than their religion. She was unconscious on the machine,we told him her only saving grace was blood. He thought long and hard and agreed. He however said we shouldn't put the blood transfusion sticker in her case note and throughout the process,no family member came to see her on the machine.
Till today,even the woman does not know she had blood..thinks her faith made her whole.

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