[b]BRO i can't fit lie you, this is one thing i can never wish my ENEMY... The Heart Pain is just too bad... Sometimes when i read about the story of Abraham in the Bible i just can't help but not blame his actions for bulging to his wife request to get a child outta desperation, but wow! i admire his Long suffering; Even the stories of Rebecca and Hannah in the bible is thought provoking as they had to endure the pains of having to deal with their close rivals.

However one thing i have learnt in this life and would never let go is in Ecclesiastes chapter 3 of the Holy Book. I have these words for you Sir - Never loose hope in God, Forsake Your High Consumption of Alcohol if possible quit, Love your Wife like never before, Shawn every negative thoughts that are prone to bringing negative energy and finally Live your Life to the fullest by doing what would make you and wife proud.

please if you have time do go through this link https://www./time-come-respect-your-zone-rajan-arya

MAY GOD IN HIS INFINITE MERCY HEARKEN TO YOUR HEART DESIRE! AMEN [/b]

God will bless you and yours with beautiful and healthy kids. They will come in torrent soon...

Please while being prayerful, try the IVF...the risk is worth it when it's successful. Good luck.

MummyIMadeIt:
[b]BRO i can't fit lie you, this is one thing i can never wish my ENEMY... The Heart Pain is just too bad... Sometimes when i read about the story of Abraham in the Bible i just can't help but not blame his actions for bulging to his wife request to get a child outta desperation, but wow! i admire his Long suffering; Even the stories of Rebecca and Hannah in the bible is thought provoking as they had to endure the pains of having to deal with their close rivals.

However one thing i have learnt in this life and would never let go is in Ecclesiastes chapter 3 of the Holy Book. I have these words for you Sir - Never loose hope in God, Forsake Your High Consumption of Alcohol if possible quit, Love your Wife like never before, Shawn every negative thoughts that are prone to bringing negative energy and finally Live your Life to the fullest by doing what would make you and wife proud.

please if you have time do go through this link https://www./time-come-respect-your-zone-rajan-arya

MAY GOD IN HIS INFINITE MERCY HEARKEN TO YOUR HEART DESIRE! AMEN [/b]

Amen.You understand.

Eyah... all I can say is the God who remembered Hannah will remember you and your wife.

ItsQuinn:
Too bad for him! I don't give a f*ck

May God forgive and have mercy on you for you don't know what you are doing

bonjovi12:
Got married in 2011.No children.
Doctors have diagonised medical issues with me.Wifey has got some issues too but we have had them sorted.
There are spiritual issues on wifey father's side.We have been praying.We have sowed seeds.We both love kids.We don't envy anyone but bless them when they have their kids.
Have seen almost all my friends,church members and family all have kids.Some of them got married after us but are on to their second, third issue.
Just heard that the wife of one of my guys that acted up during his marriage is preggies.Almost couple i know has kids.
Have done procedures except IVF until a couple of years back.Spent money.
We decided to use money to do other things and just trust God to come through.
I'm not a saint.I.try for God.Bless people and do service.
Prayers have revealed we would have kids.We have both had dreams about having our kids.
Today I'm just down. Depressed. Wish I had enough dough so i can risk doing enough IVF to give us our children but worried about squandering my lil savings and not get desired results.
I need help.Pastors have ripped us off.Most of them wanted or wants something in return.
Just pray God can just do it and now too.
Wifey was not handling it well before till she signed out.Now is she just trying to live her life.
Its getting to me.I am a correct Guy that people admire and some envy cos I have got some other things going on for me.
I want above every thing else to be a father.Can't stand the stigma. I need help.Is there anyone out there who can help?
Real,genuine individual prolly been in this before and knows and understands how it feels and overcame.
I don't know.Just sad but cos I have a relationship with God no matter how ffed it is sometimes cos of my sins,I am still hopeful.

Depression and worries wont solve a thing-it will only delay your getting pregnant. Somehow,being depressed is a subtle way of letting God know that you do not belief in him....get your act together,cheer up and be happy,run some tests to at least be sure that there is/are no medical issues to clear, adopt a healthy diet(keto if possible) and exercise,speak to your womb every morning and after copulation, most importantly,PRAY!

bonjovi12:
Got married in 2011.No children.
Doctors have diagonised medical issues with me.Wifey h
Have done procedures except IVF until a couple of years back.Spent money.
We decided to use money to do other things and just trust God to come through.
I'm not a saint.I.try for God.Bless people and do service.
Prayers have revealed we would have kids.We have both had dreams about having our kids.
Today I'm just down. Depressed. Wish I had enough dough so i can risk doing enough IVF to give us our children but worried about squandering my lil savings and not get desired results.
I need help.Pastors have ripped us off.Most of them wanted or wants something in return.
Just pray God can just do it and now too.
es cos of my sins,I am still hopeful.

I feel your pain. My suggestion is fight for what you want. Don't give up. Try another IVF in a place with greater and verifiable claims to higher success rates. Don't just go to a 'cheap' one. If you can afford it travel abroad. Google IVF centers with most successful rates. Heard of a center in Spain with really high success. If that fails, try surrogacy. The "corrections"(surgery I believe) that you both did may not have been successful. The path to success could mean you both need to go through further tests in a well equipped hospital to find out why the first IVF failed. Before you try another. Its important. Get an expert opinion of your chances through IVF. If possible get a second and even a third. If the opinions you gather show that your chances maybe slim then don't waste money, go for surrogacy. Let the one among you lacking more reproductively be replaced by a surrogate. Doctors would know best according to your situation. Option 3, Adopt a child both of you can love, care for and devote yourselves to, if not for anything to shift your depression away and have a little angel to look up to while you still wait. Years later it could still happen naturally, you know. Don't give up. And count the blessings God has blessed you with. Don't dwell too much on what you don't have for now.

sisisioge:
God will bless you and yours with beautiful and healthy kids. They will come in torrent soon...

Please while being prayerful, try the IVF...the risk is worth it when it's successful. Good luck.

Amen.Thank you.Will do that.

Schwartz:

I feel your pain. My suggestion is fight for what you want. Don't give up. Try another IVF in a place with greater and verifiable claims to higher success rates. Don't just go to a 'cheap' one. If you can afford it travel abroad. Google IVF centers with most successful rates. Heard of a center in Spain with really high success. If that fails, try surrogacy. The "corrections"(surgery I believe) that you both did may not have been successful. The path to success could mean you both need to go through further tests in a well equipped hospital to find out why the first IVF failed. Before you try another. Its important. Get an expert opinion of your chances through IVF. If possible get a second and even a third. If the opinions you gather show that your chances maybe slim then don't waste money, go for surrogacy. Let the one among you lacking more reproductively be replaced by a surrogate. Doctors would know best according to your situation. Option 3, Adopt a child both of you can love, care for and devote yourselves to, if not for anything to shift your depression away and have a little angel to look up to while you still wait. Years later it could still happen naturally, you know. Don't give up. And count the blessings God has blessed you with. Don't dwell too much on what you don't have for now.

Hmmmn
Good talk.Will do.Thanks

Amen!

Ishilove:

May God forgive and have mercy on you for you don't know what you are doing

Op,you said you don't want to spend your little savings on IVF and not grt results...right?

How would you know if you don't try.

My oga would say 'aga ata ego n'onu?'
(we can't eat paper money as food)

please I advise you work hand in hand with an IVF specialist.

My best friend has being trying for 11 years.,as I type this,she is 5 months gone with triplets.

IVF!!!
Don't forget to share you testimony with us ooo!!!

Before you go for any IVF, I want to introduce you Matt 6 : 33
I want you to give God this month of April to prove His word in your life. Don't pray for yourself, nor your family. Take an hour or two a day and pray for the advancement of the kingdom of God, pray for the unsaved souls, pray for the barren in your church etc. In just this month god will surprise you. I'm not joking bro, it works! It has worked for me in my difficult moments.
You can visit any winners Chapel closer to you ask for kingdom advancement prayer bulletins. Try it and in one month your wife will conceive if you believe.

I am waiting to hear your testimony by the end of this month. Your can drop me your full so I can put you in my daily prayers.
God bless you.

YOUR CASE MUST BE DIFFERENT THIS MONTH

Emaimo:
Before you go for any IVF, I want to introduce you Matt 6 : 33
I want you to give God this month of April to prove His word in your life. Don't pray for yourself, nor your family. Take an hour or two a day and pray for the advancement of the kingdom of God, pray for the unsaved souls, pray for the barren in your church etc. In just this month god will surprise you. I'm not joking bro, it works! It has worked for me in my difficult moments.
You can visit any winners Chapel closer to you ask for kingdom advancement prayer bulletins. Try it and in one month your wife will conceive if you believe.

I am waiting to hear your testimony by the end of this month. Your can drop me your full so I can put you in my daily prayers.
God bless you.

YOUR CASE MUST BE DIFFERENT THIS MONTH

Emaimo:
Before you go for any IVF, I want to introduce you Matt 6 : 33
I want you to give God this month of April to prove His word in your life. Don't pray for yourself, nor your family. Take an hour or two a day and pray for the advancement of the kingdom of God, pray for the unsaved souls, pray for the barren in your church etc. In just this month god will surprise you. I'm not joking bro, it works! It has worked for me in my difficult moments.
You can visit any winners Chapel closer to you ask for kingdom advancement prayer bulletins. Try it and in one month your wife will conceive if you believe.

I
I am waiting to hear your testimony by the end of this month. Your can drop me your full so I can put you in my daily prayers.
God bless you.
YOUR CASE MUST BE DIFFERENT THIS MONTH

Amen.I will do that

just felt myself get cynical with prayers.Feels hard to pray. But I can imagine the kind of soul that prays for others whilst forgetting your own needs.awesome
For anonymity just pray for Brother Kingsley Chijioke.

GodnGold:
Op,you said you don't want to spend your little savings on IVF and not grt results...right?

How would you know if you don't try.

My oga would say 'aga ata ego n'onu?'
(we can't eat paper money as food)

please I advise you work hand in hand with an IVF specialist.

My best friend has being trying for 11 years.,as I type this,she is 5 months gone with triplets.

IVF!!!
Don't forget to share you testimony with us ooo!!!

Thanks Bro.Will.do

ItsQuinn:
OP go and commit suicide!

If m not mistaken I think it's a lady saying this trash, my word for you is that you will never hear the cry of a baby in ur home.

Op, it's a pity u and your wife are going through this trying moments.
When u said your wife has some spiritual issues from father side?
Was she aware of the issues she has before all the processes of wedding and traditional marriage is done?
If yes? Then she made a huge mistake allowing u to pay her dowry first before getting pregnant .this may sound awkward but seriously when one inbetween two couples have spiritual issues from family and He or she is aware of?
It's best to go for court wedding with close friends.. Sideline the troubled family .Dont allow such family be aware of what's about to happen between u and their daughter . Then go for pastor blessing with close friends. And both of u can start living as husband and wife. I bet you the first year of your marriage, your wife will be pregnant and with safe delivery give birth to the babies. By the time u guys are like 5years married with 3kids In between. That's when u can now go and pay dowry and do white wedding if u both wish.
Life is all about handling problems wisely.
this method has worked for a lot of people that comes from troubled background.
Even the very rich do it. Some of the wives, their dowry has not been paid. But they live as husband and wife. None of their friends or neighbours know. People will think both of u are married but only both of u know what's up. Until after many years of having kids, then the husband and his wife will then go forth for the dowry and other things involved. Even elaborate wedding join sef.

But alas both of u have done everything accordingly before making your wife pregnant thinking life is white and black. My dear life is not always white When labelled White, neither is black truly black.
The deed has been done already.. Don't relent keep praying and hoping on God.. Children will come in due time by God's grace. Amen.

I don't know if you have heard of Ttc(trying to conceive) thread under health section. Please always visit that thread. There you will see people who had concluded that nothing a child can come there way. But guess what? When God showed up it was like a dream.

Please go to health section to seek advice spiritually and other wise.

God will show up sooner than you expect.

alexialin:
Op, it's a pity u and your wife are going through this trying moments.
When u said your wife has some spiritual issues from father side?
Was she aware of the issues she has before all the processes of wedding and traditional marriage is done?
If yes? Then she made a huge mistake allowing u to pay her dowry first before getting pregnant .this may sound awkward but seriously when one inbetween two couples have spiritual issues from family and He or she is aware of?
It's best to go for court wedding with close friends.. Sideline the troubled family .Dont allow such family be aware of what's about to happen between u and their daughter . Then go for pastor blessing with close friends. And both of u can start living as husband and wife. I bet you the first year of your marriage, your wife will be pregnant and with safe delivery give birth to the babies. By the time u guys are like 5years married with 3kids In between. That's when u can now go and pay dowry and do white wedding if u both wish.
Life is all about handling problems wisely.
this method has worked for a lot of people that comes from troubled background.
Even the very rich do it. Some of the wives, their dowry has not been paid. But they live as husband and wife. None of their friends or neighbours know. People will think both of u are married but only both of u know what's up. Until after many years of having kids, then the husband and his wife will then go forth for the dowry and other things involved. Even elaborate wedding join sef.

But alas both of u have done everything accordingly before making your wife pregnant thinking life is white and black. My dear life is not always white When labelled White, neither is black truly black.
The deed has been done already.. Don't relent keep praying and hoping on God.. Children will come in due time by God's grace. Amen.

Trust me i agree with you completely. I was completely clueless about the spiritual issues and my wife didn't really know the level of those issues.There were no defensive mechanism for those issues.we.went in naively. I hope people learn from this.
You are wise in this regard.Thank you.God will help us

IVF a reasonable option.

bonjovi12:

Trust me i agree with you completely. I was completely clueless about the spiritual issues and my wife didn't really know the level of those issues.There were no defensive mechanism for those issues.we.went in naively. I hope people learn from this.
You are wise in this regard.Thank you.God will help us

Sighs no wonder.
Peeps should always know the kind of families they all come from to avoid stories that ache during married life.
I hope people learn too. Cause what's happening is so real.

You are welcome.
God will help u and your wife, be steadfast and hopeful.
Don't give hope. Cause someone in her father's family wants both of u to be frustrated and end up divorced or separated from each other. That's the aim and purpose of this delay in having children on-time. Stand firm with each other, be of one mind. Soon your wife will be pregnant and have a baby. Amen.
God bless.

What can I say? Count your blessings, name them one by one, count your blessings see what God has done, count your blessings, name them one by one and it will surprise you what the Lord has done

alexialin:





Sighs no wonder.
Peeps should always know the kind of families they all come from to avoid stories that ache during married life.
I hope people learn too. Cause what's happening is so real.

You are welcome.
God will help u and your wife, be steadfast and hopeful.
Don't give hope. Cause someone in her father's family wants both of u to be frustrated and end up divorced or separated from each other. That's the aim and purpose of this delay in having children on-time. Stand firm with each other, be of one mind. Soon your wife will be pregnant and have a baby. Amen.
God bless.

Dude how do you know so much about this stuff.Exactly what a MOG told us recently.
God is stronger though and we will break the yoke IJN.Amen
Thanks.

bonjovi12:

Dude how do you know so much about this stuff.Exactly what a MOG told us recently.
God is stronger though and we will break the yoke IJN.Amen
Thanks.

Inbetween am a lady
I became an inquisitive lady about what's happening in my family, especially my immediate family. Things were happening that I can't divulge here. I became lost, depressed ,extremely sad even suicidal . And mind you, my dad is late. I had to shake all these bad feelings and start asking questions. I need answers. So in my quest seeking for answers from my mum and from pastors, alfas, yes Alfas even traditionalists back then. I weighed everything they all told.. And they were all saying the same thing but a little difference here and there.. But they were saying the same thing and the solutions they were offering were different from each other.
So I became alert and was almost everything going on in my family and I deduced.. OK? So this is how it is abi? Mehn this life is deep.

My family personal experience was an eye opener for me. Have stopped doing what my family think is normal for one to do.. Have stopped it. And I will tell u categoritically, since I stopped following my family way of thinking . My life has been blissful, relationship with my man is growing strong by the day, unlike before. Business is moving well. Everything is on point. And my mum is my best friend too. Some family members in my extended family may say am heartless and I behave like a guy but hey! I need to do what's best for me and my mum to avoid stories that touch. Have seen and cried enough tears in the past when things were going wrong and extended family did nothing to help us. But just kept mum looking at us. My inner being had to toughen up and become a man. My feminine spirit died and withered away.
I became closer to God so as not to lose my bearing . my mind and spirit is alert, I also made my fiance understand the only person he should be concerned with is mum and my sibling and one of my uncles in Lagos. They rest is zero. He shouldn't bother himself on them, orelse he's looking for unforeseen disaster . He quickly grab.. Lol and he said don't worry he understands.
My dear, my past family story is long, touching and sad. But have learnt the hard way and I now know how to protect my future family with my fiance away from my extended family. It's a tough decision but I simply have to do it.. So that my unborn generation will not suffer unjustly.
Hold on to God. Learn to build yourself spiritually with words of God and wife too should follow suit. both of you will be safe and babies will come. Always pray together is very important. As u pray always, God will reveal solutions to what's going on around u.
God never fails.. He simply waiting for u and wife to come to Him through Christ Jesus for peace and solutions.
It's indeed well.

1234onyekwe:
If m not mistaken I think it's a lady saying this trash, my word for you is that you will never hear the cry of a baby in ur home.

What she said is very very wrong. But pls, the curse is very powerful sir/ma.

I pray she realizes her wrong and apologies and may she also conceive and give birth in due time.

OP, you will have your own children, it is constant. Be prayerful and also try theIVF of you can afford it.

Try read faith based books like "You shall not be barren" by David oyedepo and "supernatural childbirth" by Jackie Mize.

It is well

1234onyekwe:
If m not mistaken I think it's a lady saying this trash, my word for you is that you will never hear the cry of a baby in ur home.

What she said is very very wrong. But pls, the curse is very powerful sir/ma.

I pray she realizes her wrong and apologies and may she also conceive and give birth in due time.

OP, you will have your own children, it is constant. Be prayerful and also try the IVF of you can afford it.

Try read faith based books like "You shall not be barren" by David oyedepo and "supernatural childbirth" by Jackie Mize.

It is well

alexialin:



Inbetween am a lady
I became an inquisitive lady about what's happening in my family, especially my immediate family. Things were happening that I can't divulge here. I became lost, depressed ,extremely sad even suicidal . And mind you, my dad is late. I had to shake all these bad feelings and start asking questions. I need answers. So in my quest seeking for answers from my mum and from pastors, alfas, yes Alfas even traditionalists back then. I weighed everything they all told.. And they were all saying the same thing but a little difference here and there.. But they were saying the same thing and the solutions they were offering were different from each other.
So I became alert and was almost everything going on in my family and I deduced.. OK? So this is how it is abi? Mehn this life is deep.

My family personal experience was an eye opener for me. Have stopped doing what my family think is normal for one to do.. Have stopped it. And I will tell u categoritically, since I stopped following my family way of thinking . My life has been blissful, relationship with my man is growing strong by the day, unlike before. Business is moving well. Everything is on point. And my mum is my best friend too. Some family members in my extended family may say am heartless and I behave like a guy but hey! I need to do what's best for me and my mum to avoid stories that touch. Have seen and cried enough tears in the past when things were going wrong and extended family did nothing to help us. But just kept mum looking at us. My inner being had to toughen up and become a man. My feminine spirit died and withered away.
I became closer to God so as not to lose my bearing . my mind and spirit is alert, I also made my fiance understand the only person he should be concerned with is mum and my sibling and one of my uncles in Lagos. They rest is zero. He shouldn't bother himself on them, orelse he's looking for unforeseen disaster . He quickly grab.. Lol and he said don't worry he understands.
My dear, my past family story is long, touching and sad. But have learnt the hard way and I now know how to protect my future family with my fiance away from my extended family. It's a tough decision but I simply have to do it.. So that my unborn generation will not suffer unjustly.
Hold on to God. Learn to build yourself spiritually with words of God and wife too should follow suit. both of you will be safe and babies will come. Always pray together is very important. As u pray always, God will reveal solutions to what's going on around u.
God never fails.. He simply waiting for u and wife to come to Him through Christ Jesus for peace and solutions.
It's indeed well.

I am literally standing in awe of you and your life experience.
Like I feel you completely. I am a very spiritual person and if not for that my marriage would have ended since and I wouldn't have been where I am today.But Gods grace has always been sufficient for me.
I.pray God gives me the grace to go back to my fervent prayer life.
Somehow I know I am going to have kids. That's sure and I would let u guys know.
For all those who are compassionate about every couple going through a waiting period,pls.pray for us.Lift us up before the throne of God.May God break every yoke preventing the manifestation of our children.
Keep in touch. Regards

1234onyekwe:
If m not mistaken I think it's a lady saying this trash, my word for you is that you will never hear the cry of a baby in ur home.

No please.Take back the curse.
She is a very troubled person for her to do that.
She is in pains or under some form of demonic control.
I wish her peace and God's intervention.
I.choose to be in a good place.
Bless you

1234onyekwe:
If m not mistaken I think it's a lady saying this trash, my word for you is that you will never hear the cry of a baby in ur home.

No bro, withdraw that curse. I think she is already cursed because no normal human being would joke with a very serious issue like this. And I'm very sure that she was cursed immediately she typed this nonsense by the power above.
Op, I advice you that as you go medical also go spiritual. Pray and pray and remember not give God time. It will happen at God's own time.

ItsQuinn:
OP go and commit suicide!

I logged in purposely to reply your comment.

You dont laugh at another's pain.

I have seen have you have taken lightly the corrections kindly given you by other and I don't expect anything different from you about mine.

I don't know if you have a perfect life now that makes you feel invinsible or its the anonymity of Naira land that makes you feel invisible.

But you don't talk to a depressed person like that. No, you don't make jest of another's suffering.

Its against everything morally right.

You don't throw stones at a bruised soul. No

I pray you never go throw halve of what the poster is going through.

I pray God forgives you for your insensitive comment.

At poster: please hold on the faith. Please be calm and prayerful.

May God, who can do superabundantly more than what we ask of Him, grant you your hearts desire.

May He strengthen you and your wife to stay strong till that time.

You are not alone and never will you be put to shame.

Go for adoption. Do it now and I believe God will open up ur womb. Do it now so dat in some years to come u will be happy u did it. Take ur mind off having ur own kids adopt one and see how God will surprise u with a child of ur own

Lalaity:


I logged in purposely to reply your comment.

You dont laugh at another's pain.

I have seen have you have taken lightly the corrections kindly given you by other and I don't expect anything different from you about mine.

I don't know if you have a perfect life now that makes you feel invinsible or its the anonymity of Naira land that makes you feel invisible.

But you don't talk to a depressed person like that. No, you don't make jest of another's suffering.

Its against everything morally right.

You don't throw stones at a bruised soul. No

I pray you never go throw halve of what the poster is going through.

I pray God forgives you for your insensitive comment.

At poster: please hold on the faith. Please be calm and prayerful.

May God, who can do superabundantly more than what we ask of Him, grant you your hearts desire.

May He strengthen you and your wife to stay strong till that time.

You are not alone and never will you be put to shame.

Amen.You guys have lifted my spirit and it I feel refreshed.Like I'm not alone.No judgement. No sarcastic talk(well.except for one).
People who wait to have children do not get this same love in real life.They are given funny looks.Put down and generally made to feel like freaks.Most people don't come out to make fun of you but you can sense it.
That's why i took to nairaland.I'm blessed to have you guys.You don't know how much my spirit has been lifted.
Someone even got in touch through email.Thank you Tonye Bacanister.
I make this prayer to God which sees and hears us that for every one who felt concerned enough to drop a word if advice and encouragement,May God never allow you to be put to shame.May God always find you worthy for favour. May your desires always see the light if day IJN.Amen
I pray for all those seeking the blessing of children. May God answer us this year.May he remember us for good and cause our mouth to open with shouts of victory IJN.Amen.
@Quinn or something. May the Lord have mercy on your soul,you poor lost child if His.I embrace you with the Father's love. If you don't believe in God and if your experiences in life have made you bitter and vindictive, may God reveal His love to you and comfort you.
There us still good in the world. People still.care.I really love you and wish you to live in prosperity and peace.
Thanks all