petra1:


You are the one preaching the doctrine of giving all . And you should back the doctrine from scripture . Where did Gid say to give all and what does he mean by the context . I didn't teach about giving all you did. If I teach about giving all . I will give you scriptures and explain what I understand by it

I was only making clear God's standard on giving.....,God's standards weren't used for the Israelites you know?

petra1:

You're ignorant. Everything has its place .
Prayer has its blessing
almsgiving has its blessing
Tithing has its blessing
Offering has its blessing
Giving to man of God has its blessing
Giving to frlow believers has its blessing
Giving to parents has its blessing
Knowledge of God has it'd blessing
Hard work has its blessing


If you do then you reap the individual blessing they carry. But if you don't you simply lose the blessing they carry

in a sense, this is technically wrong,
you only loose what you have. For example £100 in your pocket falls off or his stolen -this is a loss because you actually tangibly had it.

A better way to express your thoughts might be this:
If you do then you reap the individual blessing they carry. But if you don't you simply don't access the blessing they carry

...words carry a lot of expressive weight mate

petra1:


"By faith Abel. . ." "Faith comes by hearing". They must have been taught or instructed . Abel obeyed by painstakingly selecting the firstling of every animal he offered . Cain didn't bother to go through the rigors . He offered something else . His wasn't based on faith. He heart definately wasn't right hence his action.

Are you now saying God had instructed them before hand about giving the first fruit?

I think this topic has been debated for some time now,with so many threads that have nipped this issue in the bud...any one who has a bible and led by the spirit sud know tithe sud no longer be practiced by believers of the gospel of Jesus christ!
We can argue from now till the end of all things,but the truth from the scripture still remains explicit.....no more tithes! Any thing that has no form of free will or decision from you when giving is no longer free will giving but mandatory or based on a requirement to get something from God!
Feel free to dispute my assertions

My challenge is with weak Christians who leave studying of God's word (The Bible) to their Pastors and sink or float with his interpretation. They forget that ignorance of the Law is NOT an Excuse for Sin. So also "My Pastor did not tell me that" is NOT an Excuse for Sin.

Most of us have been brain washed for so many years with verses quoted of context especially malachi 3:10. But a little study brings out Deuteronomy 14: 22-29 and Deuteronomy 12: 11-28. Tell your pastor you will pay your Tithe unfailingly but not to him/her. Tell your pastor you will pay your Tithe as God stipulated in Deuteronomy 14:22-29

I suggest you read this book http:///TithePB
It is written in a Question & Answer format and it answers lots of questions on Tithe, Offering, First fruits and Vows.

There is no gain in saying that the current structure of most churches for the collection of Tithe & Offering and "Church Planting" rather than Evangelism, Crusades and Missions has brought many pastors(Not All) to eternal condemnation.

All4good:
My challenge is with weak Christians who leave studying of God's word (The Bible) to their Pastors and sink or float with his interpretation. They forget that ignorance of the Law is NOT an Excuse for Sin. So also "My Pastor did not tell me that" is NOT an Excuse for Sin.

Most of us have been brain washed for so many years with verses quoted of context especially malachi 3:10. But a little study brings out Deuteronomy 14: 22-29 and Deuteronomy 12: 11-28. Tell your pastor you will pay your Tithe unfailingly but not to him/her. Tell your pastor you will pay your Tithe as God stipulated in Deuteronomy 14:22-29

I suggest you read this book http:///TithePB
It is written in a Question & Answer format and it answers lots of questions on Tithe, Offering, First fruits and Vows.

There is no gain in saying that the current structure of most churches for the collection of Tithe & Offering and "Church Planting" rather than Evangelism, Crusades and Missions has brought many pastors(Not All) to eternal condemnation.

Absolutely spot on!