kateskitty:
Judas could have still repented after betraying Jesus, but because​ he fell into despair his soul was lost forever.
Even Peter betrayed Jesus by denying him yet he repented and received mercy.

ReubenE:

The question is, by what means?
He could not have died a natural death, because the purpose for the death was meant to be a sacrifice.

Whether Judas stole from the purse is just one of the many sins we all commit, and is not enough to write him off.
Mind you, when Christ died, his death also washed away the sins of Judas....I believe!

For me, the man only carried out a divine assignment whether good or bad, because someone needed to do the job.

As the OP rightly opined, some of the characters in the bible that we so much respect, did equally despicable things that were not divinely ordained or programmed. Yet we adore them, we wish to be like them.

I think we should give Judas a break....

zionmade:

I sense am talking with a spiritually dead man, AKA unbeliever.
I dnt expect u to understand anything because d word of God says u re spiritually blind, deaf and dumb, no understanding.

zionmade:

D fulfillment of dat prophecy was not dependent on d lepers d same way d death of Jesus was not dependent on Judas.
If God needs a man to leave d earth, and u go and kill dat man, bro u d blood will be on ur head even though u wud think dat u helped God achieve dat purpose. D job is for d devil and if u allow d devil use u, u will answer for it

Mrchippychappy:
Judas was unclean right from the start.


“Have I not chosen you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is a devil!” (John 6:70)


The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born.” (Matt. 26:24)


Even my close friend, whom I trusted, he who shared my bread, has lifted up his heel against me.(John 13:18)


It could have very well happened that the Pharisees themselves would have reported Jesus Christ to the Romans and the Romans would have crucified him if the Pharisees had brought up enough evidence. Read the bible properly Judas DIDN'T HAVE TO BETRAY JESUS CHRIST, he wasn't brainwashed, he had freewill and he volunteered to betray Jesus Christ. The purpose of the pharisees choosing an "inside man" to betray his leader was to destroy the foundation of the disciples and Christianity in the bigger picture but as with most plans of man, their plan failed woefully. The pharisees were more than capable of swaying the roman council to execute Jesus christ BUT they wanted to ridicule the followership of Christ and sow the seed of discord among the disciples and so they decided to use one of the disciples to betray his leader, unfortunately for them it didn't work.

menxer:


Does it mean a "Christian" like you can't share in an argument without resorting to insults?

So according to your spiritual sight, how would God achieve what he wanted on earth without human agency?

Who is the devil assigned to do God's work?

YesNo:



Painment.

Thats the same thing the white people told your great grandfathers and great grandmothers.

They had the right to use your black brothers and sister as slaves and sex slaves but your black brothers had no right to even look them in the eye. i bet you would not have like it.

and here you are telling me and other people the same thing.

funny world.

oruma19:
honestly I rily dont understand this sentiment. Shouldn't everybody face his own mode of worship? Y can't I comment on Islamic thread? But they r free to misbehave on our own threads?

zionmade:

If u are an atheist d word spiritually blind, deaf and dumb shudnt mean anything to u. Its never an insult to call an atheist son of devil because he doesn't believe in any of those things. So be a true atheist u re.
I carefully choose my words.
It will be a waste of time arguing upandan with an atheist. I prefer physical approach because it gives me d opportunity to look into his eyes and command d devil of spiritual blindness to go

ReubenE:

Exactly the mind set the post is meant to change.
It is a misplacement of priority to go after Judas for doing a job assigned to him.
You and I could have done it anyways if it were to be our days.

Looking at the big picture, looking at Judas, the sin he committed served a greater good.
A purpose was behind it, salvation for mankind.
But this generation, what do we do, sometimes we commit sin for absolutely no reason.

Jumia delivery man killed for phone, how about that?

murphyjamaal99:
ur foolishness knows no bounds..

ROBO1722:


BROS! PLEASE GO STUDY THE WORD OF GOD. DONT FORGET THAT "GOOD AND EVIL" ARE GOD'S WORK, BUT, HE ALLOWS US TO MAKE OUR CHOICE. IF YOU CHOOSE TO STEAL OR KILL because IT'S GOD'S WORK, YOU HAVE TAKEN THE PATH OF DEATH. JUDAS ISCARIOT TOOK THE WRONG LANE AND HIS RIGHTFUL POSITION IS HELL (WOE BE THAT MAN THAT WILL BETRAY THE SON OF MAN………..THIS IS CONTAINED IN THE HOLY BOOK)

BE GUIDED PLS

Chiedu4Trump:


The hypocrisy on Nairaland is something else
They insult the church and Christianity.
Say anything against Islam and they can you.

Mrchippychappy:



John 12:6.

zionmade:


John 12:4-6
Did u also read in Ezekiel 18:20 where God said he will no more lay d sins of d father upon d sons?
Rom 8:1 therefore now, there is NO CONDEMNATION.
D day one gets born again u become a son of God. U re disconnected from every wrong ur father had done

Shafiiimran99:
U don't understand right, the reason is that u said ur god came to this world through woman in order to sacrifice himself to himself so that he can save u from himself.

oruma19:
but even born again Christian of theses days still suffer for the sins of their ancestors. We see these cases all around. I am just curious.

Judas Iscariot, deserves a lot more respect from the Christian community. As a matter of fact, in solidarity to this great heroic biblical figure, one of my boys will bear 'Judas' as a middle name when he arrives in the nearest future!

Twitter: @princewill_nimi

oruma19:
if a Christian makes this kind of comment in a Muslim thread we know what would have happened by now . They will start one foolish riot and kill innocent pple. Nairaland is not a serious forum . It is clear.

YesNo:
I am not a religious jagaban or warrior or anything like that but I noticed that no one made me swear that i am a Christian and i vote for Jesus when I was about to comment on this post.... which means the gate is wide open for Muslims to comment but the road is Narrow for Christians to comment on any Muslim topic.
Hello Mr Seun Osewa, How are you?
I am sure you must find that this issue tilts to one end and gives our dear Muslim brothers and sisters more advantage to sow seeds in the Christian comments garden while the Christian people have to take an oath before they set foot in Muslim garden. I am sure you don't like such toxic favoritism and I am certain that an upright and outstanding gentleman such as yourself would not be the one to fashion such a discriminating barricade in the religious comment section.
#YiMu

I trust you will do something to strike a balance Today. Will You?

#FAVORITISM.
#SacredCows.


#S.O

PsychedeliQ:
The Christian Easter festivities have hurriedly come and gone, but one name has remarkably stayed stuck on the lips of a large portion of Christians. As often the case every year, this mysterious name continues to grow even more popular than the celebrated occasion.


Judas Iscariot: A name notoriously synonymous with greed, betrayal and treason. A name heavily loathed by children, despised by adults and provides every preacher with a great point of reference to knock a sermon into shape, and get a sober audience nodding along. A name famous for the romantic public display of affection, which led to the vulnerable timely death of the guiltless Son of God.


A lot of Christians, continue to blackmail Judas Iscariot as the enemy, denying him of his rightful heroic street credibility!


The death and resurrection of Jesus as understood from the Bible, was already predestined to happen with a disciple of Jesus, setting the process into motion. Someone among the twelve disciples, had to do the dirty work! It was unfortunate, but quite heroic for Judas to be singled out by his heavenly recruiters to fit the job description.


The mountainous role played by Judas Iscariot in delivering his master into the hands of his captors (as widely condemned), laid the foundation in giving the Gospel a worldwide facelift, through the death and resurrection of Christ. If Judas hadn't done it, someone else would have stepped in on the job, and will just like Judas, suffer a posthumous tarnished reputation!

How else was Jesus meant to be captured? Any of you blackmailers got an idea?


Why doesn't the name 'Judas' align with contemporary birth names for male children?


Judas Iscariot, had his personal flaws like every other Christian did and currently do.


Paul (while as Saul) slaughtered an outrageous number of Christians. David, likewise his promiscuous son Solomon, was a man LovePeddler! Thomas, was recorded as a doubter and a man of great deficiency in faith. Peter, consciously denied Jesus three consecutive times (as was part of his destiny), and many others.


Christians forgave these men of despicable character and continued over the years to christen their kids after them, but just wouldn't do the same for a remorseful Judas Iscariot, who went as far as taking his own life in remorse for a crime he was already predestined to commit!


Aren't we as Christians, in a way possibly unknown to us, bias and plainly sentimental?


Judas Iscariot, deserves a lot more respect from the Christian community. As a matter of fact, in solidarity to this great heroic biblical figure, one of my boys will bear 'Judas' as a middle name when he arrives in the nearest future!

Twitter: @princewill_nimi

zionmade:
Bros i love ur passion in naming ur boy Judas. Its not a bad name though.
But Judas Jesus' disciple was stealing from d purse of Jesus which made him available for use by d devil.
Jesus didn't die because someone betrayed him. Even if no one betrayed him, at d appointed time, he could have still died.

kaelz:
Please, correct ur impression, Judas never stole from Jesus' purse, he was the financial secretary of Jesus (check the records). Judas has the mindset that Jesus after being arrested will fight the soldiers and regain His freedom, but as Judas got disappointed, he (Judas) went on to hang himself. Judas, only fulfilled the scriptures period.