tintingz:
- Must married couples perform these rituals you mentioned in your post every time they wanna have sex?

- So a child is disobedient because parents don't do dua/rituals before having sex, how is that even rational?

Abeg wat is d ritual in sayin two quick prayers in ur mind. wat is hard in dat.

Whats irrational about it?,cant u reason beyond the hate and try to comprehend wat was said there..which part of "some schoolars"dont u get,its any propotion out a 100%,which could be 10,20,30 etc,thats wat he meant by that..the hadith of the prophet states those rituals should be done but didnt state that if otherwise ur children will be disobedien,so that part is totally their inisuation which has no authentic source,after all their humans just like u and i,so anything that is not from the qur'an or hadith is null and void..and the reason we do all those supplication is bcuz we believe satan is always around us to sow discord,not just during sex but at all times,thats why we seek refuge from our lord,u might think is hard so as the 5 daily prayers that my friends are baffled about how we cope with,but its something that is embedded and ingrained within us,just like a reflex action..hope u get it

tintingz:
There are some point in your post tho but one will have to perform rituals every time sex is about to be done between married couples.

This one here is irrational.

Its not compulsory fam,leave it to those who can do it..its all about choice,which is the greatest thing god has given us

dalaman:
So all this ritual just because two people want to have sex??

Me myslef i dont believe the part it states "thats why ur children become disobedient" bcuz even though the hadith states that those ritual should be done there is no place it suggestion,indicate that if otherwise ur children will be disobedient,so as an individual u can decide to take or leave it,but it has no source whatsoever..if u notice when the thread was talkin about supplications he qouted the prophet but when it came to the "disobedience" part,it was said some "schoolars"..so as a human everyone can make up things,but i rest assure u the quran is perfect,u cant find any contradiction watsoever

mexxmoney:
You said children become disobedient because their parents didn't say the dua before having sex? Hello!!!! You really believe that crap? I don't know if I should laugh at you or cry for you

dacoza007:


see as ur comment dey make me laugh!!!!
terrorist with constitution book (Quran)

Lol. Silence is the best answer. It also shows maturity, good upbringing, high level of spirituality, not good to reply anything by dignifying, really!

Its not necessary and compulsory to agree with anything that has been said here,ur entiltle to that,but u should learn how to respect ppl's opinion without being insultive..its not reasonable to wait and pray for bout 1min but its rational and ok for u to wait for about 5min of pre-intimacy..it doesnt cost to think man,go beyong the hatred and think logically

watered:
These people are not serious o. You mean my WMD is standing on full attention and I will be doing all these crap before thrusting?

Muslim wives do not wear undies while with their husbands and severally I've heard their women complain of severe injuries as a result of the inhumane way their horse-rope-like husbands thrusts.


I disagree with this poo. In fact lemme go and take tramadol (200mg),Viagra 100. Hauwa must hear from me today.

ItsTutsi:
Its not necessary and compulsory to agree with anything that has been said here,ur entiltle to that,but u should learn how to respect ppl's opinion without being insultive..its not reasonable to wait and pray for bout 1min but its rational and ok for u to wait for about 5min of pre-intimacy..it doesnt cost to think man,go beyong the hatred and think logically

I respect your approach. Ode ni

If u dont mind,can u qoute anywhere in the quran that validates terrorism??

dacoza007:


see as ur comment dey make me laugh!!!!
terrorist with constitution book (Quran)

Deleel on masturbation pls?

S

I gave up on Islam after reading in the Hadith about the rewards of a true Muslim- they are promised that the men will be given young women with their beasts pear shaped and that the men will have perpetual erection, the pens will never soften. Islam is simply deluded religion. Everything about the religious has at its core sex, women and sensual gratification.

Tanks 4 the advise and article..

kudos to u brother
I learnt some important stuffs from ur write up
thanks for this enlightening piece

irahub:
I gave up on Islam after reading in the Hadith about the rewards of a true Muslim- they are promised that the men will be given young women with their beasts pear shaped and that the men will have perpetual erection, the pens will never soften. Islam is simply deluded religion. Everything about the religious has at its core sex, women and sensual gratification.

Please borrow me your brain, "when are you going to learn how to live and let others live" I think it's moral obligation we owe ourselves

kamilous:
Deleel on masturbation pls?

Can you clarify the question,
If you mean deleel in support, you can never see such a thing but if you mean deleel in opposite, the first page of suratu li muminum is more than enough proof just try to understand the verses using kutubu tafaasir

Baarakallahu fiikum

Let me quote the verses because of some ignorants like the one quoting me

Allah says in Quran when he explained the qualities of a true believer one of which is :

5. And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts, from illegal sexual acts)

6. Except from their wives or that their right hands possess, for then, they are free from blame;

7. But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors;

He stated clearly in verse 7 that whoever seeks beyond that are transgressor. How then will an ignorant says some scholars say blablabla and concluded that it is because of useless reasons when he sees a clear cut evidence

Ayomideen:
kudos to u brother

I learnt some important stuffs from ur write up

thanks for this enlightening piece

Jazzakumullahu khaira may almighty Allah bless you with pious children

yazach:


Can you clarify the question,
If you mean deleel in support, you can never see such a thing but if you mean deleel in opposite, the first page of suratu li muminum is more than enough proof just try to understand the verses using kutubu tafaasir

Baarakallahu fiikum

I don't want to quote you concerning masturbation but I feel like quoting your irrationality after the guy asked for daleel on masturbation.

Masturbation is dislike according to some scholars school of thought and not forbidden, reason because it is used in:

- Medics

- Prison

- To avoid fornication.

^^^ the last one which is fornication, one should fast instead but if can't be control, it is recommend to relieve oneself.

tintingz:
I don't want to quote you concerning masturbation but I feel like quoting your irrationality after the guy asked for daleel on masturbation.

Masturbation is dislike according to some scholars school of thought and not forbidden, reason because it is used in:

- Medics

- Prison

- To avoid fornication.

^^^ the last one which is fornication, one should fast instead but if can't be control, it is recommend to relieve oneself.

What is this one saying?
What do you know except ranting here and there,
Will you please keep quiet!!!
Are you referring to scholars like yourself?

yazach:


What is this one saying?
What do you know except ranting here and there,
Will you please keep quiet!!!
Are you referring to scholars like yourself?

It is scholarly opinions not mine.

Read:

Under no circumstances can the sin of masturbation be permitted! But if one finds himself in a situation, where he has been swayed by his emotions and finds himself in a situation whereby he is absolutely unable to control himself from the sin of actual zina and the only options left with him is the choice between zina or masturbation, then the scholars have opined that in such circumstances, where the person is absolutely unable to resist himself and avoid committing the sin of zina; he should opt for the smaller of the two sins (masturbation).
http://islamhelpline.net/node/1581

The four Sunni schools of jurisprudence (known as Madhaahib - the Hanafi, Shafi'i, Maliki and Hanbali schools of Fiqh) have differing stances on the issue. Some see it forbidden in certain cases (i.e. if it leads a man/woman to ignore their spouse sexually) but recommended it when they see it as a lesser evil to illicit sex. It is generally prohibited according to the Hanafi and Hanbali Mazhabs, unless one fears adultery or fornication, or is under the desire pressure, in which case, it is permissible to seek a relief through masturbation. It is prohibited all the time according to the Maliki and Shafi`i Mazhabs.[7] However, Imam Ibn Hazm regard masturbation as permissible.[8]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_masturbation

Those who go for fertility test are told to masturbate to get their semen. In prison they don't have other choice than to masturbate that's the only way to relief themselves while some engage in homosexuality.

Be rational in your post.

tintingz:
It is scholarly opinions not mine.

Read:

Under no circumstances can the sin of masturbation be permitted! But if one finds himself in a situation, where he has been swayed by his emotions and finds himself in a situation whereby he is absolutely unable to control himself from the sin of actual zina and the only options left with him is the choice between zina or masturbation, then the scholars have opined that in such circumstances, where the person is absolutely unable to resist himself and avoid committing the sin of zina; he should opt for the smaller of the two sins (masturbation).
http://islamhelpline.net/node/1581

The four Sunni schools of jurisprudence (known as Madhaahib - the Hanafi, Shafi'i, Maliki and Hanbali schools of Fiqh) have differing stances on the issue. Some see it forbidden in certain cases (i.e. if it leads a man/woman to ignore their spouse sexually) but recommended it when they see it as a lesser evil to illicit sex. It is generally prohibited according to the Hanafi and Hanbali Mazhabs, unless one fears adultery or fornication, or is under the desire pressure, in which case, it is permissible to seek a relief through masturbation. It is prohibited all the time according to the Maliki and Shafi`i Mazhabs.[7] However, Imam Ibn Hazm regard masturbation as permissible.[8]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_masturbation

Those who go for fertility test are told to masturbate to get their semen. In prison they don't have other choice than to masturbate that's the only way to relief themselves while some engage in homosexuality.

Be rational in your post.

When did you start reading/ quoting the scholars?

Where is your kittabu rahsi

Now to your post I non of them differ and opposed masturbation as a sinful act.
What is your argument gangan

yazach:


When did you start reading/ quoting the scholars?

Where is your kittabu rahsi

Now to your post I non of them differ and opposed masturbation as a sinful act.
What is your argument gangan

I was a sunni Muslim like you so I read scholars write ups and videos.

My argument is, be rational for one sec, the guy above asked for daleel(evidence) for masturbation, all you could do is refer him to some ayah that does not talk about masturbation. You didn't consider some scholars opinions that differs but want yours to be the ultimatum, final.

Can you clarify the question,
If you mean deleel in support, you can never see such a thing but if you mean deleel in opposite, the first page of suratu li muminum is more than enough proof just try to understand the verses using kutubu tafaasir

Baarakallahu fiikum

Let me quote the verses because of some ignorants like the one quoting me

Allah says in Quran when he explained the qualities of a true believer one of which is :

5. And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts, from illegal sexual acts)

6. Except from their wives or that their right hands possess, for then, they are free from blame;

7. But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors;

He stated clearly in verse 7 that whoever seeks beyond that are transgressor.yes,i think i get u right,i just want to clearify coz those in SCHOOL OF HANAFI said dat the verse six is only refearing to ZINA and dat it exclude masturbation and they give 3 conditions...BARAKALAHUN FIHKA.

yazach:


Can you clarify the question,
If you mean deleel in support, you can never see such a thing but if you mean deleel in opposite, the first page of suratu li muminum is more than enough proof just try to understand the verses using kutubu tafaasir

Baarakallahu fiikum

Let me quote the verses because of some ignorants like the one quoting me

Allah says in Quran when he explained the qualities of a true believer one of which is :

5. And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts, from illegal sexual acts)

6. Except from their wives or that their right hands possess, for then, they are free from blame;

7. But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors;

He stated clearly in verse 7 that whoever seeks beyond that are transgressor. How then will an ignorant says some scholars say blablabla and concluded that it is because of useless reasons when he sees a clear cut evidence

yes but those HANAFIYAT said d verse meant ZINA

kamilous:
yes but those HANAFIYAT said d verse meant ZINA

Thanks but don't forget that a scholar opinion will be taken base on evidence.

Sayings Of The Imaams Regarding Following The Sunnah And Ignoring Their Views Contradictory To It

It would be beneficial if we gave some of these here, for perhaps this will admonish or remind those who follow the opinion of the Imaams sticking to their madhhabs or views as if these had descended from the heavens! But Allaah, Mighty and Sublime, says:
"Follow (O men!) the revelation given to you from your Lord, and follow not, as friends and protectors, other than Him. Little is it you remember of admonition

HANAFI

"It is not permitted for anyone to accept our views if they do not know from where we got it

Maaliki:

"Truly I am only a mortal: I make mistakes (sometimes) and I am correct (sometimes). Therefore, look into my opinions: all that agrees with the Book and the Sunnah, accept it; and all that does not agree with the Book and the Sunnah, ignore it.

Hanaabila:

"Do not follow my opinion; neither follow the opinion of Maalik, nor Shaafi'i, nor Awzaa'i, nor Thawri, but take from where they took."

What we should know is the evidence for the interpretation

tintingz:
I was a sunni Muslim like you so I read scholars write ups and videos.

My argument is, be rational for one sec, the guy above asked for daleel(evidence) for masturbation, all you could do is refer him to some ayah that does not talk about masturbation. You didn't consider some scholars opinions that differs but want yours to be the ultimatum, final.

This is your post :
tintingz:

It is scholarly opinions not mine.

Read:

Under no circumstances can the sin of masturbation be permitted! But if one finds himself in a situation, where he has been swayed by his emotions and finds himself in a situation whereby he is absolutely unable to control himself from the sin of actual zina and the only options left with him is the choice between zina or masturbation, then the scholars have opined that in such circumstances, where the person is absolutely unable to resist himself and avoid committing the sin of zina; he should opt for the smaller of the two sins (masturbation).
http://islamhelpline.net/node/1581

The four Sunni schools of jurisprudence (known as Madhaahib - the Hanafi, Shafi'i, Maliki and Hanbali schools of Fiqh) have differing stances on the issue. Some see it forbidden in certain cases (i.e. if it leads a man/woman to ignore their spouse sexually) but recommended it when they see it as a lesser evil to illicit sex. It is generally prohibited according to the Hanafi and Hanbali Mazhabs, unless one fears adultery or fornication, or is under the desire pressure, in which case, it is permissible to seek a relief through masturbation. It is prohibited all the time according to the Maliki and Shafi`i Mazhabs.[7] However, Imam Ibn Hazm regard masturbation as permissible.[8]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_masturbation

Those who go for fertility test are told to masturbate to get their semen. In prison they don't have other choice than to masturbate that's the only way to relief themselves while some engage in homosexuality.

Be rational in your post.

yazach:


This is your post :
tintingz:

It is scholarly opinions not mine.

Read:

Under no circumstances can the sin of masturbation be permitted! But if one finds himself in a situation, where he has been swayed by his emotions and finds himself in a situation whereby he is absolutely unable to control himself from the sin of actual zina and the only options left with him is the choice between zina or masturbation, then the scholars have opined that in such circumstances, where the person is absolutely unable to resist himself and avoid committing the sin of zina; he should opt for the smaller of the two sins (masturbation).
http://islamhelpline.net/node/1581

The four Sunni schools of jurisprudence (known as Madhaahib - the Hanafi, Shafi'i, Maliki and Hanbali schools of Fiqh) have differing stances on the issue. Some see it forbidden in certain cases (i.e. if it leads a man/woman to ignore their spouse sexually) but recommended it when they see it as a lesser evil to illicit sex. It is generally prohibited according to the Hanafi and Hanbali Mazhabs, unless one fears adultery or fornication, or is under the desire pressure, in which case, it is permissible to seek a relief through masturbation. It is prohibited all the time according to the Maliki and Shafi`i Mazhabs.[7] However, Imam Ibn Hazm regard masturbation as permissible.[8]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_masturbation

Those who go for fertility test are told to masturbate to get their semen. In prison they don't have other choice than to masturbate that's the only way to relief themselves while some engage in homosexuality.

Be rational in your post.

Lol, Something is a sin but it is said to use to relief oneself. Did you read the other scholar that said it is permissible?

This is a psych thing to make people believe what they are doing is a sin but you can do it.

Some religious stuff are ridiculous.

well said,i dnt mean any evil,just to let know therd madhab,and they said these wit wat deh undertood abt d verse.Sayings Of The Imaams Regarding Following The Sunnah And Ignoring Their Views Contradictory To It

It would be beneficial if we gave some of these here, for perhaps this will admonish or remind those who follow the opinion of the Imaams sticking to their madhhabs or views as if these had descended from the heavens! But Allaah, Mighty and Sublime, says:
"Follow (O men!) the revelation given to you from your Lord, and follow not, as friends and protectors, other than Him. Little is it you remember of admonition

HANAFI

"It is not permitted for anyone to accept our views if they do not know from where we got it

Maaliki:

"Truly I am only a mortal: I make mistakes (sometimes) and I am correct (sometimes). Therefore, look into my opinions: all that agrees with the Book and the Sunnah, accept it; and all that does not agree with the Book and the Sunnah, ignore it.

Hanaabila:

tintingz:
Lol, Something is a sin but it is said to use to relief oneself. Did you read the other scholar that said it is permissible?

This is a psych thing to make people believe what they are doing is a sin but you can do it.

Some religious stuff are ridiculous.

Surat azzumar Vs 9

Is one who is obedient to Allah, prostrating himself or standing (in prayer) during the hours of the night, fearing the Hereafter and hoping for the Mercy of his Lord (like one who disbelieves)? Say: “Are those who know equal to those who know not?” It is only men of understanding who will remember (i.e. get a lesson from Allah’s Signs and Verses).

I think at this junction, it will be better to act inline with what demmzy said

[quote author=yazach post=56085546]

Thanks but don't forget that a scholar opinion will be taken base on evidence.

Sayings Of The Imaams Regarding Following The Sunnah And Ignoring Their Views Contradictory To It

It would be beneficial if we gave some of these here, for perhaps this will admonish or remind those who follow the opinion of the Imaams sticking to their madhhabs or views as if these had descended from the heavens! But Allaah, Mighty and Sublime, says:
"Follow (O men!) the revelation given to you from your Lord, and follow not, as friends and protectors, other than Him. Little is it you remember of admonition

HANAFI

"It is not permitted for anyone to accept our views if they do not know from where we got it

Maaliki:
mortal: I make mistakes (sometimes) .well said,i dnt mean any evil,just to let know there MADZHAB,REMEMBER they talk on wat they understand about the verse.and they use to said dat there is no one after rosul except to take and leave from there words.

yazach:


Surat azzumar Vs 9

Is one who is obedient to Allah, prostrating himself or standing (in prayer) during the hours of the night, fearing the Hereafter and hoping for the Mercy of his Lord (like one who disbelieves)? Say: “Are those who know equal to those who know not?” It is only men of understanding who will remember (i.e. get a lesson from Allah’s Signs and Verses).

I think at this junction, it will be better to act inline with what demmzy said

Is demmzy your daddy?

yazach:


Jazzakumullahu khaira may almighty Allah bless you with pious children

ameen and u too
may we meet in Jannah

yazach:


Can you clarify the question,
If you mean deleel in support, you can never see such a thing but if you mean deleel in opposite, the first page of suratu li muminum is more than enough proof just try to understand the verses using kutubu tafaasir

Baarakallahu fiikum

Let me quote the verses because of some ignorants like the one quoting me

Allah says in Quran when he explained the qualities of a true believer one of which is :

5. And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts, from illegal sexual acts)

6. Except from their wives or that their right hands possess, for then, they are free from blame;

7. But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors;

He stated clearly in verse 7 that whoever seeks beyond that are transgressor. How then will an ignorant says some scholars say blablabla and concluded that it is because of useless reasons when he sees a clear cut evidence

well said,I also got some Hadiths that are against it.
Barakalahu fihkun