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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by sherifhflo: 2:58pm On May 18, 2017
In as much as the OP might have a point or two, it doesn't mean you hav the fact as you rightly said.

All I can see is a medical doctor trying to defend on of his own, at the same time claiming to be objective.

The husband was on radio today, giving accounts of what happened.

After he hung up, a listener called and shared her horrific experience in the hands of a doctor in a big hospital in PH. She was almost killed until she caused a scene and packed her things, moved to another hospital where the procedure was done for her.

Also what I see here is that, the health sector, unfortunately is not immune to the decadence that has ravaged the moral fabric of naija.

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by carinmom(f): 3:23pm On May 18, 2017
LagosismyHome:
Would have been easier to read if the author took summarisation classes seriously.....gezz see the length

However i see some valid point here especially Nigerian women and the phobia for CS... this notion of they must deliver like a Hebrew woman yet how do they know how Hebrew women delivered ... I know 3 friends one doctor self all in nigeria , who were advised earlier on to do CS and they said never it must be natural and in those 3 cases the baby and mother died

This CS phobia has caused so many avoidable death where the blame is passed to the doctors unfairly . Rest in peace . Sad cry

This is exactly what is happening in Naija, someone I know almost lost her life because of phobia for cs, she bled postpartum and had to be admitted in the hospital for days to be transfused. When my baby was delivered through CS you need to see how my sisters were crying because they were afraid I would lose my life in the process.

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Nweike1: 4:49pm On May 18, 2017
nice write up sir. I am a consultant OBGYN and the owner of the hospital was one of my ogas during residency. He is well respected and a fellow of the royal college. Even in the government hospital where I trained, he has always been regarded as one of the most knowledgeable, skillful and hard working, managing high risk cases that other consultants are running away from.
As such I dont believe he or his doctors would be negligent in His his private hospital. Hypertensive disorders especially preeclampsia/eclampsia remain the third leading cause of maternal death globally. However, my only criticism is that for high risk cases, if the patient/relations are not willing to comply with your management or facilities and manpower lacking, it's better to refer to a tertiary government center. Run awau from litigation and being scandalized by the social media/press

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Valobit(f): 5:08pm On May 18, 2017
dominique:


The first thing a medic would do the moment an hypotensive woman in labour is brought into their ward is to get the baby out ASAP. Are you saying that the doctors wouldn't have suggested a ceasarian section to be carried out on the deceased the moment she was brought in? Why did it take the husband four days before agreeing to do a C-section? This is a specialist hospital we are talking about, even quacks should know how dicy the situation is.

The husband obviously refused CS, most likely because wife delivered 2 kids without CS. The hospital should have asked the patient to leave his hospital.

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by drcynthia(f): 5:12pm On May 18, 2017
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Onegai(f): 5:15pm On May 18, 2017
keepingmum:
Pre-eclampsia is a VERY SERIOUS life threatening ailment that poses a significant risk to the life of mother and baby therefore should be attended to with urgency.
Keeping a patient with Pre-eclampsia for more than 24hrs without treatment (most likely CS) is tantamount to manslaughter! !! Most definitely negligence and in my world, you will not only loose your medical licence to practice, you ll also be looking at a referral to the CPS for criminal charges.
Maternal mortality is very high in Nigeria and a large contributing factor is negligence and the itk/inability to listen to patients by doctors/nurses as well as the ability to learn from mistakes AND the stupid risks that doctors often take with patients lives
Nigerian doctors/nurses are arrogant, unwilling to learn nor listen and like to play god over someone's life.

Unfortunately, a lot of Nigerian women refuse to consent to CS, even after they have been told it could save their lives. One told my sibling "my pastor and I and my husband have been praying, please give it more time". Luckily a nurse was the neighbour to her mum (a retired nurse) so they called the mum and she got on the phone and cussed out her daughter, her husband and the useless pastor till crying, the lady agreed to the CS. Had she died, her husband will wail "Naija Dr's killed my wife and pikin". Her mum employed the entire dictionary of Yoruba swear words and curses to get it through her daughter's thick skull the gravity of her situation.
You have never had to leave a delivery room because your hand was itching to slap the mor.on defiantly refusing CS and praying for a miracle whilst losing valuable time.
Nigerians will tell you they don't have money to pay for antenatal before 6 months so they will use one "neighborhood nurse/maternity clinic" but they have budgeted money for the Naming Ceremony afterwards. When things go bad and they are rushed to GH or LUTH, it remains to blame Doctors. There was even one popular case on this NL where they blamed Dr's and I found out the truth, it was the lady's negligence (which is why I can never donate any money again). See the blame her family were heaping on the Dr's in an attempt to garner sympathy and money for her, when they knew she messed up. When I asked her supporters, they backtracked on the Medical Negligence angle quickly.

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by drcynthia(f): 5:18pm On May 18, 2017
Nweike1:
nice write up sir. I am a consultant OBGYN and the owner of the hospital was one of my ogas during residency. He is well respected and a fellow of the royal college. Even in the government hospital where I trained, he has always been regarded as one of the most knowledgeable, skillful and hard working, managing high risk cases that other consultants are running away from.
As such I dont believe he or his doctors would be negligent in His his private hospital. Hypertensive disorders especially preeclampsia/eclampsia remain the third leading cause of maternal death globally. However, my only criticism is that for high risk cases, if the patient/relations are not willing to comply with your management or facilities and manpower lacking, it's better to refer to a tertiary government center. Run awau from litigation and being scandalized by the social media/press
Exactly, it's better to refer to a tertiary institution when the patient refuses your treatment plan and Make the patient sign against medical advice.
May God continue to guide and protect us all.
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Valobit(f): 5:20pm On May 18, 2017
Rheality:
@OP ure very structural and analytical. But in In Efe voice; no vex oo OP. if na ur wife, sista or dota dis tin happen to, ur analysis for b like dis:
1. from d info provided, i tink d doctor(s), would hv abandoned d woman and ignored the husband in reprobation of his initial refusal to sign for CS (remember they r humans nd wld hv been angry at dis point). they'll b like: oga shebi we been tell u to sign u no gree. pls stop disturbing us we hv other patients to attend to.
2. Having observed d dangers of d hubby's refusal to sign, a professional doctor shld hv invited others like d deceased parents nd her parents in law to persuade d husband to do d needful or at least witness d extent of their effort.
3 We were told d woman died while being stretched out of the hospital. dont u tink there shld hv been a doctor accompanying dis woman from the moment she got to the stretcher all thru to the next point of medical attention? apparently there was no doctor around to do dat. with dis analysis, i also sense the doctors gave up on dis woman at some point.
4. we all know doctors hv a way of understanding the criticality of their patients medical conditions for which dey could give a range of period a patient can survive if a certain condition is not met. If dat is the case here, why didn't d doctors advice as appropriate?

Nigerian Doctors and Lawyers are d same kind of pple. Always using professional languages to cover up evil and circumvent real situations.

OP u can twist or tweak it the way u want but dont forget Nigerians are about the most intelligent pple on earth irrespective of our damn leadership challenges.

Just very soon, we will see hw it pans out.

RIP Ma.

I wasn't there, so I don't know the details. But I know this- CS is a taboo. People look down on women who gave birth through CS, citing laziness as the reason.
I'm quite sure they objected to CS. I know a senior doctor who gives patient the option to leave if they reject CS. With hindsight, the patient should have been referred to a tertiary centre. But one is not a psychic

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by franugo(m): 5:39pm On May 18, 2017
GREATESTPIANIST:

no mind am........... we go flog am
are u really a pianist?


RIP to d deceased
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Blecus: 5:40pm On May 18, 2017
If after 24hrs and the husband refused to consent for cs,the hospital should have referred her out to avoid what is happening now.
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Nobody: 6:16pm On May 18, 2017
Rip beauty cry
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by armadeo(m): 6:39pm On May 18, 2017
cao:
All these folks complaining that it's tl;dr...abeg sharrap, they didn't teach you how to skim through an article? It didn't occur to you to at least read the emboldened points? If it was someone writing about how to make money from a blog, you'll be the first one to read through an epistle faster than your eyes could comprehend. Shame no catch you? Abeg keep quiet, it's not by force to post your incompetence.

Sister abeg no vex.

Lol. You see where we are heading to in this country.
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by armadeo(m): 6:42pm On May 18, 2017
Valobit:


The husband obviously refused CS, most likely because wife delivered 2 kids without CS. The hospital should have asked the patient to leave his hospital.


I swear refer straight. No need for long story.
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by coolcatty: 7:59pm On May 18, 2017
Mophasa:


Demented atheist spotted

Death is inevitable and as a follower of christ I have to wish a special place of rest at the bossom of father Abraham in high heavens

And when it's my time to exit this sinful world, I wish to be in the same place too

You need christ seriously, think about it


chief you are not a christian.....at best you are a churchgoer....nothing about you glorifies Christ.....i can bet my May salary on that.....you are just a bloody sunday sunday church attendee.......go through your post and realise that you are not like Christ in anyway.

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by ElPhoche(m): 9:00pm On May 18, 2017
mykl01:


You get time o!
Sometimes, it sickens me and I have to respond somehow.
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by DanseMacabre(m): 9:15pm On May 18, 2017
OP, quite an incisive, thought-provoking and analytic piece. But your love for sophistry/pedantry would make it boring to an average untrained reader, and make you almost forget it's an essay, not a literary piece.

If you put the effort, you'd make a good writer.


Sheet, such a lovely woman.

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by sameniceguy(m): 9:24pm On May 18, 2017
No..i don't agree to your assertion that the rate of CS is very high especially in Nigeria.
Statistics has shown that 80%of expectant mothers in the UK anf US prefer CS as the safest method of child birth
PastorAji:
hmmm my sister those are exceptional cases. but truth be told there should be something to do about it cos the rate of CS is getting on the increase especially in nigeria
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by vislabraye(m): 9:34pm On May 18, 2017
Afam4eva:
The OP's grammar does not change anything. The family of the deceased have presented their own case whether or not it was beclouded by emotions. It's left for the hospital to present their own side of the story so that we can weight both. The writer in am attempt to play the devil's advocate, without knowing the patient or the nitty gritty of what happened has decided what was wrong and invariably killed the young woman. You must be a vision seeing doctor. In your bid to protect your fellow incompetent doctors and yourself, since you're probably a quack, instead of doing your investigations, you want to use english and medical grammar to bamboozle us. I can see some people are already saying "It's true sha, the woman should have.." Taa, keep quiet. If you don't know what happened keep quiet.

I sensed arrogance in his tone.
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by ijayebonyi(f): 5:30am On May 19, 2017
Sad news everywhere
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by crypta007(m): 5:53am On May 19, 2017
I took pain to read the long defense write up for the doctors, if a proper check is done its obvious the OP is not in Nigeria to know what exactly transpires in our hospitals.

I was a victim and I have my story to tell. Although I Survived because God is faithful.
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by remikunle: 6:16am On May 19, 2017
RIPP
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Arielle: 11:52am On May 19, 2017
Great writing from the OP. It is such a joy to read a well crafted piece. I don't necessarily agree nor disagree with him. I'm one of those who has experienced an arrogant incompetent doctor (one of the best, we were told), who managed to leave a surgical implement in my husband's leg during surgery. It was an absolutely dreadful experience that left me with very little faith in the Nigerian health sector, including its personel. It brought home in a very personal way, the horror stories one reads or hears about in the media.
That said, I experienced pre-eclampsia when I had my son in 2005 so I know the delicacy of the condition. And I cannot speak enough of the absolute professionalism and care of the staff of National Hospital that cared for me when they had to carry out a CS to bring out my 30 weeks old baby. The great paradox of Nigeria.

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Boldstar(m): 4:11pm On May 19, 2017
There are always 3 sides to a story. A's side, B's side and the truth
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by chukel(m): 8:03pm On May 19, 2017
The husband also failed to tell the world his wife was a sickler and was advised before term for a CS considering the her medical history, tortuous obstetric history and ivf baby.
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by MarieSucre(f): 3:31pm On May 20, 2017
coolcatty:



Oga just type your RIP and get out......which lousy talk is heavens just got another Angels?.........so heavens just allowed some little kids to be motherless because it wants to gain an angel?

Niggggah just shut up jare

Bro why you dey vex.
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by GREATESTPIANIST: 11:24pm On May 20, 2017
franugo:

are u really a pianist?


RIP to d deceased
of course
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by franugo(m): 2:55am On May 21, 2017
GREATESTPIANIST:
of course

are u self taught?
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by GREATESTPIANIST: 6:02pm On May 21, 2017
franugo:


are u self taught?
yes........ but i had and still have instructors......... i wouldnt trade this for anything in the world..........do u play?
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by franugo(m): 7:52pm On May 21, 2017
GREATESTPIANIST:
yes........ but i had and still have instructors......... i wouldnt trade this for anything in the world..........do u play?

i'd love nothing more than to play an instrument, preferably guitar cause it's easily movable, but i love d piano too......don't have d cash for an instructor now, is there a way i can start learning till i'm able to get an instructor ?
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by GREATESTPIANIST: 4:56am On May 22, 2017
franugo:


i'd love nothing more than to play an instrument, preferably guitar cause it's easily movable, but i love d piano too......don't have d cash for an instructor now, is there a way i can start learning till i'm able to get an instructor ?
.. its good you have the money ......
enrol for classes....... its business......... people treat musicians like they dont need money... .comon........ its a source of livelihood. ...so just save for it......create time.....trust me.....its worth it........thanks
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by GREATESTPIANIST: 5:01am On May 22, 2017
franugo:


i'd love nothing more than to play an instrument, preferably guitar cause it's easily movable, but i love d piano too......don't have d cash for an instructor now, is there a way i can start learning till i'm able to get an instructor ?
On the other hand, there lots of tutorials on musical instruments......but you would still need someone to put you through for a start........

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