aribisala0:
Receive massive revenue for 30 years from 1970?

You are young

In 1983 Nigeria was broke. Buhari too over governent on 31 December nd one of the first things he did was suspend the 3rd mainland bridge
In 1972 pil was $3.60 a barrel it was after the 1973 crisis that oil became $12 a barrel by 1974 when we started to have a windfall. This idea that there was a long period of oil wealth is just false.Why not do alittle research

Later in 1987 Babangida resurrected it and completed it in 1991.

Tell us the projects that you claim were done with this MASSIVE REVENUE?

I can tel you two the National stadium and National theatre. They are rotting away and have made no impact on the economy.

Baba whether there was little or no money the fact remains that the available was pumped into Lagos. That is why we say Lagos is the 1st according to Nigerian standards and not global. It is all relative.

Odingo1:

Lagos where able to do that because they have one of the highest allocation from FG, tax returns from its population which occur as a result of FG monopoly federal presence in lagos.
Why is it that SW always object any attempt to have viable sea port in Niger delta , and dredging of River Niger so that Onitsha River port can re-open again.Do you know that Onitsha have a viable River port before the civil war,even the colonial masters met the river port when they came.
Every year the FG politicians will use dredging of river Niger to siphon money, Amaechi and co have started it this year.
Can Nigeria allow Enugu to have a standard international airport with consulates for visa processing and River port in Onitsha, one standard sea port in SS and second Niger bridge.
This are the federal presence we are talking about in lagos,
Viable Sea ports
Viable International airport
Oil headquarters
consulates
Bank headquarters
Let the SE/SS have only three of the above,the population of lagos will deflate like a leaking tube.

Emotional rubbish there are plenty of sensible alternatives to seaports in Lagos. Like I said Lagos State is building another one or is it two.
If you are talking of federaal presence what of Ekiti and Ondo and Osun states

Why can't there be a seaport in Ondo State the state with the longest coastline in the country. There could be another in BAyelsa and Akwa Ibom.There is no need to undertake risky dredging without first exhausting sensible options

Oil headquarters is not a government matter? That is the business of the oil company to decide the same applies to consulates
Afterall there is A consulate of Saudi Arabia in Kano.No one can dictate that rthan they must have their embassy in Abuja

All those things did not come about by law or decree.

You sound like the bitter ugly girl saying
Let my rival's chest be flat
let her yansh disappear
let crawcraw cover her face a

Then all those fine cars that park outsiide her house will disapear and they will start parking outside mine.

Maduawuchukwu:

Baba whether there was little or no money the fact remains that the available was pumped into Lagos. That is why we say Lagos is the 1st according to Nigerian standards and not global. It is all relative.

PUmped

How much wsa pumped out of Lagos ? Where did the money come from .

Was Lagos a net contributor or recipient from the federation account?

darfay:


The article is very correct. in Nigeria even after living in ondo and schooling in Benin you must come to Lagos for ordinary white collar job
Every city in the countries you mentioned have their competitive advantage Chicago is as big a financial centre as NYC while Texas is a good rival to California. In Germany Frankfurt,Berlin,Hamburgetc
The article is spot on no excuse for Lagos dominating a large country like Nigeria

Modified my Yoruba brothers are getting this. it is not about Lagos being Yoruba land it is about how it is affecting the other 35 states Yoruba states inclusive

I don't understand you! So Lagos should stop developing and materializing the great foresights of her leaders and wait for other states with unserious leaders to catch up? Mba no!

lx3as:


I don't understand you! So Lagos should stop developing and materializing the great foresights of her leaders and wait for other states with unserious leaders to catch up? Mba no!

That is the same kind of thinking you see in all these Nollywood movies why should my brother send his children to school in US while I am here tapping palmwine.Afterall our father used our "commonwealth"(Thatis Afam4eva s word) to train him

California one US state has an economy bigger than the last 30 states combined.

We can say it is a problem but to blame government especially the FG is just wrong

Take a look at this USA list of states and their GDPs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_Gross_State_Product_(GSP)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_Gross_State_Product_(GSP)

IdeyFindWife:


Lagos this, Lagos that!

When everybody will not think, chart a prodigous self-determination chart for the future of their state/people and actually follow up with the right policy, people and practices for that!

Which one of all our states is not endowed? Nasarrawa is sitting on a goldmine of mineral resources yet they're crawling. Benue's grasshopper-brained governor is busy buying wheelbarrows for his bastard children? What we're all doing to ourselves is more than what any Lagos is doing to anybody. The NigerDelta had their prestigious son as president, enjoyed a lot of payoffs from the Oil Companies over the decades, filled NDDC with their people on top of Amnesty Programme and juicy positioning in the NNPC yet at the end of the day, it's still blame-laying and finger-pointing, who's fooling who?

People will just fiind something to bitch about and cause trouble with, shm

haaaaba,,, don't kill me with laff..Benue governor should not just see Ur comment

youngbest:


Lagos was capital of Nigeria from 1914 till 1991, this period also encompasses Nigeria's oil boom, naturally Lagos benefited most, also making Lagos the first official capital of Nigeria.

Calabar was the capital before 1914 this was before amalgamation or independence, I don't know how you expected them to have the same opportunities as a city that witnessed modern industrialization.

Story

The British invested in Lagos because they were more welcomed there.

They also went to other parts of Nigeria but they were either killed or maimed

They went to lokoja, Kano , calabar, port harcourt etc

But the then Oba of Lagos king Kosoko gave Lagos island to the British as land and that was basically the driver for economic growth.

Akwa ibom has the biggest stadium in Nigeria why did they not build seaport or airport.

logica:
Sebi you were talking about viable airports. All the "renovation" work she did nko?

She mess the renovation work up but renovation work wont make an airports viable,is the FG policy that will make it work, not how beautiful the airport is looking.

Maduawuchukwu:


Oga Abuja cannot become like Lagos in 26 short years. Lagos was Nigeria's Capital for about 77 years and received massive revenue for 30 years beginning in 1970. Abuja was a pure virgin land about 3 decades ago. But have u been to Abuja? I live in KD and am relocating to Abuja next year as is now the norm. Most youths in KD and the north are going to Abuja now. Many companies are setting up in Abuja. Abuja is developing satelite towns at a rapid pace. Channels has moved a major part of its operations to Abuja, so to has AIT and silverbird. As time is going it will become more pronounced. Check Abuja in the next 20 years and see whether they won't be in the 1st 2 of biggest Naija economies.

Every since Nigeria started democracy no PDP rule in Lagos and Lagos had been lucky to have good governors because the people have high expectations.

If every state has high expectations maybe improvement will come

aribisala0:


Emotional rubbish there are plenty of sensible alternatives to seaports in Lagos. Like I said Lagos State is building another one or is it two.
If you are talking of federaal presence what of Ekiti and Ondo and Osun states

Why can't there be a seaport in Ondo State the state with the longest coastline in the country. There could be another in BAyelsa and Akwa Ibom.There is no need to undertake risky dredging without first exhausting sensible options

Oil headquarters is not a government matter? That is the business of the oil company to decide the same applies to consulates
Afterall there is A consulate of Saudi Arabia in Kano.No one can dictate that rthan they must have their embassy in Abuja

All those things did not come about by law or decree.

You sound like the bitter ugly girl saying
Let my rival's chest be flat
let her yansh disappear
let crawcraw cover her face a

Then all those fine cars that park outsiide her house will disapear and they will start parking outside mine.

Government policy towards lagos is responsible for lagos been the bride.
For the ugly girl self she have right to protest now,na only other beautiful girls waka come
If four girls are walking on the road and only one is always been toasted by the boys wont the other three protest,FG must reduce federal presence in lagos if they want other states to develop

aribisala0:
Nothing to do with Gazetting? Have you ever imported anything into Nigeria? How old are you? The Ports in PH were used during the 70s but the capacity is low and at that time there were no roads out of PH capable of handling what happens in Lagos. The Aba -PH road was completed in 1979-80 and during Shagari's government the Port was busy but Nigeria has trebled in population since . The sensible place for a port should be on the sea with a road network that makes Ondo and Akwa Ibom a better choice. Ondo is even the best with the longest coastline but was scuttled because of politics.
The truth is PH port was designed primarily for export i.e to export coal from Enugu.

The main roads serving Lagos Port are the road to Ibadan which goes north and Benin which goes east. If there was a link road to the NE from the SS that would make any SS port viable but there is not. Do you know Niger imports through Nigeria.They prefer Lagos,why?

Ships used to go to PH but they stopped going there because they were losing money.Ther is no gazette stopping anyone importing through PH

If you have ever shipped you will know that from Europe it is cheaper to Accra,Lome Cotonou and Lagos in that order. Because of demand shippers will offer a better deal for Lagos than PH importers also found that Lagos is generally a bigger market for them and gradually the PH slipped into disuse fro individual shippers. The other problem was it is an inland Port and many ships were being boarded by criminal meaning higher insurance costs which were passed on to the shipper.

If any shipper decides to go to PH no law stops him or her but by the tie a shipper is getting to PH the one in Lagos has unloaded and on his way back.

And you think the FG can do anything to address the crap you wrote up there?
Are SS pets not used for arms and other selected supplies again?
It's all politics.
If it worked before, it should work again if we want

Odingo1:

Government policy towards lagos is responsible for lagos been the bride.
For the ugly girl self she have right to protest now,na only other beautiful girls waka come
If four girls are walking on the road and only one is always been toasted by the boys wont the other three protest,FG must reduce federal presence in lagos if they want other states to develop

Na protest go make de fine?
Babe wey wowo go wowo for life .She must find anoda wey to attract man.

The truth is that Nigeria is a poor country and the FG does not like spending money if it can avoid it so you see the roads leading to the port how bad they are. Even cash call for oil ventures is wahala. Constructing a port is just the half of it what about the roads and infrastructure to go with it.The only time the FG had that kind of money was after the 1991 Iraqi-Kuwait war and theyy chose to spend it on Abuja. Lagos developed organically and was never a planned city like Abuja . Much of what was spent in Lagos had no benefit to the natives and when the FG left is just there rotting away. The national Stadium,THeatre,Federal Secretariat, 1004 FESTAC Town

Lagos state has been borrowing and is attracting investment.
The Niger Delta should learn that there will be consequences for their actions. No one is going to invest in a port in a region where they are so belligerent. Whether or not their cause is right investors do not care.
So there will be a port in Lekki and another in Badagry ,I am sorry for Ibaka but think about it even if there is a port there who will use it? A lot of work needs to be done to make it viable and I am hopefu thatt this new rail project linking up NE and Akwa Ibom will do the magic > Hopefuly we can deevelop friendlier relationship with Cameroon and grow business in that direction too

Afam4eva:

We actually copied that type of governance from the British. As much as there are some other notable cities in Britain, it is because the country is developed and just about every part will have a city. But the gap between London and other cities is nothing but astronomical which is similar between Lagos and other Nigerian cities. it also rings true in other British colonies such as Ghana, Kenya, Tanzania etc.

True Talk... I noticed that a country like France has got very popular cities aside Paris, like Masseil, Monaco and Toulose or Germany that has its capital, Berlin been far less popular compared to Munich, Hamburg or Dortmund

quickly:


Every since Nigeria started democracy no PDP rule in Lagos and Lagos had been lucky to have good governors because the people have high expectations.

If every state has high expectations maybe improvement will come

Lagos has had OK and not exceptional governance. Lagos already had a headstart in 1999; the industries were in Lagos, the port was there and the people were there so to generate revenue was very easy. There were so many low-hanging fruits and all that was required was the diversification of income and not economy as the economy was already diversified. Given this advantage Lagos has had nothing spectacular. It is just like El-rufai saying that he was a spectacular FCT minister when all he had was enormous revenue. Why can't he repeat the same feat in KD?

Maduawuchukwu:

Lagos has had OK and not exceptional governance. Lagos already had a headstart in 1999; the industries were in Lagos, the port was there and the people were there so to generate revenue was very easy. There were so many low-hanging fruits and all that was required was the diversification of income and not economy as the economy was already diversified. Given this advantage Lagos has had nothing spectacular. It is just like El-rufai saying that he was a spectacular FCT minister when all he had was enormous revenue. Why can't he repeat the same feat in KD?

Industries were in Lagos why?? Why were they not in Ekiti or Enugu? They were in Lagos because of governaance.

The Ikeja industrial hub did not happen by luck.

It is spectatular in Nigeria .If it was so easy why is everyone not doing ?

Why is it possible for one governor in Delta to STEAL hundreds of millions of dollar.

Lagos governance has beed outstanding

Maduawuchukwu:

Lagos has had OK and not exceptional governance. Lagos already had a headstart in 1999; the industries were in Lagos, the port was there and the people were there so to generate revenue was very easy. There were so many low-hanging fruits and all that was required was the diversification of income and not economy as the economy was already diversified. Given this advantage Lagos has had nothing spectacular. It is just like El-rufai saying that he was a spectacular FCT minister when all he had was enormous revenue. Why can't he repeat the same feat in KD?

Where does nigeria export oil from ? is it not Port Harcout Port in Onne and the One in Calabar, What of Warri Port?

Lagos advantage is good leaders starting from Oba Kosoko till Ambode. If oba kosoko had killed all the british foregners who came to lagos them maybe they will have gone to cotonou.

Is not about how much is earned but what you do with what you earn

Just like a man making 1m every month and he blows everything in club
while another man invests it.

Governace is the real problem. Is it not in the Niger Delta that ibori is celebrated like a hero?

vodkat:


Where does nigeria export oil from ? is it not Port Harcout Port in Onne and the One in Calabar, What of Warri Port?

Lagos advantage is good leaders starting from Oba Kosoko till Ambode. If oba kosoko had killed all the british foregners who came to lagos them maybe they will have gone to cotonou.

Is not about how much is earned but what you do with what you earn

Just like a man making 1m every month and he blows everything in club
while another man invests it.

Governace is the real problem. Is it not in the Niger Delta that ibori is celebrated like a hero?

First and foremost Nigeria imports far more than it exports so the Lagos ports which are primarily for imports make far more than the Niger Delta ports and secondly Ibori worship is bad but is Tinubu the thief not worshipped in Lagos?

aribisala0:
Industries were in Lagos why?? Why were they not in Ekiti or Enugu? They were in Lagos because of governaance.

The Ikeja industrial hub did not happen by luck.

It is spectatular in Nigeria .If it was so easy why is everyone not doing ?

Why is it possible for one governor in Delta to STEAL hundreds of millions of dollar.

Lagos governance has beed outstanding

You have come again. Most industries in Lagos came during the military era oil boom due to over concentration on Lagos and naturally they will spread to areas around it like Ikeja due to proximity. Awolowo was not the only one to establish industrial layouts. Saurdana did to but due to centralize military rule it died while that of Lagos lived on. If the military did not focus on Lagos the Ikeja layout would have died just as Ibadan industries and Kaduna's died.

Partnerbiz:

Guy stop spewing tosh. Lagos had only cumulative advantage nothing more.
BTW why is everything law this law that. Seems you still a sophomore cos you exude it.

Loool... No need to hate ehn..

I've given my own facts from the field I can relate with best, and I based my conclusion on these facts. I haven't seen you give any sir... So rather than insult, why not give a reasonable argument, or better still, just shut up.

Guestlander:


You need to save your energy for the herculean task ahead of you. You won't overtake Lagos by chatting garbage on the internet. You will not do it by crying and sulking like a child who got his toy taken away. Get off nairaland and start working, put your yam legs to work.

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sir, I really commend ur sense of understanding..u re indeed a very sound mind... u shouldn't be wasting ur time exchanging words with a compressed brain from the flat heads region..

rayopt:



I really hate to quote ppl but dat text in bold? lyk seriously? bro u need to spend more time in school tho' . . .*an heartfelt advise tho



this piece z really educative. . .

I just hope dat Nigerians can reason together without tribalistic perceptions. . .nothing encourages development like the chemistry between intelligent leaders and intelligent followers. . .

GodBless ya if you understand that!


A billion excuse is not worth a success story and stating the reasons for a job done is not as interesting as getting the job done. .

Your comment was not even comprehensive ,yet you advise someone to go back to school
With ppl like u in existence what do we need school for ?

Bobby808:
Who is this riff raff with alot of loossed brain nuts? Just mentioned the names of governors who have very serious corrupt cases as that Tinubu and Fashola since independence? If not that Tinubu is among the world worst corrupt people, why should he own more than three quaters of the entire Lagos state as well as your very self? If you trust yourself, tell Gbajamiala to support the movement of all headquarters of all the oil companies to their operational areas and see if that Lagos will be the same.

What is this one saying biko

protocoll:
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sir, I really commend ur sense of understanding..u re indeed a very sound mind... u shouldn't be wasting ur time exchanging words with a compressed brain from the flat heads region..

I appreciate your kind words sir.

Let us adopt fiscal federalism, that end everything

aribisala0:
The seaport in Lagos is a business investment. In the same way that the LNG project in Bonny is and also other oil installations in the Niger Delta.
It was started by the British in the 1880s and was profitable from day one

So that for me is not development but exploitation. Later the Nigerian FG came took over and started exploiting the resource whilst to date they pay no derivation like they do for oil and even refuse tto repair the roads that are destroyed by the heavy trcks.

The real question is how much money net has Nigeria made from the port in Lagos over the years and how does that compare with what it has put back into Lagos

Loud it!

The answer is nothing. And d whole country is benefiting from d money. Customs generate 100's of billions every year, yet the roads in apapa are patched by d states govt. No infrastructure or even 13% of d ports profit. Lagos has to borrow billions to build it's own bridges, transport systems and future. FG development my ass.

Guestlander:


I appreciate your kind words sir.

also I did admire how you handled your argument and presented your points - on a lighter note I found both of you entertaining. However, in my opinion I'd like to state w.r.t the topic its quite 50-50 situation. Federal Government presence is a huge catalyst in a state's development esp related to Seaports and Airports as evident in South Africa were 5 airports & 6 ports contributes to spread of development (including IGR) in the different regions of the country. But the state government should be responsible for good governance and creating an enabling environment that attracts investment. The visionary leadership and continuity of LASG leaders plays a very key role for their present status

GrandGarcon:
Another nonsense! We are not taking about all parts developing at the same rate, it is to punnish Biafrans that the country was set up like this, all the sea ports in Nigeria except the lagos one are not functional, where in the east or in the niger delta will you find a true international airport? In those countries, airports are built when you have the means, but in Nigeria it is based on politics. Abegi forget that thing.

Dude can u just shut up for ones and let those with high IQ and better level of reasoning to discuss appropriately and constructively.
take your Biafran rubbish to a biafran discuss topic

Guestlander:


Whatever rocks your boat. When your judgment is clouded with ethnic jingoism you tend to see everything that way.

My brother may God bless you for your constructive and ethical reasoning. I wish u avoided that daft IPod yoot. you earn my respect.
pls kindly follow back

akoko11:
Let us adopt fiscal federalism, that end everything

Dt would be ideal. Fiscal federalism and a true capitalist economy. Not state govts owning everything. Govts are not good business managers. The US govt and state govt owns no part in all their booming industries. Compete-succeed or die.

Odingo1:

Aviation minister don't have the power to build a sea port or airport,the budget do so,Stella Odua only bought bullet proof vehicles at inflated prices,I don't really understand what you are saying because it doesn't have any connection with the topic we are discussing.

Only bought bullet proof vehicles?
Only?
Then you wouldn't mind explaining the billions of naira she also embezzled while Minister of Aviation. Sea port or no sea port, she had a very important task. She was tasked with rehabilitating 22 airports across the country. You know what that could have done for Nigeria? Instead, as low as 15% or even 0% of the projects were completed after spending loads of money. 20%-50% was cut from the money that was supposed to be allocated for contractors. The dilapidated pothole covered Enugu airport was not fixed. Loads of money was spent on MM int. airport but only a paint job could be shown for it, meanwhile toilets in the airport don't work properly and the airport is hotter than inside of a bakery.

juman:


He was the governor that started the huge tax collection for lagos.
He built Marwa Gardens.


Also you can read from this:


http://dailypost.ng/2013/04/28/ismael-olanrewaju-oguntoyibo-buba-marwa-the-man-his-past-and-his-options/

Funny you should mention Marwa Gardens as an achievement. I lived in Marwa Gardens for a while - its a small expensive estate, not subsidized housing.

Ajalekoko76:
Jealousy.... Lagos is developed by right set of Governors,good and workable policies and the people. I wonder y the writer is calling on Federal Government to make law,policies to develop other regions /state as if there was a special law/policies dat developed Lagos. Lagos development is historical and based on right machineries that drive Lagos. Thanks Chief Obafemi Awolowo that produced Alhaji Lateef Jakande,thanks Pa Adesanya and others that produced Senator Bola Ahmed Tinubu,thanks to Tinubu that produced Fashola,thanks to Tinubu again that produce Ambode. Lagos development has a strategic plan that are being followed /carried out by successive leaders.

Obviously people who blame Lagos for the woes of their states are either tribalists, functional illiterates, or both. What brings development? Infrastructure is one, but more importantly, it is things like a viable legal framework, sensible land use policies and security. I was listening to someone in private equity a few weeks back talk about why they would only attempt PPP in Lagos and nowhere else in Nigeria. Apparently, Lagos is the only state in Nigeria that is willing to put teeth to these things by passing legislation that makes their investments safe. Lagos also has a history of actually honoring contracts and is probably the only state that actively encourages ADR practices like arbitration and mediation. Hence you would always see things like Dangote refinery and LFTZ cos the state has demonstrated seriousness, as opposed to say a state like Rivers where a lot of MOUs were arbitrarily cancelled cos Wike didnt want anything by Amaechi to flourish (which in my opinion is childish politics).

You cannot have development with insecurity - plain and simple. You honestly think Oil and Gas companies enjoy burning money from Lagos? I have people in that industry and if you hear stories of what they go through - senseless disruptions to work by millitants solely for extortion, you would know how messed up the N.D region is. As of today there are unsubstantiated rumours that Mobil is gradually pulling out of Nigeria and is selling a large part of its stake to NIPCO. Even Rivers with its almighty Port Harcourt is governed by a proper thug and we would be here hailing him cos he is PDP and we hate APC.

A couple of years ago, I was in a business review meeting with top dogs at a top firm I used to work in and everyone was flaying Legal for not perfecting titles on a lot of the firm's properties across the country. Guees what? Outside Lagos, many state governors have not been signing CofOs for years. All it takes is a simple bloody signature!!! But laziness would not let them be great. And we would all come here to talk rubbish when investors cannot even secure ordinary documentation to their properties.

Lagos is the only state in Nigeria with a slightly serious civil service. As far back as Tinubu's time, the state has been running on Oracle ERP - hence nothing like ghost workers like you find in other states and even with the effing federal government. I dare you to go on LinkedIn and look for the profiles of a lot of Permanent secretaries, commissioners and DGs, and you would find that a lot of these guys had a fantastic track-record in the private sector before coming into public sector. I have met Fola Arthur-Worrey (former Attorney General) and Akintunde Oyebode (DG of LSETF) one on one, and those guys blew my mind. I legit know boys dumping bank work to go and work for Lagos state, and people would be here talking crap. Lagos is the only state in Nigeria trying to implement a proper HR system in place with L&, Performance Management and Comp&Ben, and still people from states with governors that are still battling ghost workers would come here to be talking nonsense.

And oh, for a lot of people blaming FG and Colonial masters, please note that the entire Ikeja and Ilupeju was not part of Lagos, it was developed by Awolowo as the industrial base for the old western region. Heck, outside Apapa, Yaba, V.I, Lagos Island and Ikoyi, where else would you find traces of either the Federal government of the colonial masters?