Abu Zola:

Viaro is blind, so you believe that writing were artificial. Too bad.

Big boss, what's gwan?

'Even if ALLAH had sent down to them _{(jews and xtrians and other disbelievers)} Angels and the dead had spoken to them and Allah had gathered together all things before their eyes,
they would not have believed unless Allah willed, but most of them behave ignorantly'
Quran 6:111

"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed" ~ Galatians 1:8.

uplawal:

@viaro,nothing strikes me and nothing rings a bell,its up to u if u wanna believe,Allah knows at the end of the day who will believe and who will not believe, hence u believe is one,ure a muslim,

madam uplawal, viaro is not a muslim, and allah knows nothing other than what you guys like to put into his mouth. I was hoping you would be able to explain why the parents of the said boy refused any meticulous dermatologic examination - but you're evading that one and trying to turn viaro into a muslim? Huh??

Allah has even said it that even if he sends down angels to u you wont,so why the fuss?

Hang on, missus. . . allah sends down no angel, trust me - muhammad only tells you about angels, especially one of 'em whose eyes he slapped to blindness!   Apart from that, Luke 16 says that even if someone were raised from the dead to preach the Gospel to you guys, you still won't believe - and I don't require any muhammad slapping any angels blind to see the analogy.

but me i just pity u people on the day of judgement,u will gnash your teeth etc

Oh give it up already - who's gonna gnash teeth on allah's day other than muslims? BTW, have you thought about your place as a woman in allah's paradise? Which of the men would have you for his harem of seventy virgins, huh?

davidylan:

This is really silly. The "signs of inflammation" are most of the time NOT VISUAL. However the mother of the boy accurately describes the fact that the boy undergoes severe inflammatory reaction "ONLY WHEN THE SIGNS ALLEGEDLY APPEAR". Read them again -

The symptoms described here are most likely serious pains, itching and fever . . . all signs of an inflammatory reaction!

now i know you have a serious problem. What is the sign of swelling if it is not visual? Is it audial?
The fact remains that a baby's skin is more susceptible to swelling than adults

Let me expose a fundamenal flaw fraud in your thinking process. All this while you have been attempting to argue along several mutually exclusive points.
First you claim the baby's skin is not swollen. Then you claim the swells cannot be seen because the pix are fuzzy. Pls pick one so i will know where to hammer the last nail on your coffin

The videos on the web were not taken by "respectable international news agencies". They were fotos taken by family, friends, villagers and circulated around. Viaro posted a link where the boy was supposed to be tested in Moscow but mysteriously the family cancelled the trip because the signs refused to appear again for the 2 weeks they were away from Dagestan.

Please enough of lying!

are you denying that the story was not covered by international news angencies or that theses agencies did not take any photos or videos at all? Am waiting for you to tell me these news agencies used pin hole cameras

the_seeker:

are you denying that the story was not covered by international news angencies or that theses agencies did not take any photos or videos at all? Am waiting for you to tell me these news agencies used pin hole cameras

Which 'international newsagencies' covered the story in an objective manner? Why is it that when an objective examination was to be carried out, the parents refused? How come a meeting between high clerics and the parents was suddenly cancelled? Have you ever heard of Pallywood?

viaro's response was so hilarious i had to take a second look at this . . .

uplawal:

@viaro,nothing strikes me and nothing rings a bell,its up to u if u wanna believe,Allah knows at the end of the day who will believe and who will not believe, hence u believe is one,ure a muslim,Allah has even said it that even if he sends down angels to u you wont,so why the fuss?but me i just pity u people on the day of judgement,u will gnash your teeth etc

Angels dont exist in islam (except the ones that mysteriously bear Jewish names and are found in the bible!) . . . allah has NEVER sent one before (except the one mohammad claimed to have seen who also bears a jewish name and is from the bible!).

Allah says . . . allah says . . .

Viaro are u a male or female, am confused.

David i pity u, you can change plz adapt the religio of peace and all is yours

the_seeker:

now i know you have a serious problem. What is the sign of swelling if it is not visual? Is it audial?

Now it looks like we are in silly season.

1. The redness on the skin on the baby is a clear sign of inflammation.

2. I gave at least 3 symptoms the mother clearly indicated the baby had - that point to inflammation.

3. Sometimes the signs of swelling are not visual dumbo . . . you cant see the bronchi of an asthmatic patient swell when he/she is having an attack now can you?

the_seeker:

The fact remains that a baby's skin is more susceptible to swelling than adults

What is this meant to tell us? This is NOT true.

the_seeker:

Let me expose a fundamenal flaw fraud in your thinking process. All this while you have been attempting to argue along several mutually exclusive points.
First you claim the baby's skin is not swollen. Then you claim the swells cannot be seen because the pix are fuzzy. Pls pick one so i will know where to hammer the last nail on your coffin

you're confused. Viaro is the one arguing that the baby's skin does not show a clear indication of swelling. My point is that you CANNOT EVEN TELL whether the skin of the baby shows swelling because the pictures are surprisingly NOT CLEAR! Look at the other internet pictures, they are very clear, high res images . . . why are those of the "miracle baby" so fuzzy and distant? Is someone hiding something?

the_seeker:

are you denying that the story was not covered by international news angencies or that theses agencies did not take any photos or videos at all? Am waiting for you to tell me these news agencies used pin hole cameras

I am not denying it . . . simply telling you that coverage by international news agencies does not validate the claims on the baby. Apparently you never heard of the balloon boy case . . . it was carried LIVE by CNN, ABC, FOX . . . all day. Turned out to be a total hoax!

The photos were NOT taken by international agencies . . . that fact is made clear by the lack of any copyright identity on the photos.

Check internet photos taken by GENUINE international media, they always have their copyright on it. We are not fools here pls.

Abu Zola:

Viaro are u a male or female, am confused.

David i pity u, you can change plz adapt the religio of peace and all is yours

Sorry i dont want 72 virgins.

Not virgin

Abu Zola:

Not virgin

what else is mine in allah? suicide bombing, martyrdom, lying, hate, violence?

@seeker, david is lost and cannot be set aright just leave him, even if u continue to preach to him for thousand years, his heart is seal.

The similitude the baby writing to fake one is that of red paint and blood, how can it be co equal to blood.

Abu Zola:

The similitude the baby writing to fake one is that of red paint and blood, how can it be co equal to blood.

How? It's Pallywood - that's how!

davidylan:

I am not denying it . . . simply telling you that coverage by international news agencies does not validate the claims on the baby. Apparently you never heard of the balloon boy case . . . it was carried LIVE by CNN, ABC, FOX . . . all day. Turned out to be a total hoax!

He didn't remember that one. . . no. . . never. For them, as long as it seemed to have been covered by 'international newsagencies', nothing else is required - not even where the parents refused objective examination, and cancelled a meeting with high muslim clerics. Tell you what: allah hates to be examined, you know!

enough said. Wanna sleep  . I am tired of your lame arguements

the_seeker:

enough said. Wanna sleep  . I am tired of your lame arguements

I am tired of your lies too. Please get a book on inflammation while you're resting.

God bless you

Can anybody translate what was written on the child's leg? Or is Allah trying to pass a message nobody can understand?

Wonder what those terrorist wont do to polish their dented religion.

This is interesting. My advise to all muslims is that they should find out facts about things before coming here to decrease their credibility. I am a muslim and ofcourse, the normal thing s to believe this at first sight. However, I have seen pictures of similar things posted by others and ofcourse one begins to question. We should know that to convince people, you need to go te extra mile of knowing more than them. And as someone asked, I also want to know what verses of the quran that is. Not for bad belle purposes, but to kow maybe God was sending a particualr message to us.

Its funny how from mohammad to this Dagestani baby . . . allah's "signs" always seem to involve personal discomfort to the individual bearing the "sign". - Davidylan

David, this one you raised is not a point o . Remeber the pain Jesus Christ wnet through while he was being nailed? It was so much that he asked God why he has forsaken him? Dont even talk about personal discomfort here. Remember Job? While I am not likening this boy to a prophet, you should re-examine points before you raise them.

I advice muslims to be the best whereever they are, seek knowledge, and be very objective.

@Shdade

I dont think there should be any comparism with the pains Jesus felt and that of the child. The question is, if the signs is truly arabic; then what does it mean? If nobody can translate then the parents should take the poor child to the hospital so they can perform surgery. Why suffer the boy!

ayusman16:

@Shdade

I dont think there should be any comparism with the pains Jesus felt and that of the child. The question is, if the signs is truly arabic; then what does it mean? If nobody can translate then the parents should take the poor child to the hospital so they can perform surgery. Why suffer the boy!

Do you really care to know the meaning of the "inscription"? Should I assume you believe its divine, huh?

muhsin:

Do you really care to know the meaning of the "inscription"? Should I assume you believe its divine, huh?

Will you hurry up and read what is written there on the baby's body and tell us what verse of the koran it is?

cant believe nobdy can read d koranic verses. is it so confusing like islam itself? dumb miracle.

Why not go to the nearest mosque and quench ur delusion

Abu Zola:

Why not go to the nearest mosque and quench your delusion

U guys shd be able to provide d meaning of dat arabic quote

Abu Zola:

Why not go to the nearest mosque and quench your delusion

I'll rather burn in hell than step into a mosque.

So be it, then don't come and disturb us, u hear ?

Abu Zola:

So be it, then don't come and disturb us, u hear ?

ayusman16:

I'll rather burn in hell than step into a mosque.

then burn in hell you shall. For all eternity!

the_seeker:

then burn in hell you shall. For all eternity!

It is not for you to decide you pathetic terrorist. Followers of dumb powerless allah.

@Muhsin: Laa na dauka Muhsin sunan mata ne

Why all the evolutionary years being wasted here? . . . as mazaje has reiterated, will you guys hurry up and quote the chapter and verse in the quran where those marks on the baby's body can be found? What is all this dancing on ice about?

The messages simply mean "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 6:23"

And "Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth and the life, No one comes to the Father but by me."
John 14:6"

Also "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life.
John 3:16"

Now that the mesage has been translated. Can you Muslims Shelve your swords, bombs and guns and accept the true path to life. You still stand a chance today to be saved and be free from depression, hatred, hypocrisy, reproach, terrorist tendencies etc. You still stand a chance to be loved.

Shame on you and ur delusion