Iamwrath:
because Nigerians voted massively for MKO Abiola who was as at then the most prefered candidate , there was no bloodshed, no rigging, no ballot stealing , no murder , but the then Gen IBB refused to hand over , instead he jailed Abiola and Abiola was eventually poisoned / killed

Sapiosexuality:
If I may ask, is this what you heard and read or what you experienced?

Iamwrath:
Experience

Sapiosexuality:
Okay. Very good.

What was the situation in the North and other regions like?

Considering Abiola was a SWesterner and not Tofa, IBB's Candidate, how did it happen that there wasn't violence during or after the elections as we are used to in the north?

His vice was also a Muslim and I wonder how the Easterners and Southerners handled that considering their position on a Muslim-Muslim ticket. How did they exhibit fairness in response to his candidature?

Doesn't that portray the people then as more civilized and how is this consistent with the education realities and religious tolerance?

Is it that the media consciously or unconsciously left that out?

Don't mind my questions. I want to write on the subject tomorrow so I need every help I can get.

vicadex07:


Because everyone was tired of military rule and wanted democracy.

It would have been easier to cancel the elections without raising eyebrows if everything was disorganized, but citizens maintained decorum just to prove to the military that they are ripe for democracy.

Besides the military was brutal and abhors any form of public disruption or disorder back then so the people simply fell in line.

Its common sense psychology.

OmaniPadmeHum:

It was the first time that I saw Nigerian traders willingly reducing the cost of their commordities in the markets and shops. The contesting and voting of Abiola also led to the then common affordable "Abiola Commodities" e.g. Abiola Biscuit etc. This trend of naming many house hold goods like Biscuit, Milk, Soap, etc. lingered on for a while even after he died.

The Joy experienced was so much. People jubilated into the streets. I mean, practically everyone left their houses, running into the streets and jumping up and down. The next time I experienced such expression of joy and happiness by Nigerians was when it was confirmed that Abacha had died.

Based on experiences in Port Harcourt and Ibadan.

One recalls this advert also. Nostalgic and Epic.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t-YSSYKY0g0



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j6vVSZ7wiE

Sapiosexuality:
But the elections was still cancelled after everything. How is commonsense psychology when your post can't point at any special index suggesting the tag?

The election that brought Obasanjo had all the above you described. Everyone was tired of military rule and wanted democracy. Citizens also maintained a reasonable level of decorum.

12Monkeys:
June 12 is gone forever

After Obasabjo , June 12 died a natural death and is only celebrated on the pages of newspaper editorials.

vicadex07:


You are a dumbass idiot. You were crying that nobody replied your thread, now I know why.

U already have a preconceived notion for your useless questions.

If everyone wanted democracy and the military said no with guns blazing, who's fault is it?

Is it too hard for you to deduce that they decided to opt out in 1999 after the dynamics had changed and the odds were against them?

Ballmer:
Abiola was a huge philanthropist giving to muslin, Christian and every thing in sight. I personally believe if any Nigeria should embark on what he did back any election would always be a walkout. He related with everyone beat Tofa hands down even his own state.

It wasn't just about Nigeria being tired of the military, more about the man's capability n how he galvanized everyone without any true feeling left out. Abiola back then is what Dangote is right now the difference is the philanthropic difference btw them.

A Muslim that will sponsor Christian programs to the extent no Christian can compete. He definitely had the magic. I believe he would have been the most charismatic leader Nigeria ever had was made the president.

12Monkeys:
June 12 is gone forever

A date used by tinubu to hoodwink Yorubas into an unnecessary opposition under him even though obasanjo (a Yoruba man was in power)


It was thus natural to see June 12 die a natural death after Tinubu begin chop big time and it is important to note that June 12 was utilized as a sychological war fare by Tinubu on Obasanjo. By marking June 12, Tinubu and his cronies in the defunct AD were sending a message to Obasanjo that he wasn't their legitimate president.

After Obasabjo , June 12 died a natural death and is only celebrated on the pages of newspaper editorials.

vicadex07:


Yeah and that was because the purpose of june 12 has been acheived which is democracy.

Sapiosexuality:
Feelings has nothing to with it. Whatever the soldiers choose has nothing to do with free and fair elections. They are mutually exclusive terms. Give me a better answer.

They are not useless questions but useful questions. Why should I buy the story that it was Nigeria's best election? Why?

Having a preconceived notion when questioning a thing not the problem. The problem is refusing to change the notion when presented with a more reasonable argument.

On what basis are we been made to think that June 12 was the best election we've ever had? What parameters were used and how did the election better the election that brought Buhari, GEJ, Yaradua and OBJ? Is that too much.

Sapiosexuality:
There's no point calling names. I'm here to seek answers to some things I find difficult to swallow. Was June 12 the freest and fairest election we ever had?

Sapiosexuality:
Feelings has nothing to with it.


Whatever the soldiers choose has nothing to do with free and fair election


They are mutually exclusive terms. Give me a better answer.

They are not useless questions but useful questions. Why should I buy the story that it was Nigeria's best election? Why?

Having a preconceived notion when questioning a thing not the problem. The problem is refusing to change the notion when presented with a more reasonable argument.

On what basis are we been made to think that June 12 was the best election we've ever had? What parameters were used and how did the election better the election that brought Buhari, GEJ, Yaradua and OBJ? Is that too much.

Ballmer:
Abiola was a huge philanthropist giving to muslin, Christian and every thing in sight. I personally believe if any Nigeria should embark on what he did back any election would always be a walkout. He related with everyone beat Tofa hands down even his own state.

It wasn't just about Nigeria being tired of the military, more about the man's capability n how he galvanized everyone without any true feeling left out. Abiola back then is what Dangote is right now the difference is the philanthropic difference btw them.

A Muslim that will sponsor Christian programs to the extent no Christian can compete. He definitely had the magic. I believe he would have been the most charismatic leader Nigeria ever had was made the president.

vicadex07:


So in essence, the military is not responsible for the annulment of the election. What kind of dumb assertion is that?

12Monkeys:


On the credibility of the elections, the 1993 presidential elections were the fairest so far.

Sapiosexuality:
Sorry..This thread is not for you. If that's what you can deduce from my post I will need smarter people.

vicadex07:



you are a fool. you have presented no argument of your own other than turning down my opinion senselessly.

If you already have your own argument and you believe its superior to mine, its either you spill it or keep shut and use it for your useless phantom research

Sapiosexuality:
This is the issue. On what basis did we arrive at that? How did we know it was the fairest? How did it do better in these terms when place with the 1999, 1982, 2003-2015 Elections? Feelings?

Iamwrath:
Experience

Sapiosexuality:
This is the issue. On what basis did we arrive at that?

How did we know it was the fairest? How did it do better in these terms when place with the 1999, 1982, 2003-2015 Elections? Feelings?

Sapiosexuality:
To be honest this is about the man Abiola than the nature of the election. Abiola was a philanthropist. We know that.

But the thing here is the idea that election that brought him was most free and fair in Nigeria's history. I can't find the basis for this assertion so I need to know the parameters used in arriving at this point.

Charisma is not the issue here. Donald Trump also is charismatic but the election that brought him wasn't free of violence and threats. That's my point. Let's talk about the election and not the man.

Sapiosexuality:
The last election also saw the reduction of food prices because of 'Sai Baba' and the Jubilation I saw is something I've never seen or heard of. To begin with, does this happiness make an election free and fair?

I need real stats based on who voted. Were underage children in the north prevented from voting as they normally do? What voting pattern was employed and how is it better than all we've had? Was it a fair method?

What about the capturing. How many people were captured? How many could vote? How many had their votes counted? In how many States did voting occur?

In a nutshell, what are the parameters employed in arriving at that conclusion, how do these parameters fare when placed side-by-side with parameters of free and fair election, how do these parameters beat all the other elections we've had? I need answers.

12Monkeys:



Voter turnouts were very high and the Hope 93 campaign by Abiola's SDP cut across all corners of the country.

By all indices the election was the best.

12Monkeys:


1. Largest recorded turnout

2. Peaceful campaign period devoid of violence

3. Election day remained peaceful with no incidence of ballot snatching or voter disenfranchisement

4. Collation and announcement of results were smooth and done live on tv and radio

5. The defunct NEC declared Abiola as winner and the NRC opposition candidate congratulated him.