tkb417:

Eguavoen, Amodu, Keshi, Amodu have all been tested and what did we get?

who is left? Siasia or Chukwu?
let uf hear u

voltron:



Just one look at the voting stats again had me thinking, how can we overlook our deficiencies and continue to press on with blind faith/luck

tkb417:

Eguavoen, Amodu, Keshi, Amodu have all been tested and what did we get?

who is left? Siasia or Chukwu?
let uf hear u

eldee:

This is the same thing that happened with England. . . just check out the wonderful job Capello is doing with England.
Forget the wins, players live for him, he eliminated WAGS, they are on diets each time England plays . . . that's the kind of coach we need.
It's not about his nationality or skin colour, but I don't see any Nigerian coach doing that.
I don't even see any English coach that'll be able to do that.

People don't understand that football is not about sentiments.

The good thing about getting an experienced proven coach is the fact that they can help you train your local coaches.
We all know that a coaching certificate doesn't mean shyte. . .

Right now Capello is grooming Stuart Pierce and other English coaches to take up the job when he's gone.
If we don't do something soon, we'll let this generation waste.
We wasted Kanu, Yobo, Aghahowa and Utaka's prime years already . . . are we going to let Osaze, Mikel and Martins go without winning anything too??

tkb417:

Mint!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we need a world class coach who will bring back the winning mentality in these boiz
these boiz are good enuff to play good footie but as it is, all our local coaches cant do jack
keshi just got fired in small Mali so what are we saying?

eldee:

I know . . . this is a coach that couldn't get Kanoute, Keita, Diarra and Sissoko to the quarter finals.
And that's who people want us to play?? Hehehe.

It's simple, if anyone wants to coach Nigeria, let him go out, win the African Champions League, send applications to other countries and win the Nation's Cup, believe me, we'll beg him to come coach the Super Eagles.
I remember Germany begging Otto Rehhagel after he won the Euros.
That's how things work . . . not someone coming to use us for trial and error.
Na wa ooh . . . we don suffer

ayettymama (f)

i simply cannot bare to watch nigeria struggle for a measly third place! 

dejavuwole:

Oh, well, the nigerian coach has said A BRONZE IS AS GOOD AS GOLD? Can anyone imagine that?

eldee:

I know . . . this is a coach that couldn't get Kanoute, Keita, Diarra and Sissoko to the quarter finals.
And that's who people want us to play?? Hehehe.

It's simple, if anyone wants to coach Nigeria, let him go out, win the African Champions League, send applications to other countries and win the Nation's Cup, believe me, we'll beg him to come coach the Super Eagles.
I remember Germany begging Otto Rehhagel after he won the Euros.
That's how things work . . . not someone coming to use us for trial and error.
Na wa ooh . . . we don suffer

snakova:

Na real suffer ooh. The best option is a superstar dutch coach. A winner. Not an almost won, or nearly miss. But those NFF guys would surely go for the one that fits their coffers, if you catch my drift.

honeric01:

and who are you suggesting?

snakova:

Rijkaard if e go gree come. or Hiddink

honeric01:

Hiddink is as good as his last result, so he's out of the picture.

eldee:

Last result?? You mean the same Russia he took to the semi-finals on the toughest tournament in the world??
Hmmn . . . that's quite interesting.

You mean the same Russia he made from scratch like he did with South Korea??

Your line of reasoning is so weird, I think you should join the NFF.

Which excuse are you trying to make for him? are you trying to tell me that the Russians had no national team before he was made coach? and how long was he the coach of the Russian national team?

one more thing, would you be happy if the sweat of your father is enjoyed by someone else? if Amodu was your dad, would you be happy if all he labored for was given to someone else to enjoy? he was deprived before, he shouldn't be deprived the second time.

eldee:

A coach is as good as his CV not his last result.
Why do you think Arsene Wenger is still one of the most sought after managers in Europe??

eldee:

Do you watch football at all??
Russia before Hiddink had not gone past the group stages of a major tournament . . . same with South Korea.
And you're here spewing fcukery?? Sometimes you football analysts amaze me.

eldee:

Football has nothing to do with sentiment/emotions.
Stop being a girl . . . emotions cloud your judgement and lead to irrational decisions.

In football . . . we don't care if it sounds bad, the best people should take the best roles.
That's why players get the bench when they get old. . .

You're taling like this and one day, you'll say you want to coach the Super Eagles, and the cycle continues.

honeric01:

Mr man, stop twisting words, A COACH IS AS GOOD AS HIS LAST RESULT, I AIN'T SAYING GUUS IS NOT A GOOD COACH, BUT HE FAILED TO TAKE RUSSIA TO THE WORLDCUP AND AMODU PASSED THAT TEST, SO EOD.

honeric01:

So does that mean he built these teams from the scratch as you mentioned?  a coach is as good as his last result mr man, past glories don't count when you are faced with the present.

honeric01:

So does that mean he built these teams from the scratch as you mentioned?

honeric01:

Mr man, if you wanted the best coach, why didn't you take SAF AND ANCELOTTI PLUS GUUS before the qualifiers?

eldee:

Saying a coach is only as good as his last result is not only silly . . . it is also quite amusing.
But I'll leave you to your stupidity.

eldee:

In your own opinion, Amodu is better than Guus Hiddink?? How brainless can you get??

eldee:

That's where you're mistaken . . . it's so easy to see that you're stuck to this deluded line of reasoning, the same one that's inherent in most decisions by the NFF.

eldee:

A coach does not become crap because of one competition . . . they have records that speak for them.
He has been fourth place in four of the last five major competitions he's been in and that's past history??
Jesus Christ!!! Why did you bless Nairaland with this many daft people?? This is more than any site's fair share.

eldee:

Yeah . . . but you wouldn't understand since you know so much about football.
Because id[i]i[/i]ots like you in the NFF will never think logically before making decisions.
Rather they'll rather employ a crap coach and put the fate of our football 'in the hands of God', one would think they don't pray in other countries.

You know what . . . I shouldn't be discussing this with you.
Forgive me for thinking your IQ was at least of a positive integer.

honeric01:

Bullshit, Has Rijkaard ever coached a national team before? just because he won some laurels as a club coach does not mean he can do that with a national team, remember one thing, he's not going to be given money to buy super-good players like Ronaldinho, Deco and co, so the super eagles is not an error & trial team.
Hiddink is as good as his last result, so he's out of the picture.
Now, let me ask you some questions, would you be happy if the sweat of your father is enjoyed by someone else?

Amodu was given a mandate to win the worldcup ticket which he did, he was also given the mandate to get to the semi-final of the nations cup, which he did, infact he even won bronze, so IMO, he should be allowed to go to the worldcup since we are not going to the worldcup to win the cup even if we go with SAF, MOURINHO, PEP GURDIOLA AND ANCELOTTI. Siasia should be drafted into the technical crew, they should both take us to the worldcup.
After the worlcup, NFF can as well employed all the above coaches for 2014 worldcup.

FBS:

@Eldee, honeric01 - Abeg can you guys stop the name calling/insults etc? Thanks.

@Eldee, I've battled honeric01 on the subject of Guus Hiddink and I think I made him to realise that Guus Ivanovic did wonders with the russian team and still contracted to them till this summer. He took them to the 3rd place match of the Euros and that is their best result in modern times. (spanning more than 20 years). To say Amodu is better than Guus is a CRIME![color=#006600][/color]A coach is as good as his last result - by this I mean - a coach is deemed a "failure" if he fails to meet his target but again, we all know that there are many other factors that contributes to this aside the ability of the coach himself. What is paramount here is not just the result but his performance/career - i.e his CV.

If going by Hiddink's CV, then sorry who is Amodu?

In the words of JM - A lucky coach is better than a good coach but how far can the SE ride their luck?

The time to get a new coach for the WC is pretty short but does that mean that we should support a tactically redundant coach? Are we going to the WC to make up numbers?

My hope is that if Sia1 takes over, at least maybe he will select not only the younger and more energetic players but also home based since Sir Amodu feels nothing good can come out of our league.