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Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by Amberon11: 8:55am On Jun 19, 2017 |
Oniovo, you are quite observant. I'm trying to desist from all these e-brawls as they're unhealthy plus some people here have a psychotic train of thought so i see no need engaging them Sanchez01: |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by melody91: 8:57am On Jun 19, 2017 |
rainylad:leave our Sw fr us , go back to Aba or wherever. we don't want u psycho's no more. |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by TheUmbra: 9:00am On Jun 19, 2017 |
aribisala0: In as much as I would totally disagree with anyone against the all important and vital meeting of all stakeholders in southern Nigeria, I wouldn't pass up the opportunity to put to you that indigenous igbo-speaking people in the south south is ARGUABLY THE MOST POPULOUS set of people in that region. So, there's no attachment where there is no cultural and kinship connection. |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by wristbangle: 9:02am On Jun 19, 2017 |
dragonking2: Lol |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by verygudbadguy(m): 9:03am On Jun 19, 2017 |
The problem of the country starts and ends with the poor folk. They are poor in mentality, conductive thinking, poor in everything. I know some Igbo billionaires here in Ikoyi and they are very good with other tribes. Let me mention just two of them and you google for further understanding. Chief O, a billionaire business tycoon, with investment in importation, factory at Aspanda with lots of properties on the Island employed half Yoruba, 1/4 Igbos and 1/4 Hausas and other tribes in his firms. I know that because I processed their salaries. He speaks Yoruba fluently. Elder E, a billionaire, with business in oil and gas, Fx, also employed half Yoruba and half Igbo in his firms. I also processed their salaries. If these men were tribalists like you guys, they would not have made these much. Go and purge yourselves of hate or else, you will remain poor. I am referring to all tribes and not just Igbos. Note that I modified the names because of the risk of leaking people's infos to Kidnappers. |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by BAILMONEY: 9:09am On Jun 19, 2017 |
Ymodulus:AFONJA MUSLIM, THE IMPORTER OF FAKE PRODUCTS 2 Likes |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by cumbak60: 9:14am On Jun 19, 2017 |
Ymodulus:Nnamdi Kanu has played his part. He shocked the nation to her bone, and people are waking up from slumber. Nigerians have just realized that is no more business usual. Its high time intellectuals with the proper vision, pick up from where he is, and build up a realizable mission. Respect to his guts, but he should retire; let others, with credibility and the ability to harness popular support lead from the front. 3 Likes |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by Ymodulus: 9:14am On Jun 19, 2017 |
mavinc4u: I have Igbo friends and colleagues. I love and respect them and cherish them. I think i would have added the word "majority or some". Thanks ma |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by Jflex07(m): 9:16am On Jun 19, 2017 |
Nairaland has become the mainstay of tribal bigots. Can we ever be united in this country? The amount of hatred I see here on this forum is quite alarming to say the least. We should all go our separate ways, Osibanjo your trying but the hatred is beyond repair. |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by ShootToKill: 9:16am On Jun 19, 2017 |
back2sender: Yes I agree with you we yoruba people only support our brothers who remove human heads and put it inside nylon bags. They are our heroes. 5 Likes
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Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by Ikology(m): 9:18am On Jun 19, 2017 |
Ymodulus: Your are not been fair to Igbos, what about the Northwest and Northeast that have been giving Buhari almost 85% vote since 2011? That some online mischief makers who are mostly PDP members or supporters tag Okorocha as Okoro-awusa does not mean all Igbos do the same. For your information Ndi Igbo did not know that Buhari will win the election as you claimed. The hatred for the north is because Igbos are always the victim of most violent in the North. You can attest to this. Igbo blood have always been used by some extremist to quench their taste for blood. 2 Likes |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by ShootToKill: 9:23am On Jun 19, 2017 |
Gotze1: The nightmare of the ewedu unity beggars. Even a villager in ogbomosho who reads alaroye newspaper knows him very much. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by Ymodulus: 9:26am On Jun 19, 2017 |
papaejima1:Just read what you have written and ask yourself if you believed what you typed. So now you want to compare Martin Luther King Jr to that idiotic Nnamdi Kanu? Brother, no offence but are you okay? Of what relationship does Light ( Martin Luther King ) has to do with darkness ( Nnamdi kanu ) ? And i know now in your mind you are the Barack Obama. mtschew!!!! I am even stupid for replying this 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by Mujtahida: 9:27am On Jun 19, 2017 |
Notes From Atlanta ▼ Saturday, June 17, 2017 The Intellectual Case Against Nigeria’s Break-up (I) By Farooq A. Kperogi, Ph.D. Twitter:@farooqkperogi In light of the strains imposed on our quest for national unity by the renewed agitation for Biafra and its reverberations across the country, some readers of this column requested that I republish a series I wrote in 2008 and 2012. Here is an edited and updated version of the series: Why is our diversity such a lumbering burden on us? Why do most Nigerians have such powerful loyalties to their incidental, primordial identities and a corresponding disdain, even hatred, for other identities? Many Nigerians think our country is unworkable because it was “forced” into being by British colonialists. This view has no basis in the history and sociology of nation-building. There is no nation in history whose formation was the consequence of a democratic consensus. Historically, most nations were formed by conquests, expansionist wars, and forceful cooptation, not by consensus. I don't know what fuels this false, annoyingly ahistorical sentiment among Nigerians. Many Nigerians also cherish the illusion that they inhabit the most diverse country on planet Earth. But India, a post-colonial country like ours, has a lot more diversity than Nigeria has. It has over 800 languages, several mutually irreconcilable religions, a huge landmass that is several times the size of Nigeria, and a human population that is more than that of the entire African continent combined. Yet it's one country, and it was formed in fairly the same way as Nigeria was formed. Most of the groups that make up present-day India were independent ethnic groupings. None of the groups was consulted before they were integrated into the modern Indian nation. But you don't hear Indians interminably whining about the unnaturalness of their nation, or about the need to “renegotiate” the basis of their existence. Nigeria is only about 200 million in population, the 13th largest country in Africa in landmass, with some 500 languages (most of which belong to the same language family), two major religions (which share tremendous doctrinal affinities, unlike, for instance, India that has such mutually exclusive religions as Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, Christianity, and other Eastern mystical orders). Why is it difficult to conceive that a nation can be formed out of this? In any case, there is no evidence that mono-ethnic nations thrive better than ethnically diverse nations. One supreme illustration that explodes the myth of the "naturalness" and invulnerability of mono-cultural nations is Somalia. There can be no more homogeneous nation on Earth than Somalia. It's a monolingual, mono-religious, and mono-ethnic society. Everybody in Somalia speaks the Somali language. Everybody there is not just a Muslim, but a Sunni Muslim. It is often said that Somalia is not just a nation; it is, in fact, a big family. They all have a common ancestor and preserve their ethnic purity through endogamous marriages. How more homogenous can a nation get? Yet it's an excellent specimen of a failed state. It has been gripped by sanguinary convulsions for years on end. An example nearer home is the former Oyo Empire, which had effectively disintegrated even before the start of colonialism, although it was an ethnically homogenous entity. It was caught in the web of a vicious internal schism that precipitated a debilitating war of attrition, which stopped only with the advent of colonialism. So homogeneity and consensus are no safeguards against implosion. They are not necessary and sufficient conditions to immunize any nation against internal contradictions and disintegration. Only justice, mutual tolerance, good governance can. Having said that, the claim that the formation of the Nigerian nation is “forced” needs some interrogation because the history and sociology of pre-colonial relations in Nigeria don't bear testimony to this claim. A lot of research has been done by historians, notably the late Yusufu Bala Usman and Elizabeth Isichei, which chronicles the robust relational intercourse between the disparate ethnic groups that populate what is today Nigeria. A notable example was the burgeoning social and cultural melting between the Yoruba people and various ethnic groups in North before colonialism. As the travel records of Arab explorers show, the "ambassadors" (or, if you like, interpreters) of the Alaafin of Oyo during the Trans-Saharan trade with Arabs were people from the extreme North. And records show that Hausas had been living in Yoruba land in large numbers before colonialism. The same is true of Yorubas in the North. If you go to Kano, for instance, you will see entire neighborhoods that are peopled by men and women whose ancestral roots are located in Yoruba land. Gwammaja is one such neighborhood. Ayagi is another. This is not to talk of the vibrant pre-colonial inter-ethnic relations between such northern minorities as Igalas, Tivs, Idomas, etc. and Igbos. To this day, Igalas and Idomas have councilors in some Igbo states, and there are "indigenous" Igbos in Benue State. A lot of people are often shocked to find out that Joseph Wayas, Nigeria's Second Republic Senate President from Cross River State, is “Tiv.” He comes from a part of Cross River State called Obanliku (the location of the famous Obudu Cattle Ranch) where people speak Tiv but call it by a different name. And the man was made Senate President on the basis of his being a Southerner. Interestingly, during the still-born Third Republic, Iyiorcha Ayu, another Tiv man, became Senate President because he was supposed to be from the North! Take the case of Edo State, too. The people of southern Edo had shared, and still vastly share, deep cultural and historical ties with the Yoruba people long before colonialism, and those in northern Edo had deep ties with northern Nigeria dating back to hundreds of years. The people of Akoko Edo, for instance, speak the same language as the Ebira of Kogi State, although they call their language Igara. Yet Edo is supposed to be in the South and Kogi in the North. Again, the people of Auchi have cultural values that decidedly owe their debts to Nupe and Hausa people. I remember that Auchi people used to be called "Bendel Hausas" when, in fact, their language is almost mutually intelligible with Bini and Ishan in southern Edo State In northern Cross River, the Yala people are linguistically, ethnically, and culturally indistinct from the Idoma and Igede people in Benue State. The Ebu people in Oshimili North LGA of Delta State are actually Igala people. So are the Ilushi people in Edo State. And most so-called Delta Igbos are actually descended from Igala people in what is now Kogi State. The point of these examples is to demonstrate the inadmissibility of the claim that Nigeria is a "forced" nation. We were too culturally and ethnically intertwined even before colonialism for that claim to have any basis in truth. Even without colonialism, it is conceivable that Nigeria in its present form would have emerged. If we related as closely as historical records show we did, the British merely accelerated what was likely to have happened anyway. Of course, the result of these robust pre-colonial relational intercourses could very well have resulted in the formation of a different kind of nation from what Nigeria is today, but there is no reason to suppose that it would be the product of the kind of elaborate, unrealistic consensus that irredentists claim is indispensable to national formation. To be continued Farooq A. Kperogi at 12:20 AM Share › Home View web version About Me My photo Farooq A. Kperogi Dr. Farooq Kperogi is a professor, journalist, newspaper columnist, author, and blogger based in Greater Atlanta, USA. He received his Ph.D. in communication from Georgia State University's Department of Communication where he taught journalism for 5 years and won the top Ph.D. student prize called the "Outstanding Academic Achievement in Graduate Studies Award." He earned his Master of Science degree in communication (with a minor in English) from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette and won the Outstanding Master's Student in Communication Award. He earned his B.A. in Mass Communication (with minors in English and Political Science) from Bayero University, Kano, Nigeria, where he won the Nigerian Television Authority Prize for the Best Graduating Student. Dr. Kperogi worked as a reporter and news editor, as a researcher/speech writer at the (Nigerian) President's office, and as a journalism lecturer at Kaduna Polytechnic and Ahmadu Bello University before relocating to the United States. He was the Managing Editor of the Atlanta Review of Journalism History, a refereed academic journal. He was also Associate Director of Research at Georgia State University's Center for International Media Education (CIME). He is currently an Associate Professor of Journalism and Emerging Media at the School of Communication and Media, Kennesaw State University, Georgia's fastest-growing and third largest university. (Kennesaw is a suburb of Atlanta). He also writes two weekly newspaper columns: "Notes From Atlanta" in the Abuja-based Daily Trust on Saturday (formerly Weekly Trust) and "Politics of Grammar" in the Daily Trust on Sunday (formerly Sunday Trust). In April 2014 Dr. Kperogi was honored as the Outstanding Alumnus of the University of Louisiana's Department of Communication. His research has also won international awards, such as the 2016 Top-Rated Research Paper Award at the 17th Symposium on Online Journalism at the University of Texas, Austin, USA. He is the author of Glocal English: The Changing Face and Forms of Nigerian English in a Global World. View my complete prof[truncated by WhatsApp] |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by Nobody: 9:30am On Jun 19, 2017 |
igbeke:They have heard my call. I also ask once more for formation of a Southern Governor's Forum. The North has its Northern Governor's Forum. Why should we not have a pan-Southern forum to complement/balance them here? |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by Ymodulus: 9:31am On Jun 19, 2017 |
[quote author=Ikology post=57650178] Your are not been fair to Igbos, what about the Northwest and Northeast that have been giving Buhari almost 85% vote since 2011? That some online mischief makers [/b]who are mostly PDP members or supporters tag Okorocha as Okoro-awusa does not mean all Igbos do the same.[b]Please not just online mischief makers. For your information Ndi Igbo did not know that Buhari will win the election as you claimed. The hatred for the north is because Igbos are always the victim of most violent in the North. You can attest to this. Igbo blood have always been used by some extremist to quench their taste for blood. Brother those are religious miscreants. Religious fools, illiterates. Also the hatred of the igbos against the north is not for as a result of the reason as claimed. It has to do with the Biafran civil war.. 1 Like |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by oswardic(m): 9:32am On Jun 19, 2017 |
Why include Edo as Biafra.. Don't you know your history? Benin Empire, an independent nation that ruled over lot of regions from the SE to Togo.. Read your history my friend! victorDanladi: |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by SWRegion: 9:34am On Jun 19, 2017 |
aribisala0: Lwkmd! 1 Like |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by geronimoedeh1(m): 9:36am On Jun 19, 2017 |
[quote author=Gotze1 post=57648437]Bros, we must attach south South by fire by force. we need access to sea at all cost hehehehe. [/quote Just like u guys are needing the oil... We must attach just like the north attaches middlebelt and other adjacent regions dat make up the 19 northern states.... Its no longer oil bcoz its inargueably proven that 3 states in d east has oil its now sea... jumping from pillar to post..dumbie |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by mavinc4u(f): 9:36am On Jun 19, 2017 |
iwatch: I don't think you understand something here. Some igbos told Nigeria that they want to leave so is Nigeria that will tell igbos to leave in the right way and not one tribe telling igbos to leave, who are they? It is more like you are talking to your master that you are no longer comfortable staying with him and you need to go. But instead of your master replying, it was a fellow servant that asked you to go; chei you go listen to that one abi give am him seat? |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by franudi: 9:43am On Jun 19, 2017 |
If the Afonjas can agree,let us divide this country into two;north and south.If it is done I will be the happiest man on earth. |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by victorDanladi: 9:45am On Jun 19, 2017 |
Bridget95: And Alex ekwueme,ken nnamani,Aldophus wabara,chuba okadigbo,Anyim pius Anyim,ekwueremadu,Good luck jonathan did wonderfully well in handling of Nigeria,right? Igbo sha....hmmmm,they are the most perfect on earth.
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Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by victorDanladi: 10:04am On Jun 19, 2017 |
cumbak60: It is very easy to shock the nation to her bone na.Evans,the kidnapper biafran also did. |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by emmanuelex1(m): 10:04am On Jun 19, 2017 |
As I watch Southern youths insult themselves I feel like crying but I am a MAN, also seeing the unity of Northern youths. Please I beg you all my southern brothers learn to show some respect to one another, Igbos learn to respect Yorubas, and Yorubas learn to respect Igbos. Please Igbos calling Yorubas saboteur I will like to tell that the worst sabo I know today is Arthur Nzeribe which happens to be an Igbo man, maybe lot of saboteurs, but believe me same goes for Igbos. Igbos we love ourselves because there are Yorubas and Hausas, Yorubas we love ourselves because there are Igbos and hausas. Personally I believe in Southern Nigeria than Biafra/ODua/ Niger Delta republic if there is need to divide. Please let us respect and show support for one another my southern brothers before what I am seeing consume us all. Please please and please if you are from the south do not laugh at one another when being attack by the north or by Fulani herdsmen The , the best you could do is to show some support and respect. The reason the NORTH feels they are born to rule is because the south is not united. God bless everyone who does not insult another person in Jesus name I pray, Amen. May my Good God give us the strengths to respect one another. igbeke: 1 Like |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by ukandi1(m): 10:07am On Jun 19, 2017 |
ZKOSOSO: Only division would solve d problem ones and for all. All other negotiations or suggestions are only temporary measures which would soon collapse relapsing us to where we are now and d cycle continues. Pls let's leave d north |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by etzskillz(m): 10:14am On Jun 19, 2017 |
blueseacats:#HoeLawd this is Savage bro u finished im |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by Sanchez01: 10:16am On Jun 19, 2017 |
Amberon11:Lol. It is well, Dearie. Now I understand why you have been very quiet. By the way, what happened to your mail? I recall sending you a message at some point. 1 Like |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by ukandi1(m): 10:22am On Jun 19, 2017 |
igbodefender: Matured observation. I agree with u |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by deedeedee1: 10:24am On Jun 19, 2017 |
Yorubas dont want southern unity. We are better on our own 1 Like |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by deedeedee1: 10:32am On Jun 19, 2017 |
dragonking2:This does not mean that many yorubas do not want southern unity. We detest it. South-south and south-east can form their southern unity, but leave yorubas. I will only support it if they plan to split this country into three or more, but aside that, i do not support it. 1 Like |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by deedeedee1: 10:35am On Jun 19, 2017 |
Sanchez01:The guy said osinbajo should step down as nigeria president, while at the same time shouting biafra. Confused bunch! |
Re: Southern Leaders Meet In Lagos Over National Unity by cumbak60: 10:35am On Jun 19, 2017 |
deedeedee1:IkediEbube, you're on point. But some form of alliances that will see to an amicable division of the country without rancor is welcomed. |
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