Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by simplycarro: 8:21am On Jun 30, 2017 |
Paretomaster:
Don't come, and justify that here, since most are Igbo, y didn't they take part in the counter coup? Good question |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by Nobody: 8:38am On Jun 30, 2017 |
Paretomaster:
Don't come, and justify that here, since most are Igbo, y didn't they take part in the counter coup? Most of the rank and file in both coups of 1966 were Northerners. Some civilians successfully convinced them of the 'Igbo' nature of the January coup. the stage was thus set for mass mutiny against the Igbo officers. |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by Chemcrown: 8:48am On Jun 30, 2017 |
gartamanta:
AguIyi Ironsi
Sir, leave counter-coup, pls, mention the igbos murtala or dimka killed. |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by gartamanta: 8:52am On Jun 30, 2017 |
Chemcrown:
Sir, leave counter-coup, pls, mention the igbos murtala or dimka killed. Why leave the counter coup? Is it still not a coup? |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by Chemcrown: 9:19am On Jun 30, 2017 |
gartamanta:
Why leave the counter coup? Is it still not a coup? Sir, you slap me once and I slap you twice is counter slap. In all honesty northern RESPONSE to Jan coup is best tagged 'pogrom' but there is no curse without cause. Really enjoying your civility. |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by gartamanta: 9:57am On Jun 30, 2017 |
Chemcrown:
Sir, you slap me once and I slap you twice is counter slap. In all honesty northern RESPONSE to Jan coup is best tagged 'pogrom' but there is no curse without cause. Really enjoying your civility. If you think that then Igbos are entitled to take the first coup as a slap for the 1945 Jos massacre and the 1953 Kano massacre of Igbos. |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by Paretomaster(m): 11:03am On Jun 30, 2017 |
igbodefender: Most of the rank and file in both coups of 1966 were Northerners. Some civilians successfully convinced them of the 'Igbo' nature of the January coup. the stage was thus set for mass mutiny against the Igbo officers. The first Coup is an Igbo coup, nothing can change that, but all the same we've all move on except for u Igbo ppl looking for rematch.. . 4 Likes |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by Nobody: 11:32am On Jun 30, 2017 |
gartamanta:
If you think that then Igbos are entitled to take the first coup as a slap for the 1945 Jos massacre and the 1953 Kano massacre of Igbos. I await his responce to this your comment. |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by Nobody: 11:34am On Jun 30, 2017 |
Paretomaster:
The first Coup is an Igbo coup, nothing can change that, but all the same we've all move on except for u Igbo ppl looking for rematch.. . Believe me, most Igbos want to move on. Yes, the scars remain, but the wound is healed. Those issuing quit notice want to reopen an old wound. |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by donjazet(m): 12:22pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
raumdeuter:
That is the problem with [size=14pt]Ibos they think they are smart and everyone else is foolish[/size]
Azikwe left North left East he wanted to become premier of the west claiming one Nigeria, when he lost, he forgot One Nigeria. he went to the east to chase away Ita Eyo Ibo soldiers killed other regional leaders and spared theirs they claimed they want to make Awolowo a man in prison the leader Raumdeuter! ![cry](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cry.gif) never have I been so disappointed in you. I know you chat a lot of bullocks as a person, especially in sports related issues, but I just put it down to you being a jester by nature, I am usually intrigued by your perceived brilliance on international politics and affairs but to find out that you are this tribalistic and myopic on ethnicity is very disappointing. I never thought you would debase yourself and be this shallow on this divisive issue. I usually expect intelligent folks to be devoid of sentimental bias and analyze objectively. WHAT A PITY! 1 Like |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by Paretomaster(m): 1:22pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
igbodefender: Believe me, most Igbos want to move on. Yes, the scars remain, but the wound is healed. Those issuing quit notice want to reopen an old wound. Good to know, but there quit notice is not Wat u should even talk of at all, considering the number of months, and tonnes of abuses hipped on an average Northerner by ur people The ultimatum is commendable, but it's necessary to put a stop to the unnecessary tirade. 4 Likes |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by Neatboy(m): 1:31pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
It is like accusing Northerners for the death of Abiola |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by johnspurgeon014(m): 2:47pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
MyX1: 1966 Coup: “The Igbos Now Vindicated And Exonerated”Olusegun-Obasanjo Let the truth be told. The People involved in that so called 1966 “Igbo coup” were: 1. Major Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu (Midwest Region Igbo) 2. Major Adewale Ademoyega (Western Region – Yoruba), author of “Why we struck” 3. Capt. G. Adeleke (Western Region – Yoruba). 4. Maj. Ifeajuna (Midwestern Region – Igbo). 5. Lt. Fola Oyewole (Western Region – Yoruba), author of “The reluctant rebel”. 6. Lt. R. Egbiko (Midwestern Region – Ishan). 7. Lt. Tijani Katsina (Northern Region – Hausa/Fulani). 8. Lt. O. Olafemiyan (Western Region – Yoruba). 9. Capt. Gibson Jalo (Northern Region – Bachama). 10. Capt. Swanton (Northern Region – Middle Belt). 11. Lt. Hope Harris Eghagha (Midwest – Urhobo). 12. Lt. Dag Warribor (Midwest – Ijaw) 13. 2nd Lt. Saleh Dambo (Northern Nigeria -Hausa) 14. 2nd Lt. John Atom Kpera (Northern Nigeria-Tiv). The reason for calling the 1966 Coup an Igbo exercise is because the government of Nigeria has refused teaching Nigerian History in our schools. And core North has been busy misinforming Nigerians that the 1966 coup was an Igbo coup. ………………………………………. Yoruba – Igbo fact sheet. This article has no tribal sentiments. Pls add ur own facts if u have any. History will always tell us what happened. 1. Azikiwe defeated Awolowo to become the first Nigerian Premier of Western Nigeria (present Southwest plus Edo and Delta States). Awolowo instead of forming Opposition, rather formed Egbe Omo Yoruba and used it to intimidate Yorubas that won election on NCNC platform to cross carpet and join him against Azikiwe. This was the first parliamentary coup in Nigeria. 2. Awolowo from then on, started indoctrination of Yorubas against the “threat of Igbo domination”. That is how the incurable seed of fear of Igbos was sown in the psychic of Yorubas which Yorubas later sold to other groups through Yoruba control of the media for decades. 3. Alhaji Tafawa Balewa , Nigeria ‘s first Prime minister could not tolerate Awolowo’s treacherous and inordinate ambition of acquiring political power by all means and at any cost. So, he threw Awolowo into prison for treason. 4. Samuel Ladoke Akintola who replaced Awolowo as Premier of Western Nigeria tried to destroy Awolowo’s political grip on Yorubaland by forming a party to takeover Western Nigeria in alliance with the Hausa-Fulani oligarch who Awolowo despised as a backward race. Consequently, Yorubaland went ablaze in revolt against Akintola’s plot. Law and order completely broke down in Western Nigeria. Wole Soyinka wore a mask and forced announcers at Western Nigeria Broadcasting Corporation to declare that Akintola’s government was a fraud. 5. Yet, Tafawa Balewa refused to declare state of emergency in Western Nigeria in order to keep Akintola as a proxy for Hausa-Fulani interest. This was the MAIN reason Yoruba graduates in the Army were the brains behind the coup led by Chukwuma Nzeogwu who happened to be Igbo. 6. As Wole Soyinka and even Obasanjo acknowledged, Nzeogwu ‘s coup was widely accepted by a vast majority of Nigerians across regional, religious and ethnic divides. 9. But the dissatisfied Hausa-Fulani oligarchy who had majority in Nigerian Army infantry used their puppets, Yakubu Gowon, Theophilus Danjuma and co to overthrow General Ironsi. 7. In order to win support of Yorubas, Gowon released Awolowo from prison. The Hausa-Fulani knew Awolowo’s fear of Igbo as the only group that stood against his ambition to power. Gowon therefore quickly made a deal with Awolowo which in effect was that power would rotate between the North and the West (Hausa- Fulani and Yoruba) in post war Nigeria if Awolowo convinced Yorubas to join the North in fighting Igbos. 8. The Nigerian Army was consequently split into two divisions: the northern sector division commanded by Hausa- Fulani and the southern sector division, commanded by Yorubas. 9. Lagos, a city built largely by Igbos and were Igbos invested heavily, was also ceded to Yorubas as a State even when there was no Abuja at the time (1967). 14. Awolowo was made Vice Chairman of Federal Executive Council and Finance Minister. All federal government owned banks in Nigeria at the time which included the Central Bank and First Bank, were under Awolowo and Yoruba management. It was a deal Awolowo could not resist. The man was an unscrupulous Machivellian anyway. 10. The Igbos were eventually defeated and Yorubas became champions of nationalism. 11. Awolowo tried to make sure no Igbo man or woman would ever be more than acfinancial destutute let alone have the financial resources to rival a Yoruba 12. To achieve his objective of permanent Yoruba supremacy, Awolowo insisted that every bank account owned by an Igbo, regardless of how much was in it before the declaration of Biafra, would only be replaced with twenty pounds! He instructed Yoruba Permanent Secretaries who took over the Federal Civil service when Igbos left, to make sure that Igbo senior civil servants were not reinstated but to rather retire those who could not be dismissed as rebels. The same policy obtained in the Armed Forces of Nigeria and Police . 13. The Igbo were not only made pariahs but also financial destitutes. 14. Every house and industry in Igbo city was destroyed by war. Schools were closed for 3 years and many were razed to the ground. 15. Awolowo masterminded the indiginization policy by which Yorubas bought over all companies in Nigeria using money readily made available to them by the banks under their control. The Igbos were excluded. 16. They rejoiced and relaxed and complaisantly asked: “How could Igbos ever rear their ugly heads up again”? Sure, if that had happened to Yorubas or any other ethnic group, that would be their end. But as Awolowo rightly feared, we happen to be Ndi Igbo. 17. The shooting war ended 45 years ago and we are still here. We have survived all policy shenanigans contrapted by treacherous Yoruba masterminds and executed by their Hausa-Fulani allies. 18. In frustration, they have realized that we are who we are. Imagine their frustration! Never mind all Yoruba masterminded psychological attacks on Igbos disparaging us in any way they can. 19. Yes, Federal government policy has made them the tycoons of oil and gas, telecommunications, insurance and manufacturing. Oh, their Hausa-Fulani cum military allies gave Nigeria to Obasanjo for 8 years in keeping faith with their alliance. 20. Bola Tinubu is struggling for Awolowo mantle by forming an alliance of etho- religious jingoistic to ensure power keeps rotating between Yoruba and Hausa- Fulani. Where is the position of the Igbo and other tribes in Nigeria. |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by raumdeuter: 3:36pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
donjazet:
Rumdeuter! never have I been so disappointed in you. I know you chat a lot of bullocks as a person, especially in sports related issues, but I just put it down to you being a jester by nature, I am usually intrigued by your perceived brilliance on international politics and affairs but to find out that you are this tribalistic and myopic on ethnicity is very disappointing.
I never thought you would debase yourself and be this shallow on this divisive issue. I usually expect intelligent folks to be devoid of sentimental bias and analyze objectively.
WHAT A PITY! Hey guy, I dont know you beyond the pages of this forum and I have no apologies or explanation to give you If you call me a tribalist then thats OK. Whatever rocks your boat, I am not posting to get your approval or your likes 7 Likes |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by Nobody: 3:46pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
donjazet:
Raumdeuter! never have I been so disappointed in you. I know you chat a lot of bullocks as a person, especially in sports related issues, but I just put it down to you being a jester by nature, I am usually intrigued by your perceived brilliance on international politics and affairs but to find out that you are this tribalistic and myopic on ethnicity is very disappointing.
I never thought you would debase yourself and be this shallow on this divisive issue. I usually expect intelligent folks to be devoid of sentimental bias and analyze objectively.
WHAT A PITY! Lol. You never see anything. |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by simplycarro: 3:59pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
Jan 1966 = Igbo coup July 1996 = Northern coup
End of discussion 4 Likes
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Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by Dedetwo(m): 4:16pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
bakynes:
Nigerians didn't need to attach any ethnic colouration because Northern soldiers were removing Northern leaders. Counter Wat I said with facts if you have any. I guess Ironsi was a northern leader. Why are most Nigerians inherently loudmouthed? |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by raumdeuter: 4:31pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
Dedetwo:
I guess Ironsi was a northern leader. Why are most Nigerians inherently loudmouthed? July 1966 was a Northern coup and they embraced it only Ibos are denying Jan 1966 coup like cowards 5 Likes |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by bakynes(m): 4:36pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
Dedetwo:
I guess Ironsi was a northern leader. Why are most Nigerians inherently loudmouthed? U b mumu did anybody remove Azikiwe through a Coup?The Muritala coup wasn't it Dimka a fellow Northerner that removed his fellow kinsman and so on and so forth. It was Northern soldiers removing Northern head of state thereafter. So you don't need to term that any Ethnic colouration. Except the Ironsi coup and that one too is termed a Northern coup nobody denies it even the Northerners don't deny it unlike the Igbos who denies the first coup as Igbo coup. 4 Likes |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by Dedetwo(m): 4:49pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
bakynes:
U b mumu did anybody remove Azikiwe through a Coup? The Muritala coup wasn't it Dimka a fellow Northerner that removed his fellow kinsman and so on and so forth. It was Northern soldiers removing Northern head of state thereafter. So you don't need to term that any Ethnic colouration. Except the Ironsi coup and that one too is termed a Northern coup nobody denies it even the Northerners don't deny it unlike the Igbos who denies the first coup as Igbo coup. It take one silly mumu to call another person mumu. You definitely do not need my help in the half-cooked education you received. You appear below the human intellect therefore must disappear. Again was Gen. Ironsi a regional head or Nigerian Head of State? Azikiwe was the President of Nigeria and Commander in Chief of the Nigerian Armed Forces when he was overthrown in January 15, 1966. Why was the coup branded Igbo coup if we should adhere to the silly indices you have foolishly indicated? |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by donjazet(m): 4:58pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
raumdeuter:
Hey guy, I dont know you beyond the pages of this forum and I have no apologies or explanation to give you
If you call me a tribalist then thats OK. Whatever rocks your boat, I am not posting to get your approval or your likes No you're not posting to please anyone but you're definitely posting to sound reasonable and to be seen as such. You saying ''igbo's are smart and and think everyone else is foolish'' not only sounds unreasonable but highly tribalistic and full of ethnical sentimental bias. Perceived intellects shouldn't join the bandwagon in parading such divisive ethnic sentiments. You should know better than generalizing an a character trait to a whole group. Do you sincerely believe most IGBO'S look down on all Yoruba's and the other many ethnic groups? That not many igbos are accomodating and open hearted?? That there are not many down to earth people amongst the igbos? So why make such a statement. You may not want or need to please anyone but your actions have betrayed whatever intellectual reputation anyone might have had of you. |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by raumdeuter: 5:04pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
donjazet: No you're not posting to please anyone but you're definitely posting to sound reasonable and to be seen as such. You saying ''igbo's are smart and and think everyone else is foolish'' not only sounds unreasonable but highly tribalistic and full of ethnical sentimental bias.
Perceived intellects shouldn't join the bandwagon in parading such divisive ethnic sentiments. You should know better than generalizing an a character trait to a whole group. Do you sincerely believe most IGBO'S look down on all Yoruba's and the other many ethnic groups? That not many igbos are accomodating and open hearted?? That there are not many down to earth people amongst the igbos? So why make such a statement. You may not want or need to please anyone but your actions have betrayed whatever intellectual reputation anyone might have had of you. Intellectual reputation? WHo cares about that type of rubbish. What is tribalism to you is ok to others. So like I said, If it offends you then tough luck. And if you call me a tribalist, why should I argue or dispute your claims, you have a right to it 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by bakynes(m): 5:05pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
Dedetwo:
It take one silly mumu to call another person mumu. You definitely do not need my help in the half-cooked education you received. You appear be low on human intellect therefore you must disappear. Again was Gen. Ironsi a regional head or Nigerian Head of State? Azikiwe was the President of Nigeria and Commander in Chief of the Nigerian Armed Forces when he was overthrown in January 15, 1966. Why was the coup branded Igbo coup if we should adhere to the silly indices you have foolishly indicated?
U better shut up, why did you quickly remove Azikiwe from your post, it shows who the real mumu is. Azikiwe that was tipped off about the coup and refuse to come back even after his leave has elapsed. Hahaha una no get anything to justify una wickedness na only insults. By the way you writing to a Msc holder and just started my Ph.D programme from the same Top British school. 5 Likes |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by diggz: 5:20pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
raumdeuter:
Intellectual reputation? WHo cares about that type of rubbish. What is tribalism to you is ok to others. So like I said, If it offends you then tough luck.
And if you call me a tribalist, why should I argue or dispute your claims, you have a right to it Lol...Dayo sha ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by coolscott(m): 5:28pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
igbodefender:
Perhaps, you are putting words into the mouth of the dead. Coups are painful for everyone. I wish I could understand what you are trying to say. My lecturers are alive and well in Umuhia, Michael Okapara university of agriculture. What the coupists said (and did) were well documented for everyone to see. Will be nice if you can make an identifiable and logically connected point 2 Likes |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by Nobody: 9:46pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
coolscott:
I wish I could understand what you are trying to say. My lecturers are alive and well in Umuhia, Michael Okapara university of agriculture. What the coupists said (and did) were well documented for everyone to see.
Will be nice if you can make an identifiable and logically connected point My point is...maybe your lecturers lied to you. |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by Dedetwo(m): 9:59pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
raumdeuter:
July 1966 was a Northern coup and they embraced it only Ibos are denying Jan 1966 coup like cowards You simply cannot help yourself with dumbass statements. It might get to become eastern coup instead Igbo coup as most dingbats from Niger-Area has forgone concluded. |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by Dedetwo(m): 10:09pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
bakynes:
U better shut up, why did you quickly remove Azikiwe from your post, it shows who the real mumu is.
Azikiwe that was tipped off about the coup and refuse to come back even after his leave has elapsed.
Hahaha una no get anything to justify una wickedness na only insults.
By the way you writing to a Msc holder and just started my Ph.D programme from the same Top British school. I did remove Azikwe in order to rhyme with your foolish endeavor. Since you presumed that coups should have ethnic color if the head of state is removed by members of ethnic nationality other than that of the president. You have idiotically adjudged that January 15, 1966 was Igbo coup yet the President and Commander in Chief of the armed forces was an Igbo son. Again, you have moronically deduced that subsequent coups that followed July 29, 1966 coup could not be tagged with ethnical nationality because Fulani, Kanuri, Hausawa, Nupe, Tiv, Birom, Jukuns etc were removing one of theirs. What a country. |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by raumdeuter: 10:09pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
Dedetwo:
You simply cannot help yourself with dumbass statements. It might get to become eastern coup instead Igbo coup as most dingbats from Niger-Area has forgone concluded. Dendemorron you cant just help your retardded and senile self Let me help you July 1966 coup was a Hausa coup just like Jan 1966 was an Ibo coup. Ibo brought the culture of coups into Nigeria 4 Likes |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by Dedetwo(m): 12:39am On Jul 01, 2017 |
raumdeuter:
Dendemorron you cant just help your retardded and senile self
Let me help you
July 1966 coup was a Hausa coup just like Jan 1966 was an Ibo coup. Ibo brought the culture of coups into Nigeria Please do not continue to sink your silly self in ignorant pit of idiocy while trying very hard to look smart. None of the leaders of July 29, 1967 was a Hausawa. You do not even know the ethnic composition of your dumbass country. When did you sink this low? |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by raumdeuter: 2:18am On Jul 01, 2017 |
Dedetwo:
Please do not continue to sink your silly self in ignorant pit of idiocy while trying very hard to look smart. None of the leaders of July 29, 1967 was a Hausawa. You do not even know the ethnic composition of your dumbass country. When did you sink this low? The leaders of the coup include Abacha, Buhari, Murtala Mohammed But useless senile degenrate like you dreaming of the Biafran cesspit wont realize 1 Like |
Re: The January 1966 Coup Was Not An Igbo Coup- Zikistmovement.com by raumdeuter: 3:36am On Jul 01, 2017 |
Their efforts nonetheless, there were insinuations that Ironsi had become hostage to a secret set of advisers whosome alleged were mostly Igbo. Among them were Francis Nwokedi, a former permanent secretary in the Ministry of External Affairs; Pius Okigbo, who advised him on economic matters, and Lt. Col Patrick Anwunah. Ironsi, on May 24, made a nationwide broadcast affirming the Unification Decree a move that quickly led to riots across many parts of Northern Nigeria. About the same time, despite a moratorium on promotions, the military announced the promotion of 25 military officers mostly of the ranks of Major and Lt. Cols. Of the 25, 19 were either Igbo or Midwesterners; five were from the North, and one was Yoruba.Properly interrogated, the promotions were seen to be deserving to all, but it was believed to be another image disaster for the Ironsi regime as it portrayed the new regime as trying to consolidate on the Igbo gains from the January 15 coup. http://allafrica.com/stories/201607290903.html 1 Like |