MediumStout:
It's a shame that the whole industrious igbo tribe has been reduced to mere Unity beggars by that fool called Nnamdi Kanu. There are so many evidences to show that he has violated his bail conditions. Osinbajo is too soft for my liking. If Buhari were in the country, the army and DSS would have invaded Kanu's family house to Re-arrest the compound fool

Go and hug transformer busy body,u won't mind ur oduduwa,.

Start with EQUAL number of states in each region, and equl number of LGAs in each state, then you can talk of LGA autunomy as a form of restructuring.

Start with the renounciation of fulani herdsmen who have been going about killing and wiping out communities for years (yet none has been arrested let alone being prosecuted), before you ask igbos in the north to renounce kanu and biafra.

You justify your youths' illegal ultimatum yet hypocritically ask igbos to renounce biafra despite decades of unbridled institutional injustice against them.

Unrepentant agents of of oporession and injustice.

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To all the igbos in the north and their deluded one nigeria apologists, I hope you are reading the veiled threat in this interview. Ndi be anyi siri na "ukpara okpoko gburu, obu nti tiri ya"

Blizzy9ja:
A barren north that cannot even do without the Igbo's or stand on their own will be chest beating, dishing out threats and counter threats

Yo sorry ass is gon be dumped priddy soon

pride comes first before destruction, my bible said that


northerners can't do without Igbo? could u elaborate your baby statement with a logical expression?



so if you achieve your Biafra, the north would vanished, right? I don't want to believe the person that posted this above comment is above 18yrs?

Several South-East leaders have spoken out against IPOB in the past so I don't know what he's talking about... First they were saying that the independence movement is only lead by a few unemployed nobodies with no influence in Igboland and now they're saying that South-Eastern governors are complicit in it- which narrative is it?

Adebowale89:




pride comes first before destruction, my bible said that


northerners can't do without Igbo? could u elaborate your baby statement with a logical expression?



so if you achieve your Biafra, the north would vanished, right? I don't want to believe the person that posted this above comment is above 18yrs?

You dey mind am? If oil producing states are talking, parasites will not keep quiet. Apart from earning livings in the north, which they (igbos) are comfortable with, what do they do in the north to make them indispensable? Infact, honestly speaking, Northerners want them out as the north is obviously no longer comfortable with their ways.

With one part of your mouth you want them out, with the other part you want one indivisible nigeria. Confusion personified.

nextprince:

You dey mind am? If oil producing states are talking, parasites will not keep quiet. Apart from earning livings in the north, which they (igbos) are comfortable with, what do they do in the north to make them indispensable? Infact, honestly speaking, Northerners want them out as the north is obviously no longer comfortable with their ways.

paschu:
With one part of your mouth you want them out, with the other part you want one indivisible nigeria. Confusion personified.

If you are not suffering from acute comprehension deficiency, explain how this crapy deduction was made from my comment.

Many stakeholders want the National Conference Committee headed by Dr. Femi Okunrounmu to critically study and tap from the report of the 2006 conference organised in Lagos by the Pro-National Conference Organisation (PRONACO). MUSA ODOSHIMOKHE examines the draft Peoples’ Constitution and its implications for federalism.

The proposed National Conference has continued to elicit passion. The views canvassed by the stakeholders suggest that they want the government to revisit the report of the previous conferences. The popular belief is that these reports, which were dumped in waste bins, have critically addressed the national question and proffered solutions to the crisis of lopsided federalism.

In 2006, the Pro-National Conference Organisation (PRONACO) led by the late Chief Anthony Enahoro held a ‘Conference of Ethnic Nationalities’ in Lagos. But the report was rejected by the Federal Government, which also organised another conference in Abuja. The report of the Abuja Conference was also sacrificed on the alter of the ‘third term’. The PRONACO members believe that, if the report of the Lagos Conference is implemented, the country will move forward in its quest for peaceful co-existence, national unity and stability.

Many political leaders have reasoned that, since a lot of energy and resources were invested in the previous dialogues, the reports can be visited in the national interest. The All Progressives Congress (APC) leader, Senator Bola Tinubu, who reflected on the previous efforts, called on the government to revisit the reports. He said, although the 2006 Abuja Conference collapsed, following the third term manipulation, it was wrong to dump the robust and novel proposals.

Also, at the recent stakeholders’ meeting organised by the Okunrounmu Panel, a PRONACO chieftain, the late Baba Omojola, urged the committee to revisit the 2006 report, which he said, met the yearnings of Nigerians agitating for a Sovereign National Conference (SNC).

The PRONACO report validated the necessity for a federal system of government. But, noting that the federal arrangement is skewed, it made proposals for true federalism.

Also, the PRONACO draft anticipates a country where the rule of law will be the barometer, rights will be defended by the constitution and liberty and justice will not be compromised.

Geo-political structure

PRONACO proposed a federal country of “18 nationality-based regions”. These federating units, according to the organisation, should be constituted based on their peculiar identities and cultural contiguity. Power should also be devolved to the units to prevent over centralisation of power at the centre. Under the regions, states, provinces and local governments are also expected to flourish.

According to PRONACO, the region should have powers to create states and local councils, based on the demand for them by the grassroots. The conference however, advocated for the recognition of ethnic nationalities as a tier of government, if they have the numerical strength and resources either at the council, state or regional level.

PRONACO also said that two or more ethnic nationalities could form a state, if they are contiguous. If this is explored, it could foster economic cooperation and infrastructural development.

Also, the federating units, in exercising their autonomy and right to self determination, should be at liberty to secede whenever they are no longer satisfied with the federation. This should be in line with universally supervised plebiscite by the United Nations. However, many stakeholders are against this proposal. Thus, at the proposed conference, the negotiability of the unity of Nigeria will still be a contentious issue.

Fiscal arrangement

PRONACO also suggested that “not more than 15 per cent” should be paid as taxes to the central government from all revenues. This should be managed by a mechanism approved by the law, constituted by the central and regional governments. Also, in the report, the conference proposed that “not more than 35 per cent” should be designed as the distributable revenue.

According to PRONACO, the revenue distribution formula should be based on 15 per cent of the total revenue on first line charge account and two percent of total revenue as special rehabilitation fund for past devastation arising from acts and omission of state.

However, the balance should be distributed as follow: 50 per cent derivation, 36 per cent to the distributable pool and 15 per cent to Federal Government.

The organisation also proposed that the regions should manage all resources found within their respective boundaries, with consideration given to the local, regional, national and international boundaries.

PRONACO has also consistently argued that the regions should be entitled to constitutional autonomy. But it also canvassed a first line charge towards the provision of education, healthcare, housing, full employment, unemployment allowance, living allowance for the aged, disabled, physically and mentally challenged and environment preservation.

System of government

To PRONACO, parliamentary system is better than presidential system. But, it stressed that the cabinet system should have the following features: one Federal House of Representatives, a ceremonial President, and a Prime Minister elected from his constituency. Also, the group advocated sanctions for carpet crossing, including the automatic loss of seat.

Citizenship rights and ethics

The report suggested a solution to the indigene/settler conflict by proposing that every Nigerian has the right to reside anywhere in the country and enjoy all the basic socio-economic rights in his in his or her place of residence.

However, it noted that a person cannot enjoy citizenship rights in two different states/regions simultaneously as residency should be the basis for enjoying such rights. For example, a Nigerian woman married to a man of different origin should reserve the right to choose her spouse’s place of origin, it added.

Social and economic rights

According to the report, “there shall be equal right to education to a minimum of first degree. The right to food, basic healthcare, shelter and employment shall be enshrined in the constitution and made enforceable in the law courts.

“In order to maintain the sanctity of the human person, the death penalty should be abrogated. The constitution shall guarantee the right to adequate compensation to every Nigerian citizen whose property is destroyed as a result of religious or communal violence and natural disaster.

“Government shall investigate the killing of every Nigerian due to religious or ethnic conflict and prosecute those persons responsible”.

Religious rights

PRONACO proposed Nigeria “a secular state in letter and spirit”, stressing that “the resources of the country shall not in any way be used to promote the cause of any religion”. The group said that Sharia and customary court should exist strictly for private and consensual matters. “Aspect of the Sharia law to be applied in any part of the country must not violate either the letter or the spirit of any other laws of the federation”, it added.

Rights of the disadvantaged

“The constitution should not discriminate against any Nigerian either on the grounds of sex, gender, ethnicity, race or disability and should guarantee the rights of people with disability.

“It shall be mandatory on all tier of government to provide adequate and appropriate facilities and resources for the well being of people with disability. It shall be mandatory on all tiers of government to make all public facilities and spaces including walk ways and disability friendly material to the disabled”.

Defence and security services

PRONACO stated in the report that “the power of the defense and security shall be shared and federated”, adding that “a directorate of each of the defense and security services shall be under the control and management of the federal, regional, state, provincial board or council respectively”.

“The federal army, air force, navy board shall consist of representatives’ officers from each of the regions and with the service chief being rotated among the regions periodically”, it added.

Police administration

PRONACO called for a decentralised police to enable the central government, the regions, states, local governments and communities exercise the right to set up and maintain their own police services.

“Each police service shall have exclusive jurisdiction in its own territory subject to the fact that federal police shall be responsible for crime falling under exclusive matters.

“Where there is a cross territorial interest or conflict, the territories involved shall jointly resolve such interest or conflict failing which the next higher of the service shall intervene”.

Electoral commission

“The Electoral Commission shall be responsible for conducting election into House of Representatives at every level of government. The commission shall be composed of representatives of all the political parties.

“The Regional Electoral Commission shall be conducted into state and State Electoral Commission shall conduct elections into local governments.

“The voting shall be voting system adopted in 1993 election (the open secret ballot ‘Option A4’). PRONACO kicks against the adoption electronic voting system”.

Judiciary

The draft emphasised that, at the federal level, there should be a Court of Appeal and Supreme Court. The Judicial Commission should recommend three nominees to the Presidency from whom one candidate would be taken and ratified by the parliament.

The Parliament shall confirm the appointee. The composition of the Federal Judicial Commission shall be as follows: the Chief Justice of Nigeria who shall be the chairperson. The next most senior Justice of the Supreme Court shall be deputy chairperson.

The National Judicial Commission shall recommend to the executive branch who shall forward it to the parliament for action if such appointment would be terminated.

Economy

But PRONACO’s proposal for a well balanced economy, which is neither totally capitalist nor socialist, is controversial and confusing. According to the organisation, the proposed “balance economy” will reflect “the summation of both principles on a home grown model”.

“The country shall run a mix economy, subject to the principle of fiscal federalism. Economic policies shall not facilitate or enable the concentration of wealth and means of production in the hands of individuals.

“The primary objectives of economic policies and management shall be the continuous and sustainable increment in the quality of the life and competitive capacity of Nigeria and Nigerians”.

Anybody can talk as he want or say anything as long as divorce is allowed, Biafra is reality. Those that form the bokoharam and helmsmen in the north bombing and killing should first disassociate themselves before telling mere protesters to stop.

Blizzy9ja:
A barren north that cannot even do without the Igbo's or stand on their own will be chest beating, dishing out threats and counter threats

Yo sorry ass is gon be dumped priddy soon

Shout up! Define the word'barren'

Blizzy9ja:
A barren north that cannot even do without the Igbo's or stand on their own will be chest beating, dishing out threats and counter threats

Yo sorry ass is gon be dumped priddy soon

Shout up! Define the word'barren'

Blizzy9ja:
A barren north that cannot even do without the Igbo's or stand on their own will be chest beating, dishing out threats and counter threats

Yo sorry ass is gon be dumped priddy soon

Shout up! Define the word'barren'

Papa Dasuki, the above draft resolutions from PRONACO is a good place to start.
There is no ambiguity about the term "restructuring" , misdirection is the trade mark of the Nigerian establishment which you represent.
Your almighty Britain recognises you can't make much progress in a multiethnic nation if the ethnic constituents are constantly at loggerheads with each other, that's why you have the UK with considerable power devolved to the ethnic nations.
This una grandstanding will not take us anywhere, it hasn't gotten any better since the civil war, the prospects aren't looking bright either.

nextprince:

Go and tell Pakistanis to apply for Indian visa or vice versa.

You probably thought that was clever retort but they already do. Second India and Pakistan don't have porus border.

Blue3k:


You probably thought that was clever retort but they already do. Second India and Pakistan don't have porus border.

India and Pakistan are worst of enemies, there is nothing like that. Infact, if you have Pakistani visa stamp in your passport, I doubt if India will give you theirs even if you are not a Pakistani, go and find out, everything is not about the immediate monetary benefit, you don't compromise your security for peanuts. Besides, giving of visa is subject to diplomatic relation between countries not one yeye UN Charter or any other rubbish.
Meanwhile, Pakistan used to be part of India. Even if borders are porous, any illegal immigrant capitalising on that will be appropriately sanctioned if apprehended. Also, what makes you think borders wouldn't be tightened when the govt will now be conscious of its borders. Let's wait and see how it goes while I pray for the expedition of actions.

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ipob[s]arecriminals:
Kanu is a fraudster,opportunist.He simply want to ruin the life of igbo youth.Ndigbo people is/are different to the Hopeless hypob yoots.Ndigbo youth don't support Kanu.(Ipob yoots are sacrificial dumb lambs.These ones are total slaves,they can even roll on the floor/sniff Kanu Gaseous exchange,They are blind bats.and aggressive).Let see if common sense go avail them to reason well. I see that fraudster back to his cage soon.

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ipobarecriminals:
Kanu is a fraudster,opportunist.He simply want to ruin the life of igbo youth.Ndigbo people is/are different to the Hopeless hypob yoots.Ndigbo youth don't support Kanu.(Ipob yoots are sacrificial dumb lambs.These ones are total slaves,they can even roll on the floor/sniff Kanu Gaseous exchange,They are blind bats.and aggressive).Let see if common sense go avail them to reason well. I see that fraudster back to his cage soon.

your waste of sperm I pity ur family because people like u are nothing but jobless analyst. douchbag

nextprince:

India and Pakistan are worst of enemies, there is nothing like that. Prove me wrong. Pakistan used to be part of India. Even if borders are porous, any illegal immigrant capitalising on that will be appropriately sanctioned if apprehended.

You should talk less and research more. Yes the both have visa programs with eachother. The only thing they do is process eachhothers visa slower than other countries. I'll link you to relevant websites. Lol Nigeria hardly knows who is who. It's only in this administration the are starting to take issue serious.

http://www.dgip.gov.pk/Files/VisaforIndian.aspx

https://www.hciottawa.ca/pages.php?id=132

Blue3k:


You should talk less and research more. Yes the both have visa programs with eachother. I'll link you to website. Lol Nigeria hardly knows who is who. It's only in this administration the are starting to take issue serious.

http://www.dgip.gov.pk/Files/VisaforIndian.aspx

https://www.hciottawa.ca/pages.php?id=132

I'm talking of reality on ground you are bringing in one site. If you care to know, a Pakistani dares not move around within India now.
India has no high commission in Pakistan and vice versa, so how are visas issued? Or you simply buy it from the market?
Go and find out the outcome of Shimla, agra and lahore summit.

Recent Nairaland syndrome: ( This is supposed to be a social media not a Tribal Media against perceived Enemy)

Move every anti-IPOB Thread to FP,
Leave every pro IPOB/IGBO Thread in its sections
Move every Igbo Divisional Thread to FP, including turning Church issue to Igbo Tribal Problem
Delete completely every Northern Thread Against Yorubas,

nextprince:


I talking of reality on ground you are bringing in one site. If you care to know, a Pakistani dares not move around within India now.

You still wrong either way btw I noticed you changed goal post. Pakistani live in India in lesser numbers than Indians live in Pakistan. Fact is Pakistan less restrictive which isn't saying much. Lol you want to inform me after though in out a buck of nonsense information. You didn't even know these two nations offer eachother visas.

https://qz.com/926009/there-are-more-indian-migrants-living-in-pakistan-than-the-united-states/

http://m.timesofindia.com/city/bareilly/Now-22-Pakistani-nationals-to-become-Indian-citizens-soon/articleshow/50410182.cms

Blue3k:


You still wrong either way btw I noticed you changed goal post. Pakistani live in India in lesser numbers than Indians live in Pakistan. Fact is Pakistan less restrictive which isn't saying much. Lol you want to inform me after though in out a buck of nonsense information. You didn't even know these two nations offer eachother visas.

https://qz.com/926009/there-are-more-indian-migrants-living-in-pakistan-than-the-united-states/

http://m.timesofindia.com/city/bareilly/Now-22-Pakistani-nationals-to-become-Indian-citizens-soon/articleshow/50410182.cms

Even a non Pakistani with Pakistan visa stamp on his passport cannot be given Indian visa less speak of a full blown Pakistani, go and find out, even from Indian embassy in Nigeria. I no fit shout.

nextprince:

Even a non Pakistani with Pakistan visa stamp on his passport cannot be given Indian visa less speak of a full blown Pakistani, go and find out, even from Indian embassy in Nigeria. I no fit shout.

Lol your not fit to talk on issue. Pakistani nations live in India and they are getting Citezenship. It's sad you haven't got 1 fact right .I gave you links from both countries proving you wrong and you want to front for thread. The level of misinformation is sad.

nextprince:
India has no high commission in Pakistan and vice versa, so how are visas issued? Or you simply buy it from the market? 

You could have done a google search to know this is wrong. talk about buying market. Stop talking about issues you haven't read about.

nototribalist:
All Northerners should disassociate from Allah first

You are a complete animal !!!.Allah is God in Arabic language and not what you meant.I am an Igbo man and will remain in Nigeria cos it won't be better the other side

I haven't heard this Northerners renounce these herdsmen who have caused conflict in the Middle Belt and South.

Let these Northerners renounce the herdsmen and the Arewa "Youth."

origima:



You are a complete animal !!!.Allah is God in Arabic language and not what you meant.I am an Igbo man and will remain in Nigeria cos it won't be better the other side

don't fool yourself bro cos your not an Igbo man

Paperwhite:
[/b]"From all indications, the Fulani have been stigmatised as result of constant killings alleged to have been perpetrated by the herdsmen (cuts in)
The Fulani have been stigmatised; the herdsmen have also become a brand for all manner of criminals. In Benue State, we have seen a situation where there is ethnic provocation and fight and they have used the name Fulani herdsmen as a basis to cover up the various crimes the security agencies have been able to prove in some instances there. When there was a problem with the Agatu, some people said 500 Agatu were killed. How do you kill 500 people and no one was arrested? So, these are some of the challenges we have been getting and we hope that security agencies would be able to deal with the situation."[b] Can we all see the more reason why Nigeria is and will forever remain a shithole with morons like this man? .That is how the living-dead Buhari said the marauding & destructive Fulani herdsmen are natives of Mali & Niger violating the sovereignty of Nigeria but can't be apprehended by the zoo's security agents
@ Topic-So the backward emir expects the servitude to continue Unity in Nigeria only means when the north is in power.We can't and won't continue this way.

You call ppl backward; yet if you were not so backward yourself, you would have easily realised from the man's unmissable clearly provided political profile, at the beginning of the article, that he was in fact not an Emir but a Junior minister in the Yar Aduwa govt.

Likewise, you would have also noticed how the man was cleverly coaxed into making the Fulani statement by the the interviewer's own loaded question, which presumed that the Fulani were stigmatised in the first place - unfortunately, your bigotry has rendered you blind, unreasonable and apparently incapable of basic English comprehension.

Blue3k:


Lol your not fit to talk on issue. Pakistani nations live in India and they are getting Citezenship. It's sad you haven't got 1 fact right .I gave you links from both countries proving you wrong and you want to front for thread. The level of misinformation is sad.



You could have done a google search to know this is wrong. talk about buying market. Stop talking about issues you haven't read about.

Abeg I no fit shout, bye.

Sharming95:
Who finish am....make him summarise

That is a northerner, speaking in tongues in favor of his region.

Through out the whole thrash above, he did not condemn AREWA but have to condemned South south and southeast people and maxi Nnmadi Kanu Biafrans generally.

He did not even condemn boko haram and Fulani's herdsmen atrocities and Buhari APC bad governance.

nextprince:

Abeg I no fit shout, bye.

Bye I'm glad you're finally going to stop pollutanting the thread with nonsense. It's been fun warching you shift goal post and expose self as uncredible.

Igbo's in the North do not have to dissociate themselves from people they have not pledged any allegiance to in the first place

Hausa Fulani people need to stop intimidating Igbos in the North!

MediumStout:
It's a shame that the whole industrious igbo tribe has been reduced to mere Unity beggars by that fool called Nnamdi Kanu. There are so many evidences to show that he has violated his bail conditions. Osinbajo is too soft for my liking. If Buhari were in the country, the army and DSS would have invaded Kanu's family house to Re-arrest the compound fool

Anyone that insult Kanu my husband will die
It might sound like a joke to u

mancanoe:
This sarrki no the tire for biafra matter?

He is afraid of what will happen to him if is actualized, hence he fights against it.