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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 9:02am On May 01
Danibestguy:
Hello. I have a 24v 100ah lifepo4 battery.
Constant load - 240w which is just a fridge and a fan.
I want to get an inverter to match it. I'm also planning on getting panels later on.
Please note that we get up to 8hrs of grid light daily.
Is it advisable to get an hybrid inverter ?
Considering that I'm staying in a rented apartment(limited space), will 2 500/550w panels in series be enough?


Budget is 500k.

Hybrids are here to stay and have stood the test of time already. why are people still contemplating?
Hybrid gives you an Inverter, Charger, and MPPT, cheaper than any standalone.

example with 250K. you can have
a 3kva inverter with 60A charger,
80A MPPT, go and price stand-alone equivalent.

Hybrid allows you to customize slightly when grid charge, how much grid charge, when Solarcharge, Only Solar charge during the day and Grid charge in the night, etc. with standalone, you need to have good know-how and other tools to achieve these.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Jefferyzz(m): 9:22am On May 01
2 440w - 260k
1 powmr mppt - 103k
3000w easure sachet inverter - 92k
Cables n odas - 70k
Transport - 10-20k
This is most likely Ur cheapest route
Danibestguy:
Hello. I have a 24v 100ah lifepo4 battery.
Constant load - 240w which is just a fridge and a fan.
I want to get an inverter to match it. I'm also planning on getting panels later on.
Please note that we get up to 8hrs of grid light daily.
Is it advisable to get an hybrid inverter ?
Considering that I'm staying in a rented apartment(limited space), will 2 500/550w panels in series be enough?


Budget is 500k.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 9:29am On May 01
Jefferyzz:
2 440w - 260k
1 powmr mppt - 103k
3000w easure sachet inverter - 92k
Cables n odas - 70k
Transport - 10-20k
This is most likely Ur cheapest route

so he won't use grid or charge with the grid?
he will have to use ATS or changeover just like generator
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Danibestguy: 9:30am On May 01
Dam5reey:


Hybrids are here to stay and have stood the test of time already. why are people still contemplating?
Hybrid gives you an Inverter, Charger, and MPPT, cheaper than any standalone.

example with 250K. you can have
a 3kva inverter with 60A charger,
80A MPPT, go and price stand-alone equivalent.

Hybrid allows you to customize slightly when grid charge, how much grid charge, when Solarcharge, Only Solar charge during the day and Grid charge in the night, etc. with standalone, you need to have good know-how and other tools to achieve these.
Alright. Thanks.
But can 2 500w panels start those inverters? If it can, will it charge at all?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Danibestguy: 9:33am On May 01
Jefferyzz:
2 440w - 260k
1 powmr mppt - 103k
3000w easure sachet inverter - 92k
Cables n odas - 70k
Transport - 10-20k
This is most likely Ur cheapest route
What about cloudy days... Incase I want to use the grid to charge. And can those panels charge the batteries fully? Let assume I just use to 50 dod.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Sapiosexuality(m): 9:38am On May 01
obitobe:


please use your old charge controller and leave out the in-bult charge controller
Leave it? Why?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 9:39am On May 01
Danibestguy:

Alright. Thanks.
But can 2 500w panels start those inverters? If it can, will it charge at all?

There are low Voltage MPPT and there are High Voltage MPPT.
you select based on your needs.

there is 100V MPPT, 2 panels works
150V MPPT, 2 panel works
30-400v MPPT, 2 panels works
60 - 450v MPPT, 2 panels works
90v - 450v MPPT 4 panels or more
120-450v MPPT 6 panels or more.

options plenty.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Danibestguy: 9:43am On May 01
Dam5reey:


There are low Voltage MPPT and there are High Voltage MPPT.
you select based on your needs.

there is 100V MPPT, 2 panels works
150V MPPT, 2 panel works
30-400v MPPT, 2 panels works
60 - 450v MPPT, 2 panels works
90v - 450v MPPT 4 panels or more
120-450v MPPT 6 panels or more.

options plenty.


Do you know any hybrid inverter with those ranges that can easily work with 2 panels? What I've been seeing is nominal voltage of 120v and above.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Sapiosexuality(m): 9:44am On May 01
Dam5reey:


Hybrids are here to stay and have stood the test of time already. why are people still contemplating?
Hybrid gives you an Inverter, Charger, and MPPT, cheaper than any standalone.

example with 250K. you can have
a 3kva inverter with 60A charger,
80A MPPT, go and price stand-alone equivalent.

Hybrid allows you to customize slightly when grid charge, how much grid charge, when Solarcharge, Only Solar charge during the day and Grid charge in the night, etc. with standalone, you need to have good know-how and other tools to achieve these.
Makes sense.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by swagifted(m): 9:50am On May 01
to be honest , if nigeria had net metering and the grid was highly reliable and also the agreement is 1kwh for 1kwh (i supply the grid 1kwh with my solar in the afternoon and the grid gives me back the 1kwh in the night), i will not take a hybrid over an ON grid inverter, the grid is essentially my battery so why spend so much on batteries?....as much as i love hybrids(because nepa too de take light), they don't last as long as on grids only.
Dam5reey:


Hybrids are here to stay and have stood the test of time already. why are people still contemplating?
Hybrid gives you an Inverter, Charger, and MPPT, cheaper than any standalone.

example with 250K. you can have
a 3kva inverter with 60A charger,
80A MPPT, go and price stand-alone equivalent.

Hybrid allows you to customize slightly when grid charge, how much grid charge, when Solarcharge, Only Solar charge during the day and Grid charge in the night, etc. with standalone, you need to have good know-how and other tools to achieve these.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 9:53am On May 01
swagifted:
to be honest , if nigeria had net metering and the grid was highly reliable and also the agreement is 1kwh for 1kwh (i supply the grid 1kwh with my solar in the afternoon and the grid gives me back the 1kwh in the night), i will not take a hybrid over an ON grid inverter, the grid is essentially my battery so why spend so much on batteries?....as much as i love hybrids(because nepa too de take light), they don't last as long as on grids only.

your Don't last is too generic. Provide detailed information.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by swagifted(m): 10:08am On May 01
Dam5reey:


your Don't last is too generic. Provide detailed information.
like i said... Hybrids de reign because nepa too de take light...
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by HeavenlyBang(m): 10:32am On May 01
Danibestguy:


Do you know any hybrid inverter with those ranges that can easily work with 2 panels? What I've been seeing is nominal voltage of 120v and above.

There are. Plenty.

For example, Powmr's datasheet for their 2kva and 3.2kva models.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Danibestguy: 10:40am On May 01
HeavenlyBang:


There are. Plenty.

For example, Powmr's datasheet for their 2kva and 3.2kva models.
So, no need for me to have the nominal voltage of 240dc? Na the nominal dey gimme headache.
See this data sheet as well. According to this data sheet, I can even use the inverter with just a panel right?

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Chikach: 10:49am On May 01
HeavenlyBang:


There are. Plenty.

For example, Powmr's datasheet for their 2kva and 3.2kva models.


Do you sell this hybrid inverter and whats the price
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 11:02am On May 01
Danibestguy:

So, no need for me to have the nominal voltage of 240dc? Na the nominal dey gimme headache.
See this data sheet as well. According to this data sheet, I can even use the inverter with just a panel right?

I have shown you a picture where charging is well with 113V and even less.
and 1.64KW panel deliver 1.47KW at that 111V..
so your 240V nominal headache I don't understand cheesy
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Danibestguy: 11:18am On May 01
Dam5reey:


I have shown you a picture where charging is well with 113V and even less.
and 1.64KW panel deliver 1.47KW at that 111V..
so your 240V nominal headache I don't understand cheesy
Wow. Abeg what's the Voc of the panels and how many panels?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 11:19am On May 01
Danibestguy:

Wow. Abeg what's the Voc of the panels and how many panels?

I provide on pages back..
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by HeavenlyBang(m): 11:37am On May 01
Danibestguy:

So, no need for me to have the nominal voltage of 240dc? Na the nominal dey gimme headache.
See this data sheet as well. According to this data sheet, I can even use the inverter with just a panel right?

Well, you wouldn't be getting the most out of your MPPT.

For example, I have a 3*580w PV setup connected in series and I'm only getting 320w on a cloudy day like this.

Your system will work, but try and add another panel at the very least. If you don't do it now, you'll still need to later on. And it'll be more expensive for you then.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by HeavenlyBang(m): 11:37am On May 01
Chikach:



Do you sell this hybrid inverter and whats the price

I do not. You can order on AliExpress, though, or see if you can find a seller locally.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by toscotech(m): 12:12pm On May 01
Chikach:



Do you sell this hybrid inverter and whats the price

Inverter Use Note:

The Battery Capacity OF The Correct Matching System Is Determined According To The Specific Usage Requirements OF The Load And Application Scenarios, Otherwise It will Easily Lead To Insufficient Battery Capacity Or Excessive Waste OF Power Generation.
Product features: This product can work without batteries, when you don't use the battery, the starting voltage of the solar panel is 150voc, when you connect the 48V battery, the starting voltage of the solar panel is 60voc, which means the solar system can be installed with less budget.

PowMr 6.2kw On-grid/off-grid hybrid inverter 48Vdc 230VAC PV Panel Input 500vdc Pure Sine Wave Solar Inverter 120A MPPT Solar Controller Lithium Battery
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by oweniwe(m): 12:20pm On May 01
Danibestguy:
Hello. I have a 24v 100ah lifepo4 battery.
Constant load - 240w which is just a fridge and a fan.
I want to get an inverter to match it. I'm also planning on getting panels later on.
Please note that we get up to 8hrs of grid light daily.
Is it advisable to get an hybrid inverter ?
Considering that I'm staying in a rented apartment(limited space), will 2 500/550w panels in series be enough?


Budget is 500k.

Brand name: Smarten

Rating: 24v

Charging profile: SMF Lead Acid/Tubular/Lithium

Built in battery charger

Asking price 290k

Location: Asaba but can waybill anywhere you get it same day

Contact: Whatsapp 08104447220

CC: Chikach

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Danibestguy: 12:43pm On May 01
HeavenlyBang:


Well, you wouldn't be getting the most out of your MPPT.

For example, I have a 3*580w PV setup connected in series and I'm only getting 320w on a cloudy day like this.

Your system will work, but try and add another panel at the very least. If you don't do it now, you'll still need to later on. And it'll be more expensive for you then.

The only limitation now is space. Even for the two, it will be tight.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Danibestguy: 12:46pm On May 01
oweniwe:


Brand name: Smarten

Rating: 24v

Charging profile: SMF Lead Acid/Tubular/Lithium

Built in battery charger

Asking price 290k

Location: Asaba but can waybill anywhere you get it same day

Contact: Whatsapp 08104447220

CC: Chikach
Thanks for the offer. Is this hybrid? Besides, I'm located in Lagos.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Danibestguy: 12:48pm On May 01
Dam5reey:


I provide on pages back..

Thank you boss. Your answers have been very helpful.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Ferdiwar: 12:51pm On May 01
Your analysis is wrong.

Hybrid inverters has nothing to do with Nepa not being constant.

Even if you're using a standalone inverter you'll still need a CC to be able to feed to the grid.

swagifted:
like i said... Hybrids de reign because nepa too de take light...
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 12:56pm On May 01
isangjohnson:

I prefer Felicity to SMS

Your phobia for this SMS too much.

I strongly believe SMS Sunmate Inverter will outperform Feli under same condition.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 1:00pm On May 01
Dam5reey:


Hybrids are here to stay and have stood the test of time already. why are people still contemplating?
Hybrid gives you an Inverter, Charger, and MPPT, cheaper than any standalone.

example with 250K. you can have
a 3kva inverter with 60A charger,
80A MPPT, go and price stand-alone equivalent.

Hybrid allows you to customize slightly when grid charge, how much grid charge, when Solarcharge, Only Solar charge during the day and Grid charge in the night, etc. with standalone, you need to have good know-how and other tools to achieve these.

The thing tired me.

Those saying Standalone, if inverter spoil wetin CC Alone go do without engine to convert from battery to load?

Get hybrid and another small kw hybrid as backup when the other dey on repairs finished nothing more.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by oweniwe(m): 1:14pm On May 01
Danibestguy:

Thanks for the offer. Is this hybrid? Besides, I'm located in Lagos.

Inverter and built in battery charger.

You will have to buy external CC

No problem with location.

You will get it few hours after it is sent
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by HeavenlyBang(m): 1:34pm On May 01
Danibestguy:


The only limitation now is space. Even for the two, it will be tight.

See if you can get a single 625w Jinko panel, then.

Take measurements of the space you have. Compare.
Alternative is smaller 250W panels. They actually don't take a lot of space, so you can fit in a fair number of them.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by microgiant: 1:47pm On May 01
Ferdiwar:
Your analysis is wrong.

Hybrid inverters has nothing to do with Nepa not being constant.

Even if you're using a standalone inverter you'll still need a CC to be able to feed to the grid.


He is talking about grid tie inverters, You don't need a CC to feed into the grid, most are even connected to a panel then the house power system. The house loads are powered and excess is feed into the grid which is recorded by the meter. At sundown, the meter reverses feeding back into the house. E.g. if you generate 5kw during the day and use only 1.5kw, 3.5kw is feed to the public utility(electricty company is owning you), at night, you can use the 3.5kw from the utility, and any extra is what you pay for.

The meters in Nigeria, if you feed to public line, your meter will still deduct the units. So which ever way the KW flows, you are charged for it
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by HeavenlyBang(m): 2:30pm On May 01
microgiant:


He is talking about grid tie inverters, You don't need a CC to feed into the grid, most are even connected to a panel then the house power system. The house loads are powered and excess is feed into the grid which is recorded by the meter. At sundown, the meter reverses feeding back into the house. E.g. if you generate 5kw during the day and use only 1.5kw, 3.5kw is feed to the public utility(electricty company is owning you), at night, you can use the 3.5kw from the utility, and any extra is what you pay for.

The meters in Nigeria, if you feed to public line, your meter will still deduct the units. So which ever way the KW flows, you are charged for it

Can you even feed back into the grid in Nigeria?

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