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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 11:58pm On Oct 26, 2013
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by GeorgeD1(m): 6:46am On Oct 28, 2013
all,

see the future of solar power.

we may well start thinking of doing away with those bulky, heavy batteries.

welcome to the world of super capacitors!

welcome to future!!!


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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tivta(m): 4:08pm On Oct 28, 2013
Nice but who wants to be the scape goat? Besides the booster pack has very low run time compared to deep cycle.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by yemionline(m): 11:12am On Nov 02, 2013
fikfik: My current installation:

5KVA CyberPower PRO
HIGH POWER 200 amp/10hr batts x 16
Joy Solar 260W Polycrystalline x 8
eTRACER 60 Amp MPPT Solar Charge controller

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Hi Fikfik nice installation you got there. please how much did u buy your etracer charge controller, joy solar
panels and where can i get it from?
i wannna planing towards joining the solar club as soon as possible. cool
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 3:21am On Nov 03, 2013
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2v 500 ahms Telecomm Batteries

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Mercury 3.5kva 24v Pure sinewave lcd inverter (inbuilt 70ahm intelligent max charger for large battery bank) #charges with Gen unlike Cyberpower,, easy installation unlike cyberpower,,powers heavier appliances"inductive/resistive/motors/rectifier loads" with the help of 40 inbuilt powerful mosfets driving out o/p capacity of 2500w and max surge protect of 7500w under 0.7 power factor

MULTIPOWER Inverters of various KVA (MADE IN INDIA)

All our products come with 1 year Warranty.

CALL NOW FOR SUPPLIES 08135031951 .... THANKS
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 8:05pm On Nov 03, 2013
sorry to raise this issue again...but on another forum some1 told me that my plan to use a 45amp mppt CC with my 250w x 4 24v solar panels on a 12v inverter/battery bank is not good..............that a lot of energy will be wasted at the CC since according to him my panel is 1kw/12v battery bank [since the CC has to down convert the 24v from the panels, to 12v] = 83amps...................and since my mppt CC is only 45amp...the excess 38amps will be wasted.................

I wasn't aware this is so..i tot since the panels are 24v and output 1kw...the max amperage produced will be about 45amps wch the CC has handle ok

pls gurus mek una come helep me o
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pheleix: 11:59am On Nov 04, 2013
earthrealm: sorry to raise this issue again...but on another forum some1 told me that my plan to use a 45amp mppt CC with my 250w x 4 24v solar panels on a 12v inverter/battery bank is not good..............that a lot of energy will be wasted at the CC since according to him my panel is 1kw/12v battery bank [since the CC has to down convert the 24v from the panels, to 12v] = 83amps...................and since my mppt CC is only 45amp...the excess 38amps will be wasted.................

I wasn't aware this is so..i tot since the panels are 24v and output 1kw...the max amperage produced will be about 45amps wch the CC has handle ok

pls gurus mek una come helep me o
He is right...let me break your heart more. You may end up frying your CC or your CC might not work (showing ERROR) as a result of OVER current. For a 12v system the average voltage is 13.33, hence 13.33 x 45=600W this should be ur PV power (watts). With 1000w you will have close to 75A. Reduce your panel to 500w or change your system to a higher voltage say 48V where your PV power should not exceed 2400w.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tivta(m): 1:13pm On Nov 04, 2013
It all depends on the type of cc you are using. According to the manual of outback 80amp cc, it can provide max of 1500watts to a 12v system but recommeds a 1000watts pv setup.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tivta(m): 1:28pm On Nov 04, 2013
Ooops. My bad. You were right about it @ pheleix. I must have been high on hunger. 13.33*80=1066watts. So we are saying the same thing my brother. Good job.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tivta(m): 1:56pm On Nov 04, 2013
George D. Abeg come oh. Am confused. I taught that no matter the rated output of a pv panel, it will give a max of 90percent power. If so 250*90percent=225watts. Therefore 225*4=900watts. That means 4 250watts is still ok right for a 80amp cc?
Pheleix pls correct me if am wrong.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pheleix: 4:09pm On Nov 04, 2013
tivta: George D. Abeg come oh. Am confused. I taught that no matter the rated output of a pv panel, it will give a max of 90percent power. If so 250*90percent=225watts. Therefore 225*4=900watts. That means 4 250watts is still ok right for a 80amp cc?
Pheleix pls correct me if am wrong.

(a) 12V system - 900/13.3333=67.5A

(b) 24V Sys - 900/2(13.3333)=33.75A

(c) 36V system - 900/3(13.3333)=22.5A

(d) 48V system - 900/4(13.3333)=16.88A
For all system you are clear with your your 80A CC

To know the PV limit (in Watts) of your system multiply the capacity of your CC with the average voltage of your system. E.g
For 12V system - 13.3333x80=1066 approx 1000W

For 48v system - 53.3332x80=4266 approx 4200W
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tivta(m): 4:18pm On Nov 04, 2013
pheleix:

(a) 12V system - 900/13.3333=67.5A

(b) 24V Sys - 900/2(13.3333)=33.75A

(c) 36V system - 900/3(13.3333)=22.5A

(d) 48V system - 900/4(13.3333)=16.88A
For all system you are clear with your your 80A CC

To know the PV limit (in Watts) of your system multiply the capacity of your CC with the average voltage of your system. E.g
For 12V system - 13.3333x80=1066 approx 1000W

For 48v system - 53.3332x80=4266 approx 4200W

Thanks. My confussion is actually with the wattage of each pv panel. I mean am i right to assume that each pv panel will produce a maximum capacity of 90percent of its rated output or will it be higher or lower?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 6:23pm On Nov 04, 2013
ok thanks guy for the info..i have 2 options now

1. use only 2units of my 250v 24v panels
or

2. upgrade my inverter/battery bank to a 24v system


the 3rd option of buying an 80amp cc isn't feasible now, cos of cash constraints.
my cc is morning star
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pheleix: 7:44pm On Nov 04, 2013
tivta:

Thanks. My confussion is actually with the wattage of each pv panel. I mean am i right to assume that each pv panel will produce a maximum capacity of 90percent of its rated output or will it be higher or lower?
You're right. Within the range of 80-90%. On this thread I have seen someone with above 90% harvest, Remember that the angle of elevation and azimuth of the panel and shading will affect your output. Not forgetting weather , that 's why on the average you should assume 80%
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pheleix: 8:00pm On Nov 04, 2013
earthrealm: ok thanks guy for the info..i have 2 options now

1. use only 2units of my 250v 24v panels
or

2. upgrade my inverter/battery bank to a 24v system


the 3rd option of buying an 80amp cc isn't feasible now, cos of cash constraints.
my cc is morning star
For now you can go with option 1. But option 2 is better. The lower the system voltage the higher the current on the wires and this causes heating and sometimes fire, hence lower voltage system will require bigger wires 16mm sq and above, and as you can see higher capacity of CC. But the higher system voltage the lower the current. For a system of 45A , 8-12mm will serve depending on the distances involved . Copper is expensive
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TotalGreen: 8:24am On Nov 05, 2013
I assume you are using TriStar TS-MPPT-45

Maximum Battery Current - 45 amps
Nominal Maximum Solar Input for 12 volt - 600 Watts
Maximum Solar Open Circuit Voltage - 150 volts DC

so from the above spec, you would be wasting about 400watts which is not being converted.
If you do the numbers, you would be loosing 30amps at peak.


hope this helps

earthrealm: sorry to raise this issue again...but on another forum some1 told me that my plan to use a 45amp mppt CC with my 250w x 4 24v solar panels on a 12v inverter/battery bank is not good..............that a lot of energy will be wasted at the CC since according to him my panel is 1kw/12v battery bank [since the CC has to down convert the 24v from the panels, to 12v] = 83amps...................and since my mppt CC is only 45amp...the excess 38amps will be wasted.................

I wasn't aware this is so..i tot since the panels are 24v and output 1kw...the max amperage produced will be about 45amps wch the CC has handle ok

pls gurus mek una come helep me o
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TotalGreen: 8:29am On Nov 05, 2013
Option one is "use only ***3UNITS**** of ur 250v 24v panels", the CC max is 600watts.


earthrealm: ok thanks guy for the info..i have 2 options now

1. use only 2units of my 250v 24v panels
or

2. upgrade my inverter/battery bank to a 24v system


the 3rd option of buying an 80amp cc isn't feasible now, cos of cash constraints.
my cc is morning star
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TotalGreen: 8:30am On Nov 05, 2013
Correct... very Correct

pheleix:
For now you can go with option 1. But option 2 is better. The lower the system voltage the higher the current on the wires and this causes heating and sometimes fire, hence lower voltage system will require bigger wires 16mm sq and above, and as you can see higher capacity of CC. But the higher system voltage the lower the current. For a system of 45A , 8-12mm will serve depending on the distances involved . Copper is expensive
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 8:45am On Nov 05, 2013
thnks guys for the info.

@totalgreen..I think u made an error, using 3 units of the 250w panels will give me 750 watts...which is more than my cc can handle....yes its morning star mppt cc.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TotalGreen: 2:45pm On Nov 05, 2013
No Error there, the CC's Nominal Maximum Solar Input for 12 volt - ***600 Watts***, so if you use only 2 panels, that's 500watts which does not maximize the CC.

That's why i recommend 3panels which is 750watts, don't worry when the CC reaches its maximum input it will stop or limits its self, throwing away 150watts.

check out http://www.morningstarcorp.com/en/strings/calc.php

regards




earthrealm: thnks guys for the info.

@totalgreen..I think u made an error, using 3 units of the 250w panels will give me 750 watts...which is more than my cc can handle....yes its morning star mppt cc.


Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 3:53pm On Nov 05, 2013
this the iostar...that made me believe I was correct when I bought the 45amp mppt cc...so its wrong?

Morningstar TriStar MPPT solar controller with TrakStar TechnologyTM is an advanced maximum power point tracking (MPPT) battery charger for off-grid photovoltaic (PV) systems up to 3kW. The controller provides the industry's highest peak efficiency of 99% and significantly less power loss compared to other MPPT controllers. The TriStar TS MPPT 45 features a smart tracking algorithm that maximizes the energy harvest from the PV by rapidly finding the solar array peak power point with extremely fast sweeping of the entire I-V curve. TriStar MPPT TS-MPPT-45 Maximum Battery Current 45 amps Nominal Maximum Solar Input 12 volt 600 Watts 24 volt 1200 Watts 48 volt 2400 Watts Nominal System Voltage 12, 24, 36 or 48 volts DC Maximum Solar Open Circuit Voltage 150 volts DC

http://www.amazon.com/MorningStar-TriStar-TS-MPPT-45-Charge-Controller/dp/B0072804YK/ref=sr_1_sc_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1383663029&sr=8-3-spell&keywords=45amp+m+orning+star+mppt
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 8:55pm On Nov 06, 2013
i understand now...the 24v 1200w is for a 24v battery bank/inverter sytem while the 12v 600w is for a 12v system..sadly that's where mine falls under
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TotalGreen: 10:06pm On Nov 06, 2013
OK Cool


earthrealm: i understand now...the 24v 1200w is for a 24v battery bank/inverter sytem while the 12v 600w is for a 12v system..sadly that's where mine falls under
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 7:10pm On Nov 07, 2013
HURRY HURRY HURRY !!!!!!

PERLIGHT solar panels... 12v 130 watts monocrystalline module » (USA STANDARDS)

PERLIGHT solar panels... 24v 230 watts monocrystalline module » (USA STANDARDS)

TRIUMPH slim vrla telecomm batteries..... 12v 150 ahms (2012 Indian prod)

2v 500 ahms Telecomm Batteries

TEL Series/C& TRUE Front Access® vrla telecomm battteries( www.cdtechno.com )........12v 210FG

Mercury 3.5kva 24v Pure sinewave lcd inverter (inbuilt 70ahm intelligent max charger for large battery bank) #charges with Gen unlike Cyberpower,, easy installation unlike cyberpower,,powers heavier appliances"inductive/resistive/motors/rectifier loads" with the help of 40 inbuilt powerful mosfets driving out o/p capacity of 2500w and max surge protect of 7500w under 0.7 power factor

MULTIPOWER Inverters of various KVA (MADE IN INDIA)

All our products come with 1 year Warranty.

CALL NOW FOR SUPPLIES 08135031951 .... THANKS
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TotalGreen: 8:45pm On Nov 07, 2013
hi
is any one here using Trojan Flooded Battery?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by GeorgeD1(m): 10:16pm On Nov 11, 2013
totalgreen,

i doubt you'll find anyone here with such. in time past i tried to rally members to buy into a deal that would have
significantly lowered the cost of acquiring 6v 480ah trojans direct from the usa but nobody cared for it and the
deal fell through. it was the more reason i had to make do with the zenith batteries i have at the moment.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by GeorgeD1(m): 10:34pm On Nov 11, 2013
all,

after several months of diligent preparation. a couple of disappointments here and there,
i finally made it into the league of high end inverters with my latest upgrade works
over the weekend.

thanks to totalgreen who lent his invaluable assistance in acquiring all the dc breakers and
other accessories. i will always be grateful for his help as a brother indeed.

right now, i'm still in the process of tidying up the installation.

more details coming soon!
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bodejohn(m): 11:20pm On Nov 11, 2013
Anytime Oga Geroge is queit, something must be cooking...we will await the pictures as usual...
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by richmon74(m): 12:29am On Nov 12, 2013
rodgers: just wondering. Is it possible to charge my battery with another inverter using the output from the first inverter. That both inverters are connected to same battery bank, while one is supplying, the other is used to recharge

Yest it is possible but you'll gain nothing. Rather you'll be loosing some current.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DUNKA(m): 6:31am On Nov 12, 2013
George_D: totalgreen,

i doubt you'll find anyone here with such. in time past i tried to rally members to buy into a deal that would have
significantly lowered the cost of acquiring 6v 480ah trojans direct from the usa but nobody cared for it and the
deal fell through. it was the more reason i had to make do with the zenith batteries i have at the moment.
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DUNKA(m): 6:32am On Nov 12, 2013
George_D: all,

after several months of diligent preparation. a couple of disappointments here and there,
i finally made it into the league of high end inverters with my latest upgrade works
over the weekend.

thanks to totalgreen who lent his invaluable assistance in acquiring all the dc breakers and
other accessories. i will always be grateful for his help as a brother indeed. Subscribed

right now, i'm still in the process of tidying up the installation.

more details coming soon!
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tivta(m): 8:55am On Nov 12, 2013
www.solarshopnigeria.com has trojan batteries.

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