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Brighter Grammar by Jairzinho(m): 7:45pm On Feb 05, 2010
Lets develop our english grammar/vocab here,I recently recalled an english textbook we used back in the days. wink

I'll drop a phrase or sentence. . . someone should give us the correct option (with reason of course) smiley


Which is the right option:

1.St James Park

2.St James' Park

3.St Jame's Park
Re: Brighter Grammar by princeohms: 9:47pm On Feb 05, 2010
2. St James' park
Re: Brighter Grammar by Jairzinho(m): 10:50pm On Feb 05, 2010
princeohms:

2. St James' park
Why ? You can drop yours too wink
Re: Brighter Grammar by princeohms: 8:47pm On Feb 06, 2010
cos thats the answer! grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Brighter Grammar by gee2(m): 5:47am On Feb 07, 2010
2 and 3 will work but 2 is most applicable cos for names, the apostrophy can either be in front or back of the letter S.
Re: Brighter Grammar by illusion2: 9:22am On Feb 07, 2010
gee.:

2 and 3 will work but 2 is most applicable cos for names, the apostrophy can either be in front or back of the letter S.
I disagree the name in James,so how can the apostrophy come before the 's' ( St Jame's) ??  ?

It should be St.James'. . . .the apostrophe represents a hidden 's'.

My own phrase:

1. . . . . .  .haven finished his lunch ,he proceeded to the park.


2. . . . . .  .having finished his lunch ,he proceeded  to the park.
Re: Brighter Grammar by violent(m): 1:23pm On Feb 07, 2010
illusion2:

I disagree the name in James,so how can the apostrophy come before the 's' ( St Jame's) ??  ?

It should be St.James'. . . .the apostrophe represents a hidden 's'.

My own phrase:

1. . . . . .  .haven finished his lunch ,he proceeded to the park.


2. . . . . .  .having finished his lunch ,he proceeded  to the park.

The option 2 is right in this case. . . thw word "haven" is mostly used to depict a shelter or a port where ships take or discharge a cargo, as opposed to the continuos term of "have" which explains what happened after he finished his lunch
Re: Brighter Grammar by violent(m): 1:31pm On Feb 07, 2010
Here is mine. . .

1)  . . . share a mango equally, between illusion2, Jairzhino, princeohms, gee and violent

2) . . . . share a mango equally, among  illusion2, Jairzhino, princeohms, gee and violent
Re: Brighter Grammar by Jairzinho(m): 6:28pm On Feb 07, 2010
violent:

The option 2 is right in this case. . . thw word "haven" is mostly used to depict a shelter or a port where ships take or discharge a cargo, as opposed to the continuos term of "have" which explains what happened after he finished his lunch
Spot on ! Many people mix up 'having' & 'haven' in sentences.

violent:

Here is mine. . .

1) . . . share a mango equally, between illusion2, Jairzhino, princeohms, gee and violent

2) . . . . share a mango equally, among illusion2, Jairzhino, princeohms, gee and violent
I will go with No 2. Although both can apply to sharing ,I feel among is more appropriate.
Re: Brighter Grammar by princeohms: 10:44pm On Feb 07, 2010
No 2 is the correct cos ''between is used in an expression that involves two individual while ''among is used in a case involving more than two.
Re: Brighter Grammar by princeohms: 11:02pm On Feb 07, 2010
Now here is mine

1. Tunde and I are going to the cinema
2. Tunde amd I am going to the cinema
Re: Brighter Grammar by illusion2: 8:54am On Feb 08, 2010
princeohms:

Now here is mine

1. Tunde and I are going to the cinema
2. Tunde amd I am going to the cinema
I thnk there's a typo here.
Its quite straight forward tho' (No 1)
Re: Brighter Grammar by princeohms: 9:41am On Feb 08, 2010
@ illusion2,
Yes there is a typo error. It should have been:
1. Tunde and I are going to school
2. Tunde and I am going to school
Re: Brighter Grammar by princeohms: 9:58am On Feb 08, 2010
The correct option is no 2. Tunde and I am going to the cinema. Reason: a verb used in a sentence should be reflective of the noun that immediatelly precedes it. Which is I in this case.
Re: Brighter Grammar by Agitator1: 10:11am On Feb 08, 2010
princeohms:

@ illusion2,
Yes there is a typo error. It should have been:
1. Tunde and I are going to school
2. Tunde and I am going to school

option 1 is correct
Re: Brighter Grammar by gee2(m): 10:51am On Feb 08, 2010
yeah i get that, thanks 4got that da name's got an S.
the other Q.? the correct options are 2, 2, 1.
Re: Brighter Grammar by violent(m): 4:13pm On Feb 08, 2010
princeohms:

The correct option is no 2. Tunde and I am going to the cinema. Reason: a verb used in a sentence should be reflective of the noun that immediatelly precedes it. Which is I in this case.

Well the immediate answer to this seem pretty confusing, especially with the use of "and" and considering the normal daily speech conventions.

Tunde and I are going to the school.
We are going to the school

but if you are using another conjunction such as "as well as" it might sound correct.

e.g The horses, the dogs as well as the kitten is part of my of luggage.

Truth is sometimes, GMAT standard of English varies differently from the normal Queen's english
Re: Brighter Grammar by violent(m): 4:14pm On Feb 08, 2010
My question:

I found him lying on his bed.

I found him lying in his bed
Re: Brighter Grammar by gmattutor: 4:16pm On Feb 08, 2010
point of note: GMAT does not use queen's english but american and that's why a lot of folks have issues.
Re: Brighter Grammar by gee2(m): 11:41pm On Feb 08, 2010
i found him lying in bed
Re: Brighter Grammar by MyJoe: 3:32pm On Feb 09, 2010
Jairzinho:


Which is the right option:

1.St James Park

2.St James' Park

3.St Jame's Park

Grammatically speaking, those who say option 2 are absolutely right. But the niceties of grammar are not sacrosanct in certain circumstances, such as naming. In deed, that apostrophe is often dispensed with in naming, thus a park is more likely to be named St James Park rather than St James' Park, just like Ramat Park in Benin City.
Re: Brighter Grammar by dominique(f): 4:22pm On Feb 09, 2010
Jairzinho:

Lets develop our english grammar/vocab here,I recently recalled an english textbook we used back in the days. wink

I'll drop a phrase or sentence. . . someone should give us the correct option (with reason of course) smiley


Which is the right option:

1.St James Park

2.St James' Park

3.St Jame's Park

technically all three are correct depending on the context they are used.

1.St James Park
suggests that the park was named after St. James, no need for inclusion for an apostrophe

2.St James' Park
the apostrophe after the s suggest that the park belongs to St. James

3.St Jame's Park
normally this should be wrong, but assuming the park belongs to a certain St Jame. its 100% correct.
Re: Brighter Grammar by dominique(f): 4:26pm On Feb 09, 2010
violent:

My question:

I found him lying on his bed.

I found him lying in his bed

use of prepositions can be very tricky. option 2 is correct IMO.
Re: Brighter Grammar by MyJoe: 4:35pm On Feb 09, 2010
dominique:

technically all three are correct depending on the context they are used.

1.St James Park
suggests that the park was named after St. James, no need for inclusion for an apostrophe

2.St James' Park
the apostrophe after the s suggest that the park belongs to St. James

3.St Jame's Park
normally this should be wrong, but assuming the park belongs to a certain St Jame. its 100% correct.

This is correct.


violent:

My question:

I found him lying on his bed.

I found him lying in his bed

dominique:

use of prepositions can be very tricky. option 2 is correct IMO.

Yeah, I found him lying on his bed would obviously be the correct one. But the other can also be correct in certain circumstances. For example, if I want to convey the impression that I am actually inside the bed (presupposes a covered bed). In bed may also be preferred if there are actions taking place therein.
Re: Brighter Grammar by dominique(f): 8:58pm On Feb 09, 2010
OMG i meant option 1 "lying on his bed". i diddnt read it properly before posting embarassed
Re: Brighter Grammar by illusion2: 7:53am On Feb 10, 2010
dominique:

technically all three are correct depending on the context they are used.

1.St James Park
suggests that the park was named after St. James, no need for inclusion for an apostrophe

2.St James' Park
the apostrophe after the s suggest that the park belongs to St. James

3.St Jame's Park
normally this should be wrong, but assuming the park belongs to a certain St Jame. its 100% correct.
Well said !

violent:

My question:

I found him lying on his bed.

I found him lying in his bed
You lie ON your bed (So option 1 is correct) ,just like the popular saying "As you lay your bed so you will lit ON it".

However if the statement had been "I found him In bed' that would be correct as against "I found him ON bed"

So you can be IN bed ,where the bed is taking more than just an object,but lying ON bed when the object characteristics of the bed come into fore.
Re: Brighter Grammar by FunmyKemmy(f): 9:24am On Feb 10, 2010
Brighter Grammar indeed!  I found it very much interesting.  Keep the ball rolling guys.

Check this out:

Don't be discouraged.  Accept the failure and ____________   the new challenge.

(1) take off   (2)  take on   (3)   take after     (4)    take in
Re: Brighter Grammar by Jairzinho(m): 9:55am On Feb 10, 2010
FunmyKemmy:

Brighter Grammar indeed! I found it very much interesting. Keep the ball rolling guys.

Check this out:

Don't be discouraged. Accept the failure and ____________ the new challenge.

(1) take off (2) take on (3) take after (4) take in
Take on. . . . 2 easy ! wink
Re: Brighter Grammar by FunmyKemmy(f): 10:01am On Feb 10, 2010
Ok,

By February, we ---------- a record of one hundred story books.

(a) have completed (b) complete
(c) shall have completed (d) are competing
Re: Brighter Grammar by Kx: 10:13am On Feb 10, 2010
Most educating thread of the year!.

I choose option (c) shall have completed
reason,By february gives an indication that we are looking at the future.
shall have me think is futuristic too and fits in.
someone else might give a better explanation.
Re: Brighter Grammar by FunmyKemmy(f): 10:27am On Feb 10, 2010
You are correct Kx.

Correct these sentences by rephrasing or changing the structures if necessary:

(a)  We went there on bus and departured in the morning of that day.

(b)  I witnessed a fight which involved with Paul and Mark.

(c)  Paul asked the wallet back from Mark but Mark refuse.

Good luck!
Re: Brighter Grammar by KennyG6(m): 10:40am On Feb 10, 2010
FunmyKemmy:

(a) We went there on bus and departured in the morning of that day.

(b) I witnessed a fight which involved with Paul and Mark.

(c) Paul asked the wallet back from Mark but Mark refuse.

(a) We went there on by bus and departured in on the morning of that day.

(b) I witnessed a fight which involved with Paul and Mark.

(c) Paul asked for the wallet back from Mark but Mark refused.

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