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Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by joeyfire(m): 9:36pm On Aug 13, 2017
omohayek:

No doubt you were talking about your own low-IQ self here, as you seem to have done such a superb job of describing your own intellectual limitations. You are indeed a being of extremely low intelligence, and very probably a bottom crawler scurrying about in the darkness.

Go ahead and show us where the FG "promised a 30% discount to the concessionaire which it reneged on", I dare you, point us to a single official document or reputable newspaper report asserting as such. Because if you think the following supports such a claim, you need to go back and finish primary school, as your reading comprehension ain't worth sh**!

If you had a working brain, rather than being a walking illustration of the Dunning-Kruger effect, you'd have realized she was saying that the FG gave such discounts to shipping vessels, not that the FG promised her company the same. To think a slowpoke who can't understand a simple sentence has the temerity to accuse anyone else of being unintelligent! Will you presume to lecture us on Joyce's Ulysses as an encore to this splendid performance?

Quit this desperate crying for relevance. Have a little dignity this thing.

The FG was giving a 30% discount to shipping companies and stopped it AFTER the concession came into operation and agreements had been signed. So you and your chinco phone are more knowledgeable than the MD?

Joker grin grin

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Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by 20CRATES(m): 2:10am On Aug 14, 2017
Obi1kenobi:


Except Ondo doesn't. It's a stat you dragged out of your arse. Plenty of your brethren have made intelligent submissions on this thread, but you're just a child.
You'll take over offshore rigs? grin With foolish bragging like that, you must think you're watching a movie, abi?

Nigeria has the 6th largest reserves globally of bitumen, also known as oil sands or tar sands. It is used in road construction, but can also be processed into oil. International researcher Christina Milos draws lessons from the Canadian experience, comparing with field findings from Ogun State and adding analysis of Nigerian government policies in order to assess the true cost of extracting bitumen from the ground.



Travelling through the sleepy and rustic communities of Irele, Agbabu and Illubirin, all in Ondo State, South West, Nigeria, the visitor cannot help but notice the many signboards with their bold declaration: “The Home of Bitumen” . This desire for a close association with bitumen tells the story of the aspirations of the people of Nigeria’s bitumen belt.
https://www.observenigeria.com/cultures/not-glitters-nigerias-bitumen-story/

Nigeria's Oil Sand belt.



Tar sand is found in large amounts worldwide but in exceptionally large quantities in Canada and Venezuela. Nigeria is also reported to have the second largest deposit of tar sand in the world containing about 41 billion barrels of oil found in cretaceous ferruginous sediments extending over about 120 km from Ogun state, across Ondo state to the margins of Edo state
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/222747137_Textural_Characteristic_of_the_Nigerian_Tar_Sands

This makes Nigeria a MAJOR GLOBAL PLAYER in the world's tar sands industry.
Far more stake than it enjoys in conventional oil.

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The problem is that Some of you don't know just how immense the blessings of the Southwest are.

MIND YOU, Tar sands is one of the major reason why canada is a global oil producing power and also the reason why Venezuela has the worlds highest oil reserves.


As for me, the tar sands in the SW tar belt must be left untouched till atleast we get our own sovereign state where things can be done appropriately! with minimal environmental pollution.

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Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by 20CRATES(m): 2:20am On Aug 14, 2017
with an estimated reserve (as at now) of about 48 billion barrels of converted oil from the tar sands of the western belt, the West can produce oil continuously for 128 years if it were to be producing about 1 million barrels per day.

What some of you don't know is that the future of Nigeria's oil industry is actually West of the Niger river in the coming years as humans continually delve deeper into non traditional sources of oil. Future Alberta of Nigeria is Ondo state.

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Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by AlwaysUltraPad: 9:44pm On Aug 21, 2017
Ereolamide:
Victim and persecution complex pigbos, we need your attention on this thread to explain to us how Yorubas are responsible for the marginalization of eastern ports.

If not for this thread I would have believed that no single ship berths in any other port aside Lagos ports.
pigbos grin grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by AlwaysUltraPad: 9:56pm On Aug 21, 2017
Amberon11:
Stop confusing the SS for the eastern region. They are two very different things.
grin grin grin see where dem wan follow now. Shey una say na because no other port for south de work apart from Lagos, na why business for SE de suffer? NPA nor know anything SS, na eastern flank dem know

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Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by jstbeinhonest(m): 1:49am On Oct 29, 2017
Good Thread.

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Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by proffc: 9:30am On Nov 30, 2017
Playing victim when they don't have their way. Very similar to how Women & Children behave


dlondonbadboy:
Igbos are not marginaliZed....Igbos are the ones marginalizing others..
The ports in Biafraland are all functional and every thing is working 100%, yet igbos would be crying everything..

Even during recruitment$, all the good jobs are giving to igbos and yet, this ipob boys would not allow us hear word..

Igbos are always complaining...that was how they were complaining about 2nd niger bridge since the time of obj. That was how they were complaining about ogoni land population...always complaining..nawa for biafrans o

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Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by proffc: 9:38am On Nov 30, 2017
OMOLUABI!



aribisala0:
Yorubas will not pull out because Eboes think we should . We will do so at a time of our choosing in a manner of our choosing. We will do so for reasons entirely different fro those of the Eboes which iss mainly spite and hate. Nothing woud givethe Eboes more joy than to have a prosperous Biafra while others around them are suffering so they can laugh and gloat .That is their nature. We on the other hand do not want hungry or desperate neighbours and we genuinely wish for thriving prosperous countries from the component parts of Nigeria that are PEACEFUL and militarily viable.Whilst the Eboe approach is a nihilistic recipe for decades of Chaos and conflict.
The Eboes are like "ccome make we go shitt" The Yorubas are like go and shitt alone aabeg and this makes EBoes bitter. Funnyy peeps ! Must we shitt together?
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by superstar1(m): 4:37pm On Dec 15, 2017
They are yet to find a co-ordinated response to this informative thread.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by SuperS1Panther: 2:16pm On Jan 06, 2018
Where are the Lord of Marginalization cry.


Yorubas are holding us down,

Yorubas conspiracy is making Eastern Ports non-functional.

Yorubas this yorubas that. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by verydark: 2:54pm On Jan 06, 2018
i dont understand easterners.their is no demand in the east.somebody should explain simple economics to this people.

better have a single port that have demand than building ports everywere.

not even america has so many ports.ports are not cheap to build oooo...

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Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by oyatz(m): 5:05pm On Feb 09, 2018
Let's look at it this way sir. Lets assume that the FG have sabotaged the progress of other ports except Lagos

1) Substantial portion of our imported consumer goods are imported via COTONOU ports and then smuggle via Seme -Idi Iroko axis into Nigeria.
Why didn't the smugglers import these products via Douala ports in Cameroon and smuggle them into Eastern Nigeria to reach the markets in that areas?

2) Is the FG also directing the policies of smuggling to favour the Southwest?










Obi1kenobi:


I know absolutely nothing about the maritime sector, but my dad once told me (in one of his anti-government rants grin) that the government pretty much sabotage the import capacity of other ports ensuring most goods are routed through Lagos ports. Then again, he was no authority on the issue either as he was an FIRS official. But think about it. Despite the massive problems in clearing goods at the Lagos ports, it still accounts for the bulk of import traffic. There must be underlying policy and structural problems that are responsible for this.

I would still wait for someone in the know to illuminate this issue.
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by SuperS1Panther: 10:32pm On May 17, 2018
This thread still remains one of the best on NL.

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Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Blue3k(m): 9:40pm On May 18, 2018
SuperS1Panther:
This thread still remains one of the best on NL.

Lol I just noticed everyone debating if the other ports sre dead yet again. The stats are here and depth charts are available. People will feel salty till Ibom seaport is finished.

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Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Nobody: 10:05pm On May 18, 2018
aribisala0:
Yorubas will not pull out because Eboes think we should . We will do so at a time of our choosing in a manner of our choosing. We will do so for reasons entirely different fro those of the Eboes which iss mainly spite and hate. Nothing woud givethe Eboes more joy than to have a prosperous Biafra while others around them are suffering so they can laugh and gloat .That is their nature. We on the other hand do not want hungry or desperate neighbours and we genuinely wish for thriving prosperous countries from the component parts of Nigeria that are PEACEFUL and militarily viable.Whilst the Eboe approach is a nihilistic recipe for decades of Chaos and conflict.
The Eboes are like "come make we go shitt" The Yorubas are like go and shitt alone abeg and this makes EBoes bitter. Funnyy peeps ! Must we shitt together?

aribisala0:
Backstabbing?
You woke up one day and killed Balewa,Bello, Okotie-Ebohand many others sparing Zik ,Okpara and all your leaders and then you have the effrontery to talk of backstabbing

You always think everyonne is an idiott
We don't know you from anywhere and owe you nothing.So the question of backstabbing can not arise. It only show your immaturity when you do not understand the nature of your relationships. The main problem with you folk in politics in impulsivity.You are very childish and act without thinking of consequences and refuse to take responsibility. Back stabbing indeed > From day one in Nigeria you have always tried to be clever and dominate everybody.

''QED''
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by nku5: 10:48am On Jul 27, 2018
So after noise, denials and posturing all these years it takes oga Ambode to affirm the simple truth.

grin grin grin grin

Case closed.

Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by totit: 11:11am On Jul 27, 2018
Archived.
shocked shocked shocked
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by nku5: 11:32am On Jul 27, 2018
Obi1kenobi:


Seems to me mostly a case of policy obstacles. I know importers from the East who always come down to Lagos to clear their goods at the ports. There is no way in hell they'd do this if they had a choice.

Simple and common sense
Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by nku5: 11:38am On Jul 27, 2018
All this nonsense must be addressed. Thanks Ambode.


joeyfire:
OP- Ask Sarumi and Bamanga Tukur for a start

"In the twilight of General Yakubu Gowon’s administration in the mid-1970s, the Nigerian Ports Authority (NPA) was battling with the problems of ports congestion as a result of massive cement importation.
The government decided to build two new ports to ease the transaction costs associated with shipping and to ensure adequate facilities for Nigeria’s import and export needs.
A feasibility study was carried out and the experts recommended the creation of two new ports; one in Lagos and another in Ibaka, in present day Akwa Ibom State. These projects were contained in the 3rd National Development Plan.
The one in Lagos is the Tin-Can Island Port commissioned by the then Chief of Staff, Supreme Headquarters, and deputy to then military Head of State, Genera Olusegun Obasanjo, now late Major-General Shehu Yar’Adua on 14th October, 1977.
Ibaka Port was never constructed, purportedly on the advice of the then Chief Executive Officer of the Nigerian Ports Authority (NPA) and current Chairman of the ruling People’s Democratic Party (PDP) – Alhaji Bamanga Tukur.
I heard Tukur’s argument was that instead of starting a new port from scratch, the same resources could be used to revive existing and nearby Calabar Port.
Government bought his argument and a huge amount I’m still trying to find out was used to revive the port. The new Calabar Port Complex was commissioned on 9th June, 1979.
I heard Alhaji Tukur has a wife from Calabar. Now I’m not sure if his wife influenced his decision or if his support for Calabar port made the community bless him with their daughter. But anyhow, it is clear that the decision is a wrong one because Calabar Port is still moribund.
Fast forward to 2006 when Alhaji Bamanga Tukur’sson, the iconic Chief Adebayo Babatunde Sarumi, was in charge of the Nigerian Ports Authority.
A princely sum of 56 million dollars (about N9 billion) was spent on dredging the Calabar Port channel.

The dredging contract was awarded to two dredging firms: Messrs Jan de Nul and Van Oord. The federal government divided the entire length of the channel in Calabar Port between the two firms.
While Van Oord was paid $26 million to dredge kilometre 0 to 46, Jan de Nul got $30 million to dredge kilometre 46 to 84. According to the scope of the contract, the two firms were to scoop out 25 million cubic metres of sand to achieve an overall draft of 8 metres to allow big vessels call at the port.
Not one big ship has called at the port ever since because while the companies collected their monies and walked away, the channel remains as shallow as ever.
Of course the appreciative Calabar community honoured Chief Sarumi with a chieftaincy title."

http://shipsandports.com.ng/before-we-dredge-calabar-port-again/

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Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by Blue3k(m): 12:51pm On Jul 27, 2018
Read his claim he didnt to indicate they are dead. All he essentially said is make the eastern ports more attractive and fix oil pipelines. You guys want to believe your ports are dead when the simple fact is you can currently use all the easern ports.

Seriously how do dead ports handle nearly 40 percent of dry cargo? Funny enough more ships are calling at eastern ports now than before. You guys already acccept liquid bulk like oil is moved in eastern ports. Sentiments dont beat stats that's a fact.

totit:
Archived.
shocked shocked shocked
nku5:
So after noise, denials and posturing all these years it takes oga Ambode to affirm the simple truth.

grin grin grin grin

Case closed.


If trend continues 2018 will be best year for eastern ports.

Over 5000 vessels called at the Nigeria ports annually (both wet and dry cargo vessels). Out of about 3,033 dry cargo vessels that visited Nigerian ports in 2016, Eastern ports accounted for only 631 which are about 20%. In 2017, out of 3106 dry cargo vessels that berthed in Nigerian Ports, Eastern Ports had only 676 about 21%. Furthermore, in Q1 2018 about 749 dry cargo vessels called at the nation’s ports, 292 representing 39% of the total berthed at the Eastern ports.” NIMASA boss added

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Re: Are Eastern Ports Dysfunctional? by nku5: 4:39pm On Jul 27, 2018
Blue3k:
Read his claim he didnt to indicate they are dead. All he essentially said is make the eastern ports more attractive and fix oil pipelines. You guys want to believe your ports are dead when the simple fact is you csn currently use all the easern ports.

Seriously how do dead ports hand nearly 40 percent of dry cargo? Funny enough more ships are calling at eastern ports now than before. You guys already except liquid bulk like oil is moved in eastern ports. Sentiments dont beat stats that's a fact.




If trend continues 2018 will be best year for eastern ports.




Ok tongue

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