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Re: EVOLUTION SPOILER!: Soft Tissue In Dinosaur Fossil, University Settles Scientist by Ranchhoddas: 10:46pm On Aug 25, 2017
butterflylion:


How can a dumb person possibly see brilliance in another? Mental and verbal roaming ain't brilliance duh!
What does even mean?
O great surgeon!
Re: EVOLUTION SPOILER!: Soft Tissue In Dinosaur Fossil, University Settles Scientist by butterflylion: 11:00pm On Aug 25, 2017
Ranchhoddas:
What does even mean?
O great surgeon!

Weed oh weed e no go better for you. You dey dream Abi you dey on a keyboard transmitted high?
Re: EVOLUTION SPOILER!: Soft Tissue In Dinosaur Fossil, University Settles Scientist by Nobody: 12:37am On Aug 26, 2017
blueAgent:



Are you trying to shift your responsibility?

I'm not the one who said they could "disprove" evolution am I, no burden of proof for me here
Re: EVOLUTION SPOILER!: Soft Tissue In Dinosaur Fossil, University Settles Scientist by blueAgent(m): 2:31pm On Aug 28, 2017
LightandDarkness:


I'm not the one who said they could "disprove" evolution am I, no burden of proof for me here



Atheists have the burdern of prove on them,they neee to show us how the World could have come into existence by any other means other than by Divine creation.
which includes proving Evolution.

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Re: EVOLUTION SPOILER!: Soft Tissue In Dinosaur Fossil, University Settles Scientist by Nobody: 4:23pm On Aug 28, 2017
blueAgent:




Atheists have the burdern of prove on them,they neee to show us how the World could have come into existence by any other means other than by Divine creation.
which includes proving Evolution.

You said you wanted to disprove it, disprove it, why is it my job in this discussion to prove it to you. Meanwhile there is no solid evidence for creationism, no process to scrutinize nothing just "we were created from dust" and "it's true because the Bible said so". If you applied the same burden of proof you desire for evolution to creationism you would already see the creationism as the nonsense it is
Re: EVOLUTION SPOILER!: Soft Tissue In Dinosaur Fossil, University Settles Scientist by felixomor: 5:33pm On Aug 28, 2017
LightandDarkness:


You said you wanted to disprove it, disprove it, why is it my job in this discussion to prove it to you. Meanwhile there is no solid evidence for creationism, no process to scrutinize nothing just "we were created from dust" and "it's true because the Bible said so". If you applied the same burden of proof you desire for evolution to creationism you would already see the creationism as the nonsense it is
@ bolded
Exactly the foolish spot where atheists land
and we ask them,

Does that translate to The fact that the human brain which is millions of times more complex than the best computers was not designed or occurred by accident?
Or the genetic code which you are ignorant of occurred by accident out of no where without an author for its design.

And they go dumb.

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Re: EVOLUTION SPOILER!: Soft Tissue In Dinosaur Fossil, University Settles Scientist by blueAgent(m): 8:01am On Aug 29, 2017
LightandDarkness:


You said you wanted to disprove it, disprove it, why is it my job in this discussion to prove it to you. Meanwhile there is no solid evidence for creationism, no process to scrutinize nothing just "we were created from dust" and "it's true because the Bible said so". If you applied the same burden of proof you desire for evolution to creationism you would already see the creationism as the nonsense it is


There are lots of proofs for creation.

You can google for Scientific proofs of Creation.

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Re: EVOLUTION SPOILER!: Soft Tissue In Dinosaur Fossil, University Settles Scientist by Nobody: 7:30pm On Mar 12, 2018
felixomor:
University settles lawsuit with scientist fired after he found soft tissue in dinosaur bones




CSUN scientist Mark Armitage found soft tissue in a dinosaur bone, a discovery that throws significant doubt on evolution. Then, two weeks after publishing his findings, he was fired.

Now California State University at Northridge has paid Armitage a six-figure sum to settle his wrongful termination suit based on religious discrimination. While the university admits no wrongdoing, Armitage’s attorney said they feared losing a protracted lawsuit because of a “smoking gun” email that backed the plaintiff’s case.

The case of Armitage is the latest to show the mounting hostility Christians face in academics and other public arenas.



“Soft tissue in dinosaur bones destroys ‘deep time.’ Dinosaur bones cannot be old if they’re full of soft tissue,” Armitage said in a YouTube video. “Deep time is the linchpin of evolution. If you don’t have deep time, you don’t have evolution. The whole discussion of evolution ends if you show that the earth is young. You can just erase evolution off the whiteboard because of soft tissue in dinosaur bones.”

Armitage was hired as a microscopist to manage CSUN’s electron and confocal microscope suite in 2010. He had published some 30 articles in scientific journals about his specialty.

A graduate of Liberty University, Armitage adheres to the “young earth” view, against the majority of scientists who say our planet is 5 billion years old. He engaged students in his lab with Socratic dialogue over the issue of the earth’s age based on his and others’ research, he said.




In May 2012, Armitage went on a dinosaur dig at the famous fossil site of Hell Creek in Montana, where he unearthed the largest triceratops horn ever found there. Back at CSUN, he put the fossil under his microscope and made the startling discovery: unfossilized, undecayed tissue was present.

If the dinosaur were 65 million years old, the soft tissue could not have possibly remained, he says. His findings seconded groundbreaking discoveries by noted molecular paleontologist Mary Schweitzer, who triggered an earthquake in the world of paleontology when she published about soft tissue in dinosaur bones in 2005. (Schweitzer subsequently postulated that iron is responsible for preserving the soft tissue.)

Armitage’s February 2013 study was published in the peer-reviewed Acta Histochemica, a journal of cell and tissue research. Two week later, he found himself without a job.



A biology professor had come into his office and said, “We are not going to tolerate your religion in this department.”

Armitage fought back. Professors and students alike had praised his work managing the microscope lab. His suit alleged he was excluded from a secret meetings of the microscopy committee. In a “smoking gun” email, university officials suggested they could ease Armitage out of his part-time position by making it full-time, Reinach said.

A colleague described the process as a “witch hunt,” according to Inside Higher Ed.

For two years, CSUN fought Armitage’s lawsuit. The university alleged his firing was simply a restructuring of their biology department and not a case of religious discrimination. But CSUN lost its bid to have the judge summarily throw the case out of court as groundless in July of last year.

A biology professor had come into his office and said, “We are not going to tolerate your religion in this department.

Armitage fought back. Professors and students alike had praised his work managing the microscope lab. His suit alleged he was excluded from a secret meetings of the microscopy committee. In a “smoking gun” email, university officials suggested they could ease Armitage out of his part-time position by making it full-time, Reinach said.

A colleague described the process as a “witch hunt,” according to Inside Higher Ed.

For two years, CSUN fought Armitage’s lawsuit. The university alleged his firing was simply a restructuring of their biology department and not a case of religious discrimination. But CSUN lost its bid to have the judge summarily throw the case out of court as groundless in July of last year.

So CSUN settled with Armitage for $399,500 in 2016, according to Inside Higher Ed.

Alan Reinach, Armitage’s attorney, hailed the settlement as precedent-setting.

“We are not aware of any other cases where a creationist received a favorable outcome,” said Reinach, executive director of the Church State Council, a nonprofit California public interest legal organization. “This was truly a historic case.”



CSUN has downplayed its decision to settle, saying in a statement that the university is committed to religious freedom and freedom of speech.

“The Superior Court did not rule on the merits of Mr. Armitage’s complaint, and this voluntary settlement is not an indication of wrong-doing,” according to a CSUN statement published in Retraction Watch. “The decision to settle was based on a desire to avoid the costs involved in a protracted legal battle, including manpower, time and state dollars.”

But Reinach countered: “They certainly would not have paid that kind of money if they did not recognize that we had them dead to rights. The state doesn’t put large, six-figure settlement money out unless they are really concerned they are going to lose.”

Prior to looking for soft tissue in dinosaur bones, Armitage studied diatoms, unicellular organisms that make up phytoplankton, which reveal a dizzying complexity and organization at the microscopic level.

According to Armitage, the beauty and complexity of diatoms lends credence to the idea they are a product of a Creator and not of spontaneous evolution.

“Evolution is structure supported by two pillars: one is chance, and the other is time. Chance is required because we obviously can’t say that a thinking force created life on earth. That is anathema for the materialists. If you kick out one of those two pillars the whole structure collapses,” Armitage noted. “If you kick out chance by showing incredible design, the structure of evolution starts to totter and it may crash. Because you cannot have design in a world that doesn’t have a Designer.

“The other pillar is time because you cannot get a man from a frog unless the princess kissed the frog. That’s a fairy tale. So in science you have to have deep time to get evolution.”

Subsequent to the controversy, Armitage has been on additional digs and found more soft tissue but is finding it difficult to get published. “I’m clearly being blackballed,” he said in The College Fix.

“Soft tissue in dinosaur bones destroys deep time.” Armitage said. “Dinosaur bones cannot be old if they’re full of soft tissue.”


SOURCES:

http://blog.godreports.com/2017/08/university-settles-lawsuit-with-scientist-fired-after-he-found-soft-tissue-in-dinosaur-bones/

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/us-university-settles-lawsuit-creationist


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No religion explains the existence of man.



Meanwhile this story is baseless trash.
Re: EVOLUTION SPOILER!: Soft Tissue In Dinosaur Fossil, University Settles Scientist by felixomor: 7:48pm On Mar 12, 2018
PrecisionFx:



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No religion explains the existence of man.



Meanwhile this story is baseless tras[/s]

Exactly, thats why many dont see Christianity as a religion.

Next!
Re: EVOLUTION SPOILER!: Soft Tissue In Dinosaur Fossil, University Settles Scientist by Nobody: 8:05pm On Mar 12, 2018
felixomor:


Exactly, thats why many dont see Christianity as a religion.

Next!


Sorry to burst ur Pentecostal bubble. Christianity is a religion.
Re: EVOLUTION SPOILER!: Soft Tissue In Dinosaur Fossil, University Settles Scientist by felixomor: 2:36am On Mar 13, 2018
PrecisionFx:



Sorry to burst ur Pentecostal bubble. Christianity is a religion.
Thats Your opinion.
Besides no fool has been able to burst the Pentecostal "bubble".....
It will still be around, even after u are dead. Deal with it
Re: EVOLUTION SPOILER!: Soft Tissue In Dinosaur Fossil, University Settles Scientist by Nobody: 6:21am On Mar 13, 2018
felixomor:

Thats Your opinion.
Besides no fool has been able to burst the Pentecostal "bubble".....
It will still be around, even after u are dead. Deal with it


Islam, Buddhism, ATR, Agnosticism, Atheism etc will equally be around wen ur long dead.

CHRISTIANITY IS A RELIGION.
Re: EVOLUTION SPOILER!: Soft Tissue In Dinosaur Fossil, University Settles Scientist by felixomor: 9:15am On Mar 13, 2018
PrecisionFx:



Islam, Buddhism, ATR, Agnosticism, Atheism etc will equally be around wen ur long dead.

CHRISTIANITY IS A RELIGION.
I never set such foolish agenda of wishing religion away. Your likes do

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Re: EVOLUTION SPOILER!: Soft Tissue In Dinosaur Fossil, University Settles Scientist by Nobody: 9:19am On Mar 13, 2018
felixomor:

I never set such foolish agenda of wishing religion away. Your likes do

Irrelevant post.

CHRISTIANITY IS A RELIGION.

Stop attempting to derail.

Stay on the issue or stop replying.
Re: EVOLUTION SPOILER!: Soft Tissue In Dinosaur Fossil, University Settles Scientist by felixomor: 9:23am On Mar 13, 2018
PrecisionFx:


Irrelevant post.

CHRISTIANITY IS A RELIGION.

Stop attempting to derail.

Stay on the issue or stop replying.

Your opinion. Changes nothing
Re: EVOLUTION SPOILER!: Soft Tissue In Dinosaur Fossil, University Settles Scientist by Nobody: 12:45pm On Mar 13, 2018
felixomor:


Your opinion. Changes nothing


Ur opinion too. Changes absolutely Nothing.
Re: EVOLUTION SPOILER!: Soft Tissue In Dinosaur Fossil, University Settles Scientist by flamingREED(m): 4:48pm On Mar 13, 2018
Haha.
God must have touched that dinosaur.

He wraps a thousand years into one day,
and stretches a day into a thousand years.

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