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If they didn't deliver as promised file a police complaint against them as this is fraud.

If they're offended by the way you spoke and decided not to continue with the project then they have to deliver the project at its current state - this would be prove that they even did any work, it the work is at least 50% done then you can find another team to complete it. But make sure and insist you get the source code and files and not just an app file - that's very important as without the source files they job cannot be continued by another dev team.

Now if they fail to deliver any app or source codes then it means they never even started they work and you should insist on a full refund. Get the police involved and if possible efcc but be prepared to part with some part of the money if law enforcement helps you recover the money.

When all these started, I advised all of you that it was premature for anyone to decide whether Mr. bah was innocent or not without reviewing all the pieces of evidence used in deciding this case.

Mr. chatinent gave the impression that he had access and had reviewed the court transcripts (which I am beginning to doubt) and same to the conclusion that Mr. bah was innocent which was why he opened this thread - to canvass and generate enough social noise to compel the federal government to look into the case.

These were his own words at the beginning of the thread -

"So we reached out and met with the defendant ( @Powerhouse5050) who is currently in prison for a crime, as the evidence says, he didn't commit."

"We invite well-meaning Nigerians to please support this case. The evidence speaks volumes. Without your help, he would be spending the rest of his life in prison for a case of mistaken identity. Thank you."

"This case is since 2017! Do you know what it feels to be behind bars since then...and most painful when you are innocent?"

"If Nigerians push on the fact that the case is visited, the FG will be forced to have a say."

Even after he was busted early on by 1stGenAmerican for lying about the legal fees he paid, it was quite shocking to still have lots of guys pitch their tent with him.

One even went as far as adding "#justiceforbah" to her profile without even seeing a single of piece of the evidence used in nailing him.

You guys were ready to start a social campaign for a convicted stranger even without asking about his family and close friends.

I mean if anyone should be at the forefront of such a campaign, it should have been them.

But I guess the Tokyo evidence that came up lately answers why none of them embarked on any kind of campaign to prove his claimed innocence.

The fact is it was extremely clear very early on that Mr. bah was lying about a lot (even stuff he didn't have to lie about), withheld or should I say "released" only screenshots he felt were sufficient to fool people enough to embark on this ridiculous campaign and avoided directly answering any questions that he didn't like.

My only annoyance with chatinent is that he gave us all the impression that he had gone through the court transcripts used in deciding the case and found evidence to believe Mr. bah was innocent and was mistaken for someone else.

Mr. bah is a hardened criminal and the judge saw that during the trials and ensured she used her power to ensure he would never be a free man.

Only a crazy psychopath would commit such a crime, get multiple life sentences and instead of making peace with his God decided to make a fool out of an entire nation to embark on a social crusade for him.

Ynix:
What is the channel through which the income comes in, Bros use your head na. There is big difference from making money through YouTub and being paid by YouTube

This is the link you posted

https://www.slice.ca/richest-youtubers-by-net-worth/

Go through it please.

It is even stated that number 1 there owns a cosmetic brand and other businesses and that surely adds up to his networth.

What I said is last year 2020 the highest anyone earned through YouTube is 29.5m (which is a fact you can verify) which was in response to a guy who said some youtubers make 200m from youtube every year.

So I really don't know how networth got into the conversation to warrant a back forth

B

Ekez:
ok
How much buhari don earn all his life legally
Mumu man

And just a piece of advice life is way bigger than childish nnamdi kanu vs buhari banters.

Ekez:
ok
How much buhari don earn all his life legally
Mumu man

How does this hold any relevance to what you quoted?

Mrsoft3:
Wait o, let's be honest here. So this man knocked someone with his car since last month and it was yesterday they saw the dead body? Question where did they see the dead body? Which autopsy was carried out to show he was knocked down? If this said driver knocked down someone and ran away to the point of even fixing the car then he is a serial killer.

But wait who we dey deceive?

It takes quite a while to identify a john doe especially if doesn't have any identifying documents on me. Could have in a morgue and only identified now.

Ynix:
You information is not updated, check out this

https://www.slice.ca/richest-youtubers-by-net-worth/

networth doesn't mean the same thing as earnings per year.

The highest paid YouTuber earned 29.5m from youtube last year that is a fact.

Someone's networth can even include inheritance and family properties.

Networth is simply someone's entire assets so that even factors revenue outside youtube.

Just how Messi is the highest paid footballer, but not that one with the highest networth there's a crown prince on Leicester books

Ynix:
Was Gani earning up to $200 Million which some YouTubers earn annually. The only people who earn so much money in Nigeria are political thieves and I think you mentioned one of them here

The highest paid YouTube earns 29 million.

Let's desist from the habit of fabricating facts and figures just to win an argument

donjahsy:
Witnessing a Court case and defending a client is a way two different things dumbass!

You can prepare your arguments and present it before the trail judge at the next court hearing as she is the one in charge and who made the decision not me.

horsepower102:
Quote the section of Nigerian law that explicitly states what you just said.

Maybe tomorrow you can visit any court in your location and offer your services to defend those in need of it, since any random person can do that right?

Allsouls:
Did Calling to Nigeria bar also stops foreign lawyer from witnessing hearing of a case court?.

Reread what I wrote but slowing this time. I never made mention of witnessing at any point.

Barring anyone from witnessing any court proceedings is at the sole dispersion of the trail judge and/or security operatives which I am either and as such cannot speak on their behalf

Can a Nigerian lawyer travel to London to defend someone before a London Court?

There is something called jurisdiction and a foreign lawyer has zero jurisdiction in a Nigerian Court unless he was called to the Nigerian bar.

That is the same way an ordinary citizen cannot be allowed to defend in you Court.

Seriously that looked more like fireworks that was painted.

nigerian account?

shaybebaby:
Those who assisted had enough SCEPTISM of the science to be broad minded enough to even consider the possibility that current techniques are not absolute sciences. That false positives can and do occur.

They did not think " he has already been convicted so no need to re-examine the evidence."

It is that mindset that leads to continuous improvement and refinement of all process.

I have asked countless times and even volunteered myself to review the transcripts for errors.

chatinent:
Baba, many people don't really understand that the most difficult thing in this life is being in a pit of pain but hearing people passing above but no one to help...even while you are crying out.

Especially when you believe you are not the one supposed to be in that hole.

Some think you deserve it with their facts. No problem.

Some think you don't after checking the facts. No problem.

Some think it's just painful. No problem.

But you see those ones that are just following any path of the first sets of people...wearing a all shiny white cowardice green gown and hypocrite brown cap... to make them feel validated? Cockroaches in their cupboards are usually dragons...but they all play heaven candidates in public. They deserve to be ignored forever not even insulted!

Because they have nothing to offer.

A lil discussion with them will inform you of an empty cranium. Watch them start talking about how many lives they've got and all those gibberish.

I go come go check Elon Musk’s bloodline life lines again to be sure...it's still one...and worse is their names aren't on it.

Lol



Now here is a thing....

The craze is that a neutral person has stopped above talking to the person down the pit and asking questions...and checking facts on how you got there. The neutral person is saying narrate your own story. The neutral person is saying let me see the main facts. The neutral person is comparing and contrasting...maybe to prove beyond all reasonable doubts that for a truth, yes, sb supposed to be in the pit...but it actually isn't you...based on those facts.

...in another ndi follow follow news, some people who don't even have any piece of information on how the man in the pit got there is trying to push the neutral person down or even exterminate the person...for daring to have a contact with the man in the pit.


Is common sense not really not common?

Here is the fact

My opinion on this case doesn't matter, yours do not and neither does anyone's on this thread matter.

Whether you or I believe he is innocent or not doesn't count as anything.

What matters is what the judge and jury that would hear the appeal believe after reviewing all the evidence and counter evidence.

That's all that truly matters.

shaybebaby:
No personal conviction on my part, I have simply been following and commenting because it IS an interesting thread.

And for the subtle bullying when there are opposing opinions, potential bias is one of the things screened for during jury selection.
Most people want to see justice carried out when a crime is committed. When children are involved, even more so. No one wants a predator walking around free.

But, part of justice is making sure that the right person is incarcerated. And even when we are sure, there is nothing wrong with double checking. The field of science is ever evolving

Can DNA evidence ever be wrong? Yes.
Is it foolproof? Hell to the No!!!

Food for thought in the below article. Charged for the same crime.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/a-reasonable-doubt/480747/

https://www.science.org/content/article/forensics-gone-wrong-when-dna-snares-innocent-rev2

Just finished reading the first article the boys mother shared the transcripts with those willing to help and while reviewing it, the errors where discovered and a dna retest was done.

I have said this countless, no one can determine if an error or mistake was made without properly going through and reviewing the transcripts.

chatinent:
I'm still here.

Whenever there is a new question from important persons I have an answer, I will answer.

Countless very important questions have been thrown your way but this your comment now confirms that you decide which ones to answer and which ones to ignore.

Someone asked earlier about the dna from the facial swap but till now you haven't said anything about it.

Including the reported cctv footage which showed Mr. Bah chasing the victim.

Mr. Bah driving the car the suspect was spotted leaving the crime scene with.

I just hope in court, when the persecutors ask similar questions, you would be allowed to only answer the ones you deem important.

@HolarQD you said it all.

I have always maintained an open mind towards this which is why I have always asked questions and demanded for more facts.

I can't just take a stand by hearing only from Mr. Bah even the courts don't work that way.

I believe everything Mr. Bah said and presented here has already been discussed in court...

And the persecutors also presented their own arguments and pieces of evidence which no one here has seen or heard.

The courts have seen pieces of evidence we haven't, they have taken the statements of persons we haven't heard from...

So it is extremely premature for those jumping on the court made mistake bandwagon.

Yes mistakes happen but also note...

Countless persons wrongly accussed and convicted for years have been exonerated by dna evidence once advancements in dna testings were made.

The true allele that was used to convict him has also been used by others to prove thier innocence exonerating them from crimes they have spent long years in jail for (I have earlier shared the link to this).

So like I have said before, I cannot partake on any campaign to prove the innocence of anyone until I have reviewed all the facts of the case (which in this case I haven't and doubt anyone here has either).

Why?

Because even when this goes to appeal, Mr. Bah won't just present his pieces of evidence and call it a day.

No...

They persecutors would also do the same.

And none of us have seen the evidence that was used to nail him in the first trail but Mr. Bah has and reasons best known to him, he has decided not to reveal them.

deewhytee:
Lol...look at this IGNORAMUS calling another person an Olodo.
I laugh in Swahili...

Someone who has all the qualifications you can only dream of in your lifetime.... BLOCK HEAD!

Did you have the privilege of sitting inside the four walls of a University?

When your mates were passing JAMB and getting admission to read the courses of their choice, where were you?

You were busy trekking on the hot sands of the desert, looking for illicit ways to get into Europe, and when you eventually had the chance, instead of living clean and nice, you engaged in all sorts of shady deals like internet fraud etc, and when the arm of the law caught up with you and your goons, you "cleverly escaped" and ran to Naija.

And when you came back, you couldn't get it into your thick skull to bag a degree...
Why??

Cos you don't have the mental capacity to even pass JAMB, how much sit in a class meant for intellectuals because your SENILE brain cannot process anything academic, except FRAUD.

Loool... you think you have a bad mouth, abi?
Just because I've been ignoring your insults all this while, cos I want to respect your age a little??

My friend, don't even go that route because I'll drag you through the mire so bad, you'll regret ever quoting me in the first place.

And if you doubt me, bring it on..!

There's no point dragging this back and forth.

If you go through his thread and this one, you can easily deduce why one is a free man and the other isn't.

deewhytee:
Question is...have you read the thread and his book?

Do that, and ask him questions about what he did for a living in Europe.

Then come back to reply me.
Thanks.

If you know me you would know I have read the thread thoroughly even before quoting you.

He got involved in the wrong path and group, point is he realised himself, felt remorseful and made a u turn before it was too late (as in the case of Mr bah).

deewhytee:
I have read his thread and his book.
And I am NOT talking out of context.

Have you read both?

If you've not, then do, and ask him salient questions concerning his crimes in the Netherlands (if he'll be HONEST ENOUGH to answer your questions sincerely.)

I know what I'm talking about Bro.

He's only trying to whitewash himself now to make him look like a saint.
That guy is a top notch hypocrite who has refused to remove the log from his own eyes before casting stones on another.

I wouldn't have even bothered dragging him here, but I was just tired of his incessant and useless contributions on this thread, which contributed nothing meaningful, but were just aimed at bashing the guy.

Why When he himself knows he's also a CRIMINAL as well.

I beleive the fact that someone wrote and published a book about his travails means he has nothing to hide.

Mr. Bah you are advocating for isn't even forth coming with answers to questions thrown his way.

chatinent:
Let me give you sth to think about...when the DNA was brought back to the court...and it was acknowledged it wasn't zealed; the zeal was broken. Sth that was sealed from the DNA expert.



Read again.

He could have easily asked for a retest. If a result is presented against you and you doubt it. You file a simple motion to have the test rerun don't you? You don't file a motion to exclude the evidence unless you know a retest would still produce the same results.

Mr. Bah is desperately looking for any technicality or loophole he can use and that's just it.

And the cctv footage reportedly showed him chasing the victim?

Multiple pieces of evidence puts Mr bah at the crime scene at the the time the crime was committed and also suggest he had contact with the victim.

Mr. Bah hasn't offered any reasonable explanation as to why

deewhytee:
I'll take you up on your first statement here...

A TRULY EMPTY person is one who is a CRIMINAL, knows he's a CRIMINAL, knows he evaded justice, but instead of repenting and burying his head in shame and repenting by asking GOD for forgiveness and mercy, comes to an online forum to cast stones at another, because he believes he's now "free" to roam.

That's what Oyinbo people call HYPOCRISY...!

So get off, OLD HYPOCRITE, and find something meaningful and more dignifying to do with your life, rather than coming here to vomit trash.

And always remember my last line...

HE WHO LIVES IN A GLASSHOUSE...
(I'll leave you to complete the rest.)

You know you are just ranting right now.

The guy has admitted everything even gave you a link to read his book where he wrote about all that happened.

So what exactly are you saying again?

daddytime:
Wrong quote I suppose.

I see. Deleted my comment

chatinent:
I have answered your questions over and over.
What else do you want me to say?

I just have missed them. Maybe you can point out were this have been answered https://www.nairaland.com/post/106724321

daddytime:
That should tell you the person's intelligence and comprehension level.

He/she wants to expose me...lol

.

deewhytee:
And did you read the part where they said the DNA results were inconclusive?

Look... I don't know this guy from Adam, but one thing I hate is being unjustly punished for something one knows nothing about.

I'm one that's keenly interested in the criminal justice system, and would never support any sort of criminality, but support just punishments meted out to deserving criminals.

And I believe rape is one of the most heinous offences one can indulge in, whether committed on a minor or mature person.

Now, I think the guy has kept quiet and refrained from giving out more facts that could prove his innocence cos of legal advice, hoping to tender them all in the appellate court.
(Not sure, I might be wrong though)

And to further crown it, what actually makes it look like a set up is
the unnecessarily long sentence meted out to him by the judge... I mean... that's just too much, considering the fact that even serial killers don't get that much. Kilode??

It's like using a hammer to kill an ant na.
Even if he were guilty of the crime, the right sentence should have been given.

Again, just to stop the false narratives.

The dna analysis was never inconclusive.

Two dna analysis were carried out, a vaginal swap and a facial swap.

To ascertain if they there inconclusive, you would need to see the original results wouldn't you? Not some cropped out 3 lines of someone's testimony.

The fact here is this.

The courts were presented with the original results and you haven't seen them.

Yet you belive the court made a mistake

404Dev:
The truth is I have dug deep into this case and followed all the trails.

I even know that in 2015 Mr. bah legally changed his name from Adedoja Olaniyi Wilfred to Adedejo Olaniyi Bah which was published in the jan 26th issue of the nation newspaper.

I have explored all the angles people dropped here on this thread and followed all the trails to pick up anything I could.

It's also important to state -

I am not trying to prove anything neither do I have anything to prove.

I have asked some questions relating to all Mr bah has said here several times and it was all ignored by those who opened this thread.

So that implored me to dig deeper in an attempt to uncover the facts myself.

And my advice to anyone who wishes or is taking this up with a bid to seek public help perhaps internationally, please make sure you get, review and understand all the facts about this before doing.

If I an ordinary guy living in lagos can uncover so much information with just my smartphone and Internet image what a cnn investigator would be able to do

deewhytee:
Oil dey your head my Brother.
You are a deep thinker, and this reminds me of one of JHC's novels that says "The Guilty Are Afraid"...

Why on earth would someone commit a crime, and still stay in the same apartment he was living in before?

Why e no japa? Especially since he had the means to?
America na big country na...he could have escaped to any of the other States or taken a direct flight back to Naija to cool off and gone back after the heat had died down.

Everybody knows this, except the naysayers, who, for reasons best known to them, have refused to see reason, but continue to doggedly condemn the guy, supporting the injustice meted out to him for something he knows absolutely nothing about.

I won't be surprised if some of them are part of the people that actually planned this setup against him in the first place, especially that vindictive and antagonistic woman that has been going up and down the thread vilifying him as if she's had some sort of beef for him before.

But I know say GOD pass them sha.
Just as HE would never allow the guilty to go unpunished, so also HE would will never allow the innocent be punished unjustly.

Let's all wait and see how this pans out in the end.

You cannot japa out of a country within mere hours of an incident.

The incident was reported immediately, and a Lookout was given for the car the suspect was spotted on the surveillance cameras driving away.

Within hours (according to Mr bahs own statement on this thread just 2 hours), he was spotted driving a car that matched the description officer's were on the look out for which was the only reason he was stopped.

My guess was he was called to the station for questioning (logic dictates he would be asked about the car first) and then investigations followed.

It is always nice to stop the spread of false narratives.

The truth is I have dug deep into this case and followed all the trails.

I even know that in 2015 Mr. bah legally changed his name from Adedoja Olaniyi Wilfred to Adedejo Olaniyi Bah which was published in the jan 26th issue of the nation newspaper.

I have explored all the angles people dropped here on this thread and followed all the trails to pick up anything I could.