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Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by ultron12345: 1:06pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
optm:thats just it, it's the sad truth, quality healthcare is expensive.......someone pays N2M for an operation in the U.S but a Nigerian wants to use N30K for the same operation at the same quality, it can't happen. The only solution could have been subsidy, but trust me, Nigeria does not have the money to subsidize quality healthcare. 1 Like |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by helpee(m): 1:11pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
1miccza:You are still repeating the same thing. I should save life first with what ? with my hand? is it not money we will use to buy ventilator, oxygen, drugs and co or you think everything is typhoid and malaria that you can always treat with 2k. You dont know about hospitals.....most general hospital in Nigeria are so bad that they commonly reject....1) cases with low chances of survival 2) cases that can tie up their bed for a long time. Wether you believe it or not, it is the reality. so if they assumed wether rightly or wrongly your case is either they can refer you. That doesnt mean there wont be a time they WONT TRUELY LACK SPACE. so they may not have space truely. Moreso, you talk about SAVING LIFE FIRST. That is assuming i can save all lives. What if in the process of saving the life, the patient dies after incurring thousands in cost and the patient refuses to pay WHICH IS THE TREND IN NIGERIA.I should ask the writer of the hippocratic oath to pay me back? 1 Like |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by ultron12345: 1:13pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
Flaghouse1:yes, we all feel for the baby, but when u run a hospital, and u treat 50 patients on credit as a kind hearted person, but u are only able to get back your money from 5 of them (and u had to threaten them with police and juju before they paid), and it's the end of the month, u are owing workers 4 months salary, suppliers are on ur neck for their payment, the bank is threatening to take ur house and car because u haven't been servicing d loan u took to start the hospital........what do u expect that doctor to do. He can't keep making losses. 2 Likes |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by helpee(m): 1:17pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
IamaNigerianGuy:. in civilised country most patient in nigeria will be sued for fraud after treatment. which civilised country? i trained all over the world in different field of medicine and i can boldly tell you nigerian doctors are performing miracles. Do your best and you still come back to nairaland to shout baby died for lack of oxygen? How many such threads have they opened on nairaland. Keep expecting doctors to treat you on credit when most patient are fraudulently evading payment after treatment. What do you know about stabilisation? A patient that was unconscious and convulsing that may likely need ventilator and you say they should stabilise.. With what? NOTE...nobody can hold a doctor or hospital criminally negligent for not using his money to treat patient first. In civilised country, insurance pays so you can be held liable. And if the patient dont have insurance you can call ambulance easily and refer the patient at no cost to the doctor. |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by 1miccza: 1:17pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
helpee: Look we are not saying in all cases, we all know that some cases would require some measures like you said, but for heaven sake according to the OP, the child had an infected ear which could be stabilised before requesting for funds , most of these hospitals do not even think towards that direction and it's really so sad. |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by Flaghouse1: 1:25pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
ultron12345: Right |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by optm(m): 1:36pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
ultron12345:Nigeria hs d money. d problem ar d thieves in d govt and hospital admin who tks d money meant fr d betterment of d health system al to demselves. privatizing d health sector wld mk health care inaccessible to d populace...d PHC's aint even functional. xo tel me hw u want d populace to get health care if d health system is privatized wen majority re poor ? dnt tel me u aint touched by d sufferings of nigerians....even d power sector dt wz privatized, wht difference did it make? u even hv to pay more fr d service dts hardly offered .... |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by ultron12345: 1:44pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
optm: Which money, do u think it N1Billion yearly to subsidize quality healthcare. http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/how-much-does-federal-government-spend-health-care&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjI14-ArsDWAhWBLFAKHXJyBRwQFggLMAA&usg=AFQjCNHtSTLJ2euiLhIVdywsdId4kQNhBg The U.S. Spends $41 billion yearly for healthcare subsidies, how much is Nigeria's annual budget. Can u suggest any other nigeria can improve her healthcare? 1 Like |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by ceejay80s(m): 1:48pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
9jakohai:thanks......but emmmm, i rest my case |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by seangy4konji: 1:49pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
Later another fool will quote me saying it is not the goverment that should provide health care all the time that the private sector should provide hospitals also.... Zoo... RIP LITTLE ANGEL. |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by helpee(m): 1:51pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
optm:you can see the logic. Nigerians are poor but they want doctors in private hospitals to provide them rich man healthcare. If you dont provide it then what happened to Hippocratic oath is the next line. In america you spend about 40k dollars ( roughly 12million) for uncomplicated cs. In nigeria, they beg you to collect 100k and they wont still pay. So, how can i provide a 12million quality of care with 100k just with hippocratic oath. Kuku kill us |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by Nobody: 3:01pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
1miccza: The private hospitals are people's business. They are not charity organizations. |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by 1miccza: 3:03pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
ThatVvnGurl: They were life savers first before business men refer to my discussions with @helpee |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by Ochek: 3:10pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
ultron12345: And you truly think all you said make sense Abi? Let me ask you, do exist in the space called Nigeria irbyou are simply typing from another country? Of course, it's true our health sector is in a shadow of its self but then asking for a whooping sum of 250k as initial deposit to manage pain in a kid is simply outrageous and inhumane. If it had to do with ICU what then. ... Baseline, our government is to blame. |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by ultron12345: 3:16pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
Ochek:then if u are not ready to pay, go to another hospital abi na by force.......and what do u mean by "to manage pain", if u don't understand something, either u ask questions or u keep ur mouth shut |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by Ochek: 3:22pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
ultron12345: How many ENT specialist can you find within a 5km range? Of course it's business and the hospital should be able to make some profit but asking for a 250k as deposit is way too much. Argue that with your keyboard. And for the management of pain, that was in a wider/generalization of the happening events with private hospitals. So, I yes! I do understand what exactly it is I was referring to. |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by Nobody: 3:22pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
1miccza: I read all you wrote. The thing is that health care is not free neither is it cheap. Inasmuch as we want to save lives the hospital will fold if it keeps rendering services for free in the name of saving lives. |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by 1miccza: 3:26pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
ThatVvnGurl: Nope no one's supposed to render free services either, everyone goes into business for profit but, in some medical cases you could stabilize a bit to at least draw that patient back from death, then demand for your money before further treatment but most of these hospitals would not even respond at all to you. In the Op's story a bit of stabilizing would have helped that child first and probably encourage the parents to run around for funds. |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by ultron12345: 3:35pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
Ochek:would u keep quiet, there is nothing wrong with the price, do u know the quality of d treatment there were to receive and d standard of d hospital, some hospitals will charge 1k, some will charge 50k, some will even charge more than 1M, go to the one u can afford |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by salford1: 3:35pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
ultron12345:well. An average nigerian does not pay over 300k a month for a two bedroom flat in Nigeria like an average citizen of a developed country neither did a nigerian trained doctor incurred close to or more than 40million naira debt in student loan after graduation. Different country, different cost of services. The problem is our stupid politicians who earn millions every month but fail to develop the economy. 1 Like |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by optm(m): 3:36pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
helpee:wldnt knw if dts d actual cost fr uncomplicated cs there but comparing america wit nigeria where therez a great disparity in d standard of livin is funny. a place where d average pay of a worker is reasonable compared to wht pple get here. besides , naira cnt compete wit dollar in terms of value hence comparin d cost of tx btw both countries wldnt apply here. |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by ultron12345: 3:40pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
salford1:whether u like it or not, Nigerians are paying too low for healthcare. Quality health care is expensive, u get what u pay for. By the way, are there no private health insurance companies in dis country. |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by helpee(m): 3:41pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
optm:you are funny. That should rather make healthcare more expensive in dollar terms in nigeria. You know why? We import practically everything we use in hospital with dollars including consumables. So if i need a CT SCAN, i wont buy it with naira, i will buy it with dollars and custom will still collect duties on it. ICU equipment are all imported. The only thing we wont buy with dollars is building and salaries. so i wonder how we can provide that quality care cheaper than the dollars |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by ultron12345: 3:42pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
salford1: helpee: salford1: |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by optm(m): 3:46pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
ultron12345:do u know how much d thieves in govt loot nd also waste in irrelevancies? if u knw, den u ll agree nigeria has d moni to giv ha people gud health care at low cost. |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by ultron12345: 3:50pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
optm:u are only deceiving urself, u mean that in year, politicians steal almost 6 times the country's budget, Oga lie small |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by Ochek: 3:54pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
ultron12345: Are you in the profession or aspiring to be one? You are a disaster. What happens to life first before money. What happens to first aid? Your type will watch a pregnant woman die with the baby in emergency or the OR. Do you really understand that Medicine and Nursing are a calling? Ppl with empathy and sympathy? Anyone in it for money is a disaster. It's unfortunate you are very rude and uncultured lacking the qualities of a professional in a discus (that is if you are one) You need to groom yourself in responding to ppl |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by optm(m): 3:58pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
helpee:xo if it's privatized, services wld b better nd u ll b able to afford dem fr u or ur luvd ones wen need arises abi? u knw, nt until we find ourselves in certain situations, u ll neva knw wht it's really like to b there. #my take is dt privatization isnt d solution to d menace facin d health sector in nigeria..as it is at present, nigerians re finding it difficult payin fr health care services...this is evident in d majority engaging in self medication until dey run out of options bfr seekin health care frm d hospitals. |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by helpee(m): 4:14pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
optm:you have to choose one. GOOD AND QUALITY HEALTHCARE- EXPENSIVE. POOR HEALTHCARE- CHEAP. While i dont blame anybody that cant afford good healthcare, Nigerians should stop blaming doctors that demand for money to provide a semblance of good care saying we should keep treating everybody on compassionate grounds. Healthcare is expensive. If you cant afford it, dont blame a doctor that cant afford to provide it too |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by Ochek: 4:21pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
helpee: Well said! Our government is damn too corrupt for the common man to be saved. See how much was budgeted for the state house clinic alone, more than 10 teaching hospitals. FMOH is messed up. We need Nigerians to stand up to this cancerous happenings. I and to think that the NGO bill will be affecting those related to health is sickening. |
Re: Little Girl Dies Of Ear Infection After 3 Lagos Hospitals Failed To Treat Her by Dacronym(m): 5:07pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
Sad That happens almost everyday all over hospitals in Nigeria I say Nigeria Don spoil tey Tey No be matter of 30years |
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