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My Family Is Tearing Apart / My Husband's Family Is Sucking Him Dry / She Is Single And Living On Rented Apartment, Away From Family ! Is It Good? (2) (3) (4)
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Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by cococandy(f): 12:39pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
Oh the thought of raising another man's kids has you spitting this much fire. But you don't mind telling the woman how she should accept it to not appear rude. Monkey I've quoted you. Do your worst. pato405: 11 Likes |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by MissJoy29(f): 12:54pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
pato405:Jesus Christ! That's all you deduced? That the woman is rude & not submissive? I'm lost for words!!! 5 Likes |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by MissJoy29(f): 1:04pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
pato405:Human beings like you equate others with qualities only a divine being or divine power could do. The funniest thing is that people like you don't keep to their words. It's not enough to say the woman should have done this & that. It's like when we watch football. The way we abuse all those players as if we can do better than them. Talk is cheap. Anybody can talk but not everyone can actually DO what they say. Do you know the level of Grace it requires to accommodate children not just from any man but from a lying, cheating, arrogant, wide-beater and irresponsible man? Can you honestly say you can do it? 9 Likes |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by MissJoy29(f): 1:20pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
pato405:Virtuous woman? Did I hear you right? I'm sure your own Bible describes a Virtuous woman as one who should suffer for another man's sins. One who suffers emotional, psychological and physical abuse. I'm sure your dictionary also defines tolerance as being stupid. She should be nice to the kids & treat them like hers? For real? Did the three of them bear them together? Where are the irresponsible people who birthed them? In as much as I will not encourage her to maltreat the children (which she hasn't done & might not even do cos she's that good ), she shouldn't be answerable to anyone how she chooses to react to them. 3 Likes |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by pato405(m): 1:29pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
MissJoy29: Have you for once, stopped to ponder on the thought & question why God (or nature if you are an atheist or whatever) would choose a woman over a man to gestate? i.e conceive a child, internally carry the child for months through-out developmental period from fetus to embryo to neonate, nurse the child, breast feed, nurture etc...even among animals, the female does this same task! I tell you, when it comes to passion, compassion, and emotional care, a woman has a softer spot than a man. @bolded, that grace is what she needs to show now. It's NOT easy, but that is what differentiates a virtuous woman from the ordinary. Those kids will see it, their mum will see it, above all, heavens will see it...and her reward will not elude her. Even if the reward does not come to her directly, it will go to her children..somehow. Don't you stop to ask why some people seem always favored? They put in little effort and achieve so much while others labour so much and achieve only little. You call it blessing, others call it Karma. I tell you - they are most likely reaping the rewards of effort sown by their parents or someone related...not necessarily theirs. Sometimes I wonder where, when , and how we all lost touch with human sympathy & empathy. The husby did wrong! YES! but can two wrongs make a right? stop to think, if that was the way you were conceived and born. Then, by challenges of lyf, you find yourself in such quagmire at a tender age. what will you do? tell step mum to please oppress you? or starve and send you packing? why can't we for once see other people's challenges as ours and stop to think how or where we can help. I will advise, if she has enough to spare, let her give the kids from the other woman (except if she doesn't have). Not of necessity or grudginly, but cheerfully. |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by pato405(m): 1:36pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
MissJoy29: But Christ "suffered for your own sins and was the one who suffered emotional, psychological and physical abuse" for you.(Isaiah 53 v 5; II Corinth 5 v 21). God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. (2 Corin 5 v 21) If you are a true christian, I'm sure you'll be ashamed of what you typed up there after reading those verses. |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by MissJoy29(f): 1:50pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
pato405:oh but I never said she shouldn't help the children (though no one should blame her if she doesn't). What I'm against is you insinuating that if she doesn't help or treat them right, then she's not a Virtuous woman. Again, her blessings and favour aren't conditional: helping & treating the baby mama and her children right. The fact that she has endured all these years and stoid by him amidst the humiliating circumstances is enough to make her blessings flow. Also, that a woman is more passionate and compassionate and more emotional than a man doesn't mean she has been equipped with super human abilities to endure ALL THINGS. Women are human beings. Even machines break down and I hear that machines have SUPER human abilities. Finally, I ask you again, can you tolerate same with your wife? 7 Likes |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by Nobody: 1:55pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
pato405: well according to the bible and Christianity Christ is divine, he even rose from the dead, he is even called God. This woman is a human with emotions she can get hurt and suffer trauma and depression. So telling her she is not virtuous or submissive for not accepting a lying, cheating, wife beater's illegitimate kids is actually wicked and insensitive. The kids should go to their mum while the father supports they are not her responsibility she can only help if she chose to. 8 Likes |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by MissJoy29(f): 1:59pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
pato405:Thank God even the Bible said "Christ" not "woman" or even "human being". This brings me back to what I said in the other mention. In issues like this, hypocritical and overly judgemental people remember that we should behave like God when we are all human beings who are not perfect. But they lie and quickly forget that we should behave like God who doesn't lie & commit any sin. We -as human beings fail & fall. But My God doesn't. 3 Likes |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by pato405(m): 2:00pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
MissJoy29: You are a woman - & I will give you a piece of advise which I plead with you as a woman to please take it to heart very seriously and make it a rule of thumb: "NEVER MALTREAT A CHILD". believe it or not, there's an inexplicable spirit guiding every child. The two step-mums can face themselves and quarrel - that's by all means fine. BUT leave the children & help them if she can! |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by MissJoy29(f): 2:17pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
pato405:You have been mentioning maltreatment here. The woman in the post didn't do it, I have not said anything to condone it & will never & no one here has said anything about it too. So why are you mentioning it? You have left the issue at hand & started pursuing shadows. I also have a piece of advice for you. Please don't over labour/burden/stress/test ANY human being in a bid to find out who's virtuous and more compassionate. Oh and by the way, there's only one step mum in the story & not two like you said 4 Likes |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by HerXLNC(f): 2:27pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
pato405: I love d adverbial clause of condition.... Buh she doesn't ve enough to spare...... And to correct your notion she doesn't have that strenght to nurse any child not to talk of 4 boys.... She can't be a nanny or cook for dem... She got no time n strenght as she leave for work b4 5.30am n return in d evening.... She sef ll appreciate if she cud get someone to do her domestic needs like cooking.... She's close to 60yrs consider d traffic stress in Lagos.... You're making this sound like a debate that u wanna raise point to win..... 3 Likes |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by HerXLNC(f): 2:35pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
pato405: That's why she's not Jesus Christ... She Cant be d one to pay d price for someone carelessness and lustful exuberance ....she still has obligation towards her children and life after retirement.... She need rest 3 Likes |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by HerXLNC(f): 2:43pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
pato405: Be like say u read another write up oooo..... She didn't maltreat them and won't.... When dey were babies she bought them clothes and d woman greeted d gesture with stupidity then she stopped..... One of d scenes was that because she gave her rule never to step her foot inside her house.... When she went visiting dem at d house dad rented for them when d kids were babies... The woman too ordered her not to enter her house.... Then she decided that whatever she ll do for d children ll be when they are of age to know d history of the family then they ll be old enough to appreciate the gestures 1 Like |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by Nobody: 2:56pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
When you leave men to make laws they will even start suggesting that the women are solely responsible for breadwinning and homekeeping while the man goes about spending his own money on himself and his "naturally polygamous" lifestyle. Fools. A very irresponsible man shamelessly brought his four bastard children to live in the house his wife built and one male specie is here arguing page after page about how she should lovingly care for the kids so as to be virtuous and christ like. Its the woman's fault entirely. She should have nipped this thing in the bud from day one. Since its has gotten so far the only thing she can do now is apply wisdom. She should not provide for those kids financially or materially. She should be smart and shower them with love and kind treatment but when it comes to buying things for them let her hide her money and tell them in a pitiful voice that she has nothing; she has spent everything on her kids already, eyaaa Let their useless papa and mama provide for them instead. 7 Likes |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by Nobody: 2:59pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
And no, the above advice is not wickedness, its wisdom. The woman is too quiet that's why the man keeps treating her like a fool and taking her for granted. Let her hide her own money from her husband and his four bastards so that the man and woman that gave birth to them will go out and hustle to cater for them instead of using another persons head. 7 Likes |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by elektra(f): 3:40pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
pato405: You Sir, are an evil person. It is absolutely evil to use the bible as a tool of oppression. It is when it relates to women that you will start quoting bible to suit your evil purposes. You should be faithful to your wife, just as you take water from your own well and don't be like a stream from which just any woman may take a drink. Save yourself for your wife and don't have sex with other women. Be happy with the wife you married when you were young. She is beautiful and graceful just like a deer; you should be attracted to her and stay deeply in love. Don't go crazy over a woman who is unfaithful to her husband! The Lord sees everything and he watches us closely. Sinners are trapped and caught by their own evil deeds. They get lost and die because of their foolishness and lack of self control. Proverbs 5:15-23. Didn't you see the above scripture in your bible reading? You have evaded multiple monikers asking you if you will accept illegitimate kids from your wife. Why? Because you cannot swallow the pill you are prescribing. If you cannot do what you are suggesting, why are you trying to oppress someone into doing it? When your wife brings home someone else's kids, use your bible qoute to help you accept and train them. This woman has suffered all kinds of abuse and oppression, and now that she has mustered the strength to liberate herself, evil people like you are insisting she must remain in that oppressive state in the name of virtuousness. You even had the nerve to tie hers and her children's blessings to her helping the illegitimate kids. I hope God has a special place in hell for people like you. 6 Likes |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by Sparkles003(f): 3:45pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
[quote author=pato405 post=61014715]All I can say is...it appears your mum is truly rude. She made the money but it must have taken over her sense of submission at some point. No man wants to lose his regard simply because he's not making enough cash. The two should be one and whatever your mum has achieved, must not necessarily be publicized as her singular effort. This has always been the problem...whenever a Nigerian man is the sole bread-winner, it's NEVER news! but when the woman is the bread-winner, there's always rancor, pandemonium & chaos. But why? You have also taken sides with your mum and painted your dad as a monster. Please don't get married with this bias against men...it will only breed more trouble - often it's the reason why it appears as if divorce runs in some families like a genetic disease. It might not be surprising if your dad's side of the story contradicts yours. To every story, there are two sides. No judgement until a balanced case is presented![/quote I don't think you read the story.the moment any many begins to physically abuse his wife he loses every self worth she has for him.if she is now the bread winner and he is unappreciative of her input into the family he is not fit to be called a husband. See if a woman is the bread winner but sees that her husband makes an effort of his own the respect remains.but if all he does is nag,calls her names,maltreat her,make the home uncomfortable for no.she naturally in turn looses every self respect or entitlement she gives to him.from the op story all I can say was your dad is just a sperm donor cause it seems you mum was 90% responsible for you and your sibling upkeep financially,spiritually, mentally,academically... It takes a woman with the fear of God word and ways with lots of patience and tolerance to still tolerate all the things your father did.. 1 Like |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by Sparkles003(f): 3:47pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
The moment any man begins to physically abuse his wife he loses every self worth she has for him.if she is now the bread winner and he is unappreciative of her input into the family he is not fit to be called a husband. See if a woman is the bread winner but sees that her husband makes an effort of his own the respect remains.but if all he does is nag,calls her names,maltreat her,make the home uncomfortable for no.she naturally in turn looses every self respect or entitlement she gives to him.from the op story all I can say was your dad is just a sperm donor cause it seems you mum was 90% responsible for you and your sibling upkeep financially,spiritually, mentally,academically... It takes a woman with the fear of God word and ways with lots of patience and tolerance to still tolerate all the things your father did.. 1 Like |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by enoqueen: 3:53pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
HerXLNC: She did the best thing. Atleast now the children will know that it's not their father's property. |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by cjeriia: 3:53pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
@ Op, till ya papa come here come tell us im own side, I no go talk kpakam 1 Like |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by HerXLNC(f): 5:46pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
cjeriia: You go wait tire... I didn't come here to write with biased mind so as get real solution to provide.... If you read well I wrote d weaknesses of both....i wrote as an umpire to give d true picture of what is happening: 1 Like |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by HerXLNC(f): 5:51pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
Update: dad himself called a pastor friend when d house was boiling and they resolved with him to return d children immediately that it's not acceptable he has since done that.... And these were d same people that told him not to try it initially oooo.... Tho mum wasn't there when he was been talked to and I wasn't there either d pastor gave me update 2 Likes |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by Futureberry: 6:18pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
HerXLNC:stop calling that mumu,idiotic and stupid man your dad...may dangote trailer jam him whenever he tries to cross the road,may he not return alive tomorrow for all the trouble he brought to your mother.... Your dad is dead,stop calling him your dad.. 1 Like |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by mrjojo: 6:54pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
Futureberry:Yo easy 1 Like |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by Khonifer: 7:08pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
Your mum has been too nice, too kind, too submissive, too soft. I blame her really. She wasn't penniless or dependent, yet she allowed herself go through such emotional and physical trauma. She took in everything he gave her without uttering a word. You sure say no be your mama born Jesus? The truth is, if you give Mtchhew. Na wen day don break she wan begin open eye. She will not divorce him joor. She will feed and cloth and educate those children and they will grow up and still feel she owes them something. Their mother will never utter a word of thanks and your father will blame her for their existence. And he will be backed up by men like that person up there. They will call her names, degrade her for being the breadwinner, say that she was too rude, not virtuous enough, and let's not forget their favourite term. She wasn't submissive enough. You, op will not be left out either. You also are to be blamed for your father's mistakes because, how dare you not take his side? You must be a woman, ruled by emotions, brainwashed by your mother, who is also ruled by emotions. Yes. Your mother probably never suffered all the things you want to make us believe she did. And even if she did, it must have been her being the breadwinner that caused it. Oh.. You're a man? Then you are a young naive man that doesn't know his left from his right. Don't you know your mother should be submissive and be virtuous and christlike and accept the children? Don't you know she should feed and clothe and care for the reminders of your father's numerous fuckings with his side chic? Lol. Nairaland has shown me madness in high places. 7 Likes |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by Nobody: 7:29pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
pato405:permit me to reply you based the statement that's in bold i totally disagree with you on this .. i can almost relate to what the OP is going through cos we had similar issue in the family my dad had a job but hen it was just not enough to take us through and mum luckily had a stepup in her business which paid off more than what daddy earned back then so my mum became almost the sole bread winner of the family we had no issue in the house not until dad started putting up some funny attitude .. mum hired a PI only to find out my dad had a mistress and she is feeding him with stories of different things hence the funny attitude .. my parents started having issues after that and there was no peace they even separated for a while .. but thank God i dunno what happened Dad got back to his senses and everything became normal btw him and mum and they are happy no the main reason for the story is that not all women get cocky iff they end up being the bread winner of the house sometimes the mistress is the one putting him up to all this, men tilt more to the touch of a woman who massages his ego better and make him feel more like a man he is and since her mummy is the bread winner it smashes her dad's ego to the wall hence a hole for the mistress to fill his head with bull shit personally I think and i know the dad is to blame please change the assertion you have about Nigerian women ,..most men driving cars, looking good and dressing well even spending good cash are all sponsored by their wives 1 Like |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by Nobody: 7:35pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
HerXLNC: gal i feel ya pain .. your mummy is a good woman and she deserves to be treated right i will suggest she involves the police cos of the threat ya dad meted out on her he should sign some sought of agreement .. then maybe she can file for a divorce cos with what i have read from ya story your mum is so going through alot an that can cause her to breakdown ... she needs to be happy and being with that man ya dad is not healthy for her 1 Like |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by elektra(f): 8:29pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
Khonifer: Ah, you didn't know that a woman's virtue and submissiveness is directly proportional to how much cra.p she can take from her husband? She remained in an abusive marriage... not virtuous enough Worked her ass off to build a home for the family... not submissive enough Attended naming ceremony of husband's love child... not virtuous enough Refused to allow husband's kids into her home... Ah! but this is the only way she can become virtuous. The only way she can receive her plaque of virtuousness and submissiveness in heaven is by accepting, loving and raising those kids. Anything less would result in no award and to punish her 'unsubmissiveness' God himself will shorten her ration of blessings and favour. 2 Likes |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by Nobody: 3:03am On Oct 03, 2017 |
kimbraa: Hmmm.. true. |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by Nobody: 3:07am On Oct 03, 2017 |
pato405: I get your point.. 1 Like |
Re: My Family Is Tearing Apart! Help by Nobody: 3:10am On Oct 03, 2017 |
HerXLNC: Eyaaa. Your mum tried o ... |
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