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Re: Ibom Specialist Hospital, Uyo Shut Down by laudate: 1:01pm On Oct 06, 2017
MadCow1:
Isn't the job of the legislature to pass laws again? Since when did they become a court that probes and brings people to book? grin
Their function is not just to pass laws, but to act as checks and balances upon the executive. Politics 101.

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Re: Ibom Specialist Hospital, Uyo Shut Down by Nobody: 1:28pm On Oct 06, 2017
Some people don't even read, but rushed to start talking/commenting. They shut it down because bad and clueless hospital administratior.
Re: Ibom Specialist Hospital, Uyo Shut Down by Nobody: 4:25pm On Oct 06, 2017
MadCow1:



You are very wrong..

Education is always the answer.. Educate and build capacity. If they did, they would not have needed foreign Doctors and Nurses to efficiently run the hospital.

Secondly, we do need these super structures (No be our own bad pass).. World Class hospitals are mostly situated in such structures because they normally house many divisions and branches of medicine.. The problem was not in the size of the structure. Like someone said, it's in the planning and execution.

First challenge a hospital of that magnitude will definitely face is power.. Powering that hospital solely from generators would have been unsustainable and impractical. This is the type of project you put on a dedicated power grid from like a Gas turbine. National grid won't work unless they know to never turn the power off.. Most of those machines need constant electricity not this start and quench power.

Secondly was the cost of maintenance. Fixing/servicing Machines, keeping the building up to code, laundry bill, etc. .

Third was the cost of salaries.. Especially if they were using expatriate doctors.

Then if the hospital was open to Akwa Ibom people (civil servants) on like a Government health insurance scheme, was that structure negotiated and understood? If it was subsidised, were the terms clearly spelt out?

Whatever they do, the Government cannot afford to keep financing that Hospital directly. They should enter into a contract with a Medical Company that will run the Hospital purely as a "For-Profit" hospital. Charge whatever fees they like and make a profit where they can keep a certain percentage and remit a certain percentage to the State Government. Then maybe a quota of free treatments/surgeries be put aside for Locals every month/year that will be covered by the Government.. The target should be these Nigerians that keep going to India for treatment .. Some people spend in excess of 15k USD for those treatments so why not charge it here and do a great job at it..

Many atimes with these grand projects like Tinapa, Uyo stadium, National Theater, this Mega Hospital, Murtala Muhammad Airport, the Cinema in Uyo, e.t.c.. The easiest part of these types of Projects are always the construction.. The hardest part is the management (not just structural) of the project..

Just wait, Le Meridian in Uyo will soon collapse as well because just like Nitel and NEPA, the Governments dont pay its bills.

The story of Akwa Ibom State will be no different from that of Cross Rivers State...

Too busy thinking about we could without wondering if we should.

It's not just govt, we sometimes face those issues in the private sector;the proof on concept is about deployment, but skirts over actual viability

So the project is a success, but the operation of the asset is a failure

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Re: Ibom Specialist Hospital, Uyo Shut Down by laudate: 4:35pm On Oct 06, 2017
oyb:
Too busy thinking about we could without wondering if we should.

It's not just govt, we sometimes face those issues in the private sector;the proof on concept is about deployment, but skirts over actual viability

So the project is a success, but the operation of the asset is a failure

Thank you! wink

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Re: Ibom Specialist Hospital, Uyo Shut Down by laudate: 4:53pm On Oct 06, 2017
MightySparrow:
You see am?

We are not in a wrong world but we are the wrong people.
I don't think we are the wrong people. sad If you go to foreign countries and you see the size of projects, cases and establishments that are manned by qualified Nigerians abroad, you would marvel. wink Yet, everything works well, with those Nigerians at the helm. Like MadCow1 said: "It is all about planning and execution." Until we imbibe the right methods of execution, we would not go anywhere.

Ironically, the largest gas processing plant in Nigeria today is situated inside Akwa Ibom. The $600 million USD or N90 billion naira gas processing facility located at Uquo in Akwa Ibom State, is owned by Accugas Ltd, a wholly owned subsidiary of indigenous company Seven Energy International Limited headquartered in Lagos, and London. The gas plant commenced gas deliveries in early 2014 to the 190 megawatts (MW) Ibom Power Station.

So why was it so difficult to connect the hospital to a stable source of electricity? shocked I still do not get it, o! cry

As for personnel, there are more than enough well-qualified doctors within Nigeria to go round that hospital, if only the recruitment process had been properly done. sad There would have been no need for foreigners to be resident there 24x7, if the govt authorities had put on their thinking caps.

In most private hospitals, surgeries or specialised medical care is booked over a particular period, and patient appointments are programmed back-to-back within that specific time frame, so that any invited foreign-based medical expert can handle all the cases within a scheduled period, and then fly back to his base. Some private hospitals do this when they have to conduct heart or kidney transplants for multiple patients. undecided Such block bookings save time, cost and resources. The only downside might be the waiting period for some patients. undecided

In many hospitals abroad, the chief executive officer or most senior hospital administrator is NOT a medical doctor, but a trained hospital manager or specialist administrator whose function is to coordinate the medical officers' schedules, pool resources, supervise administration, facilities and services including logistics, IT, and legal departments, in addition to reviewing the hospital's cost profile and managing revenue accruing to the medical centre. Most doctors I have met may be gifted clinicians, but more often than not, their administrative skills are a mess.

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Re: Ibom Specialist Hospital, Uyo Shut Down by buffalowings: 5:03pm On Oct 06, 2017
This is the kind of topic that ought to be on the fp for about a month
To show the blatant corruption in nigeria

Oga seun what do you think?

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Re: Ibom Specialist Hospital, Uyo Shut Down by buffalowings: 5:13pm On Oct 06, 2017
valentineuwakwe:
either N30 or N41 billion none is true. .this hospital is not up to the said amount. .the past administration in the state indeed played a smart one here. .

Have you heard of inflating the cost to grease some palms?
Re: Ibom Specialist Hospital, Uyo Shut Down by cooltola(m): 5:27pm On Oct 06, 2017
laudate:

Speak for yourself. Places like South Africa manage more complex centres. Is it not part of Africa, too?
The truth hurts but this is the reality. We are not very good in managing big things, look at our national theatre for example, or mma airport in Lagos. We do not even have a reliable airport train system , talkless of having a 24 hours electricity. What i am saying we need manage things small before going big. Instead we going big.

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Re: Ibom Specialist Hospital, Uyo Shut Down by MightySparrow: 5:28pm On Oct 06, 2017
laudate:

I don't think we are the wrong people. sad If you go to foreign countries and you see the size of projects, cases and establishments that are manned by qualified Nigerians abroad, you would marvel. wink Yet, everything works well, with those Nigerians at the helm. Like MadCow1 said: "It is all about planning and execution." Until we imbibe the right methods of execution, we would not go anywhere.

Ironically, the largest gas processing plant in Nigeria today is situated inside Akwa Ibom. The $600 million USD or N90 billion naira gas processing facility located at Uquo in Akwa Ibom State, is owned by Accugas Ltd, a wholly owned subsidiary of indigenous company Seven Energy International Limited headquartered in Lagos, and London. The gas plant commenced gas deliveries in early 2014 to the 190 megawatts (MW) Ibom Power Station.

So why was it so difficult to connect the hospital to a stable source of electricity? shocked I still do not get it, o! cry

As for personnel, there are more than enough well-qualified doctors within Nigeria to go round that hospital, if only the recruitment process had been properly done. sad There would have been no need for foreigners to be resident there 24x7, if the govt authorities had put on their thinking caps.

In most private hospitals, surgeries or specialised medical care is booked over a particular period, and patient appointments are programmed back-to-back within that specific time frame, so that any invited foreign-based medical expert can handle all the cases within a scheduled period, and then fly back to his base. Some private hospitals do this when they have to conduct heart or kidney transplants for multiple patients. undecided Such block bookings save time, cost and resources. The only downside might be the waiting period for some patients. undecided

In many hospitals abroad, the chief executive officer or most senior hospital administrator is NOT a medical doctor, but a trained hospital manager or administrator whose function is to coordinate the medical officers' schedules, pool resources, supervise administration, facilities and services including Logistics, IT, and Legal departments, in addition to reviewing the hospital's cost profile and managing revenue accruing to the hospital. Most doctors I have met may be gifted clinicians, but more often than not, their administrative skills are a mess.


Let's wait and watch this company and others if they don't go the same way others have gone. Backs do well maintain standard when monitor end or under supervision by Oyinbo. See what South Africa has become after Oyinbo left governance. I don' t contest the Ingenuity of black man when trained but to manage property and human resources is black man's natural disaster.

You may disagree but the backwardness of black race is clearly our own making. I don't think any black nation can make it till thy kingdom come..


We are not in a wrong world, we (blacks) are the wrong people.


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Re: Ibom Specialist Hospital, Uyo Shut Down by laudate: 6:48pm On Oct 06, 2017
cooltola:
The truth hurts but this is the reality. We are not very good in managing big things, look at our national theatre for example, or mma airport in Lagos. We do not even have a reliable airport train system , talkless of having a 24 hours electricity. What i am saying we need manage things small before going big. Instead we going big.
Oga, free your mind. sad Managing things (whether small or big), is a function of planning, skill, expertise, knowledge and execution. It is not a function of the race you belong to, or the colour of your skin.

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Re: Ibom Specialist Hospital, Uyo Shut Down by laudate: 6:49pm On Oct 06, 2017
MightySparrow:
Let's wait and watch this company and others if they don't go the same way others have gone. Backs do well maintain standard when monitor end or under supervision by Oyinbo. See what South Africa has become after Oyinbo left governance. I don' t contest the Ingenuity of black man when trained but to manage property and human resources is black man's natural disaster.

You may disagree but the backwardness of black race is clearly our own making. I don't think any black nation can make it till thy kingdom come..

We are not in a wrong world, we (blacks) are the wrong people..
Which company? Did you read through the entire thread from the beginning?
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Re: Ibom Specialist Hospital, Uyo Shut Down by RedDistrict: 7:47pm On Oct 06, 2017
Poor planning and administration has led to all this

Can the people of akwa ibom really afford the cost of healthcare being offered by that hospital?? or this wasnt considered at all

Expatriates were stationed there 24 and accruing expensive salaries when we have brilliant minds in Naija here, some of the points raised already on this thread by the likes of madcow1 and laudate shows that intelligent ppl abound in this country to make things work but na oyibo sure pass for them, oya make una face the huge debts na, yeye!

I pray they sort it out eventually. such a facility shuldnt be left to waste and ruins like our blessed abuja national stadium

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Re: Ibom Specialist Hospital, Uyo Shut Down by Ndipe(m): 10:23pm On Oct 06, 2017
laudate:

Guy, na yah face be dis? shocked Wey you dey since? I no even see your brake light on any of the threads again.... undecided

I dey-o, still dey make occasional 'contribution' on the forum. smiley

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Re: Ibom Specialist Hospital, Uyo Shut Down by Painkila: 3:57am On Oct 07, 2017
Udom should be voted out he is an idiot
Re: Ibom Specialist Hospital, Uyo Shut Down by dumodust(m): 1:58pm On Oct 07, 2017
laudate:


True!! sad And the sad thing is that there are international bodies willing to invest in building local healthcare facilities, if a solid business case is presented to them. Here is one example of what a private Nigerian hospital has been able to achieve by emphasising medical excellence.



good to know... health insurance is the way forward
Re: Ibom Specialist Hospital, Uyo Shut Down by bro4u: 4:06pm On Oct 07, 2017
Abagworo:


You dislike him for not making unnecessary media noise like Akpabio or what? If you analyze their projects priority and spread you will appreciate Udom better. Akpabio wasted a lot of money on egoistic projects and exaggeration during a time of oil boom which his State earned ths most in Nigeria.
bro you know nothing, Akpabio wasted a lot of money on egoistic projects yet one of his major project being the stadium is boosting the state economically, hotels are smilling to banks day by day due to his projects and you're here saying he did not priotised his projects, have you ever wondered what Akwa Ibom looked like before 2007 when Akpabio took offer?, have you reasoned the State's state of affairs prior to 2007?, i guess not instead you're typing rubbish of which you know nothing about.


You also made mention of him making noise, ofcourse you expected the man to be silent considering all his achievements?, once upon a time Akpabio was one of the most talked-about politicians in Nigeria because of the manner and speed he transformed that State into what it is now.


Apart from the toothpich, syringe and chicks hatchery that big-mouthed man in power has executed what else has he done again...your guess is as good as mine, nothing. For your information the hatchery and toothpick factory is currently experiencing issues in which the workers are threatening to strike.

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Re: Ibom Specialist Hospital, Uyo Shut Down by laudate: 8:41pm On Oct 22, 2017
bro4u:
bro you know nothing, Akpabio wasted a lot of money on egoistic projects yet one of his major project being the stadium is boosting the state economically, hotels are smilling to banks day by day due to his projects and you're here saying he did not priotised his projects, have you ever wondered what Akwa Ibom looked like before 2007 when Akpabio took offer?, have you reasoned the State's state of affairs prior to 2007?, i guess not instead you're typing rubbish of which you know nothing about.

You also made mention of him making noise, ofcourse you expected the man to be silent considering all his achievements?, once upon a time Akpabio was one of the most talked-about politicians in Nigeria because of the manner and speed he transformed that State into what it is now.

Apart from the toothpich, syringe and chicks hatchery that big-mouthed man in power has executed what else has he done again...your guess is as good as mine, nothing. For your information the hatchery and toothpick factory is currently experiencing issues in which the workers are threatening to strike.
The problem in this country, is lack of continuity. undecided What stops Udom from continuing with the projects that Akpabio started, and bringing them to completion? shocked This hospital is a classic case. It makes my heart bleed to see uncompleted projects that could have benefited the country's citizens lying abandoned, simply because those at the helm failed to manage things properly. This country does not have adequate healthcare facilities, and someone is heartless enough to let such a multimillion investment such as the Ibom Specialist Hospital, go to waste! It is very annoying, to say the least. angry

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Re: Ibom Specialist Hospital, Uyo Shut Down by Ndipe(m): 11:15pm On Oct 24, 2017
laudate:

The problem in this country, is lack of continuity. undecided What stops Udom from continuing with the projects that Akpabio started, and bringing them to completion? shocked This hospital is a classic case. It makes my heart bleed to see uncompleted projects that could have benefited the country's citizens lying abandoned, simply because those at the helm failed to manage things properly. This country does not have adequate healthcare facilities, and someone is heartless enough to let such a multimillion investment such as the Ibom Specialist Hospital, go to waste! It is very annoying, to say the least. angry

It's heartless to abandon this hospital project that was built to save countless lives. But nearly every new administration in Nigeria are prone to doing so, because they want to create a project that they would be remembered for instead of continuing the project of their predecessor because they feel they wont be given credit for it. It's very unfortunate.

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Re: Ibom Specialist Hospital, Uyo Shut Down by jbblues24(m): 6:21am On May 31, 2019
Incredible. So slick. kiss

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