Afam:

Where are you from? Your state or your tribe?

Igbos pushed for one Nigeria pre and post independence.

Igbos pushed for secession when a lot of things began to go wrong.

Igbos after losing the bitter war were forced to remain in Nigeria and they have done just that.

Now, you want to secede again? Secede go where? The indecision is getting out of hand.

I guess Ojukwu would be having a good laugh while taking palm wine as Nigerians complain about what he complained about some 43 years ago.

igbo boy:

Nigeria breaking up wont solve our problems but it means we have one less problem to deal with---Islamic terrorrism

kosovo:

That's just the basic truth.

ElRazur:

No it isnt. If anything, we will be at a more manageable size and this will bring about accountability. And with accountability comes development.

I concur, Nigeria is simply just not working.

ElRazur:

No it isnt. If anything, we will be at a more manageable size and this will bring about accountability. And with accountability comes development.

ElRazur:

In order to remove sentiments and emotions, or not to encourage those. I think it is perhaps irrelevant to the debate at hand.

As you stated that Igbos wanted and pushed for a one nation, so also will you find that other tribes pushed for one nation too. It isn't an igbo exclusive thing. The point is that over the years, the idea of one nation is not working for many and people are more or less waking up and smelling the coffee.

I am not sure about you second to the last statement, there isn't any indecisiveness on my end here. I have remained on the same point from the beginning, which is for Nigeria to separate into smaller nations or regions.

Again, stating the same points I have tried to explain to you a couple of times or so. Just because Igbos feel hard done by issue of Biafra, it do not mean it is a good enough reason to hold us all to ransom and force people to be part of what they do not want to be part of.

Here is a rough yardstick measure - Take a quick poll of yes or no with the question should Nigeria break, again my feeling is that it will be plenty of "Yes we want to break up" and very few "No."

Since you never addressed the issue I raised in my last post, before this one let me rephrase is again. How is the Concept of One Nigeria working for you in real life?

Afam:

I will take it that you clearly refuse to state your tribe because your constant call for us to forget the past will be seen in the correct context.

Your tribe will in no way affect the discussion so don't use that line again.

As to your last question the concept of one Nigeria is working for me in real life because that is what Nigerians had forced my people to live with and a lot of us have adapted well into the system.

From 20 pounds by Awolowo after the war to the region with the least poverty index even without any FG support should make it clear how the Igbos have fared in Nigeria - the same country that killed them and refused them to leave.

As Ojukwu once stated, you cannot deny me the right to be a Biafran and at the same time deny me the right to be a Nigerian.

Either way the Igbos are fine, trust me. Whether in this marriage we objected to or as independent nation.

ElRazur:


Please rephrase the first statement. I thought I did understand, but I want to make sure I DO understand what you are saying.

Moving on to your 3rd statement, you appeared to have made an error! I will hold you on to that. You stated that you want Nigeria to be one and how it is working for you. Yet you made the statement "Nigerians forced your people. . . ."
Why do you see the need to use such phrase that carries a tone of division? Furthermore, you suggested that "Your people have adapted well" Now I am putting it to you that if you are forced and as a result adapted well. If you have your choice, won't you refused to be forced any more and then find your OWN way?

I do not know the real figures for poverty index in the region, but the ingenuity and industriousness of the igbo people cannot be denied. This however, have no bearing on whether we should stay together or divide. If anything, it should work as an advantage and another reason why we should perhaps break up?


As per your last point. I see you speak for the igbos, what about the other tribes who are not keen on the marriage does their say matter? Remember I am of the opinion that people want to go their separate ways be it Igbos, Yoruba, Hausa and those who may want their independent region or smaller nations. Those who will object to it are those who are perhaps stealing from Nigeria - not talking about you, but those who are in the House of powers and very influential.


Finally, my question was aimed more as to how Nigeria as one is working for you on a personal level. Not just how the igbos have fared over the time.

ElRazur:

Afam

No disputing the figures. I am just saying I do not know what they are, and I went further to say I am not surprised as the Igbos are hard working etc.


I am refusing to answer the question as it will divert attention away from the discussion at hand - something that have happened already.

By the way, by the time I posted this link [see below] out of 10 people, 6 have voted for a seperated Nigeria. That is 60%, while this is not a true indications of things, it speaks volume.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-411586.0.html

It backs my view that most of us - be it whatever tribe - want out of the whole charade called Nigeria.