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| The Cost Of Leaving Islam by chosengocap: 8:22pm On Oct 09, 2017 |
Most converts to Islam announce their defections from the rooftops, but ex-Muslims, especially in Islam-dominated areas, can’t enjoy such a luxury. Leaving Islam attracts serious consequences ranging from alienation to imprisonment to death under Sharia law. Perhaps this is why some Muslims are clamouring for Sharia law in several countries. It’s an effort to halt the daily exodus of people out of Islam. Liberal Muslims try to drown this intolerable streak with slippery narratives like “There is no compulsion in Islam” but this line of defense can be easily disproved. The Arabic word for apostate is murtad . A turning away from Islam into unbelief is termed ridda while an apostasy into another religion (such as Christianity) is kufr. Here is what the Quran says about apostates: “If they repent it will be better for them; and if they turn away, Allah will afflict them with a painful doom in the world and the Hereafter , and they have no protecting friend nor helper in the earth” (Q 9:74) “Therefore do remind, for you are only a reminder. You are not a watcher over them. But whosoever turns back and disbelieves, Allah will chastise him with the greatest chastisement ” (Q 88:21-24). “How shall Allah guide a people who disbelieved after their believing and (after) they had borne witness that the Apostle was true and clear arguments [or signs] had come to them… their reward is that upon them is the curse of Allah and the angels and of men all together ” (Q 3:86-87). These verses give us a glimpse of the psychological weapon unleashed through the Quran. These scare- mongering verses does raise a point: Muhammad made up his Allah as a fearsome monster. He used his god as a convenient scarecrow to hold his followers under the claws of Islam through fear. A study of Muhammad’s life shows that curses and threats were his bluffs. He too knew he and his Allah had no power to make them happen. This was why he had to resort to killing his enemies by himself. Islamic scholar, Abu’ala Maududi declares: “To everyone acquainted with Islamic law it is no secret that according to Islam the punishment for a Muslim who turns to kufr (infidelity, blasphemy) is execution.” My point exactly. You see, it’s not really Allah who is doing the “afflicting” or “chastisement” of apostates, it is his loyal worshipers doing his job for him. Or lets say, Allah is using their hands to punish the apostates. Other passages say: “They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them , and choose no friend or helper from among them” (Q 4:89). Islamic scholar, Abdallah Baidawi explains this: “whosoever turns back from his belief (irtada), openly or secretly, take him and kill him wheresoever ye find him, like any other infidel” (Mufradat- Ghand’ul Quran, p. 191). Some Muslims claim that the Arabic word rendered “helpers” here is “ auliyah ”which also means “leaders” so the verse intends to say Muslims should not accept a corrupt leader. Even if we accept such a twisted explanation of an otherwise clear text, the question remains: why should such a leader be killed? If Islam is the truth or has a superior logic, there would be no need to kill those who oppose or leave it. Sura 2:217 says “…But whosoever among you shall turn back from his religion, and die an infidel, their works shall be in vain in this world, and the next; they shall be companions of [hell] fire, they shall remain therein forever…” A Quranic commentary explains this: “In short, the fate of an apostate is worse than that of an original disbeliever. This is why Jizyah [penalty tax] can be accepted from an original disbeliever while a male apostate who does not return to Islam is killed. If the apostate is a woman, she is imprisoned for life” (Mufti Shafi Usman, Maanful Quran, 1:536). Another passage says: “But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor rate, they are your brethren in Faith … And if they break their oaths after their agreement and (openly) revile your religion, then fight the leaders of unbelief- surely their oaths are nothing – so that they may desist.” (9:11) The English translators censored this text. The Arabic word they rendered as “fight” is “quatelo” which means “kill.” The passage was directed to the pagans and “people of the Book” and it was the last sura Muhammad recited. Muslims were only to stop slaying them when they embraced Islam or paid jizya. As Maududi explains: “Here the ‘covenant breaking’ in no way can be considered to mean ‘breaking of political covenants.’ Rather, the context clearly determines its meaning to be ‘confessing Islam, and then renouncing it’… war should be waged against the leaders instigating apostasy” (Quranic Commentary, 12-23). The Quran does not come out to explicitly state that apostates must be killed. One of the reasons was adduced by the Encyclopedia of Quran (ed. Jane McAuliffe, 119): “At the early stages, the Prophet did not have the effective power to deal with the apostates and thus the Quran adopted a considerably lenient attitude. With the growing strength of the new religion that attitude changed into a confident and less compromising one.” Another reason is that the Quran doesn’t address all the fundamental tenets of Islam. It fails to cover all the areas of Islamic beliefs. For example, nowhere does the Quran explain the rites of islamic prayer or pilgrimage. Muslims have to turn to the hadiths and the records of the first generations of Muslims to properly practice Islam. This militates against the claim that the Quran is a complete book. In a hadith, Muhammad is quoted as saying: “The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am his Apostle cannot be shed except in 3 cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims” (Bukhari 9:83:17). Mu’adh ibn Jabal narrated: “A man who was a Jew embraced Islam and then retreated from Islam. When Mu’adh came, he said: I will not come down from my mount until he is killed. He was killed” (Abu Dawud 38:4341). After Ali burnt some apostates to death, Ibn Abbas said: “I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him” (Bukhari 9:84:57). What is quite striking is the how these narrations were recorded without any apology or remorse. It indicates the extent to which Islam destroys human compassion and reason. In another place, Muhammad predicted that in the latter times, there would be some young Muslims with no faith who would leave Islam like an arrow leaves a quiver. What was his remedy? “So wherever you find them, kill them, for who-ever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection” (Bukhari 9:84:64). There you have it. Kill an ex-Muslim and get a reward in the hereafter! Tell me, how does Islam differ from destructive cults which call for the death of ex-members with a promise of a reward? Jesus Christ said: “IF anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me” (Matt. 16:24). The “if” there implies the freedom to accept or reject His way. In John 6:66 “many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.” He said to the others “You do not want to leave too, do you?” They replied “to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. We believe and know that you are the Holy One of God” (v 67-69). When you have the words of life and truth, you will not need to force people to listen to you. Muhammad was the direct opposite of Christ. He neither had the word of truth nor life and the people knew he was a wicked man. The only thing he could use to bind people to his cult was the death penalty. According to Tabari’s biography, after Muhammad’s death, many of the Arabs reverted from Islam and Abu Bakr ordered their deaths. It was recorded: “But there was an old man among them, a Christian called al-Rumalus b. Mansur who said ‘By God the only error I have made since attaining reason was abandoning my religion, the religion of truth, for yours, the religion of wickedness . No by God, I will not leave my religion and I will not accept yours so long as I live.’ Ma’qi brought him forward and cut off his head.” (Vol 17:191) So even back then – before all the evil Islamic atrocities of today – Christians were convinced Islam was a religion of wickedness and they chose to die rather than follow a doomed vessel. Islamic law stipulates that: “When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostasies from Islam, he deserved to be killed … There is no indemnity [expiation] for killing an apostate ” (Ahmad al-Misri, Reliance of the Traveller: A Classic Manual of Islamic Law, 595). Why the emphasis on killing the apostate? Another islamic scholar answers: “Those Muslims who are weak in faith and others who are against Islam may think that the apostate has only left Islam because of what he has found out about its real nature.. So they learn from him all the doubt, lies and fabrications which are aimed at extinguishing the light of Islam and putting people off from it. In this case, executing the apostate is obligatory, in order to protect [Islam]…” (Islam Questions and Answers, Fatwa no. 12406) In other words, Islam is so volatile that it can be easily extinguished by former Muslims. Therefore, killing apostates is meant to “protect” Muslims from learning the ugly truths about Islam. This is a tacit admission that Islam cannot stand up to insightful inquiries and criticism. Islam is just like Nazism, Communism or any other fascist movement that squelches opposition to its agenda. This proves that Islam can never be from God, because one of the gifts God has given mankind is the gift of freedom. Every system that tries to remove this freedom of choice and conscience is a yoke of bondage. The whole idea of killing apostates actually does violence to the Islamic belief in fate (kismet) and predestination (qadr). The Quran says “Those whom Allah wills to guide, He opens their breast to Islam; those whom He wills to leave straying,- He make their breast close and constricted … thus Allah lay abomination on those who refuse to believe” (6:125). How can Allah lay abomination on non-believers if he made them non-believers? If Allah has predestined those who stay in or leave Islam, then, by ordering the death of ex-Muslims he is undoing his own work! Is this reasonable? What would you think of a king who orders his servant out of the palace and then calls for his execution for leaving the palace? Wouldn’t you think he is a lunatic?Muhammad not only made his Allah up as an ogre, he also presentedhim as an insane sadistic deity. The Lord Jesus reveals to us the God who cares much about His creation. He illustrated Him as a shepherd who left 99 sheep to seek a sheep that went astray and rejoiced when it was found; a woman who seeks a lost silver piece out of 10 and rejoiced when it was found and a father who embraced his estranged son who returned to him. He said there is likewise joy among the angels in heaven over one sinner that repents than the others who are still in the faith (Luke 15:2-32). What a far cry from the god of Islam. When Peter denied Jesus and became a “murtad,” what did Jesus do? He extended the hand of forgiveness and reconciliation to him (John 21:17). No death penalty, imprisonment or threats of virulent curses from angry angels! This is the glory of Biblical Christianity. Love, truth and freedom all walk together. The absence of these qualities in Islam marks it out as a diabolic cult that controls and deceives mankind. A fatwa issued by the Mufti of Lebanon says that a Muslim who chooses to leave Islam “should be imprisoned for three days” to think about his decision and if he persists in his decision “then he or she must be put to death.” This nefarious ideology blows the “islam is a religion of peace” rhetoric into ashes. This is why when many Muslims are convinced of the truth of the Christian Faith, they still fear the implications of conversion. But a truth- seeking Muslim must not be deterred by fear. Jesus has said anyone who must follow Him must be willing to lay down all that he has (Matt. 10:37). Satan and his demons try to stop people from accepting the eternal life that Jesus offers with oppositions, imprisonments, tortures and fear of death. They do these to keep them in false and destructive religions such as Islam, which leads to eternal death. A religion that cannot gurantee freedom of conscience cannot gurantee salvation of the soul. Credit- THE KINDLED FLAME BLOG. |
| Re: The Cost Of Leaving Islam by Yeligray(m): 8:49pm On Oct 09, 2017 |
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| Re: The Cost Of Leaving Islam by bedspread: 8:55pm On Oct 09, 2017 |
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| Re: The Cost Of Leaving Islam by tartar9(m): 11:33pm On Oct 09, 2017 |
Is it not the same 'Lordt' Jesus who commanded this; Deuteronomy 13:6-11 ESV “If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or the wife you embrace or your friend who is as your own soul entices you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which neither you nor your fathers have known, some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. You shall stone him to death with stones," Of course the Sharia stipulates the DEATH PENALTY for apostates,we don't deny that. Isn't rather curious how you are able to provide quotes from prominent Islamic scholars supporting a point we agree on but fail to do the same on those points we disagree on like whether Islam supports terrorism and other false allegations. |
| Re: The Cost Of Leaving Islam by Isidingo40(m): 7:51am On Oct 10, 2017 |
//Is it not the same 'Lordt' Jesus who commanded this; Deuteronomy 13:6-11 ESV “If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or the wife you embrace or your friend who is as your own soul entices you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which neither you nor your fathers have known, some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. You shall stone him to death with stones," Of course the Sharia stipulates the DEATH PENALTY for apostates,we don't deny that// The above instruction was given to the nation of Israel alone. Yahweh revealed Himself to them in a unique way that He didn't to others. He brought them out of Egypt and was with them as a pillar of cloud and fire (Exodus 13:21). “And the LORD came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of mount…” (Ex. 19:20) “And they saw the God of Israel…” (Ex. 24:10). If after this revelation an Israelite went ahead to “serve other gods, which thou hast has not known” – which includes the stone deity of Mecca, he/she has broken the first law of God “Hear O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD” (Deut. 6:4) and is to be cut off from the people of Yahweh. Under the New Testament however, Christians are not given such commands because God has revealed Himself in the Person of Jesus - not as He did to the nation of Israel. We find many examples of people rejecting Jesus, but no one murdered them for it. On the other hand, Muslims have never seen Allah; he has never appeared to anyone or revealed himself to anyone the way Yahweh specifically revealed Himself to the nation of Israel yet you are mandated to kill those who reject him. If Muhammad was truly "the mercy of God sent to the worlds" he wouldn't have bound people to his religion under a death penalty. If Allah is God and he is so insecure that his people would forsake him, then he should be the one dealing with them, not relying on brainwashed human slaves to do a dirty job of murdering them. If God wanted to murder someone He doesn't need the help of weak mortals. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: The Cost Of Leaving Islam by Qasim6(m): 8:00am On Oct 10, 2017 |
[quote author=Isidingo40 post=61274526]//Is it not the same 'Lordt' Jesus who commanded this; Deuteronomy 13:6-11 ESV “If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or the wife you embrace or your friend who is as your own soul entices you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which neither you nor your fathers have known, some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. You shall stone him to death with stones," Of course the Sharia stipulates the DEATH PENALTY for apostates,we don't deny that// The above instruction was given to the nation of Israel alone. Yahweh revealed Himself to them in a unique way that He didn't to others. He brought them out of Egypt and was with them as a pillar of cloud and fire (Exodus 13:21). “And the LORD came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of mount…” (Ex. 19:20) “And they saw the God of Israel…” (Ex. 24:10). If after this revelation an Israelite went ahead to “serve other gods, which thou hast has not known” – which includes the stone deity of Mecca, he/she has broken the first law of God “Hear O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD” (Deut. 6:4) and is to be cut off from the people of Yahweh. Under the New Testament however, Christians are not given such commands because God has revealed Himself in the Person of Jesus - not as He did to the nation of Israel. We find many examples of people rejecting Jesus, but no one murdered them for it. On the other hand, Muslims have never seen Allah; he has never appeared to anyone or revealed himself to anyone the way Yahweh specifically revealed Himself to the nation of Israel yet you are mandated to kill those who reject him. If Muhammad was truly "the mercy of God sent to the worlds" he wouldn't have bound people to his religion under a death penalty. If Allah is God and he is so insecure that his people would forsake him, then he should be the one dealing with them, not relying on brainwashed human slaves to do a dirty job of murdering them. If God wanted to murder someone He doesn't need the help of weak mortals. [/quote Just 1 word for you "GIBBERISH" |
| Re: The Cost Of Leaving Islam by chosengocap: 9:14am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Isidingo40: God bless you for this reply...because those silly muslims won't be able to counter this then they will resort to name calling... |
| Re: The Cost Of Leaving Islam by Ioseph(m): 9:34am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Is the only thing anyone does on this forum copy-paste things? |
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